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post 1619635401 10-17-2020, 01:23 PM
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Went to the range today and the Gen 5 17s are legit lasers. Even with stock sights I was shooting insane groups. Warren sights are on already though.
post 1619639051 10-17-2020, 02:14 PM
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Sup crew

Have a question about armor/plate carriers and LPVOs

So I got my AR500 plates finally after a 14 week wait time. The turn time on the plate carrier I wanted (Banshee Elite 2.0) kept getting delayed by another vendor and so I cancelled it.

Now I need a plate carrier and everyone's out of stock except AR500. They have the Testudo and Veritas carriers. What's everyone's thoughts on these? Are they decent or no? And if anyone knows of any better in stock carriers, please do suggest.

Second about LPVOs... Based on my research, the Vortex 1-6x is the best LPVO under $1500. Is there another option I should consider? To those who have experience with both, how does an LPVO compare to a red dot (like comp m5) + magnifier combo

Thanks,
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Went to the range today and the Gen 5 17s are legit lasers. Even with stock sights I was shooting insane groups. Warren sights are on already though.
when u buying one of THESE, Shrek Mphee?

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post 1619639491 10-17-2020, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted By dawktwenty⏩
Best modern day 9mm PCC that isn't like $3k?
I can't speak for long term reliability
/durability but PSA's AR9 is a sweet shooter and under $1,000.
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Did you go full AR after being a commie overlord for years?
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post 1619639961 10-17-2020, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By MoeBettuh⏩
Did you go full AR after being a commie overlord for years?
Yup. I drank the capitalist Kool Aid.

The AR is superior to the AK is every way, especially with the availability of 300 Blackout.

I'm not dogmatic about guns, gear or even ideas. If I see that something works better, I'll switch sides on it on the spot.

My parents were full blown party Communists too when Tito was still alive and before we came to the US. (real tea) Now my father is DJT's #1 fan lol.
post 1619640591 10-17-2020, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Igmann⏩
Yup. I drank the capitalist Kool Aid.

The AR is superior to the AK is every way, especially with the availability of 300 Blackout.

I'm not dogmatic about guns, gear or even ideas. If I see that something works better, I'll switch sides on it on the spot.

My parents were full blown party Communists too when Tito was still alive and before we came to the US. (real tea) Now my father is DJT's #1 fan lol.
A thing of beauty.
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post 1619644971 10-17-2020, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By MoeBettuh⏩
A thing of beauty.
I want one of them new kalash USA AK's that are coming out. dont even own one AK crew. but the thought of shooting 20 CPR steel case junk actual RIFLE ammo all day long and having no issue is ****ing awesome.

the smart ones were the ones putting down 10,000 rounds of that wolf steel 7.62 for about a few thousand grand
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post 1619645311 10-17-2020, 03:34 PM
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Are ak’s more reliable than ar’s
post 1619646001 10-17-2020, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
Well, got it; in love already. And before you say the Magpul is ugly, I have some PSA Red Wood furniture coming in a few days, and some 30 round steel magazines (and some BS CA compliance stuff too). Ukranian gun but Russian Vodka just felt right with it, going to run around the house with the dog while drunk and screaming in a terrible Russian accent and clearing rooms.

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I have combined cheap ammo, ergonomics and obscene decibels all in one small, 7.62x39 package. It feels like I’ve done a bad thing. But, this pistol sure does shoot!
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
Are ak’s more reliable than ar’s
I think that depends. I had a Romanian sar3 that was a jammomatic and keyholed targets at 50 yards. I’ve also had maybe a half dozen ar15 jams since I bought my first Colt years ago. I’ve never had my sar1 jam.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
Are ak’s more reliable than ar’s
dry fired tim kennedys favorite FN 509T model at the LGS today and that is one of the worst current gen production triggers on the market

think justin gaethje would KO him for it?
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post 1619651711 10-17-2020, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
when u buying one of THESE, Shrek Mphee?

Probably never. I’d like a full size VP9 or one of the 5” ones though. But I shoot glocks so good and I’m so comfortable with them doesn’t make much sense to get all different kinds of guns other then for collecting.

I handled a Glock P80 today. Those are pretty neat. Otherwise they didn’t have much. They got a Daniel Defense V11 in a couple days ago. They were trying to get me to buy it but $1650 eh. Maybe if it was a V7.
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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Niiice

Headed to the range soon myself.
awesome dude.

maybe its just because this set up is new, but i cant get over how aesthetic it is. i really do need to upgrade the trigger though, and also try some different brands of .308 ammo.

i feel like the groups im getting are just not nearly as tight as they should be.
Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
Are ak’s more reliable than ar’s
my opinion is that its a complicated answer. maybe its true the the AK can handle neglect better than an AR can over a long period of time, but the ARs design tends to keep dirt out of it moreso than the AK.

I think it would be most accurate to say both are very reliable designs, but they both need to be kept clean and oiled in order to guarantee 100% reliability.

but on a side note, i feel the AR15 is a better design. its lighter, more ergonomic, and magazine swaps are much faster. the stock sights are a little bit better and follow up shots are easier with 5.56 than 7.62x39
Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
I want one of them new kalash USA AK's that are coming out. dont even own one AK crew. but the thought of shooting 20 CPR steel case junk actual RIFLE ammo all day long and having no issue is ****ing awesome.

the smart ones were the ones putting down 10,000 rounds of that wolf steel 7.62 for about a few thousand grand
you should buy an AK, they are great rifles. no collection is complete without at least a couple of them
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post 1619664921 10-17-2020, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
Are ak’s more reliable than ar’s
If civilization was ending in complete chaos, I think I would want an AK. Assuming I had the ammo.

The AR is a better performing rifle all around. By a lot. The after market options in the US for the AR are incomparable to any other firearm.
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
awesome dude.

maybe its just because this set up is new, but i cant get over how aesthetic it is. i really do need to upgrade the trigger though, and also try some different brands of .308 ammo.

i feel like the groups im getting are just not nearly as tight as they should be.
Better trigger and practice should do it.
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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Better trigger and practice should do it.
i agree, but i also suspect that this cheap pmc .308 isnt the best load for the Aero M5. it does seem to be more accurate in my SCAR though.
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Police rip Biden's repeated advice to shoot suspects 'in the leg'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pol...cts-in-the-leg

Law enforcement groups blasted Vice President Joe Biden for again suggesting training police to shoot suspects "in the leg" is a viable way to avoid fatalities, decrying the proposal as dangerous and ignorant.

During an ABC News town hall Thursday, Biden gave the shooting advice while talking about broader police reforms, which have been on the public conscience since the killing of George Floyd sparked nationwide racial unrest.

"There's a lot of things we've learned and it takes time, but we can do this," Biden said. "You can ban chokeholds ... you have to teach people how to de-escalate circumstances. ... Instead of anybody coming at you and the first thing you do is shoot to kill, you shoot them in the leg."

Police officers and law enforcement groups pounced on the suggestion that officers would train to shoot someone in the leg rather than "center mass," the largest part of the body that has long been the firearms training target.
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
i agree, but i also suspect that this cheap pmc .308 isnt the best load for the Aero M5. it does seem to be more accurate in my SCAR though.
Need good ammo to shoot small groups, but I’m sure you know that
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Originally Posted By OfficerJimLahey⏩
Police rip Biden's repeated advice to shoot suspects 'in the leg'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pol...cts-in-the-leg

Law enforcement groups blasted Vice President Joe Biden for again suggesting training police to shoot suspects "in the leg" is a viable way to avoid fatalities, decrying the proposal as dangerous and ignorant.

During an ABC News town hall Thursday, Biden gave the shooting advice while talking about broader police reforms, which have been on the public conscience since the killing of George Floyd sparked nationwide racial unrest.

"There's a lot of things we've learned and it takes time, but we can do this," Biden said. "You can ban chokeholds ... you have to teach people how to de-escalate circumstances. ... Instead of anybody coming at you and the first thing you do is shoot to kill, you shoot them in the leg."

Police officers and law enforcement groups pounced on the suggestion that officers would train to shoot someone in the leg rather than "center mass," the largest part of the body that has long been the firearms training target.
I hope Sleepy Joe relayed this info to his Secret Service detail
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Need good ammo to shoot small groups, but I’m sure you know that
Well, he doesn't shoot, so probably not
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
Are ak’s more reliable than ar’s
Over the short term? Maybe, if you're talking mean rounds fired without cleaning / without malfunction. If you're talking the lifespan of the weapon, it's not even close. AKs beat themselves to death sooner than ARs and are more difficult from a logistics perspective. You can change out your AR barrel with a vice...not quite as easy with an AK.

It's good to have one for training but they're very much inferior.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Went to the range today and the Gen 5 17s are legit lasers. Even with stock sights I was shooting insane groups. Warren sights are on already though.
With just a flat trigger shoe, my 34 is basically just as accurate as my CZ Tactical Sport (for me).
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
4ea really hurt my feelings
let it out bruh
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Need good ammo to shoot small groups, but I’m sure you know that
true, i need higher quality ammo than this cheap bulk pack pmc im working with. i do have a couple hundred rounds of american eagle but its burried somewhere in my ammo cans. il have to get another case or two, but i have to wait for awhile, been buying entirely way too much gun purchases lately
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I don’t believe current ARs are any less reliable than AKs. IIRC, there was a study done a couple of years ago that detailed that current AR rifles proved more reliable.
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Originally Posted By MoeBettuh⏩
I don’t believe current ARs are any less reliable than AKs. IIRC, there was a study done a couple of years ago that detailed that current AR rifles proved more reliable.
I think the actually argument is "AK's are more reliable if you never, ever clean them... and occasionally get sand in them... and run steel case ammo from countries that may no longer exist"
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
I think the actually argument is "AK's are more reliable if you never, ever clean them... and occasionally get sand in them... and run steel case ammo from countries that may no longer exist"
it would be unwise to do this with a rifle, especially one you intend to potentially use in a serious situation.
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