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02-16-2024, 01:21 PM
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02-16-2024, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
There's too much autistic semantics ITT over the literal meaning of doxxing. Obviously some people did work to surface and expose Bodhy's real identity. Call it whatever you want.In this case, there's really no one to root for. I don't like Bodhy but I don't like doxxing snitches aiming to ruin someone's life irl either.
Now, the real question is - did Bodhy deserve it? That's where the line can be more difficult to draw. I've probably read 5 of his posts ever so I have no idea, to me personally he always seemed okay.
The line would need to be extremely high for me though to warrant consciously exposing someone and potentially messing with their life. They'd have to be doxxing others, promoting ****philia or something very significant with evidence to back it up.
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02-16-2024, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
That gwg tryhard is next on the chopping listLol @ this thread, seeing the usual suspects, and the outcome
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02-16-2024, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Honestly wouldn't surprise me if he was three different posters trading reps with himself.Pretty sure Anachron was their figurehead lol.
02-16-2024, 02:21 PM
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The dude could obsess like no other, that's for sure. He really put of a lot of time and effort into his presence here.Honestly wouldn't surprise me if he was three different posters trading reps with himself.
02-16-2024, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Nobody deserves to be doxxed, although if ever there was someone who should make most people not care: It's Bodhy.There's too much autistic semantics ITT over the literal meaning of doxxing.Obviously some people did work to surface and expose Bodhy's real identity. Call it whatever you want.
Now, the real question is -did Bodhy deserve it?That's where the line can be more difficult to draw. I've probably read 5 of his posts ever so I have no idea, to me personally he always seemed okay.
The line would need to be extremely high for me though to warrant consciously exposing someone and potentially messing with their life. They'd have to be doxxing others, promoting ****philia or something very significant with evidence to back it up.
Now, the real question is -did Bodhy deserve it?That's where the line can be more difficult to draw. I've probably read 5 of his posts ever so I have no idea, to me personally he always seemed okay.
The line would need to be extremely high for me though to warrant consciously exposing someone and potentially messing with their life. They'd have to be doxxing others, promoting ****philia or something very significant with evidence to back it up.
On the doxxing: He did not expose his identity, only flirted with knowing it (which he does) and posting a picture of Bodhy from a Youtube video, where he partook in some Religious discussion. Now, the video *did* have his information but it was also quickly removed by the channel.
The question is: Was it removed before or after Anachron posted the link to the channel?
Bodhy was hard at work yesterday scrubbing away his identity in light of him knowing one person, well actually two, know who he really is. Anachron did take delight in mentioning what some of those were - but not by naming names, just saying more cryptic things like, "he just took down his Academia.org page" or things like that.
So, really: It mostly boils down to him posting the picture of who Bodhy actually is, full face reveal, did not have permission (obviously) and such.
I can certainly see why he was banned over that, it is an invasion of Bodhy's privacy - but at the same time, I'm not certain it fully qualifies for "doxxing" as it's just the face of a random balding fat guy in his late 30s and you can't really link Bodhy's real identity to it. You can't reverse lookup the image, they were cropped screenshots of the Youtube video which no longer exists on Youtube.
I am biased, I strongly dislike Bodhy. I have no qualms with Anachron but I think I can put my biases aside when I say: you don't doxx anyone, you shouldn't put up their pictures w/out their consent. I do think a ban of some kind is warranted, I can not say that a perm is in order, though.
GWG is a good guy for sure though. I saw the extent to what he did, which was embarrassing for Bodhy but only linking him to another anonymous account online (reddit). No doxxing from that.
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02-16-2024, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Bodhy completely aside, I'm pretty sure I could create a hypothetical where you'd agree uncovering someone's identity is ethically okay. Just a thought experiment, try it yourself.Nobody deserves to be doxxed, although if ever there was someone who should make most people not care: It's Bodhy.
In 99% of cases or more, you're right.
I'm not certain it fully qualifies for "doxxing"
I don't really care, I'm not sure why the literal obsession over the qualification for "doxxing". Although, as you say, posting up his face reasonably warrants a temporary ban.๐ฎ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ, ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
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02-16-2024, 02:29 PM
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Pretty obvious OP is a **** smearing, tranny pegging alt at this point. Imagine a grown man caring this much about what other grown men doing online. Screams bitch boy who never completed his PhD and is very angry for getting called out for being a huge racist.
02-16-2024, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
Meanwhile your ******* e-friends scour reddit tryna dig up dirt on some random ass miscer.. I don't hear you talking smack about themPretty obvious OP is a **** smearing, tranny pegging alt at this point. Imagine a grown man caring this much about what other grown men doing online. Screams bitch boy who never completed his PhD and is very angry for getting called out for being a huge racist.
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02-16-2024, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Good point, I suppose if someone were a known criminal or something, doxxing might be for the greater good. And, as suspect as some of the things Bodhy expouses are, while he might flirt with the notion of being a serial killing cannibalistic autist, nothing suggests he has done any serious crimes (aside from shoplifting and assault, which suck but nothing like being into CP or something)Bodhy completely aside, I'm pretty sure I could create a hypothetical where you'd agree uncovering someone's identity is ethically okay. Just a thought experiment, try it yourself.
In 99% of cases or more, you're right.
I don't really care, I'm not sure why the literal obsession over the qualification for "doxxing".
In 99% of cases or more, you're right.
I don't really care, I'm not sure why the literal obsession over the qualification for "doxxing".
Am I coming off as obsessed? I mean, it's kind of entertaining, but the second I log out here, I'm leaving all this here and done with it. I misc to pass time and to laugh for the most part. I also do think it's an interesting conversation: analyzing what Anachron did and quantifying what it was.
All probably irrelevant, because at the end of the day whether you or I define if as doxxing or not, it's not like we have any influence over what the mods have done here. Just, we're talking about it.
My stance: I don't think it was doxxing, but I do think it was an invasion of Bodhy's privacy. Agree, disagree, no skin off my teeth either way.
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02-16-2024, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Nobody deserves to be doxxed, period. We have spoken before, and you know that I did nothing to promote Bodhy's doxxing.Nobody deserves to be doxxed, although if ever there was someone who should make most people not care: It's Bodhy.
Having said that, I wonder why some cases of doxxing on this forum are taken so seriously, whereas others are not taken seriously at all. I won't go into details here, but some posters make very detailed efforts to try to doxx people, and it's something I personally condemn.
On what happened here - it reads as if Bodhy exposed himself too much with the information he shared, and that was used to show who he is. I'm not quite sure that this is "doxxing", but I'm also not a fan of invasions of privacy.
Especially when the Misc is fundamentally meant to be a locker room type discussion. At least, I thought so. Among posters that lift. *shrug*
02-16-2024, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
you've to agree to a definition in order to have a discussion. otherwise it's just baseless going back and forward. doxxing means dif things to us all apparantly when it's pretty clear what it is. if we are talking past eachother due to definitions how will we ever come to a conclusionThere's too much autistic semantics ITT over the literal meaning of doxxing.
02-16-2024, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By ithappenss⏩
Incorrect, you do not need to align on the definition of doxxing in order to debate whether exposing his pic, college etc. is okay.you've to agree to a definition in order to have a discussion. otherwise it's just baseless going back and forward. doxxing means dif things to us all apparantly when it's pretty clear what it is. if we are talking past eachother due to definitions how will we ever come to a conclusion
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
well clearly do because he thought it's not doxxing some of us did so there's a disconnect from the get go. if we all work based on 1 definition it's easier to discuss a topicIncorrect, you do not need to align on the definition of doxxing in order to debate whether exposing his pic, college etc. is okay.
02-16-2024, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By resoog⏩
that isnt the point though. whether people share their real views or troll annonymously as a charecter doxxing can lead to real life reprocusions in this woke world. having a bunch of woke robots like reddits' main page isnt exactly the best internet has to offer but that's where we are heading. in gaming people SWAT or send sht to your house. now the poor worker is out of money for what reason. this doxxing sht effects more than just a persons' ego based on their looksis a pic of your face personal information? it does provide information regarding your personal appearance
02-16-2024, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted By resoog⏩
It can pretty easily be used to track down more information if someone was motivated enoughis a pic of your face personal information? it does provide information regarding your personal appearance
I think in most cases people don't care much but someone like Bodhy makes enemies and then antagonize them constantly. It was only a matter of time for him
02-16-2024, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By ithappenss⏩
It clearly isnโt when 200+ posts have been spent on the defintion. Just discuss the specific actions.well clearly do because he thought it's not doxxing some of us did so there's a disconnect from the get go. if we all work based on 1 definition it's easier to discuss a topic
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
that's why it got no where. if we cant agree to what colour the sky is today because you think blue is something other than what i think it is then we'll never realise wether the person is being a disigenious troll (which we all know he is regardless) or are wether our definitions are not the same so we are arguing 2 different points. if the sky is brown to me and blue to you we both see eachothers as retards but only becasue our definitions dont alignIt clearly isnโt when 200+ posts have been spent on the defintion. Just discuss the specific actions.
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
All those dudes who harass him are in their 40's as well lolIt can pretty easily be used to track down more information if someone was motivated enough
I think in most cases people don't care much but someone like Bodhy makes enemies and then antagonize them constantly. It was only a matter of time for him
I think in most cases people don't care much but someone like Bodhy makes enemies and then antagonize them constantly. It was only a matter of time for him
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OP is not always a pha-got, but in this case, he is.
using pictures and links in the in public domain is not doxing.
using pictures and links in the in public domain is not doxing.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
OK, to play devils advocate, If I found your ******** profile and re-posted your pics which were exclusively posted there, would you say that's fair game?OP is not always a pha-got, but in this case, he is.
using pictures and links in the in public domain is not doxing.
using pictures and links in the in public domain is not doxing.
Y know, given its a public domain and all..
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Agree.He was doxxing.
He can sugar coat it all he wants, but he exposed alot of Bodhy that otherwise would never have been.
Just because everyone hates Bodhy doesn't mean it isn't pure cringe doxxing someone trying to **** with them irl all because yall beef on a small forum.
In this case, there's really no one to root for. I don't like Bodhy but I don't like doxxing snitches aiming to ruin someone's life irl either.
Ffs, there's a thread in r/p with thousands of posts just dedicated to negging and hating Bodhy. It's kind of ****in weird cringe tbh. Yeah he's a clown but holy fuk, dedicating that much time to hating someone on the internet is wild. Just chit post (pun intended) and move on like the real G's
He can sugar coat it all he wants, but he exposed alot of Bodhy that otherwise would never have been.
Just because everyone hates Bodhy doesn't mean it isn't pure cringe doxxing someone trying to **** with them irl all because yall beef on a small forum.
In this case, there's really no one to root for. I don't like Bodhy but I don't like doxxing snitches aiming to ruin someone's life irl either.
Ffs, there's a thread in r/p with thousands of posts just dedicated to negging and hating Bodhy. It's kind of ****in weird cringe tbh. Yeah he's a clown but holy fuk, dedicating that much time to hating someone on the internet is wild. Just chit post (pun intended) and move on like the real G's
Any kind of detectiving should be a perm ban.
And while Bodhy may be weird, the group that has become hyper obsessed with him have become far more weird and fukin cringe.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Bodhy is an odd ball,but all those losers who stalk him are unhinged weirdosAgree.
Any kind of detectiving should be a perm ban.
And while Bodhy may be weird, the group that has become hyper obsessed with him have become far more weird and fukin cringe.
Any kind of detectiving should be a perm ban.
And while Bodhy may be weird, the group that has become hyper obsessed with him have become far more weird and fukin cringe.
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