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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
leo i really dont want to start treating you like a clueless troll, mainly because you are a regular here and have been around for years but man im struggling right now lol. Just give me a hand here srsVast majority of NFL players are clean.
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Originally Posted By LtGoose⏩
it's because i make the most thought-provoking threadsHow in the fuk is this thread 6 pages now? It's just a photo guise. Cot damn
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03-03-2020, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Madvillainy⏩
You sure rustled a bunch of insecure incelsit's because i make the most thought-provoking threads
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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Originally Posted By menseks⏩
fixed7 page thread talking about how f*cking dumb leofraud is. never change misc. lmao.
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03-03-2020, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
How can you believe that OJ makes things easy to the point where you don't respect people who use it but at the same time think with millions of dollars on the line a bunch of dudes who beat their wives and use recreational drugs would be above using a substance that would give them a performance advantage?
Personal experience.
How can you believe that OJ makes things easy to the point where you don't respect people who use it but at the same time think with millions of dollars on the line a bunch of dudes who beat their wives and use recreational drugs would be above using a substance that would give them a performance advantage?
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03-03-2020, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Do you guys really need me to explain it to you?leo i really dont want to start treating you like a clueless troll, mainly because you are a regular here and have been around for years but man im struggling right now lol. Just give me a hand here srs
Ok NFL players are the greatest athletic specimens on earth.
The vast majority of the members here are bodybuilders and were never top athletes(playing beyond High School)
Soccer doesn't count. Soccer players are not top athletes.
The majority of football players don't look aesthetic. They aren't trained for aesthetics(for example my first 3 years in lifting for football I did maybe 3 sets of curls a year. They are built to perform and have a totality of athletic gifts that other sports don't have.
Bodybuilders aren't top athletes. They might have genetics to look pretty but that's it. And because of this you guys project your limitations on NFL players.
I played with 8 guys that made it to the league. I played with a guy that benched 500 raw natty in HS.
The majority of guys don't need help unless they are old or on the back end of the roster.
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03-03-2020, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
lmaoVast majority of NFL players are clean.
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03-03-2020, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Madvillainy⏩
That guy is giga Chadshe says her old friend chad was in town and thought it would be nice to take a picture for old time's sake


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03-03-2020, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By umadbroski⏩
I'm sorry you think I'm dumb but you're not an American so you have no basis for talking about the NFL. Enjoy your soccer twinks.lmao
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03-03-2020, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Leo, you're just flat out wrong on this dude. Not sure if guys really were natty when you were coming up but they sure as hell aren't anymore.Do you guys really need me to explain it to you?
Ok NFL players are the greatest athletic specimens on earth.
The vast majority of the members here are bodybuilders and were never top athletes(playing beyond High School)
Soccer doesn't count. Soccer players are not top athletes.
The majority of football players don't look aesthetic. They aren't trained for aesthetics(for example my first 3 years in lifting for football I did maybe 3 sets of curls a year. They are built to perform and have a totality of athletic gifts that other sports don't have.
Bodybuilders aren't top athletes. They might have genetics to look pretty but that's it. And because of this you guys project your limitations on NFL players.
I played with 8 guys that made it to the league. I played with a guy that benched 500 raw natty in HS.
The majority of guys don't need help unless they are old or on the back end of the roster.
Ok NFL players are the greatest athletic specimens on earth.
The vast majority of the members here are bodybuilders and were never top athletes(playing beyond High School)
Soccer doesn't count. Soccer players are not top athletes.
The majority of football players don't look aesthetic. They aren't trained for aesthetics(for example my first 3 years in lifting for football I did maybe 3 sets of curls a year. They are built to perform and have a totality of athletic gifts that other sports don't have.
Bodybuilders aren't top athletes. They might have genetics to look pretty but that's it. And because of this you guys project your limitations on NFL players.
I played with 8 guys that made it to the league. I played with a guy that benched 500 raw natty in HS.
The majority of guys don't need help unless they are old or on the back end of the roster.
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03-03-2020, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
NCAA made us piss in cups in front of a judge so with the frequency I peed I don't know how anyone could have gotten away with it. Besides it's not like we would turn in a teammate and risk suspension so there was no reason for guys to hide from us if they were.Leo, you're just flat out wrong on this dude. Not sure if guys really were natty when you were coming up but they sure as hell aren't anymore.
I was accused of using a couple of times not in a mean spirited way but I made a big jump in a 3 month period.
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03-03-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By fcnz32⏩
You questions are meaningless. Why do you want to know my personal opinion about his work ethic or which percentile he is in regarding genetics?LOL now we're getting somewhere even though you still evaded really answering my question. All of you massive coping haters ITT use qualitative words like "good", "bad", "nothing special" etc., but then don't clearly define what those mean. But apparently this whole time we've been comparing this guy to pro BB'ers lmao!
Come on now, you guys aren't trying to discredit him when compared to pro BB'ers. I mean if you are, then what a stupid pointless commentary and just goes to show that you guys will move and set the bar as high as needed just to be able to say something negative about someone to make you feel better about yourself.
And since presumably you're not a pro bb'er then you must be willing to admit he would look WAYYY better than you, all the coping *******s ITT, and obviously the general population, even without the juice. And with this being true why the need to say anything negative or detracting about him in the first place? Cause COPE that's why.
Come on now, you guys aren't trying to discredit him when compared to pro BB'ers. I mean if you are, then what a stupid pointless commentary and just goes to show that you guys will move and set the bar as high as needed just to be able to say something negative about someone to make you feel better about yourself.
And since presumably you're not a pro bb'er then you must be willing to admit he would look WAYYY better than you, all the coping *******s ITT, and obviously the general population, even without the juice. And with this being true why the need to say anything negative or detracting about him in the first place? Cause COPE that's why.
You talking about “evading” is hilarious when the only argument you make is “b-b-but y-you’re not as aesthetic!!”. Got anything besides personal attacks? Lmao
Maybe my wording wasn’t precise. By “pro BB’er” i mean someone who makes his money by bodybuilding/off his body. For instance I would compare him to the YouTuber Mattdoesfitness. Not necessarily Mr. O competitors.
If you are comparing him to the average 2-3 day a week gym goer you’re retarded. If you are comparing him to someone not drinking orange juice you’re also retarded.
I’m 6’ 91 kg at 14 % bodyfat and a life time natural (feels ridiculous even typing that lol). Of course the dude looks better than me... you’re an idiot my guy. Hell, even if I was on the amount of stuff he is on he’d likely still look better than me. Aesthetics/being fit is such a minor part of what I take pride in... it’s basically just a habit/hobby that I enjoy.
In regards to “why say anything negative?” I don’t even know what to say. Such a low IQ statement.
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03-03-2020, 02:05 PM
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Leo isn't entirely wrong about the NFL. There are some legit genetic freaks there who have never taken PEDs in their lives. Think about Mike Tyson, the guy was 200lbs lean at 12 years old. A homeless 12 year old isn't taking PEDs.
03-03-2020, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Thats not it.This is true. The mental gymnastics they go thru to try to make natties feel like we don't work hard enough.
Nah bro if you lifted and watched your diet you'd almost get there.
Nah bro if you lifted and watched your diet you'd almost get there.
You have this viewpoint that the only people choosing to juice are people who want things the easy way.
For some reason you fail to accept the notion that some people worked their ass off as natties, reached a point they were not making gains anymore, and if they worked any harder they would be overtraining, so they made the choice that now after reaching close to a "natural limit" they wanted to work even harder, and recover faster so they could get back in the gym and work out more frequently, more intensely, and with more volume.
You fail to accept that some people on juice work 2-3x as hard as some of the harder working natties because they can and do.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The testing for vitamin T is a joke. It can't be a positive/negative test like drug test because its naturally made in your body. Furthermore, some people are more sensitive to it than others so they can be great athletes with a 400 level and take drugs to bump it up to 1000 but still pass the test. Even using best practices and setting up a baseline T level is useless if you were already on it when the baseline was established. Now days they don't have to pee in front of anyone and fake urine is sold at the drug store. The only testing that can catch people that know what they're doing is Olympic style WADA testing but even they can't test for growth hormoneNCAA made us piss in cups in front of a judge so with the frequency I peed I don't know how anyone could have gotten away with it. Besides it's not like we would turn in a teammate and risk suspension so there was no reason for guys to hide from us if they were.
I was accused of using a couple of times not in a mean spirited way but I made a big jump in a 3 month period.
I was accused of using a couple of times not in a mean spirited way but I made a big jump in a 3 month period.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I guarantee my personal experience of having a grandfather and his brother as lifetime NFL coaches and players is greater than your knowledge. 95% of them were on juice when he retired in the 90s. I am willing to bet the number is much higher now.Personal experience.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
In the 80s vitamin D in the blue ball form was the number 1 thing. Vitamin T wasn't as widespread.The testing for vitamin T is a joke. It can't be a positive/negative test like drug test because its naturally made in your body. Furthermore, some people are more sensitive to it than others so they can be great athletes with a 400 level and take drugs to bump it up to 1000 but still pass the test. Even using best practices and setting up a baseline T level is useless if you were already on it when the baseline was established. Now days they don't have to pee in front of anyone and fake urine is sold at the drug store. The only testing that can catch people that know what they're doing is Olympic style WADA testing but even they can't test for growth hormone
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Originally Posted By Brosnbroccoli⏩
5 paragraphs and still you didnt say ****.You questions are meaningless. Why do you want to know my personal opinion about his work ethic or which percentile he is in regarding genetics?
You talking about “evading” is hilarious when the only argument you make is “b-b-but y-you’re not as aesthetic!!”. Got anything besides personal attacks? Lmao
Maybe my wording wasn’t precise. By “pro BB’er” i mean someone who makes his money by bodybuilding/off his body. For instance I would compare him to the YouTuber Mattdoesfitness. Not necessarily Mr. O competitors.
If you are comparing him to the average 2-3 day a week gym goer you’re retarded. If you are comparing him to someone not drinking orange juice you’re also retarded.
I’m 6’ 91 kg at 14 % bodyfat and a life time natural (feels ridiculous even typing that lol). Of course the dude looks better than me... you’re an idiot my guy. Hell, even if I was on the amount of stuff he is on he’d likely still look better than me. Aesthetics/being fit is such a minor part of what I take pride in... it’s basically just a habit/hobby that I enjoy.
In regards to “why say anything negative?” I don’t even know what to say. Such a low IQ statement.
You talking about “evading” is hilarious when the only argument you make is “b-b-but y-you’re not as aesthetic!!”. Got anything besides personal attacks? Lmao
Maybe my wording wasn’t precise. By “pro BB’er” i mean someone who makes his money by bodybuilding/off his body. For instance I would compare him to the YouTuber Mattdoesfitness. Not necessarily Mr. O competitors.
If you are comparing him to the average 2-3 day a week gym goer you’re retarded. If you are comparing him to someone not drinking orange juice you’re also retarded.
I’m 6’ 91 kg at 14 % bodyfat and a life time natural (feels ridiculous even typing that lol). Of course the dude looks better than me... you’re an idiot my guy. Hell, even if I was on the amount of stuff he is on he’d likely still look better than me. Aesthetics/being fit is such a minor part of what I take pride in... it’s basically just a habit/hobby that I enjoy.
In regards to “why say anything negative?” I don’t even know what to say. Such a low IQ statement.
Compare that guy to other juicers and he falls on top 99.99% of the time. You want to find some competition for him then you have to look at IFBB competitions where the best pros compete at, and only then will you find better (and way older) physiques, and again, we are talking about people that think and do everything on their life revolve around fitness, 24/7. Dudes that wake up at 3 am to get an extra meal, or drink in a piss cup at night to save precious minutes of recovery while sleeping.
Comparing that guy to anybody on the misc is retarded, juice or no juice. Saying that guy is a cheater or isnt impressive for the simple fact that he uses steroids is also retarded, since he is better than the vast majority of juicers.
He is genetically gifted, and thats a given. Aesthetics wise, he is as good as anybody. On size he isnt, but then again i really doubt thats his goal. On top of that he has a Chad face and is clearly very tall, which im guessing is what has all of you no-avis so rustled.
He has absolutely everything, both the things that are on his control and the things that arent are maxed out, dude is winning at life clearly, and that makes you feel bad for whatever reason.
Would he be famous without gear? Nope. Would he be famous without perfect diet and strict training regimen? Nope. Would he be famous if he wasnt as lucky with his genetics or that good looking face? Nope.
Hes the whole package bro and deal with it.
Inb4 i get called a homo. Literally would rather be a flaming homosexual, than be a delusional insecure copebro, 100% srs. Call me gay 100 times before you tell me im coping or living in a different reality srs
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Originally Posted By Brosnbroccoli⏩
You are really dense, "my guy". Why am i asking your opinion in order to show you that you have a contradictory and thus stupid opinion? Let's try this format:You questions are meaningless.Why do you want to know my personal opinion about his work ethic or which percentile he is in regarding genetics?
You talking about “evading” is hilarious when the only argument you make is “b-b-but y-you’re not as aesthetic!!”. Got anything besides personal attacks? Lmao
Maybe my wording wasn’t precise. By “pro BB’er” i mean someone who makes his money by bodybuilding/off his body. For instance I would compare him to the YouTuber Mattdoesfitness. Not necessarily Mr. O competitors.
If you are comparing him to the average 2-3 day a week gym goer you’re retarded. If you are comparing him to someone not drinking orange juice you’re also retarded.
I’m 6’ 91 kg at 14 % bodyfat and a life time natural (feels ridiculous even typing that lol). Of course the dude looks better than me... you’re an idiot my guy. Hell, even if I was on the amount of stuff he is on he’d likely still look better than me. Aesthetics/being fit is such a minor part of what I take pride in... it’s basically just a habit/hobby that I enjoy.
In regards to “why say anything negative?” I don’t even know what to say. Such a low IQ statement.
You talking about “evading” is hilarious when the only argument you make is “b-b-but y-you’re not as aesthetic!!”. Got anything besides personal attacks? Lmao
Maybe my wording wasn’t precise. By “pro BB’er” i mean someone who makes his money by bodybuilding/off his body. For instance I would compare him to the YouTuber Mattdoesfitness. Not necessarily Mr. O competitors.
If you are comparing him to the average 2-3 day a week gym goer you’re retarded. If you are comparing him to someone not drinking orange juice you’re also retarded.
I’m 6’ 91 kg at 14 % bodyfat and a life time natural (feels ridiculous even typing that lol). Of course the dude looks better than me... you’re an idiot my guy. Hell, even if I was on the amount of stuff he is on he’d likely still look better than me. Aesthetics/being fit is such a minor part of what I take pride in... it’s basically just a habit/hobby that I enjoy.
In regards to “why say anything negative?” I don’t even know what to say. Such a low IQ statement.
your opinion: high percentile genetics and work ethic (waiting for you to confirm with numbers...)
also your opinion: "nothing special"
Pick one.
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Originally Posted By fcnz32⏩
Nothing special compared to the ton of people who have great genetics, great work ethtic and ride their bicycle to work. I’ve already said this.You are really dense, "my guy". Why am i asking your opinion in order to show you that you have a contradictory and thus stupid opinion? Let's try this format:
your opinion: high percentile genetics and work ethic (waiting for you to confirm with numbers...)
also your opinion: "nothing special"
Pick one.
your opinion: high percentile genetics and work ethic (waiting for you to confirm with numbers...)
also your opinion: "nothing special"
Pick one.
His genetics and work ethic means fuk all when so many other people got that.
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Originally Posted By menseks⏩
Dude's like a 9/10 minimum in looks, while she's like a 6/10. He could do waaay better...if we're going off looks, but by the looks of it, she also just looks like any other sloot, so yeah I'm still gonna say he could do better.7 page thread talking about how good looking this guy is. never change misc. lmao.
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