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Thread: Vax-cels: the consequences will never be the same...

post 1653177733 12-25-2021, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So you're saying that these numbers are credible?

You said the Ontario Science Table site has been debunked for having fake data. I was asking for where you've seen that published. Can you share it?

That seems like it would be a big scandal.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Interesting.

So you're saying that these numbers, as published by the Ontario Science Table, are credible?

I'm asking where you've seen the Ontario Science Table debunked for having fake data on their site.

That would be a big scandal right now.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Please note that the website you keep linking has been debunked as a site that has fake data.
Where have you seen the Ontario Science Table debunked for having fake data on their site.

That would be a big scandal right now. Can you share it?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Where have you seen the Ontario Science Table debunked for having fake data on their site.

That would be a big scandal right now. Can you share it?
why do you rely on something becoming a scandal?

the numbers look ****ed, could be due to a common misunderstanding of said model (but I don't understand why) but until further notice this source is poor so shouldn't cling onto it
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post 1653178373 12-25-2021, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Right here.

Unless you can confirm that these numbers, as published by the Ontario Science Table, are credible?


Ah.

So in your opinion, estimates based on midpoint 7-day averages are invalid.

But, collapsing observed cases across all age groups is valid as an argument against receiving a vaccine?

We know you're Canadian. But out of curiosity, are you vaccinated?
post 1653178433 12-25-2021, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
why do you rely on something becoming a scandal?

the numbers look ****ed,could be due to a common misunderstanding of said model (but I don't understand why) but until further notice this source is poor so shouldn't cling onto it
Nailed it. Repped.

I'm not relying on a scandal. But saying a site has been debunked should be proveable. I thought perhaps an opinion was stated as fact and was seeking clarification. Clarification was provided - the "debunk" was an opinion.
post 1653178713 12-25-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Can you explain how the "estimates based on midpoint 7-day averages" are out by so much you'd need to fudge the numbers by more than 3 million people to make it work?
It's a midpoint and they should be providing intervals around those estimates.

But as we've seen in other threads, frequentist confidence intervals are often misinterpreted.
post 1653178833 12-25-2021, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Yup, just like a fudge of two decimal points was a common misunderstanding of how percentage is calculated.

Just LOL at J.L.C. getting rekt multiple times ITT.

First with linking charts for the wrong date range.

Then for linking graphs that include pre-vax data.

And finally for linking "data" that is purely made up.

Yep.

I'm happy to take L's and get rekt if that's what it takes to present things that are counter to the narrative.

At least the info is presented with links to the source and people can have a look for themselves.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Nailed it. Repped.

I'm not relying on a scandal. But saying a site has been debunked should be proveable. I thought perhaps an opinion was stated as fact and was seeking clarification. Clarification was provided - the "debunk" was an opinion.
I have done various modelling and I still don't understand why these wouldn't match up. That is what I was touching on.

Btw, in all fairness, the burden is on those posting it as a source initially. Numbers not adding up equals bunk data as a standalone separate debate doesn't mitigate your initial responsibility.
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post 1653178913 12-25-2021, 06:25 PM
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Lmfao @ these two. The back & forth is priceless.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Lmfao @ these two. The back & forth is priceless.
Anachron is hilarious I gotta get him on spread lul
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You're not countering the narrative though.

Just LOL @ beavercel vaxcucks srs.
I figure I'm the yin to the yang,

the fart in the echo chamber,

the turd in the punchbowl
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Lmfao @ these two. The back & forth is priceless.
I feel like it's pretty conclusive that J.L.C. is wincel at this point. This seems an awful lot like the pseudo intellectual circles wincel was going on about WuFlu in the beginning (along with misrepresenting data and making baseless conclusions). Props to Anachron to have the patience to keep making him go in circles.
post 1653180333 12-25-2021, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I wish you'd do a better job then, because at this rate, you only qualify as the last item.

If you're fine with being that, then have at it.

As long as you know that it amounts to less than when you were trolling pretending to be an antivaxxer.
At least the links get posted and perhaps read.
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Keep in mind the vaccines could be updated for specific variants and the numbers would be dramatically different. The fact that they still provide protection even at reduced levels is a bonus.



Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
People that want to do that will look for it themselves.

But if it makes you feel good, it's all good.
That's not how it works. If you post a screen shot or make claims the burden is on you to provide the link(s).
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
At least the links get posted and perhaps read.
Anyone claiming this one discrepancy invalidates the whole of the model or is definitive proof the numbers were pulled out of thin air is either being intellectually dishonest or demonstrating they lack significant intellect in the first place. My money is on the latter.
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why is JLC shilling in every vaccine thread, even on fuking Christmas
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post 1653181963 12-25-2021, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
why is JLC shilling in every vaccine thread, even on fuking Christmas
Not shilling, just farting in the echo chamber. Eggnog gives me gas.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Not shilling, just farting in the echo chamber. Eggnog gives me gas.
That's how my egg intolerance started. First gas, then other digestive problems, and then stronger immune responses. I could eat a three egg omelette right now and walk into any ER and most doctors would just assume I had covid.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
That's how my egg intolerance started. First gas, then other digestive problems, and then stronger immune responses. I could eat a three egg omelette right now and walk into any ER and most doctors would just assume I had covid.
Have you tried vitamin D?
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
I feel like it's pretty conclusive that J.L.C. is wincel at this point. This seems an awful lot like the pseudo intellectual circles wincel was going on about WuFlu in the beginning (along with misrepresenting data and making baseless conclusions). Props to Anachron to have the patience to keep making him go in circles.
Lol he is without question wincel
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post 1653182253 12-25-2021, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan⏩
Lol he is without question wincel
Lol why/how?

I joined a long, long time ago
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lol why/how?

I joined a long, long time ago
Strong response 1 min after you were mentioned wincel
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan⏩
Strong response 1 min after you were mentioned wincel
Lol

I've been posting pretty regularly ITT

But this accusation is a new unrelated derail. Nice.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lol

I've been posting pretty regularly ITT

But this accusation is a new unrelated derail. Nice.
Can you please explain what implications of "regular interval boosters" may have an effect on the natural immunity over a period of 5 years?

I'm double vaxxed. However I'm not seeing the logic in doing this. At some point, like with every "drug" the efficacy wears off to the point you need to either "increase dosage" or "taper off" to prevent severe crashes.
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Originally Posted By BlackHeart.au⏩
Can you please explain what implications of "regular interval boosters" may have an effect on the natural immunity over a period of 5 years?

I'm double vaxxed. However I'm not seeing the logic in doing this. At some point, like with every "drug" the efficacy wears off to the point you need to either "increase dosage" or "taper off" to prevent severe crashes.
Sorry, I'm not following.

What do you mean by natural immunity over 5 years?

Are you comparing a vaccine with a particular drug? If so, which drug or which drug class?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Sorry, I'm not following.

What do you mean by natural immunity over 5 years?

Are you comparing a vaccine with a particular drug? If so, which drug or which drug class?
I was just using an example. Clearly I'm lacking knowledge, however you seem to have the most information on "mRNA"
Do these vaccines have any impact on our natural defences on common viruses such as the "Cold" over an extended period of time?

I havn't got a clear answer from anyone in here, on how safe "Boosters" are being administered on "regular intevals" throughout the years.

We're about to have boosters mandated in Australia, & clearly I'm getting concerned about it. I don't want to have a blown out immune system where a common cold kills me or my parents for that matter
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Originally Posted By BlackHeart.au⏩
I was just using an example. Clearly I'm lacking knowledge, however you seem to have the most information on "mRNA"
Do these vaccines have any impact on our natural defences on common viruses such as the "Cold" over an extended period of time?

I havn't got a clear answer from anyone in here, on how safe "Boosters" are being administered on "regular intevals" throughout the years.

We're about to have boosters mandated in Australia, & clearly I'm getting concerned about it. I don't want to have a blown out immune system where a common cold kills me or my parents for that matter
I think mandates and politicizing vaccines are terrible ideas.

I haven't seen anything that suggests a covid vaccine, mRNA-based or other, would reduce/impair immune response to other pathogens.
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It's weird that a lot of you guys get shilling out of JLC. I posted this thread for some input and I got a lot here. Some of it I disagree with, some of it warrants further reading. If there's something that you disagree with though, why not use that as a chance to examine your own views? Perhaps that person is wrong, well why not prove it? Why not see this as an opportunity to explore deeper? I'm an antivaxxer, this chit worries me more than it should, but when JLC posted those charts I had to go back and reexamine them. Anachron pushed it, and well crap it turns out those charts were faulty for comparison. The more ya know! I feel better off here going through all of this. Hell if I were provax I'd seriously reconsider... So thanks to JLC and Anachron, I may not be smarter but I'm slightly more informed. Good stuff all.
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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
It's weird that a lot of you guys get shilling out of JLC. I posted this thread for some input and I got a lot here. Some of it I disagree with, some of it warrants further reading. If there's something that you disagree with though, why not use that as a chance to examine your own views? Perhaps that person is wrong, well why not prove it? Why not see this as an opportunity to explore deeper? I'm an antivaxxer, this chit worries me more than it should, but when JLC posted those charts I had to go back and reexamine them. Anachron pushed it, and well crap it turns out those charts were faulty for comparison. The more ya know! I feel better off here going through all of this. Hell if I were provax I'd seriously reconsider... So thanks to JLC and Anachron, I may not be smarter but I'm slightly more informed. Good stuff all.
After reading everything and line it up with the Policies & Laws being implemented Global. I'm starting to think this is a deliberate Genocide talking place.

Killing off Oil & Gas
Unlealised CGT
40% inheritance tax
Small Business destruction
Black Rock Asset binging.

They will crash the Stock market next year.

Good Luck. I'll say it. But most of us won't be here by 2030.

Their sustainable figures with wind, solar, electric is on sustainable for a population under 1 billion.

It is what it is.
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