Again, it's very difficult to wager how I may feel and act in totally hypothetical situations. I don't know if it would change my outlook, or to what degree.Nice try FBI.



The answer is no, BTW.

I'm just highlighting that your logic is wrong imo. The reason you aren't getting laid isn't because you aren't attractive.

I think it's probably the opposite. From your appearance you may be too masculine for most girls to pursue you. If you were a skinny emo they might, but for you, girls likely expect you to do the legwork. If you don't pursue them, they'll assume you aren't interested.

My suggestion is to seek the help of a good MALE therapist and to prioritise this. Sex is not a big deal, but there are other joys in life you may regret missing out on later. You're not too young to have relationships and start a family.

OP do you consider it linked that you have no close friends and never had a girlfriend?

There is definitely a correlation between being inexperienced with females and never having had any real, close social circle past primary school. Often 30+ virgins have very few or no friends. The two things tend to go hand-in-hand. Not always, but an awful lot of the time.

OP, you're an Anglo-Saxon White male...... Have you ever considered going to Japan or South Korea and finding a waifu? You'd be worshiped like a demigod and you'll be helping Japan and SK's population implosion problem.


ded srs, not a troll post. It's time to consider Japan and SK....

self inflicted/sabotage

Well if those are actually pictures of you, I can assure you your looks are not a problem whatsoever.

Try the apps again, I think that’s the best bet. Just get a friend to take normal looking pictures or literally use the timer function and put your phone on a tripod.

On bumble they have to message you first, you have nothing to lose.

bro 99% of people basically have no friends past 30. the friends they did have now have families. there's no time for friends.

No he wouldn’t u monkey. JFC misc iq just gets lower and lower over time

Your graph doesn’t show that though. The men are defining themselves as not looking.

It seems to be only a big problem for 65+

whats your favorite podcast? i saw a pretty good one recently with post malones

maybe he have luck in toilet?

Exactly what a serial killer would say. We're onto you.

OP what would do if a 9/10 wanted a one night nonsense tinder bang? She sorts everything, you just got to be there. You are 100% sure it’s not a scam.

Would you go for it or decline?

OP were you a late bloomer that grew up with low self esteem? I'm sort of like that and it's very hard to let go of that mentality that you carried through the first 22 or something years of your life. It really stays with you forever and your brain just wants to avoid girls if they gave you a hard time growing up, like calling you ugly or laughing at you etc.

I have put myself out there a lot and have overcome most of it but again it's like your default state and it will always be imprinted in you. The one thing that really saved me was going into a pretty alpha industry (construction) where I was mocked by my bosses and coworkers for not getting laid and I had to really come out of my introverted shell for work purposes. It sort of rewired my brain but it was tough. Since Covid I switched industries and have been working from home in isolation like you said you do, I also haven't gotten laid in 2 years since then. I think you needed someone to get you to come out of your shell and push you, but if you were that good looking all your life I see why maybe nobody thought to do it.

B..BINGO!

Like I said incels are just autists and barely have any friends if at all. And guess what? Easiest way BY FAR to get a girlfriend is trough social circle, you wonder how that ugly dude got his hot GF? 9/10 times was trough social circle.

That would sound like a trap...a 9/10 just giving it away and doing all the work. However, even with that offer of sex with a 9/10, I don't know if I would want a meaningless one-nighter with someone who was basically a stranger.

Yes to the first paragraph. I was never popular with girls at all in my childhood and adolescence, and that just carried on into adulthood. Any attempts to try and familiarize myself with them have always felt like trying to ice-skate uphill.

lol at the novel you left in my cp

if you were banned, post the message you got from the mods at the time. April 2019 if you need reminding. You lying toad

OP conveniently ignored my post:

OP you're an Anglo-Saxon White male... at anytime you can go to Japan or South Korea and you'll be worshipped like a demigod.

I can understand ethnics being incels, but a White technically cannot be incel, he's a volcel aka "voluntarily celibate"...

Voluntarily Celibate = wanting to be celibate or being too lazy to go out and get po0n...


Look at the way these women gawk at a White man...

Apols if I ignored you post. There have been a lot of Qs asked.

I think that white's being 'worshipped' in the Far East is an extreme exaggeration. If that particular girl looked at that particular man, it's because he was some kind of stripper working at an event. They would not pay that kind of attention to the average white guy in the street.

I am not incel, but ANY race can be incel. Whites do not get a pass. If you are in a nation which is say 95% white, then it looses any benefit.

I barely keep in touch with any of my friends and I still bang girls regularly. I consider myself pretty avg looking apart from my physique (6'0 and 190~200 lb), and I still have quite a bit of success on dating apps (I slay much more irl approaching girls on the street, bars, clubs, etc). Do you get no matches on dating apps?

Op looked above average looks in 1st pic someone posted, well above average in 2nd pic.

Hnnng (no homo, I'm a female).

Its not looks.

It's got to be some combo of obliviousness, auti-ness, disengagement/lack of engagement, coming across as disinterested/indifferent ... I dunno.

Yes, it is hard to meet people of the opposite sex after mid to late 20s ... People settling down, singles getting fewer and fewer, coupledom taking over, but op actually has the looks to do ok on OLD and should do ok in any social/hobby environment if he meets single females. He must be ****ing up in some way (coming across as indifferent?) in interactions.

You don't have like a Mickey mouse voice or anything, op? No offence.
I mean I know guys with mm voices and they've still got partners.

It's significant that op says he's not really got close friends and has been a bit of a loner since primary school. He seems socially detached, if that's the right word, to quite an extent - and that's extended to romantic relationships.

How about some new hobbies with females participating op, preferably social ones. My sister is in a running club, seems quite mixed male/female wise (maybe more females), they do a bit of socialising. And you immediately have training etc. in common.

I'll try to think of other possible hobbies & sports.

Just to add; your looks are such, especially with you looking like you are a gym goer and v well groomed etc. that an "average" woman might actually be intimidated and think you'd only go out with gym bunny, glamorous type women. If you appear indifferent/ambivalent that might make them think "he's not interested, I'm not -whatever- enough for him, I'm not his type".

Just to chime in on the Asia thing ...unless things have changed a lot since I was in Japan (which was quite a while ago admittedly), it definitely was the case that guys who had (through looks, personality, whatever) never had girlfriends or had had very limited opportunities, hooked up with Japanese girls quickly and easily. They definitely were sought after; hunted would not be an exaggeration.

And the more traditionally good looking guys were knee deep in Japanese women (or something else deep in them).

These guys were all TEFL teaching, and they got lots of opportunities through the schools, (adult) students and receptionists.
(These were private language schools with mostly kid students and the rest mostly women).

But they also met Japanese girls in English and Irish pubs and any event type thing for foreigners .. because lots of Japanese women were going to them to try to meet foreigners.

You'd have to really make use of your time if you went there on holiday for example, as opposed to having loads of time while working there ... But it wouldn't be very hard. They are very much looking for foreign men and obviously it's way easier to keep in touch now. You could even search/form connections online before meeting there (or here if they were willing to travel).

(Actually, thinking about your job, the ME might be a place where you could possibly get work and there would be a lot of opportunities with Asian women.
(There also seemed to be a good number of single ex pat European women, lots of men there are already coupled up or have partners at home. The social scene for ex pat's in *****, Qatar etc is not huge so you'd meet people repeatedly at the hotels everyone goes to, the events everyone goes to, the Irish bars etc..
If you've lived in the same place for 10 years with no change in your eg dating/social life, perhaps a change of location would be a good thing. You could rent your house out).

Why do you and those like you keep polluting message boards designed for regular people?

Why can't you loser incels keep to yourselves?

No one cares.

Set him up on a date with one of your single friends

I don't know what region op lives in.

I'm in N.I. now and I know one single woman here but she's 10 yrs older than him and slightly bat****.

I do know a single Japanese girl who's a sweetheart but she's 6 yrs older, and in Japan.


Anyway, if someone with op's looks and circumstances is not pulling on OLD or elsewhere, there is more than just an introduction needed. He needs counselling/coaching/help to work this out.

OP are you even interested in breaking the virgin streak anymore? You seem to have accepted being FA as your fate, however I wondered if a set of circumstances came up and the right girl was there and willing whether you’d even go for it anymore.