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post 1673863193 12-31-2022, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
5 year olds talk about what they "want," adults discuss what is realistic.
Indeed vatniks want land but have proven to be too incompetent to keep them.

Lost Kiev
Lost Kharkiv
Lost Kherson

Hmmmm there's a trend here it seems... Ruzzia only losing vast swats of land for the last half year + Ruzzia losing crazy amounts of militairy equipment and being in such a bad state they have to go beg third world sh*tholes for arms. Meanwhile Ukraine getting better and more equipment from the west each week. And I'm not even talking about the superior intelligence Ukraine gets fed from NATO.

If this war continues, it will be a lose-lose situation for Ruzzia and especially the Putin regime in almost every regard possible.
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“A change in Russian military tactics. For the first time, a hotel in Kiev, where foreign military and political advisers live, was hit. So far, Russia has only hit military and infrastructure targets with missiles. And now, for the first time, the true power in Ukraine, foreign political and military advisers are being hit. Russia shows that in the new year 2023 it is ready to escalate, and it is ready to strike at the real enemy, i.e. the Western military political advisers. Alphavito Hotel.”


Consequences of shelling in Kiev The hotel "Alfavito" was destroyed near the Palace of Culture of Ukraine and the office of Ukrzaliznytsia. This was reported by Ukrainian journalist Sergei Leshchenko. According to some reports, it housed foreign military advisers.






I guess 2023 will be the year Russia runs out of missiles? ayyLMAO

Originally Posted By chalup
Are you seriously suggesting Russia has held back from hitting foreign military soldiers? Even though on video they are tortured/ killed? You can’t seriously believe that right? You are even more fukking stupid than I originally thought if you think Russia hasn’t been trying to hit foreign military targets since day 1. We just gonna forget when you retards bragged about the foreign barracks in Lviv getting hit and dozens of soldiers being killed? Keep shiet posting you loser.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
“A change in Russian military tactics. For the first time, a hotel in Kiev, where foreign military and political advisers live, was hit. So far, Russia has only hit military and infrastructure targets with missiles. And now, for the first time, the true power in Ukraine, foreign political and military advisers are being hit. Russia shows that in the new year 2023 it is ready to escalate, and it is ready to strike at the real enemy, i.e. the Western military political advisers. Alphavito Hotel.”


Consequences of shelling in Kiev The hotel "Alfavito" was destroyed near the Palace of Culture of Ukraine and the office of Ukrzaliznytsia. This was reported by Ukrainian journalist Sergei Leshchenko. According to some reports, it housed foreign military advisers.






I guess 2023 will be the year Russia runs out of missiles? ayyLMAO
Well that's a good way to get your enemy some ATACMS and western tanks lol.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
“A change in Russian military tactics. For the first time, a hotel in Kiev, where foreign military and political advisers live, was hit. So far, Russia has only hit military and infrastructure targets with missiles. And now, for the first time, the true power in Ukraine, foreign political and military advisers are being hit. Russia shows that in the new year 2023 it is ready to escalate, and it is ready to strike at the real enemy, i.e. the Western military political advisers. Alphavito Hotel.”


Consequences of shelling in Kiev The hotel "Alfavito" was destroyed near the Palace of Culture of Ukraine and the office of Ukrzaliznytsia. This was reported by Ukrainian journalist Sergei Leshchenko. According to some reports, it housed foreign military advisers.






I guess 2023 will be the year Russia runs out of missiles? ayyLMAO
About time those rockets started working

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post 1673863883 12-31-2022, 09:11 AM
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Lmfao Vlad the old coughing cuck crying about muh sanctions on ruski tv

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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337


what air defense doing?!
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia...-city-new-year


Russia prepping to get their angus peppered, u mad? Lviv has power, u mad?
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
“A change in Russian military tactics. For the first time, a hotel in Kiev, where foreign military and political advisers live, was hit. So far, Russia has only hit military and infrastructure targets with missiles. And now, for the first time, the true power in Ukraine, foreign political and military advisers are being hit. Russia shows that in the new year 2023 it is ready to escalate, and it is ready to strike at the real enemy, i.e. the Western military political advisers. Alphavito Hotel.”


Consequences of shelling in Kiev The hotel "Alfavito" was destroyed near the Palace of Culture of Ukraine and the office of Ukrzaliznytsia. This was reported by Ukrainian journalist Sergei Leshchenko. According to some reports, it housed foreign military advisers.






I guess 2023 will be the year Russia runs out of missiles? ayyLMAO
Are you seriously suggesting Russia has held back from hitting foreign military soldiers? Even though on video they are tortured/ killed? You can’t seriously believe that right? You are even more fukking stupid than I originally thought if you think Russia hasn’t been trying to hit foreign military targets since day 1. We just gonna forget when you retards bragged about the foreign barracks in Lviv getting hit and dozens of soldiers being killed? Keep shiet posting you loser.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Let me guess, vatniks want this war to end with Russia getting lands they stole from an independent nation. Meanwhile everyone else with a normal to high IQ wants this war to end with Russia "tactically retreating" to their own sh*thole.
I think they are roughly stalemated and should stop fighting now and accept what they have.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
I don't necessarily agree with this assessment but be honest enough to distinguish betweenadvisers and soldiers.Russia has not actually targeted non military personnel like diplomats and politicians- see the million foreign politicians walking around in Kiev on camera.
Lmfao, that's because ruskis are too incompetent for precision strikes and lack the intel to know where these targets are.

LMFAO if you actually believe it's because Ruzzia is playing the good guy.

You vatniks are so naive.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
5 year olds talk about what they "want," adults discuss what is realistic.
You don't appear to be an adult on this topic.
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post 1673865193 12-31-2022, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By metroins
You don't appear to be an adult on this topic.
He's a low IQ vatnik boomer cuck.
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I think they are roughly stalemated and should stop fighting now and accept what they have.
lmao
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Ideally id like to see a deal made on the donbas, recognition of crimea as russian, some water supply deal for crimea from ukraine, and russia legally recognizing all sovereign ukrainian territory.

All russia likes to play fast and loose with its promises like a teenage girl so idk how much you can trust their legal recognition lmao…


End of the day, that is ukraines decision to make. Its easy for me to say when im not ukrainian and have never lived there.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
I don't necessarily agree with this assessment but be honest enough to distinguish betweenadvisers and soldiers.Russia has not actually targeted non military personnel like diplomats and politicians- see the million foreign politicians walking around in Kiev on camera.
You aren’t serious right? You think Russia hasn’t hit or killed foreign politicians out of the kindness of their heart? Or because they can’t? Zelensky was in Bakmut publicized and Russia couldn’t get him, let’s not be naive.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Lmfao Vlad the old coughing cuck crying about muh sanctions on ruski tv

Looks like he's about to choke and collapse on the war soon like the entire kremlin machinery.
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i have to say here that this notion by some miscers that the sanctions on russia are somehow not going to do anything is just about the dumbest cope ive ever heard lmao...


what percentage of russias economy is reliant on oil&gas export? what percentage of global market for import of oil&gas do western nations represent? ill let you guys put 1 and 1 together on that.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Remember when the United States discouraged Ukraine from targeting the Russian chief of staff? The reason they did so was because they didn't want retaliation. You're so blinded by hatred that you can't give your enemy any credit.

Also if Russia targets politicians It might hurt their International support.
When did the US do that? Did they ever even have a open shot at killing the russian chief of staff?

But ya youre probably right. Killing a western politician visiting ukraine does the russians no good really and only risks drawing in nato to the war.

Generally speaking i think during wars its a pretty big taboo to go after foreign politicians like that.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
i have to say here that this notion by some miscers that the sanctions on russia are somehow not going to do anything is just about the dumbest cope ive ever heard lmao...


what percentage of russias economy is reliant on oil&gas export? what percentage of global market for import of oil&gas do western nations represent? ill let you guys put 1 and 1 together on that.
How much was made up from western contracts in the global south?

I'll remind you that Russia has not collapsed and the contraction was 3.3%, ten points less than attempted

So now that Russia has successfully prevented their economic collapse an inevitable peace deal will come and western customers turn the taps back on.

Now that Russia, though hurt, is projected to make up the entire cancelation of western contracts can completely live without the west. Europe is forced to pay a premium for US products and lose industrial base from the cost or turn back to Russia for better prosperity.

Sanctions have failed miserably and unfortunately empowered Russia. It was a remarkably stupid thing to do.
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Originally Posted By chalup
You aren’t serious right? You think Russia hasn’t hit or killed foreign politicians out of the kindness of their heart? Or because they can’t? Zelensky was in Bakmut publicized and Russia couldn’t get him, let’s not be naive.
Buddy. The Kremlin could kill the POTUS tomorrow, but it would start WW3. There is a reason the CIA hasn't hit Putin. Take a wild guess.
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Originally Posted By chalup
You aren’t serious right? You think Russia hasn’t hit or killed foreign politicians out of the kindness of their heart? Or because they can’t? Zelensky was in Bakmut publicized and Russia couldn’t get him, let’s not be naive.
Man, the way you look at things.

In the same week Zelensky and the Wagoner visited the same region. They got footage and left. Both are valid targets.

Missiles hit Kiev. Politicians visit Keiv.

How do you marry Zelensky in bakhmut and striking foreign diplomats in the same thought when the point was striking western military advisors on the ground in Ukraine, also valid targets.
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Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel
Buddy. The Kremlin could kill the POTUS tomorrow, but it would start WW3. There is a reason the CIA hasn't hit Putin. Take a wild guess.
Lmao dude pls Wincel. Never go full retard.
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But how much of it is Russian gas in storage?
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Originally Posted By memcop
How much was made up from western contracts in the global south?

I'll remind you that Russia has not collapsed and the contraction was 3.3%, ten points less than attempted

So now that Russia has successfully prevented their economic collapse an inevitable peace deal will come and western customers turn the taps back on.

Now that Russia, though hurt, is projected to make up the entire cancelation of western contracts can completely live without the west. Europe is forced to pay a premium for US products and lose industrial base from the cost or turn back to Russia for better prosperity.

Sanctions have failed miserably and unfortunately empowered Russia. It was a remarkably stupid thing to do.
Lol right, well then can you explain to me why there was a stark drop in their economic output following western sanctions in 2014?

Surely if they can take these historically stringent sanctions like its a duck walk, those shouldnt have even phased them… what happened?



Oh and the russian gdp contraction this year not being as bad as predicted… any chance that could be due to the incredible volatility in the energy markets? Volatility which is being corrected.
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Originally Posted By chalup
Lmao dude pls Wincel. Never go full retard.
He's right, it's not too hard to hit Biden. Putin hasn't left his basement and green screen, so it's a bit more difficult.

No reason to hit either, it would only create enemies and rally people behind the person hit.
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