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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
Day one chest prioritizes chest lifts. Day two chest prioritizes shoulders. So bench/flyes etc, first, then OHP, side laterals second on day 1. But day 2 you flip that on it's head and now you're OHPing as the strength lift then doing side laterals before you're hitting bench and other chest liftsNot sure exactly what you mean here brah, care to elaborate?
07-17-2020, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Gotcha. Yeah I already do something similar. My first push day is all horizontal pressing for main lifts (flat bench/close grip board press/earthquake bar press) and my second push day has incline and push presses for main movements right now. Rear/side delts get at least a little love at the end of every push and pull day.Day one chest prioritizes chest lifts. Day two chest prioritizes shoulders. So bench/flyes etc, first, then OHP, side laterals second on day 1. But day 2 you flip that on it's head and now you're OHPing as the strength lift then doing side laterals before you're hitting bench and other chest lifts
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07-17-2020, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Don't let one bad experience get u down. It's not how u fall, it's how u get back up. Just gotta keep trying until u get it right. But I can understanding having some downtime to get ur head together, but don't spend too long dwellingAlready done all that, tried the girl thing, her mother got cancer and went back to her country so that put me off abit. Mates from work dont go out when I do because we are on different shifts since im contracted to this club so I cant deviate.
Look Im open to change if you rhink I should change my program then by all means im open to advice, Ill admit it, im not experienced, not a professional but so far this has been working for me, mentally and physically. Reason I do 6 days is because after work, I gk to the gym behind my club for 45 to 50 minutes, go home, game abit and go to bed.
Look Im open to change if you rhink I should change my program then by all means im open to advice, Ill admit it, im not experienced, not a professional but so far this has been working for me, mentally and physically. Reason I do 6 days is because after work, I gk to the gym behind my club for 45 to 50 minutes, go home, game abit and go to bed.
I'd rather spend time fixing social life srs. Join more activities, go to some kind of fun event etc. Living for the gym ain't it mane, especially being a natty that yields no real benefit. Time to change dat dere structure and make new goals
As far as program I'd just do full body 3x a week but when it comes to the gym I don't take it that serious, just enough to look good
07-17-2020, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli⏩
I get where you're coming from mate. I'll see what I can do and change around.Don't let one bad experience get u down. It's not how u fall, it's how u get back up. Just gotta keep trying until u get it right. But I can understanding having some downtime to get ur head together, but don't spend too long dwelling
I'd rather spend time fixing social life srs. Join more activities, go to some kind of fun event etc. Living for the gym ain't it mane, especially being a natty that yields no real benefit. Time to change dat dere structure and make new goals
I'd rather spend time fixing social life srs. Join more activities, go to some kind of fun event etc. Living for the gym ain't it mane, especially being a natty that yields no real benefit. Time to change dat dere structure and make new goals
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07-17-2020, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
I've lived in a different city and went out by myself to cinema, concerts etc. I did meet people this way. Just something to consider. If you go out With the mindset you CAN'T meet people randomly, then you probably won't. Be more positive and it will show.I get where you're coming from mate. I'll see what I can do and change around.
Just make a bit of small talk with some people and see where it goes. Dress nice, look approachable etc
07-17-2020, 10:50 AM
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I didn't read all 7 pages but if someone enjoys working out and bring active what else could they do that's gonna be more productive? 6 days a week could mean 3 lifting and 3 cardio/sports, which means they invest in their health and that's never time wasted. Besides lifting for 4-5 hours per week and cardio/sports for another 4 doesn't add up to much, it can serve to set your day up positively or to blow off stress after work.
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07-17-2020, 10:50 AM
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07-17-2020, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli⏩
Lmao so to just come to this conclusion, why couldn't you just PM me and such rofl, why go through all the effort of callouts and all the other dumb chit. I'm not an arrogant idiot, I can take criticism and accept advice if I feel I need it and in this case, sure, could use another change in life and perhaps an alternative route but your delivery is what you need to work on.I've lived in a different city and went out by myself to cinema, concerts etc. I did meet people this way. Just something to consider. If you go out With the mindset you CAN'T meet people randomly, then you probably won't. Be more positive and it will show.
Just make a bit of small talk with some people and see where it goes. Dress nice, look approachable etc
Just make a bit of small talk with some people and see where it goes. Dress nice, look approachable etc
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07-17-2020, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
A lot of bodybuilders (we are talking about bodybuilding here) workout 6 days a week. Some less.Pro athletes might practice or cardio every day but they don’t lift every day.
And I think college football players only lift 4 days actually. Brb will confirm.
And I think college football players only lift 4 days actually. Brb will confirm.
And some NFL teams train 2x a day (cardio, tatics, weight...)
So whats your point?
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
I like to troll, but I do get srs sometimes and give advice where its needed or where I can offer valuable input.Lmao so to just come to this conclusion, why couldn't you just PM me and such rofl, why go through all the effort of callouts and all the other dumb chit. I'm not an arrogant idiot, I can take criticism and accept advice if I feel I need it.
Don't take this as a sign that we're friends now, but i just felt that had to be said and I genuinely mean it
07-17-2020, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli⏩
I dont care about having friends on an internet forum, like I said, im not an arrogant idiot and when I see the need to change then I take the necessary steps and sometimes need a revelation for it.I like to troll, but I do get srs sometimes and give advice where its needed or where I can offer valuable input.
Don't take this as a sign that we're friends now, but i just felt that had to be said and I genuinely mean it
Don't take this as a sign that we're friends now, but i just felt that had to be said and I genuinely mean it
But like I said deliver is and was your problem, you tried giving advice through an alternative persona. In the perspective of others, why would they give a ahit what you have to say in a serious notion when you hide behind someone else
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07-17-2020, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
They aren't natty, and they do it for a living, we are just average people that should focus our time elsewhereA lot of bodybuilders (we are talking about bodybuilding here) workout 6 days a week. Some less.
So whats your point?
So whats your point?
07-17-2020, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli⏩
Check out some natty bodybuilder's routines (Pro atheles from NGA or WNBF or some **** like that)...They aren't natty, and they do it for a living, we are just average people that should focus our time elsewhere
Volume plays a huge role in hypertrophy. Doesn't matter if you are natty or not.
Muscle size goes hand to hand with muscle performance. When you increase your weekly volume you are demanding more performance, and this triggers muscle adaptations.
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
fair point, pretty much tainted my credibility with that ordeal, but I'm the real deal. And I respect that ur able to take valid cricism and change when neccessary, das it.I dont care about having friends on an internet forum, like I said, im not an arrogant idiot and when I see the need to change then I take the necessary steps and sometimes need a revelation for it.
But like I said deliver is and was your problem, you tried giving advice through an alternative persona. In the perspective of others, why would they give a ahit what you have to say in a serious notion when you hide behind someone else
But like I said deliver is and was your problem, you tried giving advice through an alternative persona. In the perspective of others, why would they give a ahit what you have to say in a serious notion when you hide behind someone else
07-17-2020, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
Not gonna lie, there are so many fake natties that I don't pay attention to "natural" bodybuilding because it's like trying to find a needle in a Hay stack. I know legit natural bodybuilders nationally in my country because I know them personally, but outside of that I don't know many.Check out some natty bodybuilder's routines (Pro atheles from NGA or WNBF or some **** like that)...
Volume plays a huge role in hypertrophy. Doesn't matter if you are natty or not.
Volume plays a huge role in hypertrophy. Doesn't matter if you are natty or not.
07-17-2020, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Lol... "rest" doesn't mean "off", if you workout legs you are resting the upper body.The point is a rest day is MORE productive than a 6th/7th lifting day.
Because your muscles grow during rest. Plus rest prevents injuries and tendinitis etc.
Rest is not neutral. It’s beneficial.
Because your muscles grow during rest. Plus rest prevents injuries and tendinitis etc.
Rest is not neutral. It’s beneficial.
And working out can actually be benefical in the recovery process. Have you ever heard about regenerative workouts!?
07-17-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
mostly wrong with this statementLol... "rest" doesn't mean "off", if you workout legs you are resting the upper body.
And working out can actually be benefical in the recovery process. Have you ever heard about regenerative workouts!?
And working out can actually be benefical in the recovery process. Have you ever heard about regenerative workouts!?
Your CNS needs rest, your body needs rest to partition nutrients throughout the whole body for a day not just the area you worked out, theres many systems at work besides just that muscle group worked that day.
Your statement on volume is also completely bro science. Volume increases in reps and sets does not lead to more hypertrophy, and this has been proven time and time again. Volume will only increase conditioning and getting a pump, it will not stimulate hypertrophy anymore than doing a 6-10 sets total for a muscle group to true failure. The only volume that matters is progressive overload with mechanical tension increasing, tension being the key word.
Its a quality game not quantity.
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07-17-2020, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
Older I get the more I realize this. Made the best bench gains of my life doing it once per week.Figured out pretty quick you don't have to spend 6 days(likely 10+ hours per week) to make progress even as a natural
3 day split crew netted the same results
It's supposed to be one small hobby, not your life. Lol @ spending more than 45 minutes lifting on a given day, srs
3 day split crew netted the same results
It's supposed to be one small hobby, not your life. Lol @ spending more than 45 minutes lifting on a given day, srs
That being said, cardio is different, and I think doing it everyday has benefits
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Originally Posted By Cass40⏩
Not true. Tons of gymcels coming out of the woodwork ITT.Sheesh we know already all this..
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Agree with everything, being a natty it's all about progressive overload. I find doing too much volume is detrimental to progressionmostly wrong with this statement
Your CNS needs rest, your body needs rest to partition nutrients throughout the whole body for a day not just the area you worked out, theres many systems at work besides just that muscle group worked that day.
Your statement on volume is also completely bro science. Volume increases in reps and sets does not lead to more hypertrophy, and this has been proven time and time again. Volume will only increase conditioning and getting a pump, it will not stimulate hypertrophy anymore than doing a 6-10 sets total for a muscle group to true failure. The only volume that matters is progressive overload with mechanical tension increasing, tension being the key word.
Its a quality game not quantity.
Your CNS needs rest, your body needs rest to partition nutrients throughout the whole body for a day not just the area you worked out, theres many systems at work besides just that muscle group worked that day.
Your statement on volume is also completely bro science. Volume increases in reps and sets does not lead to more hypertrophy, and this has been proven time and time again. Volume will only increase conditioning and getting a pump, it will not stimulate hypertrophy anymore than doing a 6-10 sets total for a muscle group to true failure. The only volume that matters is progressive overload with mechanical tension increasing, tension being the key word.
Its a quality game not quantity.
07-17-2020, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Dutchaveli⏩
So in let's say a 4 day UL split, would that be enough to mainly focus up on progress overkoad? Main problem before was caloric intake daily but that got fixed a couple weeks back and before it caused my strength to fluctuateAgree with everything, being a natty it's all about progressive overload. I find doing too much volume is detrimental to progression
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Originally Posted By wd0694820⏩
you need to acquire more delts and it'll help your physique alot.I train 6 days a week and my physique is orettt mediocre
07-17-2020, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By wd0694820⏩
if u read the thread we've already discussed at how more days in the gym/more volume does not yield more hypertrophy and gains.I have to train a lot because I have bad genetics and want my body to be perfect
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