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post 1688286033 08-13-2023, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Why would anyone care what the FDA recommends lol.
Perhaps you missed the title of the thread and the OP?
post 1688286173 08-13-2023, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Perhaps you missed the title of the thread and the OP?
Perhaps you did not read my post to you…
post 1688286233 08-13-2023, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Let's ignore the monoclonal antibodies and attribute everything to ivermectin

I've never said long covid is common. I have mentioned the estimated incidence is 10-20%.

You are of course entitled to view 10-20% as being common.

However, trying to attribute your interpretation of "common" to me seems fallacious.
Or that he eats healthy and works out constantly. Long Covid is single digits of infected. For one thing, 99% of the population has been infected at least once, the high majority of the population twice, others more. For every reported case there have been over 10 infections in the US by now, as practically nobody does more than a home test anymore. The only cases being reported anymore are people getting admitted to the hospital for hundreds of reasons. The hospitalization numbers are NOTHING more than a measure of the spread anymore. It's been that way for almost 2 years. As we all know since Omicron, the majority of infections since it all started it's a head cold or less for almost everyone who had gotten it.

Your delusions are entertaining in a way.
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post 1688286323 08-13-2023, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Or that he eats healthy and works out constantly. Long Covid is single digits of infected. For one thing, 99% of the population has been infected at least once, the high majority of the population twice, others more. For every reported case there have been over 10 infections in the US by now, as practically nobody does more than a home test anymore. The only cases being reported anymore are people getting admitted to the hospital for hundreds of reasons. The hospitalization numbers are NOTHING more than a measure of the spread anymore. It's been that way for almost 2 years. As we all know since Omicron, the majority of infections since it all started it's a head cold or less for almost everyone who had gotten it.

Your delusions are entertaining in a way.
Definitely the ivermectin and only the ivermectin!
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Probably because it's completely irrelevant
If it’s completely irrelevant why did you bring it up?
post 1688286443 08-13-2023, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
If it’s completely irrelevant why did you bring it up?
Read Dave's post
post 1688287143 08-13-2023, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Probably because it's completely irrelevant

I couldn't care less about what Joe Rogan takes or recommends.

This is the fella you should address






The FDA still does not recommend the use of ivermectin for prevention or treatment of covid.
So he's on TRT and HGH........ not like he's take pills for high cholesterol, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.....
post 1688287263 08-13-2023, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Let's ignore the monoclonal antibodies and attribute everything to ivermectin

I've never said long covid is "so common". I have mentioned the estimated incidence is 10-20%.

You are of course entitled to interpret 10-20% as being "common".

However, trying to attribute your interpretation of "common" to me seems fallacious.
10-20% would mean hundreds of millions, possibly a billion are suffering from "Long Covid?"
post 1688287513 08-13-2023, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
10-20% would mean hundreds of millions, possibly a billion are suffering from "Long Covid?"
Based on which data? Can you share?
post 1688288603 08-13-2023, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Definitely the ivermectin and only the ivermectin!
Eating well, having a high VO2 max instead of being a couch potato help with every illness. Beyond some random ESPN story I know it firsthand.
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post 1688288653 08-13-2023, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Based on which data? Can you share?
Herp Derp, if it isn't a "confirmed" case, then it isn't reliable.....

Let's say that only one billion got the rona, that would mean that 100-200 million are suffering long term complications?
post 1688288803 08-13-2023, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Eating well, having a high VO2 max instead of being a couch potato help with every illness. Beyond some random ESPN story I know it firsthand.
But ivermectin?
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Eating well, having a high VO2 max instead of being a couch potato help with every illness. Beyond some random ESPN story I know it firsthand.
You're crazy, the obvious answer is a fourth booster shot.....
post 1688288853 08-13-2023, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Herp Derp, if it isn't a "confirmed" case, then it isn't reliable.....

Let's say that only one billion got the rona, that would mean that 100-200 million are suffering long term complications?
I was just asking if you're willing to share the data upon which you're basing your estimates.

You suggested 1 billion have long covid. That's an order of magnitude higher.
post 1688289433 08-13-2023, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
But ivermectin?
It's definitely a good anti inflammatory, that's also a protease inhibitor, which also blocks TMPRSS2 at the endothelial cell membrane surface. That's what the NIH says.
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post 1688289523 08-13-2023, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
It's definitely a good anti inflammatory, that's also a protease inhibitor, which also blocks TMPRSS2 at the endothelial cell membrane surface. That's what the NIH says.
NIH also concluded ivermectin is ineffective for treatment of covid.

"Recommendation
The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19"

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...gs/ivermectin/
post 1688290493 08-13-2023, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
NIH also concluded ivermectin is ineffective for treatment of covid.

"Recommendation
The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19"

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...gs/ivermectin/
Are those physiological effects I mentioned not true? The NIH also concludes Atrazine and Roundup are safe as pesticides even though they're not and are banned in much of the world. How many studies did the NIH consider where Ivermectin was given as early intervention vs the many, many studies they looked at where Ivermectin was given to people already hospitalized? If relying on people already on ventilators you're doing a study designed for failure.

I'm unaware, what's the NIH stance on Vitamin D with Covid? Per Branch Covidians it barely matters, which is like saying roids barely help with building muscle.
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post 1688290833 08-13-2023, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Are those physiological effects I mentioned not true? The NIH also concludes Atrazine and Roundup are safe as pesticides even though they're not and are banned in much of the world. How many studies did the NIH consider where Ivermectin was given as early intervention vs the many, many studies they looked at where Ivermectin was given to people already hospitalized? If relying on people already on ventilators you're doing a study designed for failure.

I'm unaware, what's the NIH stance on Vitamin D with Covid? Per Branch Covidians it barely matters, which is like saying roids barely help with building muscle.
You referenced NIH, so I shared their recommendation with a link for all to review

The NIH also provided a table of the studies they reviewed (table 7b in the link I shared)

Vitamin D deficiency seems to be relevant, but loading up on it doesn't seem to do much in those who aren't deficient.

"Recommendation
There is insufficient evidence for the Panel to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin D for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19."

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...nts/vitamin-d/
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I was just asking if you're willing to share the data upon which you're basing your estimates.

You suggested 1 billion have long covid. That's an order of magnitude higher.
So 100-200 million people in the world are suffering long term complications?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So 100-200 million people in the world are suffering long term complications?
Is that your estimate?
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The FDAs job is to Protect corporations, not people.
As
post 1688293513 08-13-2023, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
The FDAs job is to Protect corporations, not people.
Ivermectin is manufactured by Merck
post 1688294223 08-13-2023, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Is that your estimate?
Rainman, let's here your estimate.
post 1688294863 08-13-2023, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Rainman, let'shereyour estimate.
Wat?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Ivermectin is manufactured by Merck
Originally. Plenty of others make it now too, hence it's $3 for a round of treatment. No profit. In 2021 Merck was trying to get their $600 medication approved for Covid. I can't even remember if it got approved, supplanted by Pfizer's useless pills.


Have fun pushing government talking points for another 60 hours this week.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Originally. Plenty of others make it now too, hence it's $3 for a round of treatment. No profit. In 2021 Merck was trying to get their $600 medication approved for Covid. I can't even remember if it got approved, supplanted by Pfizer's useless pills.


Have fun pushing government talking points for another 60 hours this week.
Pharma bad except for ivermectin?

Now I work for a foreign government rather than pharma?

I believe you can do better.

Nice dodge on the appeal to NIH tho
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Pharma bad except for ivermectin?

Now I work for a foreign government rather than pharma?

I believe you can do better.

Nice dodge on the appeal to NIH tho
Take your meds, broski. Have fun pushing government talking points for 60 hours this week, then again next week. If you're doing this for free in 2023, fuark.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Take your meds, broski. Have fun pushing government talking points for 60 hours this week, then again next week. If you're doing this for free in 2023, fuark.
Which meds? Which government?

I believe you can do better.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Why would anyone care what the FDA recommends lol. There is no money to be made for Ivermectin distribution so of course they would not get behind it. That does not change the fact it is extremely effective against Covid. Both Scott Gottlieb & Stephen Hahn were former commissioner’s for the FDA..guess who they work for now..? Pfizer & Moderna, just lol at you putting stick into government bureaucracy.


jesus that's infuriating
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