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Thread: Chris Hayes Show Last Night - Explains Trumpers in a Nutshell

post 1690425753 09-21-2023, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
I don't see a problem making the call that this smells of chit just given the age of the claims and the political motivations of the people making the claims.
I did not think it passed the smell test, either.

My criticism, it was against people who were not just saying this seemed like a hit, but those who demanded it was. We didn't know. Now, we do - it was. We still do not know for sure why, but again the smell test seems to be that the "Trumpers" and people Chris Hayes, and others who follow him, the people they were teeth-gnashing about -- well, looks like they were probably right. Whether Brand is or isn't a grifter or not, his newfound position of harshly criticizing powerful entities, it seems the most likely reason why this powerful UK government official targeted him and almost assuredly goes well beyond one single little person writing a letter.

And, some people lack the morals and integrity in this situation to be objective. It's hard for them. The people they sneer at, look down on as rednecks and disgusting, people they consider themselves better than -- what do you do when they jumped the gun but were ultimately correct and you were wrong? Do you acknowledge this and grow from it and become a better person... OR do you become even more nasty and hateful and double down on your now-known incorrect stance?
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Hundreds of people being solicited to make claims against him 10-20 years after any event took place is obviously a hit.

Now that doesn't necessarily mean he isn't guilty of the allegations. By most accounts he stepped well outside of socially acceptable boundaries when choosing partners and doing drugs with them (shocker).

Of all the claims only 1 involved anything potentially illegal. (Outside the drugs). Every other claim just showed he wasn't good person.

I don't see a problem making the call that this smells of chit just given the age of the claims and the political motivations of the people making the claims.
It's one thing to say this smells like chit.. it's another to fully jump to the conclusion "they" are out to get him just because one person wrote a letter asking for demonetization and they said no and that was the end of that.

That's not "doing your resurch", that's jumping to conclusions.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
1. No he was NOT in the public spotlight. No one had a clue who he was before he got nominated for the SC.

2. Not true.

3. Not true.

4. People who are easily conned always react this way - complete denial. I mean who looks in the mirror and says you know what.. I might be getting conned here. If so, that would make me look like a complete idiot. Nah... can't be. And yet here we are with and entire third of the country (minimum) buying into proven lies and bullchit peddled by people like Russell Brand, Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Alex Jones, and on and on and on and on....

And for the record, your boy Trump said Ford was a very credible witness. I thought so too. But feel free to provide any LEGIT evidence or new info that Rapey Brett didn't do what she claimed (since we're not a court of law and don't have the burden of proof).
I dont really care what Trump or anyone else thinks about someone when it comes to the law. If youre going to try to ruin someones life, you need evidence.

You said that Kavanaugh tried to rape Ford and failed, with zero evidence. Which is back to the main point which you fail to address in everyones post: Why cant you at least be understanding of the position that if you'd like to report a crime it should be done as soon as possible. Whether he was in the spotlight or not has absolutely ZERO bearing on the event, the longer you wait to report a crime the less likely it is to be true. That's the reason for the skepticism, NOT saying its untrue.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
If that's true then I agree with Joe on both points. Biological males should not be competing with biological females regardless of their current test levels. And no kid should ever be put on puberty blockers until they make the decision for themselves when they become an adult.

So much for Pat being pro-tranny everything..
And when states made that a reality, you accused those states of making it illegal to be a tranny......
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
I dont really care what Trump or anyone else thinks about someone when it comes to the law. If youre going to try to ruin someones life, you need evidence.

You said that Kavanaugh tried to rape Ford and failed, with zero evidence. Which is back to the main point which you fail to address in everyones post: Why cant you at least be understanding of the position that if you'd like to report a crime it should be done as soon as possible. Whether he was in the spotlight or not has absolutely ZERO bearing on the event, the longer you wait to report a crime the less likely it is to be true. That's the reason for the skepticism, NOT saying its untrue.
And if you're going to sexually assault someone and ruin their life, all you have to do is be bigger and stronger than them..

And yes, Ford testified under oath it happened. Trump said she was extremely credible. What happens if you lie under oath? Clearly better than someone simply saying they didn't do it - like Trump did and is now paying after his court case.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
And when states made that a reality, you accused those states of making it illegal to be a tranny......
Cmon Dave, if you're going to make claims like that you need to post links to my posts. Otherwise it's just you making stuff up... a growing problem around here it seems.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
And if you're going to sexually assault someone and ruin their life, all you have to do is be bigger and stronger than them..

And yes, Ford testified under oath it happened. Trump said she was extremely credible. What happens if you lie under oath? Clearly better than someone simply saying they didn't do it - like Trump did and is now paying after his court case.
Tara Reade filed an actual police report and she claims that Biden did penetrate her with his fingers. Do you believe her as well?
Why do you not refer to Biden as Rapist Biden?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
And if you're going to sexually assault someone and ruin their life, all you have to do is be bigger and stronger than them..
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
And yes, Ford testified under oath it happened. Trump said she was extremely credible.What happens if you lie under oath? Clearly better than someone simply saying they didn't do it - like Trump did and is now paying after his court case.
Doesn't matter what Trump said Pat. Because......


Evidence doesn't support claims against Kavanaugh, Judiciary Committee questioner says

"I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the committee," Rachel Mitchell writes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...ecutor-n915236
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Funny how most of these allegations are 15-20 years old

Funny how NONE of them came out during the METOO movement.. you know that movement.. which had almost every women alive coming out from every hole claiming they had been abused at some point

Funny how after Russel Brand has been bashing covid/govt/Big Pharma/War for 2 years on his youtube channel.. that these allegations somehow materialize

Also if you watched the video which details these accusations.. its clear reporters went LOOKING FOR women abused by Brand.. around a year or so ago.. the women for the most part didn't come forward themselves

And lets play devils advocate and say he's guilty (they will never prove anything).. then this was covered up when he was a raging leftist (he still is btw) and only comes out now after he's bashed the establishment for the past 2 years

You can think he's guilty or not.. its still a hit job
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
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Just keep rocking back and forth and walking on your tip toes Mr Stimmy.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Just keep rocking back and forth and walking on your tip toes Mr Stimmy.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
That accomplishes several things though 'tard..

1. Repeatedly asking you all the same thing exposes your unwillingness to answer - ie your tranny and drag freaks "performing" for children and your president groping a little girl

2. Which only proves me right.

And...

3. Watching you all Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and. Dodge and make counter-accusations in order to deflect, amuses the living shiit out of me.
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post 1690428833 09-21-2023, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Snootz⏩
Funny how most of these allegations are 15-20 years old

Funny how NONE of them came out during the METOO movement.. you know that movement.. which had almost every women alive coming out from every hole claiming they had been abused at some point

Funny how after Russel Brand has been bashing covid/govt/Big Pharma/War for 2 years on his youtube channel.. that these allegations somehow materialize

Also if you watched the video which details these accusations.. its clear reporters went LOOKING FOR women abused by Brand.. around a year or so ago.. the women for the most part didn't come forward themselves

And lets play devils advocate and say he's guilty (they will never prove anything).. then this was covered up when he was a raging leftist (he still is btw) and only comes out now after he's bashed the establishment for the past 2 years

You can think he's guilty or not.. its still a hit job
Yes generally speaking reporters investigate allegations of wrongdoing. That's how the press works. But to you and others, it's a hit piece by... "them" to get him just because he politically aligns with the CTers. It's proof he's "telling the truth". Why else would "they" be trying to cancel him right? Must be. Couldn't possibly be that he sexually assaulted multiple women (and at least one child). No "they" are out to get him.

Oh, and asking a platform to demonetize someone under investigation so they can't monetize from it is no different than not letting mass murders write books and profit from them etc.
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Still confused why RAPEPYPat supports a rapey president, Uncle Joe. RAPEYPat, why won't you disavow your president after he sexually assaulted and tried to rape Tara Reade?
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
I dont really care what Trump or anyone else thinks about someone when it comes to the law. If youre going to try to ruin someones life, you need evidence.

You said that Kavanaugh tried to rape Ford and failed, with zero evidence. Which is back to the main point which you fail to address in everyones post: Why cant you at least be understanding of the position that if you'd like to report a crime it should be done as soon as possible. Whether he was in the spotlight or not has absolutely ZERO bearing on the event, the longer you wait to report a crime the less likely it is to be true. That's the reason for the skepticism, NOT saying its untrue.
Go ask Danny Masterson if his court case showed evidence. Hell write to him if you want, he's got 30 years to write back..

We will see the evidence when RB goes on trial. This thread isn't actually about his innocence or guilt though, as I've said countless times ITT. This thread is about how the right all came to defend him regardless This thread is about how a huge percentage of the right wants to believe con men like RB, Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, Roe Rogan, Alex Jones, etc. And how those people monetize from their intentional lies and misinformation.



Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
Still confused why RAPEPYPat supports a rapey president, Uncle Joe. RAPEYPat, why won't you disavow your president after he sexually assaulted and tried to rape Tara Reade?
When's the court case? I look forward to seeing and hearing the evidence.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
When's the court case? I look forward to seeing and hearing the evidence.
What evidence did Ford show?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Cmon Dave, if you're going to make claims like that you need to post links to my posts. Otherwise it's just you making stuff up... a growing problem around here it seems.
Sure Patty, you've made many ridiculous claims over the years, and when called out, you just deny, deny, deny......
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Can leftists explain their hatred towards Joe Rogan? Guy literally had Bernie Sanders on his podcast and endorsed him. He had Andrew Yang on his podcast.

But because he questioned the Covid narrative, you all went nuts and tried to cancel him, bringing up any kind of dirt to bring him down.

"Look, fifteen years ago he dropped an N-bomb......"
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Can leftists explain their hatred towards Joe Rogan? Guy literally had Bernie Sanders on his podcast and endorsed him. He had Andrew Yang on his podcast.

But because he questioned the Covid narrative,you all went nuts and tried to cancel him, bringing up any kind of dirt to bring him down.

"Look, fifteen years ago he dropped an N-bomb......"
That's exactly what it was - that and he took Ivermectin.

Libs with throw TF down with anybody who takes Ivermectin!
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Go ask Danny Masterson if his court case showed evidence. Hell write to him if you want, he's got 30 years to write back..

We will see the evidence when RB goes on trial. This thread isn't actually about his innocence or guilt though, as I've said countless times ITT. This thread is about how the right all came to defend him regardless This thread is about how a huge percentage of the right wants to believe con men like RB, Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, Roe Rogan, Alex Jones, etc. And how those people monetize from their intentional lies and misinformation.


When's the court case? I look forward to seeing and hearing the evidence.
"Anyone who questions my personally approved sources of information is a crazy MAGA Conspiracy Theory cultist"

Patty, yet again, demonstrating that total lack of self awareness.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
"Anyone who questions my personally approved sources of information is a crazy MAGA Conspiracy Theory cultist"

Patty, yet again, demonstrating that total lack of self awareness.
Except I didn't say that - you did - about me.

Now what were you saying about self awareness?
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All you've got to ask yourself is if Brand was still toeing the line (i.e supporting trannies, open borders, covid vaccines, Ukraine), would one of the biggest channels/news stations in the UK conduct a massive investigation into his past out of nowhere and contact hundreds of women he had sex with over the last 20 years in hope that they were willing to make allegations? Then, without a single shred of actual evidence, create a 90 minute documentary and air it multiple nights in a row?



Then we had an MP sending letters to social media companies trying to get Brand demonetized despite there being no actual evidence or even charges against him. I'm sure the fact she is married to a guy who was head of a shadowy organization that censored posts on social media during the pandemic for the British government is a huge coincidence.

All just totally normal things, rightPPedoPat?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Sure Patty, you've made many ridiculous claims over the years, and when called out, you just deny, deny, deny......
Nah. Just you guys claiming stuff about left leaning posters with zero proof because you just know they said it before.

Dave, for a cop, your memory is trash. Maybe think about wasting money on Prevagen?... seems to be popular with the hoax crowd.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Except I didn't say that - you did - about me.

Now what were you saying about self awareness?
lmao, that's the entire essence of this thread. Don't be such a dishonest coward that you can't at least be honest about it, just because you didn't explicitly say those exact words verbatim.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
lmao, that's the entire essence of this thread. Don't be such a dishonest coward that you can't at least be honest about it, just because you didn't explicitly say those exact words verbatim.
I have already explained what the purpose of this thread is over and over, and it's not what you claimed it was.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
All you've got to ask yourself is if Brand was still toeing the line (i.e supporting trannies, open borders, covid vaccines, Ukraine), would one of the biggest channels/news stations in the UK conduct a massive investigation into his past out of nowhere and contact hundreds of women he had sex with over the last 20 years in hope that they were willing to make allegations? Then, without a single shred of actual evidence, create a 90 minute documentary and air it multiple nights in a row?



Then we had an MP sending letters to social media companies trying to get Brand demonetized despite there being no actual evidence or even charges against him. I'm sure the fact she is married to a guy who was head of a shadowy organization that censored posts on social media during the pandemic for the British government is a huge coincidence.

All just totally normal things, rightPPedoPat?
It's ironic (and I was unaware of any document on the BBC about this) but at this point -- the preponderance of the evidence leans heavily towards the people Hayes was winging about having had the correct take all along.

Which is kind of sad -- what Hayes was upset about ("Trumpes" clinging to a narrative) is what we're now seeing. This notion to instantly discredit a letter from a prominent member of the UK Parliament to deplatform Brand being "oh just one little piece of tiny evidence" -- how is that any different than some circumstance where some "Trumper" jumps to conclusions that in theory this thread is about? I don't see anyone from that part of the isle acknowledging the tides have turned with the new information coming out (which, props to Rumble - we would not have known for sure what is going on w/out their letter. One speaking about the entirety of the British Parliament, not just one so-called isolated person).

Some people seem more concerned with addressing people insulting them rather than the topic though, I guess. That or addressing this person and being pretty liberal with the insults as they make a point, which I don't see as helpful. Giving some people an out to ignore their questionable tactics in this thread when you insult them, they immediately just ignore actual points to fire back.

One note on the BBC, that is Government controlled as well - so just one more little piece of evidence if they are also running hit pieces on Brand.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
"Anyone who questions my personally approved sources of information is a crazy MAGA Conspiracy Theory cultist"

Patty, yet again, demonstrating that total lack of self awareness.
NY "Why would your question statements made by political opponents" Patty has no self-awareness.

He isn't even able to step back from the Kav allegations. It is as simple as it being true if it is bad about people I don't like.

It is why I blocked him years ago. No point conversing with people that don't have thought consistency.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
NY "Why would your question statements made by political opponents" Patty has no self-awareness.

He isn't even able to step back from the Kav allegations. It is as simple as it being true if it is bad about people I don't like.

It is why I blocked him years ago. No point conversing with people that don't have thought consistency.
Just make things up about people we disagree with and then "block" them and presto!

And lol at claiming "it is as simple as it being true if it's bad about people I don't like." What you meant to say wasyouautomatically believe somethingisn'ttrue if it's bad about people you do like... see how that works?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
When's the court case? I look forward to seeing and hearing the evidence.
No need for evidence. Ford had zero evidence. We just need to #BelieveAllWomen. Just ask Emmett Till.
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
No need for evidence. Ford had zero evidence. We just need to #BelieveAllWomen. Just ask Emmett Till.
This.

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reminder that diabetic pat with ZERO evidence was calling brett kavanaugh, rapey brett.


you should all continue to chit on diabetic pat here. only a matter of time before the diabetes finally gets him...terrible a tragedy!
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