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post 1677806673 02-23-2023, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
As many have already asked... What specific regulations did Trump remove that directly led to this incident? If it was such a horrible decision, why hasn't Biden restored those regulations during the past two years, certainly at the urging of his absent Secretary of Transportation?
and will they restore them now?
or just continue to blame trump while they are the only one's with the power to do anything?
post 1677807743 02-23-2023, 04:48 PM
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Whatever happened to the classified docs he "stole"?? They find the nooks yet?
post 1677807883 02-23-2023, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
Whatever happened to the classified docs he "stole"?? They find the nooks yet?
TwO mOrE wEeKs!!!!
post 1677809453 02-23-2023, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
As many have already asked... What specific regulations did Trump remove that directly led to this incident? If it was such a horrible decision, why hasn't Biden restored those regulations during the past two years, certainly at the urging of his absent Secretary of Transportation?
In December 2015, President Barack Obama signed the Fixing America's Surface Transportation (FAST) Act into law following a number of high-profile train derailments in the U.S. and Canada.

The FAST Act included a provision that ordered the Government Accountability Office (GAO) and other researchers to review the ECP brake rule following complaints from railroad companies and lobbyists, including the Association of American Railroads.

The GAO report found flaws in the DOT’s estimates of potential business benefits of the ECP brakes, including reduced fuel consumption, reduced wear on wheels, and improved operational efficiencies. After the GAO released its findings, the DOT performed a revised cost-benefit analysis, which determined the benefits of ECP brakes did not outweigh the cost of implementing them. On Sept. 25, 2018, the DOT issued a final rule to remove the ECP brake rule from the FAST Act.

A few months after the repeal, the Associated Press released a study that found that the DOT’s analysis omitted up to $117 million in estimated future damages from train derailments that could be avoided by using electronic brakes.

As a result of the AP study, the DOT issued a technical correction in January 2019 but maintained the costs exceeded the benefits of the ECP brake rule, according to the Harvard University Environmental & Energy Law Program.
https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...1-7dc6e0a9f09f

One of those fact check sites but the links to source documents all check out.
post 1677809913 02-23-2023, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
So it's all unfolding now..

Trump overheated the wheel bearing with a blowtorch causing the train to derail, which then spewed toxic chemicals into the town's air and water. He also KNEW that Biden was busy giving out more free money in Ukraine and wouldn't give two fux about the good people of some small town in America's Heartland, right?

So he then brings water and food to the good people of America's Heartland - much to the delight of those poor desperate people and patriots everywhere, while reminding the entire world that their very own president did not give two fux about them!

Pretty god damn genius if you ask me! The man is playing 3D underwater chess!
Nobody can match his political instincts. He's Batman...
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post 1677809943 02-23-2023, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...1-7dc6e0a9f09f

One of those fact check sites but the links to source documents all check out.
Nutsy specifically asked what regulations did Trump remove that directly led to this incident.

However, per the Chair of the NTSB, the deregulation had no impact on this specific incident.

Sorry buddy boy, you can't blame Trump. All you are doing is spreading misinformation.

Read below.
Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
False




post 1677810573 02-23-2023, 05:41 PM
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The same low IQ people who constantly cried about misinformation now spread misinformation. SAD! But the way of the liberal "male".
post 1677810633 02-23-2023, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...1-7dc6e0a9f09f

One of those fact check sites but the links to source documents all check out.
Damn bro. Your own link above also includes all of Jennifer Homendy's tweets that gachase21 already posted for us. Did you even read the entirety of your own article?

In an email, an NTSB spokesperson told VERIFY the train involved in the Ohio derailment was not equipped with ECP brakes. On Feb. 16, NTSB chair Jennifer Homendy addressed misinformation spreading about the derailment on Twitter.

Homendy directly acknowledged that the ECP brake rule would not have prevented the crash if implemented because the train that derailed in East Palestine was a mixed freight train that contained only three placarded Class 3 flammable liquids cars. Homendy said the ECP braking rule would have applied only to high-hazard flammable trains.

“This means even if the rule had gone into effect, this train wouldn't have had ECP brakes,” Homendy said.
post 1677810893 02-23-2023, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Nutsy specifically asked what regulations did Trump remove that directly led to this incident.

However, per the Chair of the NTSB, the deregulation had no impact on this specific incident.

Sorry buddy boy, you can't blame Trump. All you are doing is spreading misinformation.

Read below.
Read what I posted. I figured you could figure out I was showing Trump didn't remove regulations leading to this accident without being spoon fed the Cliff notes.

Why do I always feel I'm posting in a third world special needs class.
post 1677811103 02-23-2023, 05:50 PM
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Man when are they going to name a combo after him already
Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.

"Dig with your hands, not with your mouths"

Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.
post 1677811253 02-23-2023, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Damn bro. Your own link above also includes all of Jennifer Homendy's tweets that gachase21 already posted for us. Did you even read the entirety of your own article?
So you commented a minute ago about me "blaming Trump" without reading my post or the article.

Good job dumfuk.
post 1677811353 02-23-2023, 05:54 PM
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can anyone tell me if this is true??

a buddy said Obama put a law in place that prevented toxic trains to drive through cities like east palastine and trump repealed all
of it when he got into office.

if this is true my mind is blown into oblivion
post 1677811393 02-23-2023, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted By KT667⏩
can anyone tell me if this is true??

a buddy said Obama put a law in place that prevented toxic trains to drive through cities like east palastine and trump repealed all
of it when he got into office.

if this is true my mind is blown into oblivion
The explanation is just a couple posts up. Try reading.
post 1677811753 02-23-2023, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By goody1⏩
The explanation is just a couple posts up. Try reading.
ok got it, so it wouldnt have affected it.

still nutty, derailments like this can happan at anytime and anywhere. shouldnt remove security measures imo
post 1677811773 02-23-2023, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Read what I posted. I figured you could figure out I was showing Trump didn't remove regulations leading to this accident without being spoon fed the Cliff notes.

Why do I always feel I'm posting in a third world special needs class.
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
So you commented a minute ago about me "blaming Trump" without reading my post or the article.

Good job dumfuk.
Nice try, dipshіt. Nutsy asked you what specific Trump deregulation led to this incident, and the snippet you quoted showed regulations being rolled back on Trump's watch.

LOL@ trying to pull a fast one because you didn't read the entire articleyouposted.



post 1677812163 02-23-2023, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Nice try, dipshіt. Nutsy asked you what specific Trump deregulation led to this incident, and the snippet you quoted showed regulations being rolled back on Trump's watch.

LOL@ trying to pull a fast one because you didn't read the entire articleyouposted.
The snippet showed that the ECP brake stipulation was rolled back by the DOT according to the law.

I didn't mention Trump at all. That's all on you homie.


As a kicker, you splerged out your "misinformation" tripe before even reading the article and then agreeing with it.

Don't let it bother you though, we all make mistakes.
post 1677812233 02-23-2023, 06:10 PM
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Joy sure did not approve of Trump visiting Ohio. Goodness gracious.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joy-be...-who-you-voted
Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
post 1677812623 02-23-2023, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
The snippet showed that the ECP brake stipulation was rolled back by the DOT according to the law.

I didn't mention Trump at all. That's all on you homie.


As a kicker, you splerged out your "misinformation" tripe before even reading the article and then agreeing with it.

Don't let it bother you though, we all make mistakes.
The secretary of DOT is a cabinet-level position appointed by whomever is the current president.

The only implication your snippet made was that the Trump's DOT deregulated the ECP brake rule (which of course had no impact on this incident).

You clearly didn't finish reading the rest of your article.


LOL @ trying to pull a fast one.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
You're kinda missing one piece of your puzzle there Crocodile Dundee. Here, let me help you...

- Train wreck
- Chemical spill
- Town polluted
- Water not safe to drink
- Us government does...?????

- Trump brings water
- Liberals queef

Now fill in the blank. Did Trump maybe by any chance do something that the govtshould have donethree weeks ago?
You must have missed in the other thread where I soundly criticised the Feds for not getting off their arses and sending help sooner....
My personal pronouns are: Don't talk to me/Fck off
post 1677813103 02-23-2023, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
The secretary of DOT is a cabinet-level position appointed by whomever is the current president.

The only implication your snippet made was that the Trump's DOT deregulated the ECP brake rule (which of course had no impact on this incident).

You clearly didn't finish reading the rest of your article.


LOL @ trying to pull a fast one.
You need to take a break from politics for a while, it's rotting your brain.


There were no implications in my post whatsoever. I was posting straight facts, supported with source documents via links in the article, to effectively settle Nutsy's question to another poster.

No tweets or gay memes. Just some quoted text and an article that seemed to be clear and concise and worth posting.
post 1677815013 02-23-2023, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
You need to take a break from politics for a while, it's rotting your brain.


There were no implications in my post whatsoever. I was posting straight facts, supported with source documents via links in the article, to effectively settle Nutsy's question to another poster.

No tweets or gay memes. Just some quoted text and an article that seemed to be clear and concise and worth posting.
If you wanted to make it abundantly clear that Trump's deregulation had nothing to do with this incident, you would have posted what I quoted (again, see below), instead of what you quoted. But you didn't, because you didn't finish reading the article.
In an email, an NTSB spokesperson told VERIFY the train involved in the Ohio derailment was not equipped with ECP brakes. On Feb. 16, NTSB chair Jennifer Homendy addressed misinformation spreading about the derailment on Twitter.

Homendy directly acknowledged that the ECP brake rule would not have prevented the crash if implemented because the train that derailed in East Palestine was a mixed freight train that contained only three placarded Class 3 flammable liquids cars. Homendy said the ECP braking rule would have applied only to high-hazard flammable trains.

“This means even if the rule had gone into effect, this train wouldn't have had ECP brakes,” Homendy said.
You're not fooling anyone, Seatard.


And LOL @ this:
No tweetsor gay memes.
Your article literally included the tweets from the Chair of the NTSB, something you would have known, had you read the rest of the article.
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Originally Posted By KT667⏩
can anyone tell me if this is true??

a buddy said Obama put a law in place that prevented toxic trains to drive through cities like east palastine and trump repealed all
of it when he got into office.

if this is true my mind is blown into oblivion
You do realize that the logistics of that are 100% impossible right?
post 1677815893 02-23-2023, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
If you wanted to make it abundantly clear that Trump's deregulation had nothing to do with this incident, you would have posted what I quoted (again, see below), instead of what you quoted. But you didn't, because you didn't finish reading the article.





You're not fooling anyone, Seatard.


And LOL @ this:




Your article literally included the tweets from the Chair of the NTSB, something you would have known, had you read the rest of the article.
You argue like a woman, even in agreement you just keep bitching about agreeing the wrong way.
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just when i thought Trump couldnt get any more presidential, this mf goes and does this.

TRUMP 2024
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
You argue like a woman, even in agreement you just keep bitching about agreeing the wrong way.
That was honestly one of the worst walk-back attempts I've ever seen. You thought you were slick.

You agree with me now, after you got BTFO.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
That was honestly one of the worst walk-back attempts I've ever seen. You thought you were slick.

You agree with me now, after you got BTFO.
Lolz, I agreed with you from the beginning you dumb kunt.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Lolz, I agreed with you from the beginning you dumb kunt.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
You argue like a woman, even in agreement you just keep bitching about agreeing the wrong way.
Did you just assume his gender bro? That has me triggered and now I'm going to contact your party elders to have you canceled...
Hey Timmy, show us on the boy doll where the tampon goes...
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...1-7dc6e0a9f09f

One of those fact check sites but the links to source documents all check out.
And...?

How would ECP brakes have prevented an overheated axle which fell apart? Once again, why haven't Biden or Buttigieg done anything about it for the past two years?
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Read what I posted. I figured you could figure out I was showing Trump didn't remove regulations leading to this accident without being spoon fed the Cliff notes.

Why do I always feel I'm posting in a third world special needs class.
Because you're giving yourself FAR too much credit. And because you're confusing smug liberal arrogance with actual intelligence.

Case in point are these Ohio train wreck discussions. You've spent over a week now defending and making excuses for your president not seeming to GAF about a toxic chemical spill - nor do YOU give a shiit. Animals dying, dead fish floating up, water unsafe to drink, and zero 'tard fux given.

But you're an environmentalist though!
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Have those contaminated waterways been attributed to the train derailment? Are people drinking or bathing in them? Serious questions because both state and federal officials are saying things are safe. There are no shortages of private labs to verify the government though, so hopefully they are utilized and we don't base everything on tweets or go through this whole thing of "trusting the science" again.

I'm a bit of environmentalist myself, and I'd love to see all these creeks in industrial areas cleaned up. For years the EPA has been chit on for overreaching though. It's not going to happen overnightbut lets go hard after anyone polluting our natural resources.
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