Well into 2023 and still covid threads on here. Some of you really need to move on. Nobody cares.

Are you retarded? It would have spread faster, killed more, and mutated anyway.

I have a PhD in CS, yeah. And I also have a master degree in engineering, which means by definition I DO have a lot of physics and chemistry background, at least as much as some of these fake ass pill pushers calling themselves doctor.

Also, I really do not understand your point. I can read a study and comprehend it better than 99% of the population, BY DEFINITION. That's what a PhD is, dumbass, literally writing, reading, comprehending, and evaluating research. I have evaluated papers for publication in areas I am certainly no expert (one that comes to mind immediately is high availability clustering) and can determine if the conclusions arrived at are valid from the data presented. That's the entire ****ing point. I don't need to be an MD or have a PhD in immunology to know you can't take a sample size of like 12 people and extrapolate that to billions without a hell of a lot more research than "trust me, bro". All this crap is based almost entirely on "trust me, bro, I'm from the government!" Literally the last people you should ever trust. Couple that with the incessant badgering and insults thrown whenever anyone dared to question problematic conclusions and you are going to get a massive amount of pushback from anyone who knows WTF they're doing. Further, my point about being in academia for 20 years is that I KNOW how this **** works. Publish or perish. Even in my own work I took over a project from some girl but during the process I literally could not verify her results. At all. I think she made them up. I redid everything and the paper was ultimately published using the verifiable results I found. It sucked ass having to redo two years worth of research, but I did it because I wasn't about to put my name on anything that I couldn't back up. The difference here though is that I was 100% entirely self-funded during graduate school. I took no grants, wasn't on the hook to some external entity for my money. If I was some H1B who had to publish a paper or get deported and the government was funding my stuff, I would have probably just left that data in the paper and crossed my fingers no one asked about it. Go one step further. I work directly for the government and they want research done and the conclusion must match up with the policy they want to push. Do you honestly think those "researchers" would have a job if they produced a ton of papers that undermined everything the government was trying to do? Look at what they did to any doctor that dared question the crap going on...threatening to revoke their licenses, throw them in prison, whatever. I could write a ****ing book about this, but Thomas Sowell sums it up best: "...third parties who pay no price for being wrong". The veracity of their research is irrelevant; it exists purely to promote an agenda.

Fk big pharma.

and Fk politicians on their payroll, which is most of em.

I have an elderly friend who's been out sick with covid like symptoms for 3 weeks now. Tested negative for covid and flu.

Asked him his symptoms and they were literally the same symptoms you get from covid.

He's never had covid, but he got all his vaxes and boosters because he works at a school.

This story x1000000000

The veracity of their research is irrelevant; it exists purely to promote an agenda.

This is the essence of "modern science". It's so corrupt now, you can't even call it real science.

It's all for profit, or to push a product or agenda.

wincel cracks me up. there is literally nobody that is as much of a loser as him, yet he talks down to people on here. how he can look at himself in the mirror, I am fascinated

Interesting, but still...

You arenota doctor.

You arenota scientist.

You arenoteducated in these fields.

Heck, you're not even amathematician.

You're just an edgelord sitting in your parent's basement.

Why should anyone listen to you?

Edit : Reps to the first person who quotes my post so it bypasses his ignore.

If you really didn't respect what I say, you wouldn't be so eager to make sure I saw it, Anachron. I think you know I'm right, but you either have an agenda here or you have to rationalize it to yourself.

As I said, most of you are crazy since you're essentially accepting improbable and unfounded conspiracy theories over replicated and verified scientific results.

Good luck with your work. Let me know when you publish it.

I have a PhD in CS, yeah. And I also have a master degree in engineering, which means by definition I DO have a lot of physics and chemistry background, at least as much as some of these fake ass pill pushers calling themselves doctor.

Also, I really do not understand your point. I can read a study and comprehend it better than 99% of the population, BY DEFINITION. That's what a PhD is, dumbass, literally writing, reading, comprehending, and evaluating research. I have evaluated papers for publication in areas I am certainly no expert (one that comes to mind immediately is high availability clustering) and can determine if the conclusions arrived at are valid from the data presented. That's the entire ****ing point. I don't need to be an MD or have a PhD in immunology to know you can't take a sample size of like 12 people and extrapolate that to billions without a hell of a lot more research than "trust me, bro". All this crap is based almost entirely on "trust me, bro, I'm from the government!" Literally the last people you should ever trust. Couple that with the incessant badgering and insults thrown whenever anyone dared to question problematic conclusions and you are going to get a massive amount of pushback from anyone who knows WTF they're doing. Further, my point about being in academia for 20 years is that I KNOW how this **** works. Publish or perish. Even in my own work I took over a project from some girl but during the process I literally could not verify her results. At all. I think she made them up. I redid everything and the paper was ultimately published using the verifiable results I found. It sucked ass having to redo two years worth of research, but I did it because I wasn't about to put my name on anything that I couldn't back up. The difference here though is that I was 100% entirely self-funded during graduate school. I took no grants, wasn't on the hook to some external entity for my money. If I was some H1B who had to publish a paper or get deported and the government was funding my stuff, I would have probably just left that data in the paper and crossed my fingers no one asked about it. Go one step further. I work directly for the government and they want research done and the conclusion must match up with the policy they want to push. Do you honestly think those "researchers" would have a job if they produced a ton of papers that undermined everything the government was trying to do? Look at what they did to any doctor that dared question the crap going on...threatening to revoke their licenses, throw them in prison, whatever. I could write a ****ing book about this, but Thomas Sowell sums it up best: "...third parties who pay no price for being wrong". The veracity of their research is irrelevant; it exists purely to promote an agenda.

But just for the sake of pointing out ClownWorld…we have a militant communist rabidly sucking off capitalist governments and big pharma. Literally the very worst aspect of “capitalism”…or least the crony capitalism in today’s environment, and he defends it with every ounce of his being.

Best post in the entire thread.





But just for the sake of pointing out ClownWorld…we have a militant communist rabidly sucking off capitalist governments and big pharma. Literally the very worst aspect of “capitalism”…or least the crony capitalism in today’s environment, and he defends it with every ounce of his being.

Also, I can't forget how every nurse I knew IRL was furloughed during lockdown due to a lack of patients at the hospital.

And ambulance companies had to take out $10mil in PPP loans due to a lack of work.

After covid, I honestly don't think human retardation has a "peak"

hospitals are overloaded...brb... they're all so busy that they made tiktok dancing videos all day. honk

Peak clown world for me was seeing videos of people getting arrested on the beach.

Unreal

Ok but it's not just me bringing the claim. The majority of our best scientists and doctors happen to share my position. So that ad hominem fails. On the other hand, the challengers of these positions are fighting solo alleging a massive conspiracy against them. At best, they have fringe people of ill repute backing them. So you can mock me all you want, but so and so agrees with me. Who's on your team? It's a pretty short and not very impressive list.

I guess knowing I'm smarter, stronger, and faster than you keeps me going.

The same "experts" that said the unvaccinated were a threat to the "vaccinated?"

The pinnacle was when people were offered a lifesaving vaccine and refused to take it just out of spite. Fuking idiots.

If I gave you a test on molecular biology, you would fail. You also would fail at passing the STEP exams. You are not a doctor. You are not a scientist. You may be intelligent (less intelligent than mathematicians, obviously), but you are not educated in these fields. You allege a massive conspiracy when it is far more likely the effects observed are real. Engineers are also not scientists.

1) I took molecular biology as an undergrad and dropped it, so you are probably right, I would not pass a test. So what? Does this magically make me unable to comprehend the underlying premise of disease transmission that I learned in high school?
2) I went to a magnet school for kids who wanted to be doctors. I did more stuff in three years than most first year med students do, that is not even a joke. Source: I know two MDs, one of who lived with me when he was finishing up his last year at UTHSC, and we have talked about it at length. I understand the medical field more than you want to believe. I won't even get into the fact my dad was an ER nurse and a field medic in the Army...
3) Is the STEP exam some sort of entrance exam for medical school? Of course I wouldn't pass that, so the **** what? Give me 6 months and I bet I could do alright.
4) "Less intelligent than mathematicians". So you keep claiming CS isn't science, that means it's mathematics, correct? So...okay? You contradicted your own contradiction. If I'm not a scientist, I must be a mathematician, which means I am as smart as a mathematician as I am one. Or do you want to do some more bull**** logic tricks to convince yourself my position is false simply because I am "not a scientist"?
5) You have obviously never heard of applied science to say I am not a scientist. Sad! Might want to read up on it!
6) Did I say engineers are scientists? Nope. I made that statement specifically to counter your untenable position that I have no idea about physics. Which is ****ing laughable anyway since again I was going to go to MIT with aspirations to become a astrophysicist but decided to go into engineering instead. But whatever.
7) I allege nothing of the sort. There is no conspiracy. People are paid to produce specific results, and research that doesn't fit within the expected outcomes is either rejected or derided. How many years were you in graduate school and academia? Can you provide me concrete proof that all the examples of this I saw never happened?

Essentially you make spurious claims based on your own opinions, and when someone disputes those claims, providing evidence and logical conclusions to the contrary you do some sort of ****ed up appeal to authority mixed with strawmen and bandwagoning. You flip flop so much in the same sentence it's laughable to even consider your statements as nothing more than pure stupidity.

But, whatever. You do you and keep on sniffing your own farts. I am sure you are so much more intelligent than everyone else, especially people who have actual training in the field you claim to be an expert in.

Everything else you said is cope