And yet, not a single anti vaxxer has presented a single argument based on science. The closest I've seen is the dude above citing mercury, which is a legit concern.

If their research could hurt a huge industry, then them being ostracized and slandered would make sense. Science/Medicine is often a cult of personality these days and some hold on to scientific beliefs in an almost religious way. Science shouldn't be based on faith, but on solid proof. Attack the facts, not where they come from. I am not sure what to believe when it comes to vaccines. I for sure wouldn't disregard them being dangerous just because they are approved or because "that's crazy".

You have no scientific rebuttals to the questions posed to you.. please stop acting like youre actually knowledgeable in this field.
Yet another proven spammer. .

I wasn't referring to the wakefield study more to the evidence pointing towards a link between elevated interleukin-6 caused by vaccines and autism.

http://vaccinepapers.org/category/immune-activation/

As for he papers cited in that link defending vaccines, pretty much all of MMR autism studies don't take into account the healthy user effect or "healthy user bias". The healthy user effect is so strong that it renders just about all of the MMR autism studies useless.

Mercury was more of an issue in the past but has been phased out in most vaccines excluding ones such as the multi dose flu vaccine. Aluminium adjuvant toxicity is more of a concern nowadays and has been shown in animal experiments to cause brain inflammation.

http://vaccinepapers.org/category/aluminum/

Jesus christ do you not realize that how an infant can contract hep b has totally no relevance to this argument? It's nitpicking to the extreme.
Also, don't you think it would be better to vaccinate them now when they have the highest risk of the disease becoming chronic so that if some bizarre scenario happened when they would be exposed to it they wouldn't contract it?
The risk:reward ratio is extremely low to vaccinate them.
Strokes you say? Then how come strokes have been rapidly declining for the past decades?
Autism spike? Maybe doctors are simply diagnosing more patients now that it is better understood?

"If you want to prove something, don't try to prove it, but try your hardest to disprove it."

You are cherry picking and nitpicking things that have no correlation between eachother just to support your argument.

He's a fool, don't bother. He got ethered in the thread on this in R P also so yeah.

Point to this thread you speak of troll... you follow your text book brainwashed propaganda about AIDS and then I posted a video of the guy you think is god at the top of the whole scheme which shows the "doctor" exposing himself as a fraudster. Some of you Miscers are some of the most incredible delusional members of society.
The Hep B shot has been one of the main retarding ones specially because its given to infants... but the kicker is one might only needed it in highschool when heroin needle sharing and unprotected sex with children from prostitute mothers are at play. Even so... immunity is lost by the time an infant reaches that age that is why multiple 'booster' shots are administered (obviously to make sure the retarding process, little to extreme, is complete). Lastly a bizarre incident is something that does not happen... if you want to vaccinate and retard your child fine... dont expect others to follow your brainwashed ways.

'ASIA' - autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants.


Doctors have no tools to view the type of strokes from vaccine inflammation. The veins in your body are long enough to wrap around the world but 95% them are not visible for a machine to see stokes forming.
What they call autism today is an extreme kind of retardation that is classified compared to mild forms of brain conditions. Extreme retardation of the past looks like the extreme retardation of the present.

This. So much tinfoil in here

You cant counter a scientific point if your life depended on it.

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If you think you are smarter than this guy. GOOD LUCK!
List of credentials is crazy!!
Dr Andrew Moulden.

Having studied brain and behavior, neurosciences, clinical neuropsychology, child neurodevelopment, functional brain imaging, clinical neurology, clinical neuropsychiatry, clinical medicine, immunology, hematology, tests and measurement, and understanding the tools and assumptions and techniques of mainstream medicine.
Dr Andrew Moulden is a very smart man.

He explains why ALL Vaccines are causing Ischemic Strokes.
Learn about Ischemic strokes.
Learn how to recognize.
Learn about MASS
“MASS” stands for Moulden Anoxia Spectrum Syndromes. Anoxia refers to impaired oxygen delivery to tissue.

Reactions are occurring for us all, within several minutes, This is a function of two things:
1) Non-specific immune hyperstimulation (a process involved in all immune hypersensitivity states, which I have called “MASS”),
2) An electrostatic instability of blood flow that impairs fluid dynamics and oxygen/nutrient delivery throughout the bodies 60,000 miles of end capillary blood vessel units which are required for life, healing, cellular function, wellness, and health.

Aluminum is a coagulator or flocculant. Aluminum has a plus three electrical charge. All positive cations are “coagulators”, they cause particles with mass to come together, agglomerate, sediment, “sludge”. Aluminum has 84 times the capacity to cause agglomeration (sludging) as does Sodium (Na+), and element with a singular positive charge.

We use aluminum in water treatment plants, to cause “sludging”, agglomeration, and flocculation so that impurities in water sediment to the bottom of the water. We use aluminum in anti-antiperspirants since they cause “sludging” and blockage of the perspiration ducts in the arm pits. This same sludging is achieved in human tissue and blood flow from vaccinations with aluminum. The ischemic tissue attracts macro****es that attempt to “clean up” the damaged tissue as well as the sedimented aluminum. This causes an inflammatory response (or not). The aluminum cannot readily be removed from the tissue since the large positive charge (from Aluminum) derails the negative electrostatic carrying capacity of the blood where the aluminum has accumulated. The blood vessels, muscle, and fascia in the tissue area will be damaged from the on-going ischemia and the inability to remove aluminum from the area (an electrical charge problem). The macro****es and white blood cells will be called to this area to “clean up.” It is the act of the immune system chronically coming to this tissue area that perpetuate the problem and creates greater disease and the possibility for induction of an autoimmune response, or immunological tolerance through anergy or deletion.

M.A.S.S. is how vaccinations are causing a multitude of chronic illnesses and disease. It is not the germs causing this problem. It is the response of the body to de-railed and unbalanced immune challenges.

“MASS” stands for Moulden Anoxia Spectrum Syndromes. Anoxia refers to impaired oxygen delivery to tissue.

With MASS impairs blood flow and oxygenation to the tiny blood vessels in the eye, we sometimes see “retinal hemorrhages.” When MASS occurs in the brain, we call it intracerebral bleeding. When MASS occurs to the bones, we call it brittle bones. Collectively, we label this “shaken baby syndrome.”

A HORSE BY SEVERAL NAMES
When the blood sludging MASS process happens to brainstem areas controlling automatic respiration, the central drive for respiration is lost. We call this sudden infant death or sudden death.

When M.A.S.S. happens to the descending motor tracts in the brain, we call this paralysis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, infantile paralysis, seizures, encephalopathy.

CBS News has found that since 1988, the vaccine court has awarded money judgments, often in the millions of dollars, to thirteen hundred and twenty two families whose children suffered brain damage from vaccines. All of these children will show the same IMAM-12 ischemic brain damages as children who have been rendered autistic, learning disabled or dead after vaccinations. The process that causes brain damages from vaccination is also the same MASS process that causes all damages after vaccination – all vaccinations. It is not the vaccines doing this. It is “M.A.S.S.” ischemia. Vaccines have been inadvertently concocted to induce MASS.

When M.A.S.S. happens to internal organs or connective tissue, we call it ****tis, irritable bowel, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, post-concussion syndrome, a psychiatric disorder.

When M.A.S.S. happens in infants, and children, we call it autism-spectrum disorders, specific learning disabilities, attention deficit disorders, Aspergers syndrome, global developmental delay, and some childhood cancers. Sometimes M.A.S.S. causes or compounds cerebral palsy – both conditions result from impaired oxygenation and blood flow to the brain.

Sometimes we call M.A.S.S. “Kawasaki” syndrome, “Moyamoya”, “aseptic meningitis”, “encephalopathy”, “Meningitis”, hypsarrythmia, infantile spasms, West syndrome, or febrile seizures. It is all simply M.A.S.S. ischemia.

Autism and schizophrenia are the same ailment, in physiology, albeit the triggering pathways for schizophrenia (loss of immunological tolerance) has a different trajectory than acquired autism-spectrum disorders. Nonetheless, a similar mechanism is at work for both ailments – MASS ischemia from derailed blood flow.

When MASS happens in teen girls after Gardasil vaccination, it creates death, disease, illness, clouded thinking, and paralysis. Remarkably, the Gardasil shots are simply completing the silent ischemic vascular damages, to body and brain that were caused from each childhood vaccination the girl received. Sudden death is due to loss of central drive for respiration in the same manner that vaccinations are causing many cases of sudden infant death. Sometimes seizures may also occur. The course can be waxing and waning. All vaccines are causing these problems – silently, in an additive manner over each vaccination, for all of us. No one is spared.

When MASS happens in military and armed services personnel, this causes “Gulf war Syndrome.”

When MASS happens to schizophrenia patients being treated with powerful psychotropic drugs that de-rail white blood cell functions, sudden “unexplained” death can occur by the same MASS sudden death sequence that vaccinations sometimes induce in infants and teen girls.

When MASS happens in the elderly, it causes a slow, step-wise deterioration in cognitive functions – we call this dementia. This is slow strangulation of brain tissue from ischemia at the microscopic level.

Febrile seizures are not caused by “fever”. The fever expands the diameter of the tiny blood vessels so that more white blood cell infection fighting “soldiers” can traverse down the “roads.” When the blood vessel roads become jammed, by too many white blood cells, and altered fluid dynamics, there is ischemia. Ischemia causes a lack of oxygen to the brain.

No oxygen to electrically active cells causes depolarization. In the heart, ischemia causes arrhythmia – a seizure to the heart. In the brain, ischemia causes seizures – arrhythmia to the brain. Seizures are a symptom of impaired blood flow and oxygenation just like vaccine induced autism-spectrum is a symptom of the same process.

lmao the guy isn't even a real doctor and has no proof of his credentials.

Lol @ full grown adults that have to come up with these poor excuses to justify their dissociative disorder.

so wait, your justification for lending credibility to his work is that he is 'smart and highly credentialed', right? Those claims are unsubstantiated. If you can prove it, ill at least entertain his work.

Thats okay... the world needs rat race peasants... I probably shouldnt disrupt the world order.

not sure what you're trying to prove with those images. Once again you have yet to provide any sort of real evidence for your side. You aren't very good at this.