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Originally Posted By FrankGrimesJr⏩
fixedI'm getting tired people here saying they make $150k and makes ends meet because they have poor money management skills.
If you make $150k and complain you can't make itanywhere on the entire planet, you arecompletely retarded. Even paying $5000/mo rent you still should have plenty of money left over.
If you make $150k and complain you can't make itanywhere on the entire planet, you arecompletely retarded. Even paying $5000/mo rent you still should have plenty of money left over.
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Originally Posted By FrankGrimesJr⏩
ive never once seen any media outlet report anything remotely like thisthat sounds more believable. I have a hard time believing when the media keeps boasting $150k is the median income for millennials.
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Originally Posted By TommyTuffGuy⏩
Tbh I couldn't even imagine making under $40k. I know that's the reality for almost half of the country, but it seems poverty af. I guess you just get used to what you have, and what the people around you have.This chart is exactly what I figured REAL life wages were like. lol. MISC acts like 40K a year is bum chit and it's actually pretty good for the majority of Americans.
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Originally Posted By Murph0408⏩
Maybe because it takes a really good drive to stay in shape and lift treefiddy like everyone on the misc. does and that translates really well to business life?and yet everybody on the misc makes 75k after college and 150k by age 26. pretty incredible. we're an elite group of posters i guess.
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Typical misc analysis of a single source with no consideration of different variables, gj op
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Originally Posted By solidus2k3⏩
U w0t m8? You make $10^6,000?!6k figure income crew
But seriously, the picture isn't as bleak as these stats make it look. If you look at income stats, it becomes immediately clear that a lack of education and single/no income households drag the average down. If you're in a household with two earners, both of whom have a bachelors degree and work full time, you're almost guaranteed to make 6 figures between the two of you. How do I figure?
Percentage of people in each quintile that have a college degree: 12.9, 18.2, 28.5, 44.6 and 77.2, multiply them each by .2, and you get 2.58%, 3.64%, 5.7%, 8.92% and 15.44%. Those figures represent the percentage of people that fall into a given quintile AND have a college degree. Once you add them up, you get 36.28% of the US population aged 25+ has a college degree. Then, you can divide the percentage of the total population that falls into a given quintile AND has a college degree by the total percentage of people who have a college degree. You find that 42.56% of bachelors degree holders are in the top quintile, 24.59% fall in the next quintile, 15.71% are in the middle quintile, 10.03% are in the second lowest quintile and 7.11% are in the lowest quintile.
The average household in the top quintile earns $181,905 and averages 2.04 earners per household, or $89,169 per earner. The average household in the second quintile earns $82,098 and averages 1.71 earners per household, or $48,011 per earner. The average household in the middle quintile earns $51,179 and averages 1.32 earners per household, or $38,772 per earner. The average household in the second poorest quintile earns $29,969 and averages .9 earners per household, or $32,996 per earner. The average household in the poorest quintile earns $11,490 and averages .45 earners per household, or $25,533 per earner.
If you figure you have a 42.56% chance of earning $89,169, a 24.59% chance of earning $48,011, a 15.71% chance of earning $38,772, a 10.03% chance of earning $32,996 and a 7.11% chance of earning $25,533, you would expect to earn about $60,970.46. If you make the further assumption that you have a spouse and she earns an equivalent income, you make $121,940.92 together, which puts you in the top ~18% of households.
If you think about it a little more, that only assumes a nuclear family where both parents have a bachelors. None of this math assumes you went to a good university, did well, had a relevant major and went into a lucrative field, got a graduate degree, etc, and let's face it, most people with a bachelors degree didn't do any of that, so if you did, there's a great chance you'll make a lot more than $122k.
Cliffs: Lack of education and households with <2 earners skew the stats way down.
Sources:http://www.aei.org/publication/expla...-demographics/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Househ..._United_States
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OP's post is true. This is the new reality. Baby boomer's fuked Millennials over big time.
inb4 'pull yourself up by your bootstrap'
LOL this is late stage capitalism
inb4 'pull yourself up by your bootstrap'
LOL this is late stage capitalism
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$22K in Cali.....? Jesus.... How the fuk do people even live in that state on that salary unless they're still with mom and pop at home?
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Originally Posted By bryan324⏩
you are trying too hard...Why vastly exaggerated? Yes I do believe so, my friends and myself are evidence of it. I have been asked to speak at my old high school on multiple occasions to let kids know there are alternative paths to white collar jobs. Brainwashed morons like you are my target audience, success is largely up to individuals. I have literally had Harvard educated interns at my architectural firm that are clueless, meanwhile we have had community college kids that are fukin rockstars.
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Originally Posted By JitteryJoes⏩
From a purely economic standpoint, the standard of living is higher now than at any other point in history, because as you said, we're in late stage capitalism.OP's post is true. This is the new reality. Baby boomer's fuked Millennials over big time.
inb4 'pull yourself up by your bootstrap'
LOL this is late stage capitalism
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Originally Posted By vt2medellin⏩
brb whats inflationFrom a purely economic standpoint, the standard of living is higher now than at any other point in history, because as you said, we're in late stage capitalism.
brb whats housing
brb whats cost of living
brb whats over saturated job market
brb worthless college degrees
LOL at 'standard of living' aka 'oh you kids have a iphone and the internet, u got it easy!'
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Its funny how both libs and conservatives argue over the stupid **** like feminist rape culture and other made up policies meanwhile the suyper rich continue to canabalize the economy and ruin it for both the idealistic millenials and cousin fuking rednecks alike. The rich dont care which political party you belong to, they care about making themselves richer.
Income inequality is the biggest issue and no one gives it any attention. Its the one issue that spans both sides of the isle. This society is not sustainable without a solid middle class that spends money. The next depression will be due to the spending class unable to spend./
Income inequality is the biggest issue and no one gives it any attention. Its the one issue that spans both sides of the isle. This society is not sustainable without a solid middle class that spends money. The next depression will be due to the spending class unable to spend./
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
This.Its funny how both libs and conservatives argue over the stupid **** like feminist rape culture and other made up policies meanwhile the suyper rich continue to canabalize the economy and ruin it for both the idealistic millenials and cousin fuking rednecks alike. The rich dont care which political party you belong to, they care about making themselves richer.
Income inequality is the biggest issue and no one gives it any attention. Its the one issue that spans both sides of the isle. This society is not sustainable without a solid middle class that spends money. The next depression will be due to the spending class unable to spend./
Income inequality is the biggest issue and no one gives it any attention. Its the one issue that spans both sides of the isle. This society is not sustainable without a solid middle class that spends money. The next depression will be due to the spending class unable to spend./
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Originally Posted By JitteryJoes⏩
First off, I'm not some bitter baby boomer complaining about the younger generation, I'm 19 and appreciate the fact that modern capitalism has given me, and most other Americans, a higher standard of living than almost anywhere else in the world and certainly everybody who lived before us.brb whats inflation
brb whats housing
brb whats cost of living
LOL at 'standard of living' aka 'oh you kids have a iphone and the internet, u got it easy!'
lmao wow
brb whats housing
brb whats cost of living
LOL at 'standard of living' aka 'oh you kids have a iphone and the internet, u got it easy!'
lmao wow
Secondly, inflation isn't caused by capitalism you fukking idiot, it's caused by essentially socialism. This is how it happens, the government decides to continue to expand and spend frivolously, and when it can't keep up, it starts to increase taxes. Eventually, that becomes unfeasible both politically and economically. Next, we start to borrow, but even that gets hard after a while, so what do we do? We start printing out money to pay for our massive government, and when you print money, you get inflation.
That is the exact opposite of what capitalists want. In the first place, we want to hold the government responsible and keep spending as low as possible so there is never a need to print money to cover the interest on previous loans. Secondly, we want to tie our currency to gold and/or silver, so it is impossible for the government to just print out money, thereby devaluing the money owned by the people. High cost of housing/living is a direct result of big government and central planning aka socialism.
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I'd love to see this compared to buying power and compared to the decades.
Guarantee this is the worst it's been in a very long time.
Guarantee this is the worst it's been in a very long time.
Belief without evidence is a fools game.
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
The only goods that have risen in price relative to inflation are healthcare and higher educationI'd love to see this compared to buying power and compared to the decades.
Guarantee this is the worst it's been in a very long time.
Guarantee this is the worst it's been in a very long time.
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Originally Posted By vt2medellin⏩
Idk how you forgot housing in there, you know just some of the basic necessities to live, then you can compare to non-college jobs to jobs you need an education for etc etcThe only goods that have risen in price relative to inflation are healthcare and higher education
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Originally Posted By vt2medellin⏩
"inflation caused by socialism"First off, I'm not some bitter baby boomer complaining about the younger generation, I'm 19 and appreciate the fact that modern capitalism has given me, and most other Americans, a higher standard of living than almost anywhere else in the world and certainly everybody who lived before us.
Secondly, inflation isn't caused by capitalism you fukking idiot, it's caused by essentially socialism. This is how it happens, the government decides to continue to expand and spend frivolously, and when it can't keep up, it starts to increase taxes. Eventually, that becomes unfeasible both politically and economically. Next, we start to borrow, but even that gets hard after a while, so what do we do? We start printing out money to pay for our massive government, and when you print money, you get inflation.
That is the exact opposite of what capitalists want. In the first place, we want to hold the government responsible and keep spending as low as possible so there is never a need to print money to cover the interest on previous loans. Secondly, we want to tie our currency to gold and/or silver, so it is impossible for the government to just print out money, thereby devaluing the money owned by the people. High cost of housing/living is a direct result of big government and central planning aka socialism.
Secondly, inflation isn't caused by capitalism you fukking idiot, it's caused by essentially socialism. This is how it happens, the government decides to continue to expand and spend frivolously, and when it can't keep up, it starts to increase taxes. Eventually, that becomes unfeasible both politically and economically. Next, we start to borrow, but even that gets hard after a while, so what do we do? We start printing out money to pay for our massive government, and when you print money, you get inflation.
That is the exact opposite of what capitalists want. In the first place, we want to hold the government responsible and keep spending as low as possible so there is never a need to print money to cover the interest on previous loans. Secondly, we want to tie our currency to gold and/or silver, so it is impossible for the government to just print out money, thereby devaluing the money owned by the people. High cost of housing/living is a direct result of big government and central planning aka socialism.
LOL I'm done here.
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Originally Posted By vt2medellin⏩
LOL a 19 year old trying to school us.The only goods that have risen in price relative to inflation are healthcare and higher education
HE FORGOT HOUSING GUYS!! LISTEN TO HIM BROS! /s
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Originally Posted By JitteryJoes⏩
Why don't you use that infinite wisdom to explain why inflation happens?"inflation caused by socialism"
LOL I'm done here.
LOL I'm done here.
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Originally Posted By Chicane9⏩
Strong math since on your profile, it says age 29. 13 posts total. May 2017 join date.I'm 28 and have been making 100K since age of 24
Hoooooly **** this thread is making me so grateful you can't even imagine
Hoooooly **** this thread is making me so grateful you can't even imagine
troll spotted lmao ayooo
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You mean the misc's bullchit about $600k two days out of college as a STEM is not real?
LOL...
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Originally Posted By vt2medellin⏩
brb ignoring you, good night sweet prince. may the zyzz be with you.Why don't you use that infinite wisdom to explain why inflation happens?
Originally Posted By Chicane9⏩
troll spotted again. brb troll alertIm 28, made 156K last year. I bought my first house at 24 and it was 2000 sqr ft with very nice new furniture in a nice area
Hoooooly ****, I'm so grateful right now you have no idea
Hoooooly ****, I'm so grateful right now you have no idea
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Originally Posted By JitteryJoes⏩
LOL a 19 year old trying to school us.
HE FORGOT HOUSING GUYS!! LISTEN TO HIM BROS! /s
lmao wow.
HE FORGOT HOUSING GUYS!! LISTEN TO HIM BROS! /s
lmao wow.
Don't take it from me, take it from Milton Friedman.
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