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Originally Posted By RedPolo⏩
why is allahu akbar in there
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post 1543813341 02-14-2018, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Eh...these mass shooters, although not specific, definitely have a motive in mind and want to cause pain and terrorize in their own way.

Mass shooters IMO ARE domestic terrorists. I know it can sound like a stretch though.
It sounds like a stretch because it is a stretch. You're basically telling us your opinion on what is considered (or maybe what should be considered?) a terrorist, while not using the defition of a terrorist to do so. There's a clear definiton of what a terrorist is, and sometimes mass shooters are not that.
Calling all mass shooters domestic terrorists makes little to no sense in my opinion.

Sadists want to cause pain and terrorize in their own way. Are they also terrorists?

If you want an example of a mass shooter who is considered a domestic terrorist to make the distinction clear, Anders Brevik is the perfect example.
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CNN is currently sitting there thinking of how we can blame Trump for this.

Nevermind tons of shootings happened under Obama and no one blamed him.
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Imagine being a parent and losing a child like this.
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No wonder, those are the kids raised by those who said they would 10/10 kill a burglar if he enters in their house. Mind blowing at how normal it is for many americans to take someone else's life without blinking. Yeah, I get it, it's a burglar in your house stealing your 2 k laptop, that's still not an explanation to be that enthusiastic about killing someone.
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post 1543813921 02-14-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
why is allahu akbar in there
It's on the archive on one of his instagrams and idk if people can edit these pages

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Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle⏩
CNN is currently sitting there thinking of how we can blame Trump for this.

Nevermind tons of shootings happened under Obama and no one blamed him.
They'll say drumpf isnt addressing it, even though Obama didnt either
post 1543814001 02-14-2018, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Are you really saying movies invented bad behavior, instead of simply mirroring events and stories that have always been around? Have you not ever read history?
Are you really saying lack of communities invented bad behavior? Of course not.

Modern entertainment does the part as much as any bad diet or lack of community; I myself put it many levelsabovein damaging effects, but that is beside the point.

If you think otherwise then you arefarfaraway from grasping the reality that we live in.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
No wonder, those are the kids raised by those who said they would 10/10 kill a burglar if he enters in their house. Mind blowing at how normal it is for many americans to take someone else's life without blinking. Yeah, I get it, it's a burglar in your house stealing your 2 k laptop, that's still not an explanation to be that enthusiastic about killing someone.
Kids killing each other at school " USA is a great empire " never was and never going to be, but was always known for the most idiotic things happening
Really? Do you know their parents said that exact thing? You think the only people who are sane are those who would let home invaders murder their family? Jesus ****ing christ you are dumb.
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Originally Posted By Chump1987⏩
So much anti white male racism on twitter, its insane.

Why cant people understand that for an attack to be classed as terrorism it has to have an political or religious motive? A guy walking into a school and shooting people is ****ing horrible but if its not done for those reasons then it isn't a terrorist attack, skin colour has nothing to do with it.
That classic white boi name 'Nicolas Jesus de Cruz'

It is cringe, you just know these feminists and alt left get excited when they see the shooter isn't brown. Never mind the dead's blood, still warm on the ground.
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Wait he was arab? Guess he was a terrorist then . . .
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
No wonder, those are the kids raised by those who said they would 10/10 kill a burglar if he enters in their house. Mind blowing at how normal it is for many americans to take someone else's life without blinking. Yeah, I get it, it's a burglar in your house stealing your 2 k laptop, that's still not an explanation to be that enthusiastic about killing someone.
Kids killing each other at school " USA is a great empire " never was and never going to be, but was always known for the most idiotic things happening
Wtf would you do if someone came into your house in the middle of the night suck his dick? If someone's willing to break the law and steal my stuff I assume he/she is willing to kill me if I notice.
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I wonder if Valentines day played a part.
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff⏩
I wonder if Valentines day played a part.
Probably, these guys are supreme types so probably some incel mad at no hole
post 1543814691 02-14-2018, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
No wonder, those are the kids raised by those who said they would 10/10 kill a burglar if he enters in their house. Mind blowing at how normal it is for many americans to take someone else's life without blinking. Yeah, I get it, it's a burglar in your house stealing your 2 k laptop, that's still not an explanation to be that enthusiastic about killing someone.
Kids killing each other at school " USA is a great empire " never was and never going to be, but was always known for the most idiotic things happening
I just entered the thread and skimmed everything, haven't posted anything yet but saw this.

You do realize that we have 350 million people in this massive country right?

Probably 200 million kids went to school today. Out of those 200 million, one of them with severe mental issues brought a gun to school and shot people.

The other 199,999,999 continued on as normal.

"Omg why are all the people in the US ok with murder, what an idiotic place" - it sounds more like you are struggling with your logic. Our DNA isn't different than yours (evolution doesn't work that quickly) and our culture does not promote school shootings.
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff⏩
I wonder if Valentines day played a part.
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Yes definitely.

When will they learn.
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post 1543814721 02-14-2018, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By 21stCenturyKid⏩
Are you really saying lack of communities invented bad behavior? Of course not.

Modern entertainment does the part as much as any bad diet or lack of community; I myself put it many levelsabovein damaging effects, but that is beside the point.

If you think otherwise then you arefarfaraway from grasping the reality that we live in.
Lack of community makes us care less about each other. We don't feel we belong on the same team. You can see evidence for this when mass tragedies strike like 9-11. Tons of NYC residents remarked how oddly nice everyone became to one another. The bombing of london is another example.

There is ZERO evidence that movies make people kill more. The numbers actually show the opposite effect. Christian groups in the 90s went on a crusade to ban violent video games and funded studies to show they caused an increase in violence, except the studies showed the opposite.

You are young without much experience but you'll eventually learn if you're smart and keep an open mind. Watching Die Hard isn't going to magically make someone go shoot up Nakatomi Plaza. You need a severely unhappy, troubled, and disconnected individual for this. I'm not wrong and can debate you all day on this but it's sort of pointless. Countless psychologists who are experts agree with my view. Find some credible sources that video games, movies and music directly lead to increased homicides and post it.
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Originally Posted By Hadtodoit⏩
Probably 200 million kids went to school today. Out of those 200 million, one of them with severe mental issues brought a gun to school and shot people.

The other 199,999,999 continued on as normal.
We just gon pretend this isnt a recurring pattern, rather than a one off?

America has a problem. lol at denying it.
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Originally Posted By RedPolo⏩
It's on the archive on one of his instagrams but someone might have edited it in there

https://web.archive.org/web/20180214.../cruz_nikolas/
damn his IG got ethered that fast huh
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Really? Do you know their parents said that exact thing? You think the only people who are sane are those who would let home invaders murder their family? Jesus ****ing christ you are dumb.
Oh please, don't play the "someone murdering my family" card cause this kind of white and black thinking is the reason why crazy people own guns and kill others in the first place. You can't really understand more than that, don't you ? My heart is with those who actually lost someone there and I can't imagine how they feel, but America's lust for blood is the reason why those poor kids are gone, because you want to live with the jungle rules but can't understand the result. Also, read about how mass murders and such tragedies are society's fault. YOU included dumbazz
Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
Wtf would you do if someone came into your house in the middle of the night suck his dick? If someone's willing to break the law and steal my stuff I assume he/she is willing to kill me if I notice.
If someone wants to steal my values IDGAF cause they are replaceable compared to the trauma of taking someone's life. You think is easy and forgettable ? Look at soldiers who did their duty. Also, I wouldn't put my life in danger.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
damn his IG got ethered that fast huh
A lot of law enforcement officials are trying to remove the 'instant celebrity' effect of mass shooters, and I think it would help. I'm sure knowing they will be on everyone's minds and mouths is a factor in driving them to do these.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
Oh please, don't play the "someone murdering my family" card cause this kind of white and black thinking is the reason why crazy people own guns and kill others in the first place. You can't really understand more than that, don't you ? My heart is with those who actually lost someone there and I can't imagine how they feel, but America's lust for blood is the reason why those poor kids are gone, because you want to live with the jungle rules but can't understand the result. Also, read about how mass murders and such tragedies are society's fault. YOU included dumbazz

If someone wants to steal my values IDGAF cause they are replaceable compared to the trauma of taking someone's life. You think is easy and forgettable ? Look at soldiers who did their duty. Also, I wouldn't put my life in danger.
"Blood lust," and "jungle rules."

Roxy, wtf are you even talking about?
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
We just gon pretend this isnt a recurring pattern, rather than a one off?

America has a problem. lol at denying it.
statistically, no
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Originally Posted By Hadtodoit⏩
I just entered the thread and skimmed everything, haven't posted anything yet but saw this.

You do realize that we have 350 million people in this massive country right?

Probably 200 million kids went to school today. Out of those 200 million, one of them with severe mental issues brought a gun to school and shot people.

The other 199,999,999 continued on as normal.

"Omg why are all the people in the US ok with murder, what an idiotic place" - it sounds more like you are struggling with your logic. Our DNA isn't different than yours (evolution doesn't work that quickly) and our culture does not promote school shootings.
Nah, your culture does not promote school shootings, but makes it possible.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
A lot of law enforcement officials are trying to remove the 'instant celebrity' effect of mass shooters, and I think it would help. I'm sure knowing they will be on everyone's minds and mouths is a factor in driving them to do these.
Yeah good point. Now the media has to do their job.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
Oh please, don't play the "someone murdering my family" card cause this kind of white and black thinking is the reason why crazy people own guns and kill others in the first place. You can't really understand more than that, don't you ? My heart is with those who actually lost someone there and I can't imagine how they feel, but America's lust for blood is the reason why those poor kids are gone, because you want to live with the jungle rules but can't understand the result. Also, read about how mass murders and such tragedies are society's fault. YOU included dumbazz

If someone wants to steal my values IDGAF cause they are replaceable compared to the trauma of taking someone's life. You think is easy and forgettable ? Look at soldiers who did their duty. Also, I wouldn't put my life in danger.
If someone enters my home forcefully, it's a declaration of war on myself. I have to assume the worse. If you don't, and are unwilling to protect yourself, then you have not evolved to survive, you have evolved to become a victim and die. Have you ever been home invaded? Because I have, and it's scary as ****ing ****. Your pulse will race, you will want to piss yourself, and in that moment you will have a fight or flight reaction. You are talking out of your ass and have no idea what it's like in reality. You think home invaders should have the RIGHT to enter and not be harmed? **** you and **** everything you stand for. You are the enemy of freedom and liberty. It's not a 'lust for blood' its the willingness to protect yourself and the ones you love from those seeking to do evil. By your logic cops shouldn't stop criminals in the act if it means shooting them either, because that's naughty and mean. Some dogs are bad and just need to be put down. If someone forces their way into an occupied home, then they are willing to do harm to whoever tries to stop them.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Lack of community makes us care less about each other. We don't feel we belong on the same team. You can see evidence for this when mass tragedies strike like 9-11. Tons of NYC residents remarked how oddly nice everyone became to one another. The bombing of london is another example.

There is ZERO evidence that movies make people kill more. The numbers actually show the opposite effect. Christian groups in the 90s went on a crusade to ban violent video games and funded studies to show they caused an increase in violence, except the studies showed the opposite.

You are young without much experience but you'll eventually learn if you're smart and keep an open mind. Watching Die Hard isn't going to magically make someone go shoot up Nakatomi Plaza. You need a severely unhappy, troubled, and disconnected individual for this. I'm not wrong and can debate you all day on this but it's sort of pointless. Countless psychologists who are experts agree with my view. Find some credible sources that video games, movies and music directly lead to increased homicides and post it.
Stop this thinking that I am some Mormon who is scared that Counter-Strike will turn young lil' Johnny into a dangerous madman. This is not what I am implying by any stretch of the imagination. You spout that bad-diets lead to unhappiness, that lack of community makes us care less about each other: You think mindlessly consuming degenerate television for hours upon hours does not do the exact same? I, like you, can post numerous studies.


You said this:
We live off sugar - when in human history has that been the case except in the last 30-40 years?
Then I say this:
We live off the over-consumption of degenerate media - when in human history has that been the case expect in the last 30-40 years?
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