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Originally Posted By 2RDEYE⏩
My main issue was them coming up with the arbitrary number of 73 hours for the entire show. With HBO giving/wanting them to take as long as they needed to properly wrap up the series, they decided to rush it because they want to go onto 'bigger and better' things. Im fine with them wanting to move on but give it to someone else to give the series justice or man up and finish what you started. Their legacy would have been set if they were able to give the show a proper ending instead of rushing it.how would you have them end it then... it would just be like i forget the phrase... but it would just be more of the same, they'd just be milking it. there is no more content in the books to adapt. they could've gone with more episodes but it would just be lingering on and on.
GRRM barely helped with the tv series, it was all d&d and their staff.
GRRM barely helped with the tv series, it was all d&d and their staff.
Literally everything could have been the same. Arya kills NK, Cersie is the final boss, Dany starting to go mad, Jamie going back to KL, 2 dragons dying, etc, If they would have taken the time to write it well. The problem I have is that because of the time constraintthey set for themselves, its ruining the story. Extend season 7 and 8 to 10 episodes each and write the stories ending better.
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We agree herei personally want d&d to put as much effort into adapting the eric nylund halo fall of reach novels. they can do whatever the **** they want after ghost of onyx.
lets be real though. let's say all the asoiaf books were finished. they would have made the best tv series of the century.
lets be real though. let's say all the asoiaf books were finished. they would have made the best tv series of the century.
Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
This is an option as wellIt's already been said many times ITT....
1) Have the NK and his army overwhelm Winterfell and kill about half of the main characters there.
2) Have a couple of eps where the survivors flee to Iron Islands to regroup and then head down south.
3) Have Cersei FINALLY realize the error of her ways and join the fight once the army of the dead surrounds King's Landing (or have Jaime or Tyrion kill her).
4) Massive final battle with all of the survivors vs. the undead army again (with Bran possibly playing a pivotal role in the NK's defeat).
5) Perhaps a final ep where the survivors (if there are any) finally decide who will sit on the Iron Throne (or maybe they just ditch the throne altogether).
How hard was that?
1) Have the NK and his army overwhelm Winterfell and kill about half of the main characters there.
2) Have a couple of eps where the survivors flee to Iron Islands to regroup and then head down south.
3) Have Cersei FINALLY realize the error of her ways and join the fight once the army of the dead surrounds King's Landing (or have Jaime or Tyrion kill her).
4) Massive final battle with all of the survivors vs. the undead army again (with Bran possibly playing a pivotal role in the NK's defeat).
5) Perhaps a final ep where the survivors (if there are any) finally decide who will sit on the Iron Throne (or maybe they just ditch the throne altogether).
How hard was that?
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
I think that HBO gave no fuks about the show quality and just wanted to keep their moneymaker rolling.It's pretty straightforward. d&d showed that they are absolute masters at adaptingalready writtenbook material onto the screen. Nobody is arguing that the adaptation portion isn't a masterpiece. But there's a difference between adapting GRRM's books and then what they did once the books were done
Season 7 should have showed hbo that d&d are nowhere near as good at coming up with their own material.HBO shouldn't have moved forward with d&d for season 8 and the fact that hbo offered additional seasons, d&d declined, and HBO still went with d&d is HBO's fault.
So I still stand by the opinion that HBO is at fault for not dropping d&d for season 8. But on the other hand I don't have suggestions for who they should have used instead as writers. So ultimately it is what it is.
Season 7 should have showed hbo that d&d are nowhere near as good at coming up with their own material.HBO shouldn't have moved forward with d&d for season 8 and the fact that hbo offered additional seasons, d&d declined, and HBO still went with d&d is HBO's fault.
So I still stand by the opinion that HBO is at fault for not dropping d&d for season 8. But on the other hand I don't have suggestions for who they should have used instead as writers. So ultimately it is what it is.
05-12-2019, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
this, in a way D&D wanted to end this on as high a note as they thought they could lolI think that HBO gave no fuks about the show quality and just wanted to keep their moneymaker rolling.
before it got too lame and drawn out. 10 years is a long time.
lol at them saying "it was always gonna be 74 hours" though that was super specific
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
6) Have no one important die but the NK and his armyIt's already been said many times ITT....
1) Have the NK and his army overwhelm Winterfell and kill about half of the main characters there.
2) Have a couple of eps where the survivors flee to Iron Islands to regroup and then head down south.
3) Have Cersei FINALLY realize the error of her ways and join the fight once the army of the dead surrounds King's Landing (or have Jaime or Tyrion kill her).
4) Massive final battle with all of the survivors vs. the undead army again (with Bran possibly playing a pivotal role in the NK's defeat).
5) Perhaps a final ep where the survivors (if there are any) finally decide who will sit on the Iron Throne (or maybe they just ditch the throne altogether).
How hard was that?
1) Have the NK and his army overwhelm Winterfell and kill about half of the main characters there.
2) Have a couple of eps where the survivors flee to Iron Islands to regroup and then head down south.
3) Have Cersei FINALLY realize the error of her ways and join the fight once the army of the dead surrounds King's Landing (or have Jaime or Tyrion kill her).
4) Massive final battle with all of the survivors vs. the undead army again (with Bran possibly playing a pivotal role in the NK's defeat).
5) Perhaps a final ep where the survivors (if there are any) finally decide who will sit on the Iron Throne (or maybe they just ditch the throne altogether).
How hard was that?
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
even better then breaking bad or sopranos?GOT has been rated #1 all time tv show on imdb. Wonder where it ends up after this season.
05-12-2019, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By theACEofSPADES⏩
I’m banking on the ep 6 spoilers being fake. Apparently security around that episode was absolutely ridiculous. Maybe I’m just really hoping they’re fake.So I gave in and read the spoilers on reddit
Spoiler!
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If true, they completely fuked Jaimie's character arc. wtfman
How I kind of hope Jon’s story ends:
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He goes North and is reunited with Ghost. Last shot of the series is Jon discovering wildling body parts arranged in the way the white walkers did it
I can’t remember if I read this in those spoilers or only the “Jon goes North” part and I made up the body parts. Either way I’m sure someone else has already thought of this theory.
Either way it’s interesting because it’s how lord of the rings ended—the main character’s best friend, Sam, gets the girl and knocks her up and the main character leaves to go to another land
I can’t remember if I read this in those spoilers or only the “Jon goes North” part and I made up the body parts. Either way I’m sure someone else has already thought of this theory.
Either way it’s interesting because it’s how lord of the rings ended—the main character’s best friend, Sam, gets the girl and knocks her up and the main character leaves to go to another land
EXPECTATIONS: SUBVERTED
also, someone on reddit was able to recut the Rhaegal death scene completely using the existing footage so that it actually made sense:
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/co...medium=ios_app
And relief washes over me in an awesome wave
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I would love nothing more than some weird **** to happen that somehow brings the white walkers back and they kill all of my favorite characters.
GRRM saga is called “a song of fire and ice” after all, which implies the white walkers are a main focus in this series.
GRRM saga is called “a song of fire and ice” after all, which implies the white walkers are a main focus in this series.
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It's obvious they started to see the backlash build up from season 7 and now they want out as fast as possible so they can leach on to another project before the tsunami hits.
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
Theres a huge problem with that: it requires competent writers to fill in meaningful dialogue over several epsiodes. That is literally beyond the scope of what D&D want to do. They were done with the series many years ago and are 1000% ready to move on to more business deals.It's already been said many times ITT....
1) Have the NK and his army overwhelm Winterfell and kill about half of the main characters there.
2) Have a couple of eps where the survivors flee to Iron Islands to regroup and then head down south.
3) Have Cersei FINALLY realize the error of her ways and join the fight once the army of the dead surrounds King's Landing (or have Jaime or Tyrion kill her).
4) Massive final battle with all of the survivors vs. the undead army again (with Bran possibly playing a pivotal role in the NK's defeat).
5) Perhaps a final ep where the survivors (if there are any) finally decide who will sit on the Iron Throne (or maybe they just ditch the throne altogether).
How hard was that?
1) Have the NK and his army overwhelm Winterfell and kill about half of the main characters there.
2) Have a couple of eps where the survivors flee to Iron Islands to regroup and then head down south.
3) Have Cersei FINALLY realize the error of her ways and join the fight once the army of the dead surrounds King's Landing (or have Jaime or Tyrion kill her).
4) Massive final battle with all of the survivors vs. the undead army again (with Bran possibly playing a pivotal role in the NK's defeat).
5) Perhaps a final ep where the survivors (if there are any) finally decide who will sit on the Iron Throne (or maybe they just ditch the throne altogether).
How hard was that?
If they had good writers and spent more money on writing? Yes this would be a great way to close out the series, even after they butchered it apart. (so basically I agree)
Also don't think it would have to end with a good vs evil battle, but again this is a writing quality issue
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Originally Posted By StillNoLight⏩
yea, breaking bad is #2:even better then breaking bad or sopranos?
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?nu...ype=tv_series&
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Originally Posted By DASBUNKER⏩
It really isn't. Even my mother who doesn't read any chit about the show or anything complains about the same things that everyone else is complaining about.Overall the season is a solid 8.5 for me so far, a few ups and down.
But srsly most complains and essays I've seen people writing are neckbeard level of pettiness.
But srsly most complains and essays I've seen people writing are neckbeard level of pettiness.
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Originally Posted By DASBUNKER⏩
I think you'd basically have to not be watching the episodes as they play to have this kind of opinion, srsOverall the season is a solid 8.5 for me so far, a few ups and down.
But srsly most complains and essays I've seen people writing are neckbeard level of pettiness.
But srsly most complains and essays I've seen people writing are neckbeard level of pettiness.
05-12-2019, 02:52 PM
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How i want the story to end
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Dany gets the iron throne and then starts going crazy, eventually she decides its not want she wants anymore and disappears with jon snow
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Dany gets the iron throne and then starts going crazy, eventually she decides its not want she wants anymore and disappears with jon snow
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Originally Posted By juvefan⏩
Sounds like a horrible love storyHow i want the story to end
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Dany gets the iron throne and then starts going crazy, eventually she decides its not want she wants anymore and disappears with jon snow
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Dany gets the iron throne and then starts going crazy, eventually she decides its not want she wants anymore and disappears with jon snow
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Originally Posted By juvefan⏩
For the record, it wasn’t the hbo video. It was the meme one.Should unlist the whole season
The guy put up an explanation. He actually took it down himself because it got so much attention and he didn’t want it being used so much against D&D.
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Originally Posted By theACEofSPADES⏩
Personal opinion...they wanted to get on to their Star Wars project."73 hours"
How did they arrive at that random number?
How did they arrive at that random number?
The same guys gave us solid stuff whether it was in the books or a variation to it. For the past two seasons, they've just been over it.
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Originally Posted By DASBUNKER⏩
Huh. I see we've found one of the hipsters from the Burlington Bar watch party.Overall the season is a solid 8.5 for me so far, a few ups and down.
But srsly most complains and essays I've seen people writing are neckbeard level of pettiness.
But srsly most complains and essays I've seen people writing are neckbeard level of pettiness.
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I hadn't interpreted that comment as saying Daenarys legit forgot the Iron Fleet existed -- which seems to be the implication people are going for -- it was moreso that the whole Northern army had their blinders on and were entirely focused on the NK while the Southern forces were planning for the final fight. The Northerners had tunnel vision before and after The Battle of Winterfell and weren't thinking about what their Southern enemy would be doing and would be capable of upon their return
Benioff explained the intent badly and that's slightly concerning coming from someone who's writing these episodes, but picking on chit like that is honestly petty. There are enough legitimate issues with Season 8 without picking apart an interview of the writers, as if neckbeards on the internet would do a better job explaining their thought processes in front of a camera for an HBO interview
Benioff explained the intent badly and that's slightly concerning coming from someone who's writing these episodes, but picking on chit like that is honestly petty. There are enough legitimate issues with Season 8 without picking apart an interview of the writers, as if neckbeards on the internet would do a better job explaining their thought processes in front of a camera for an HBO interview
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Originally Posted By ceizer1985⏩
I guess they can't possibly butcher Star Wars worse than what's happened already so they have that going for them.Personal opinion...they wanted to get on to their Star Wars project.
The same guys gave us solid stuff whether it was in the books or a variation to it. For the past two seasons, they've just been over it.
The same guys gave us solid stuff whether it was in the books or a variation to it. For the past two seasons, they've just been over it.
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So, who wants to bet than in order to "subvert expectations" Arya kills the Mountain as well?
Either after he offs the Hound, or by stabbing him while the Hound is facing off against him?
Either after he offs the Hound, or by stabbing him while the Hound is facing off against him?
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Originally Posted By Lollaff⏩
Only explanation is your mom a neckbeard mate.It really isn't. Even my mother who doesn't read any chit about the show or anything complains about the same things that everyone else is complaining about.
Originally Posted By BaySeaAnd⏩
I think you'd basically have to not be watching the episodes as they play to have this kind of opinion, srs
Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
nah I agree with some of the complaints but do they ruin the show for me? not really... still the series is miles ahead of anything else ever seen on TV before..Huh. I see we've found one of the hipsters from the Burlington Bar watch party.
and this is coming from someone whos never satisfied with anything tv/movies/anime wise, Im just gonna enjoy the ride for once.
PS If they show additional dragons or a bigger new dragon in todays episode, I'll chit your pants
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Originally Posted By 2RDEYE⏩
at this point there wasnt more content to adapt but GRRM himself has said it should have been 12 seasons. So i think clearly there was enough content for more seasons.perfect TV adaptation. there is no way they would be able to adapt every single thing in the books 1:1
how would you have them end it then... it would just be like i forget the phrase... but it would just be more of the same, they'd just be milking it. there is no more content in the books to adapt. they could've gone with more episodes but it would just be lingering on and on.
GRRM barely helped with the tv series, it was all d&d and their staff.
how would you have them end it then... it would just be like i forget the phrase... but it would just be more of the same, they'd just be milking it. there is no more content in the books to adapt. they could've gone with more episodes but it would just be lingering on and on.
GRRM barely helped with the tv series, it was all d&d and their staff.
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Originally Posted By DASBUNKER⏩
Yes, wanting semi-decent writing without extremely glaring continuity errors, characters who used to be clever turning to morons,a plot that doesn't disintegrate into a shower of ch*t and piles of plain, dumb chit happening in a show that used to be one of the GOATS is neckbeard. Forget everything that made it good in the first place. Dat thinking stuff is neckbeard and doesn't matter cause it had epic wicked flips n chit. I'm with you brah. This is some good chit like my favourite movie: Fast and Furious 6.Overall the season is a solid 8.5 for me so far, a few ups and down.
But srsly most complains and essays I've seen people writing are neckbeard level of pettiness.
But srsly most complains and essays I've seen people writing are neckbeard level of pettiness.
Ya mouth breather
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
OK, fine. It wasn't extremely retarded and lazy. It was merely very retarded and lazy. I take it backI hadn't interpreted that comment as saying Daenarys legit forgot the Iron Fleet existed -- which seems to be the implication people are going for -- it was moreso that the whole Northern army had their blinders on and were entirely focused on the NK while the Southern forces were planning for the final fight. The Northerners had tunnel vision before and after The Battle of Winterfell and weren't thinking about what their Southern enemy would be doing and would be capable of upon their return
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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩
Yes, wanting semi-decent writing without extremely glaring continuity errors, characters who used to be clever turning to morons and a plot that doesn't disintegrate into a shower of ch*t in a show that used to be one of the GOATS is neckbeard. Forget everything that made it good in the first place. Dat thinking stuff is neckbeard and doesn't matter cause it had epic wicked flips n chit. I'm with you brah. This is some good chit like my favourite movie: Fast and Furious 6.
Ya mouth breather
OK, fine. It wasn't extremely retarded and lazy. It was merely very retarded and lazy. I take it back
Ya mouth breather
OK, fine. It wasn't extremely retarded and lazy. It was merely very retarded and lazy. I take it back
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