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post 1686927863 07-21-2023, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
When that happens people seem to be accused of back pedaling or back tracking. Mistakes and errors are seemingly bad and unforgivable.

Perhaps that's why some folks never state a position or opinion. Can't be mistaken or incorrect if you never say anything.
So.........can you find an example of an "expert" admitting they were wrong?
post 1686928043 07-21-2023, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Dave why do you resort to things that have literally nothing to do with what we're talking about? It doesn't matter what I believe.. or what I said. None of that matters. What matters is that YOU thought/think you know more than the experts and, of course, you were wrong.

Now do beat cops change their beliefs when presented with new evidence or do they just call everyone "pets" and stick to their preconceived beliefs?.... (don't reply, it's sarcasm. I know you can't tell)
Have any of these so called "experts" admitted to being wrong? The vaccine offering 100% protection, wear a mask outdoors, wear two masks, wear goggles, the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated, etc......
post 1686928343 07-21-2023, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Why would someone wear a mask while sleeping and who made that recommendation?
Wearing a face mask while sleeping will interfere with your sleep because difficulty breathing makes it harder to fall asleep.

But you said the mask has no effect on breathing???
post 1686928433 07-21-2023, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So.........can you find an example of an "expert" admitting they were wrong?
Yep
post 1686928593 07-21-2023, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Wearing a face mask while sleeping will interfere with your sleep because difficulty breathing makes it harder to fall asleep.

But you said the mask has no effect on breathing???
Who recommended masking while sleeping?
post 1686928673 07-21-2023, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Riiiiiight Benny, clearly the lockdowns worked, and masks worked.......especially since the majority of the world's population got the Rona more than once.

And we also know that you want everyone to forget how pathetic you acted during all of this. "I want this to be over, I have Covid Fatigue, you're breaking the law when you violate the mandates, people need to take Omicron seriously!!!!"
And despite that i never got it, wow, superior genetics or smart behaviors?
This is coming from brain fog, long covid Dave and his list of brain issues.
Enjoy your blood clots over time sick guy.
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
post 1686928713 07-21-2023, 12:34 PM
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Still not a single example of someone from the medical community saying "sorry, we didn't know any better".
post 1686928943 07-21-2023, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
And despite that i never got it, wow, superior genetics or smart behaviors?
This is coming from brain fog, long covid Dave and his list of brain issues.
Enjoy your blood clots over time sick guy.
Anecdotal evidence is shunned upon, unless it supports the narrative you follow?

So let's see...

Half a dozen countries, numerous flights, and being in the center of multiple active outbreaks, all prior to the vaccine even being available - and I never got it.

I guess it's superior genetics at this point, since I didn't huddle in my basement, or send sick relatives to isolate in the garage.
post 1686929463 07-21-2023, 11:42 AM
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I’m an epidemiologist. Here’s what I got wrong about covid.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...elf-criticism/
post 1686929533 07-21-2023, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I’m an epidemiologist. Here’s what I got wrong about covid.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...elf-criticism/
What is she in charge of, again?

Also, please point out where she apologized.
post 1686929753 07-21-2023, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
What is she in charge of, again?
Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Show me just one example of someone from the medical community saying "sorry, we didn't know any better".
Sorry. You weren't clear about needing an example of someone "in charge" of something or even who or what you consider to be the "medical community".
post 1686929813 07-21-2023, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
And despite that i never got it, wow, superior genetics or smart behaviors?
This is coming from brain fog, long covid Dave and his list of brain issues.
Enjoy your blood clots over time sick guy.
Wow, congratulations, you lived like a freak with OCD, only going out for errands, and you never got it......

And I'm sure the blood clots would have showed up by now.
post 1686929833 07-21-2023, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Sorry. You weren't clear about needing an example of someone "in charge" of something or even who or what you consider to be the "medical community".
Please point out where she said "sorry".



Edit : And here we go:

"Reflecting on the past year, I would like to think the mistakes I made were honest ones, understandable errors caused by a lack of information. But not all the mistakes made during this pandemic can be described that way. Time after time, we’ve seen states and localities lifting coronavirus restrictions too soon and triggering new waves of cases, failing to learn from experience. We’ve also seen people protesting face-mask mandates — long after the efficacy of masks was clear — by gathering in large, noisy crowds, a setting with a high risk of coronavirus transmission. The worst mistakes of the pandemic, it seems clear, have come from political leaders flouting the advice of epidemiologists, not from errors made by scientists."

Yup, entire article is just a bunch of excuses and fingerpointing, as expected.

So please, provide a single example of someone from the medical community saying "sorry, we didn't know any better".
post 1686930033 07-21-2023, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Please point out where she said "sorry".

Oh. She didn't.

I probably can't find someone meeting your unidentified criteria saying those exact words.

You win
post 1686930123 07-21-2023, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Oh. She didn't.

I probably can't find someone meeting your unidentified criteria saying those exact words.

You win
There we go.

Thanks for conceding, yet again.

Edit : I would also like to point out, the article was published in April of 2021... yet she is talking about mistakes that she realized more than a year prior.

That's not good enough - nowhere near good enough.
post 1686930653 07-21-2023, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
There we go.

Thanks for conceding, yet again.

Edit : I would also like to point out, the article was published in April of 2021... yet she is talking about mistakes that she realized more than a year prior.

That's not good enough - nowhere near good enough.
I don't imagine anything would be.
post 1686930923 07-21-2023, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I don't imagine anything would be.
The public's complete loss of trust in the medical community is not my fault - that's on you and people like you.
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Here's a doctor, in charge, apologizing.

Might not be the exact right words tho

“The pain of losing a child is terrible enough without having that loss compounded by a public debate about the circumstances,” Hinshaw said. “I’m sorry if the way I spoke about that death made your grief worse.”

https://nationalpost.com/news/dr-dee...die-from-covid
post 1686930983 07-21-2023, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
The public's complete loss of trust in the medical community is not my fault - that's on you and people like you.
Dunno what I have to do with it, but I agree trust is lost and will take concerted effort to regain.
post 1686931263 07-21-2023, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Here's a doctor, in charge, apologizing.

Might not be the exact right words tho

“The pain of losing a child is terrible enough without having that loss compounded by a public debate about the circumstances,” Hinshaw said. “I’m sorry if the way I spoke about that death made your grief worse.”

https://nationalpost.com/news/dr-dee...die-from-covid
Apologized, after getting caught spreading misinformation. Not for "not knowing any better".

Not good enough - not nearly good enough.
post 1686931523 07-21-2023, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Dunno what I have to do with it, but I agree trust is lost and will take concerted effort to regain.
If you are spreading misinformation and disinformation on the misc, you're probably doing it elsewhere as well.

Fudging numbers, posting fake data, flat out lying, the list goes on and on.
post 1686931983 07-21-2023, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Apologized, after getting caught spreading misinformation. Not for "not knowing any better".

Not good enough - not nearly good enough.
Yeah, I figured.
post 1686932053 07-21-2023, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
If you are spreading misinformation and disinformation on the misc, you're probably doing it elsewhere as well.

Fudging numbers, posting fake data, flat out lying, the list goes on and on.
That's an opinion you're not afraid to share
post 1686932083 07-21-2023, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yeah, I figured.
Would she be apologizing if they did not get caught?

Probably not.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That's an opinion you're not afraid to share
Those were your actions - I cannot be held responsible for them.

Maybe if you didn't take those actions, you would not be called out for them.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Those were your actions - I cannot be held responsible for them.

Maybe if you didn't take those actions, you would not be called out for them.
Maybe.

Like I said it's an opinion you aren't afraid to share.

I imagine levying general accusations of disinformation and misinformation feels safer than stating what you feel is disinformation or misinformation.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Maybe.

Like I said it's an opinion you aren't afraid to share.

I imagine levying general accusations of disinformation and misinformation feels safer than stating what you feel is disinformation or misinformation.
Fudging numbers by two decimal points in the direction of the narrative you support - misinformation and disinformation
Stating that unvaccinated people are barred from getting tested in beaverland - misinformation and disinformation
Claiming that you select the lot number from a drop down menu on the physical label of the individual syringe - misinformation and disinformation

Want me to keep going?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Fudging numbers by two decimal points in the direction of the narrative you support - misinformation and disinformation
Stating that unvaccinated people are barred from getting tested in beaverland - misinformation and disinformation
Claiming that you select the lot number from a drop down menu on the physical label of the individual syringe - misinformation and disinformation

Want me to keep going?
Making things up, attributing those made up things to me, with low likelihood of anybody caring enough to check, is certainly a technique that can be employed. Dunno why one would, but if you find it entertaining, there's nothing to stop you from having your fun
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Making things up, attributing those made up things to me, with low likelihood of anybody caring enough to check, is certainly a technique that can be employed. Dunno why one would, but if you find it entertaining, there's nothing to stop you from having your fun
You admitted to the first one just a couple days ago, and apologized ( or claimed that you did already ).

You want to keep going down the list? Sure, let's do it:

Are you claiming that you never implied that unvaccinated people were barred from getting tested in beaverland?

Yes or no answer please.
post 1686935263 07-21-2023, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You admitted to the first one just a couple days ago, and apologized ( or claimed that you did already ).

You want to keep going down the list? Sure, let's do it:

Are you claiming that you never implied that unvaccinated people were barred from getting tested in beaverland?

Yes or no answer please.
We just have different styles of discussion. Probably not all that compatible.

I don't mind taking the risk of stating my positions and opinions on topics. I don't feel I need the distance or safety that can be achieved by going after people who have different views or opinions, rather than the stated views or opinions. I'm okay discussing views, positions opinions, and topics directly.

Different strokes for different folks

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