Relax, u did not **** up. Use whatever jokes u wanna use. If someone does not like ur humor, then that is their loss. Do not change ur sense of humor for anyone!

How did he go too far with the Michael Jackson reference? He has been dead for a few years and it was not offensive at all.

He can't make a reference to a dead celebrity lol?

Not that he's dead, that he said he would bleach his skin like MJ.

That was not offensive at all. U seriously think that was offensive, you lightweight?

MJ's decision to bleach his skin was HIS choice.

I meant since I don't act like the stereotypical black guy, certain people might consider myself an Uncle Tom or that I act "white" and an Uncle Tom is subservient to white people and tries to act like them so I made a reference to me being an Uncle Tom as a joke and putting the Michael Jackson part to enhance the joke because Michael Jackson's bleached his skin and certain blacks will bleach their skin to appear as white as possible. Do you understand now?

I don't think the Uncle Tom/MJ crack was offensive per se, but it may have come across as awkward. Or maybe she got her panties in a bunch b/c she's an overly sensitive pussy like many folks nowadays.

Regardless if it was that or something else entirely, I agree if she doesn't get (or want) you, quit wasting time fretting about it and move on to someone more worthwhile.

EDIT: The conversation was pretty one sided anyway, so you may have been fighting a losing battle from the start.

That's what I thought too and normally I wouldn't care but this has been going on for a whole year. I mean I get matches but they either never reply back or when they do reply back, they eventually stop replying before I go for the number, just randomly even if the conversation was going well. Only some chicks were actually engaged in the conversation. She didn't seem too engaged and was giving me short responses and at first I thought I'll just unmatch her but I just decided to see where it went. It doesn't matter anyway but the reason I brought it up because it annoys me when that happens.

Not offensive, I mean to much. Like, a run on sentence. I would have just said, "Good and yeah I'm looking for white man privileges lol"

Boom! Funny. Concise. Gives room to say more IF she's still hooked.

I always use the less is more rule. Some guys try to fit it all in at once. That's why when she keeps responding I never run out of things to say, because I never really finish a complete thought.

Or like this:

Him: Good and yeah I'm looking for white man privileges lol
Her: LOL, I know blah blah blah
Him.: Hell, I wanna be an Uncle Tom..... I might even change my skin like Michael Jackson!
Her: oh you! blah blah blah
Him: So quick, without thinking tell me 5 things about you not in your profile! GO!

(I've never had a woman not answer the 5 things.)

Him (Way later): So, it says you're looking for a gym buddy, I can teach you if you want me to

Scorpio, how many Tinder dates have you gone on in the past year and how quickly do you try to get them out on a date? I think you're putting too much thought into things and not letting things just be natural. A couple of one liners and you should have a date for within the next 3 days tops. They already think you're hot and you've engaged them... all you gotta do is close the deal.

It simply goes to show how many options they have and even Vick given he is shhexy.Above quoted is what I don't like. Even if joking, I think calling her crazy might be pushing it at the very start lol.

I didn't like the "change my skin color like MJ" because it could suggest you are not secure in your own skin.

Pushing for gym buddy so early on sounds too desperate and aggressive IMO. You need to make her comfortable first before giving any indication you want to meet, just like when number closing in person.You witty mofo you, I like lol


Update from last night's 2nd date: we did drinks instead of coffee as she was running late from work so I suggested we change date plans so she can get a bite to eat as a quick bs meal is not acceptable (shows her I'm caring/little things like this go a long way with a woman). She paid (I did first date). I steered the convo all night and remained fairly mysterious about myself and was rather surprised that she didn't ask more about me. Mystery is good in my mind though so whatever. Half way through I begin to notice she is finally giving me those sparkly/deep gazing "I really like you eyes". Additionally, in my benefit, ex sniffs out the whole situation like usual (every time brahs, dead srs) and is sending me multiple texts spread out over 20-30 min, PERFECT. Today would of been our anniversary so she was emo/reminiscing. After the last (6th text) from ex, my date says "who is that"???? I reply "just a friend, its not important" as I just glance at my phone that is on bench beside me. I did answer the phone when grandma called for hopeful brownie points/because my fam calls never get ignored no matter what. We closed the pub down and as soon as we left the building, I removed the scarf she had in her hand, switched it to her other hand and grabbed her hand as we walked to her car. She was teasing me a bit through text last couple days so I gave her a little pay back: arrived at her car, hugged to greet her good bye then held onto her as I pulled back, go in for kiss and turn my head at last second and graze her cheek and kiss it, along with her neck and ear as I whisper "so you like to tease huh". She laughed and THEN we started mauling. It was chilly outside and she was shivering so she suggested taking it into her car. We sat in the car for 2 more hours talking and taking breaks in between to maul. We stayed up so late that I only slept 2 hrs last night and she was covering up the time in her car so I don't leave, cute. Things are looking really good boyos and she is relationship caliber. Tentative plans set for Friday. I am almost certain she cakes in excess of 6 figures too, yessssss.

Sounds like that was a picture perfect date. Sounds like a page outta my book.

I'm seeing my girl again tomorrow and just booked a brunch at a swanky joint for Sunday morning at 11. Loving the way things have been going so far.

None so far sad to say lol. It's ridiculous, they just always stop responding no matter what I do. The reason I haven't just deleted my Tinder is because I'm determined to get at least one date or hook up. That's how stubborn I have, I've always been like that. Maybe eventually I just will delete this and Bumble and try my chances in real life. Maybe I am thinking too much about it but what I try to do is to be witty and engaging and then go for the number, usually within 4-6 responses, depending on how well the conversation is. Isn't that what you're supposed to do? I don't want to have a boring conversation. The thing is I just like to get straight to the point. It's like you guys who getting laid through Tinder like 3-4 years ago but now everything has changed and people are complaining about how the dynamics are fuked up. I came at a later time so I guess that's why I'm having so much trouble. Maybe I need pictures with a dog or something? None of my pictures are selfies. I also have Tinder Boost and Plus and I use Boost in certain times to get more matches and it does seem to somewhat work. The problem is woman have a short attention span and are fickle af all because of multiple options and them playing games.The change my skin color was just supposed to be a joke and if she was stupid enough to think I was serious then she's not really the type of person I wanna hang out with. Yeah I should have wait to ask her about the gym buddy thing til later. I added the "" after the crazy sentence to make her indicate I was joking but ok boss, I'll take what you say.

Edit: Plus don't you guys always say you gotta be quick to indicate your intentions in order to get the number before they lose interest? That's what I did.

I don't think it's that complicated, man. I just think you need to dumb down your humor a little bit, tease a tiny bit, and seal the deal and get the date set up quicker. I like where your head is at, however the process just needs a little refinement. This is not a "you" problem. Just approach it a different way. The hardest part is getting matches and understanding that a lot of girls aren't there for the same things as you.

Do they stop responding when you ask for number by any chance? I would work them more bro, I work women like 1-2 weeks before we talk about meeting. I know this is contrary to Vick's approach, but he is Chad, chits easier for him that prick. I know Pondus takes his time too. You don't want the woman to perceive it as desperado. There is also much less tension when you make her comfortable through messaging. Sometimes you realize they ain't for you and don't bother with date either.

When you really leave a good impression, they will also sometimes offer their number or ask when you will meet. I have also noticed that I bag each one that messages me first, so special emphasis on these ones for obvious reasons.

Your wit is very good bruh, just refine it a bit.

Vick: it was a very good date. She is affectionate too which I really like. What you doing for your next date?? I was thinking about doing Ripley's Aquarium.

Ok man thanks, I will apply what you said next time.Only one time I asked for the number did they stop replying and that was on Bumble. It could have been various reasons like I swore (she was a Christian and didn't swear from her conversations with me) or I asked for her number so we can go out for drinks (maybe I came on too strong?). The others just randomly stop replying before I even go for the number, no matter how good the conversation is. It annoys the hell out of me. One chick seemed pretty engaged in the conversation but she lived too far and I just eventually stopped replying. I take longer to reply back because I'm busy doing something else, they stop replying, they ask me to buy them a drink, I tell them, I'll buy them a drink but next time they buy me a drnk, they stop responding. Just lol. I don't like playing the long game cause the woman will go bored and probably stop replying. I mean I'm no Chad but on a dating site, I feel if I take too long, she's gonna get bored with me and go after a better-looking dude because women have options. Thanks for your input though and maybe in the future I will try to apply what you say.

You should see some of the things I say. I'm lightning fast with the whit, but I also have learned which lines work and use them as backups if they fit the bill.

I'll start posting some of my tinder convos of women that I'm done pursuing.

Eh I think its just the old/new generation thought process on how races should act which is dumb, as anything can appeal to anyone. Also if someone gets butt hurt over a joke you made your personalities won't match up too well so it's best you weeded it out quickly.


On a side note they sell skin whitening cream like no ones business in India/Asia it was mind boggling as I am white yet I try to get as tan as possible....

Wow - ask for you to buy them a drink. I would ghost instantly or make them feel stupid and say "gold digger alert, gold digger alert".

When you start messaging with her, do your best to reply asap, especially if she is. Delayed responses don't apply to dating apps because you are in competition and you got to be the first one to catch a fish.

I am thinking about things now. I think she is coming over tomorrow to hang with my dog and I, and after that I have a brunch reservation for us for Sunday. She is going away for the weekend next weekend so after that I'll likely have one more chance to see her before she goes and that's when I'll need an idea. So I have about a week to mull it over.

She loves aquariums. Have you been there before? I think I can drive there no prob.

Dat der double date.

He's less than 2 hours away =O.

This is perfectly logical. The problem with it is there's always a better person out there, so people never settle - and even if one side does, isn't the chances of the other person feeling the same way tiny?

I could be wrong here, perhaps the probability is higher if both are very compatible. You've been married, so clearly you chose someone and she chose you in a multi-dating environment.

But you guys are milling through dozens of women - I guess good values are just difficult to find.

They are. However it's easy for me to just feel when one is different than the rest.

I dislike 90%+ of women off the bat. I can tell they're either fake, whiners, gossip queens, superficial, materialistic, feminists etc. very quickly.

I don't know how some of you guys keep up running multiple, its too hectic for me.

I'm not always fast with the wit, was it something you always had or did you develop it over time?

I know instantly whether we can work or not. I wouldn't call it dislike. I just know if they'll work with me.It's very advantageous in the early part but after a week or two you really gotta decide which ones to keep and which ones to cut loose because over time it wears the fuuck out of you.

Her entitled, gold digging bitch-@ss thought she could take advantage of me cause she had a pussy and big tits and when I said you gotta pay for me next time, she was like "Nah forget it". Next time I'll do the gold digger thing or ghost LOL and gotcha man, will do next time with the fast replies. If she is taking her sweet time to reply back, I'll just ghost or take longer to reply back or something.

It's a **** test to see if you are a chump. Guys with options never supplicate, so you need to reply with something cheeky.

"Maybe... Let's meet up and I'll let you know if I think you are worth it."
"Why? Are you trying to get me out with you so you can take advantage of me? :P"
"No, but if you are lucky I'll make you breakfast in the morning."

Of if she seems like a mega-entitled-bitch:
"Only if you bring that hot friend of yours."

I don't care what anyone else says. If you say something sarcastic or cheeky, you have to use emojis to show you are being playful and not just being a dick.Um, I think I've always had it in me, but it took time to be able to be quick about it in terms of talking to women.

My mom used to say I was really funny as a kid. And I always said some off-the-wall **** to my friends just to make them laugh.

U remind me of myself young man. U have got potential to be a great Bay Area CHAD who knows what he wants and knows his way around a **** test. But u gotta quit dragging your knees so much.

If you continue dragging your knees you are gonna end up in front of an open fly and your wide open mouth will be easy access for a cock in need of some gud sucking.