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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
So my view is biased, but the entities that stand to rake in billions of dollars from the injections aren’t. Got it.
They totally have our best interests in mind.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
So my view is biased, but the entities that stand to rake in billions of dollars from the injections aren’t. Got it.
The companies obviously have an incentive to be biased too, so maybe look at people without any vested interest like the vast majority of medical professionals who do not want to kill themselves or their own family and children. What are they saying.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
They say “safe and effective” without defining what they mean by safe and what they mean be effective. I think it’s easier to argue they’re safe since the chance of side effects seem low, but anyone would certainly have a difficult time explaining how they’re effective, especially in today’s environment.
They've explained this a million times. By effective, they are looking at hospitalization and death rates of vaccinated vs unvaccinated people. They have concluded that being vaccinated makes it much less likely you get seriously ill or die from covid.

They've said this a billion times at this point. You just arent hearing it because you dont want to.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
They've explained this a million times. By effective, they are looking at hospitalization and death rates of vaccinated vs unvaccinated people. They have concluded that being vaccinated makes it much less likely you get seriously ill or die from covid.

They've said this a billion times at this point. You just arent hearing it because you dont want to.
But kids were already extremely unlikely to get seriously sick and almost zero deaths from covid. Probably way more deaths from the clot shot for u18 year olds than covid.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
See here's the difference. Its one thing to say the vaccine is unnecessary for kids. That argument can be made and I tend to agree with it

But that's different than saying the vaccine is killing them, everyone knows it, but the vast majority of medical professionals are going with it. Thats absurd.
Ok so you don’t think it’s normal and to be expected for a minuscule minority of people to have adverse reactions, some of which would die from it? That then leads onto the question that if it poses no benefit to certain demographics and only poses risk however small, in what way is that safe and effective?
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Originally Posted By lebowski951⏩
Good thing Pfizer and Moderna don't ever have to worry about facing any kind of litigation for inflicting this poison on people. It's almost like they knew it's not entirely safe to administer...
If you "volunteer" for their experiment, then they have no liability...
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
They've explained this a million times. By effective, they are looking at hospitalization and death rates of vaccinated vs unvaccinated people. They have concluded that being vaccinated makes it much less likely you get seriously ill or die from covid.

They've said this a billion times at this point. You just arent hearing it because you dont want to.
“And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."

- Dr. Anthony Fauci
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I can list 50 doctors with more and greater accreditation that disagree with that short list. They are still a vast minority.



I am not suggesting it is impossible for the vast minority to be correct, I am suggesting that your bias has you clinging to them and ignore much of the evidence contradicting.

Even your last graph shows a greater amount of hospitizations prevented than caused, yet somehow you interpreted it as the vax more dangerous than covid. It plain math, it says the exact opposite.
You say it is possible but not obvious that the kid went into cardiac arrest due to the vaccine.

You say you trust no one yet you accept the narrative that the vaccine prevented child hospitalizations due to covid.

How do you know the vaccine prevented child covid hospitalizations? Do you believe the vaccine is safe and effective? Why?



You say you received the JnJ vaccine.

You question the logic of others.

Lol.



I wonder if the "vast majority" of doctors will be pushing a vaccine on children who do not need it.

It won't matter if they need it or not, if the "vast majority" agree they should take it anyway.

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There is not one logical reason to give the shot to a child... These parents are sick in the head.

More kids in liberal sh*it hole cities like Chicago and NYC will be killed by gun violence this weekend than the amount of children killed from the WuFlu.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
So no consideration of how the consequences of parroting the official narrative vs. speaking against it might skew those numbers?



I believe that if for one WEEK, not for the entire year. Also the agency insures people nationwide.
Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
You say it is possible but not obvious that the kid went into cardiac arrest due to the vaccine.

You say you trust no one yet you accept the narrative that the vaccine prevented child hospitalizations due to covid.

How do you know the vaccine prevented child covid hospitalizations? Do you believe the vaccine is safe and effective? Why?



You say you received the JnJ vaccine.

You question the logic of others.

Lol.



I wonder if the "vast majority" of doctors will be pushing a vaccine on children who do not need it.

It won't matter if they need it or not, if the "vast majority" agree they should take it anyway.

If you are going to let others think for you then there is no personal point to your existence.
When did I say that I trusted the narrative it prevented hospitalizations in children? Pointing out what another poster graph ACTUALLY says, is NOT a co sign.

Not sure what ypur J and J comment is insinuating?? I got the j and J way early, why? Because I had a 2 yr old daughter and a pregnant wife who happens to also be an NP. I didn't want to get vaxxed, and if I were a single man, probably would not have. It was important to my pregnant wife.

Do I believe it is safe and effective? I think on a grand scale, so far YES. Without a hard definition of "safe." It's certainly likely safer than what the average American puts into their body daily.

As for effective, it's never really had a chance to be effective in preventing transmission. Too quick of mutations, fueled by too many unvaxxed. I think it will be effective going forward, similar to the flu vax. Works great some years, some years not. Also believe covid yearly vacation takers will round out to same percentage as flu vax takers. Eventually the controversy/stigma dissipates.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
When did I say that I trusted the narrative it prevented hospitalizations in children? Pointing out what another poster graph ACTUALLY says, is NOT a co sign.
Lol.

You used it in an attempt to further your argument.

So you are basically saying you were being disingenuous?



So you think it is safe, now tell me why.



It never was going to prevent transmission, if every single American was vaccinated it would make no difference to the mutations originating outside America.

Animals apparently carry the virus as well.

"Experts" already knew this.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
By effective, they are looking at hospitalization and death rates of They have concluded that being vaccinated makes it much less likely you get seriously ill or die from covid.
Sure it does



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Originally Posted By HayZues
So every heart attack now is because of the vax?

Jfc.


2000 people under 25 die per year of sudden cardiac arrest in US
yeah usually those from drug over doses

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meanwhile Opiod deaths in Murica are at record levels LOL and no one gives a chit
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
So no consideration of how the consequences of parroting the official narrative vs. speaking against it might skew those numbers?



I believe that if for one WEEK, not for the entire year. Also the agency insures people nationwide.
Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Lol.

You used it in an attempt to further your argument.

So you are basically saying you were being disingenuous?



So you think it is safe, now tell me why.



It never was going to prevent transmission, if every single American was vaccinated it would make no difference to the mutations originating outside America.

Animals apparently carry the virus as well.

"Experts" already knew this.
No I did not. I asked why she posted a graph, and concluded the opposite of what it said.


You're being disingenuous.


Is that a jay z quote in your sig?
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Pfizer COVID-19 shot won't be ready for youngest kids for months: 'Might be a three-dose vaccine'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...en/9122889002/



I wonder how many shots HayZues and his wife will force upon their innocent child.

I'm seriously hoping 0.

Don't be dumb.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
So no consideration of how the consequences of parroting the official narrative vs. speaking against it might skew those numbers?



I believe that if for one WEEK, not for the entire year. Also the agency insures people nationwide.
Originally Posted By SwagMorris⏩
Sure it does



Finds one unsourced screenshot of a single month in Scotland.


Ignores the thousands of studies that show otherwise.


The misc ladies and gentlemen.
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Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
You say you trust no one yet you accept the narrative that the vaccine prevented child hospitalizations due to covid.
That is true, you accepted the data to further your argument.
Originally Posted By HayZues
No I did not. I asked why she posted a graph, and concluded the opposite of what it said.


You're being disingenuous.


Is that a jay z quote in your sig?
Lol.

It is.

D'Evils everywhere.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
So no consideration of how the consequences of parroting the official narrative vs. speaking against it might skew those numbers?



I believe that if for one WEEK, not for the entire year. Also the agency insures people nationwide.
Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Pfizer COVID-19 shot won't be ready for youngest kids for months: 'Might be a three-dose vaccine'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...en/9122889002/



I wonder how many shots HayZues and his wife will force upon their innocent child.

I'm seriously hoping 0.

Don't be dumb.
The answer isn't 0, as they've already taken all their scheduled vaccines.

Very likely 0 covid vaccines as I believe it is already endemic and harmless, whole likely trending towards a seasonal respiratory virus.


However, I keep an open mind to new actual evidence. Not random screenshots on twitter.

Keep one eye open, like CBS.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
The answer isn't 0, as they've already taken all their scheduled vaccines.

Very likely 0 covid vaccines as I believe it is already endemic and harmless, whole likely trending towards a seasonal respiratory virus.


However, I keep an open mind to new actual evidence. Not random screenshots on twitter.

Keep one eye open, like CBS.
Lol.

My man.

I'll just add one last thing, this virus was always going to be endemic and this was known since it first touched down. The vaccine was never going to be effective and they knew this as well. They know people will die due to this ineffective vaccine, they don't care, they are D'Evils.
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There is a large gap between "the virus isn't harmful enough to warrant vaccinations for children. " and "the vax is killing children. " and even bigger gap from " the vax is intentionally killing people, fuk the jews."

The fact that so many can't seem to grasp that, does not bode well for the future.
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Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Lol.

My man.

I'll just add one last thing, this virus was always going to be endemic and this was known since it first touched down. The vaccine was never going to be effective and they knew this as well. They know people will die due to this ineffective vaccine, they don't care, they are D'Evils.
I'm not sure it was known since first touched down, but definitely known early and should have been communicated better. For no other reason than so I wouldn't have to read "on a 4th booster!" Thread 3x a day on here. Likely. Booster every year if you choose.

I can find a post from October 2020 where I argued the endemic nature of this virus. With many of the same people itt arguing. Fact is, most people are too dumb to even realize they are stupid.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
There is a large gap between "the virus isn't harmful enough to warrant vaccinations for children. " and "the vax is killing children. " and even bigger gap from " the vax is intentionally killing people, fuk the jews."

The fact that so many can't seem to grasp that, does not bode well for the future.
So you don’t think it’s killed a single child from the millions it’s been given to?
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
So you don’t think it’s killed a single child from the millions it’s been given to?
No, it almost certainly has. From unknown allergies alone.

I also believe there is a 99 99% certainty that intelligent life exists outside this planet. Yes unrelated, but my point, when you reach a large enough sample size, all outcomes are inevitable.
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Originally Posted By SUPERH0T⏩
For children the rate is 2 in a million, or 0.0002%. The CDC recently admitted that 60% of teens admitted for Fort Detrick flu were severely obese. This means a BMI of 40 or greater. So this child had at most a 0.0001% chance of dying with ccpv (Chinese communist party virus)
Thanks for correcting me - when I said 0.003% (which I do admit I just estimated off the top of my head at the moment), it was off by a factor of almost 10.

- 0.003% was basically ten times too HIGH an estimate.
- Liberals are rushing to get their children an experimental vaccine over that

If you're 80. Grossly obese. Recovering from cancer. Something horrible. Ok. Back when we didn't realize you would need constant boosters and Covid had not yet morphed into Omi-cold? I can see a push to get vaccinated.

However: Young, healthy, not at risk and now the hopefully dominant strain rates less than a cold? What the fuk.
Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
With lots of data rather than individual examples.

You're going to just say you don't trust the data so this discussion is pointless. But the way you know is look at the outcomes of all of the millions of people who have taken the same vaccine and compare. And when you do that you see very rare side effects at best.

Very rare things still happen when millions upon million of people have taken the vaccine.

Misc is full of retarded uneducated trump loving trades who don't understand statistics at all
Sell me on any reasoning why a normal child needs vaccination or why it's even a good idea.

Sure, these heart incidents are rare - but they're more common than 0.0002% - which is the risk covid represented BEFORE omicron. More and more we're seeing this new strain is less of a problem than a cold.

Why would a healthy child want to get vaccinated?

(Edit: after posting this, I read BigBalls state he wasn't sure about children getting vaccinated and was only pushing back on the idea that they all die when they do or something. I don't know where he came to that conclusion, I don't think anyone is saying it is killing them - just that it's risky and covid is statistically a non-risk. So, I think he kind of agrees with me, he's just more entrenched in the pro-vaccine side of things)
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Originally Posted By HayZues
No, they literally haven't.

Stop making **** up and believing every bs screenshot that strokes your existing bias.
I posted a video from an FDA meeting back in or around October, meeting was from September. Panel of about 5 members made presentations and outlined data. Their follow up statement was "but we still have to convince people to take these vaccines." Go look it up before you make an ass of yourself further.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
No, it almost certainly has. From unknown allergies alone.
So the vax is killing children?
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
So the vax is killing children?
Is this a gotcha?


Kids die every year from the polio vaccine. where is the 30 threads a day about it?

In last 30 years, you know how many lives the polio vax has saved? 500k.. that's it.

None of this is new, the definition of vax hasn't changed. Only thing new is a bunch of mouth breathers are learning these facts for the first time .
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to the people saying "but 2,000 people under 25 die of cardiac arrest every year"


okay, but that is not the same as saying, "2,000 people under 25 die of UNEXPECTED cardiac arrest every year"


Those 2,000 people who die, had congenital issues and other health problems that led to the cardiac arrest. they are people who are in and out of hospitals dealing with serious medical conditions.



the point of this thread, is that this kid had none of those things, and was a healthy young boy, and unexpectedly died of a cardiac arrest.


thats the difference. healthy children dont get unexpected heart attacks like this.
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