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06-24-2022, 05:38 AM
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been off booze and cane since 2011.

i'm on day 2 of no nicotine pouches.

just lol
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06-25-2022, 02:41 PM
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been off booze and cane since 2011.

i'm on day 2 of no nicotine pouches.

just lol
Damn nice on the alcohol and *******! How is the nicotine pouch quitting going? They say that nicotine is one of the most difficult things to quit and I don't disagree.



How is everyone's weekend going so far? Mine is going well, I just got back from the local recovery cafe. I'm gonna workout soon and then go out biking. The weather has been warm and beautiful up here in the Pacific Northwest. The recovery cafe is hosting its first picnic tomorrow at a private park. Apparently this park has a "water" fountain that is pink lemonade lol.
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06-27-2022, 05:52 AM
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Damn nice on the alcohol and *******! How is the nicotine pouch quitting going? They say that nicotine is one of the most difficult things to quit and I don't disagree.



How is everyone's weekend going so far? Mine is going well, I just got back from the local recovery cafe. I'm gonna workout soon and then go out biking. The weather has been warm and beautiful up here in the Pacific Northwest. The recovery cafe is hosting its first picnic tomorrow at a private park. Apparently this park has a "water" fountain that is pink lemonade lol.
very hard for me, i bought another can of pouches. i fell back
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06-27-2022, 09:37 AM
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very hard for me, i bought another can of pouches. i fell back
I hope you don’t beat yourself up too much. I hope you can recognize that we are dealing with a powerful disease and a hijacking of our neural pathways as well as accepting that we are humans and are not perfect. I say this because being hard on yourself can happen and it is not productive.

Instead of that, you can start working towards getting back on that horse and continuing on your recovery efforts. I strongly believe that we do not truly lose the war until we fully give up. But it we dust ourselves off and get back to it, we have not lost. I have had many relapses over the past year while actively working on my recovery. But, I’ve been doing well this go around because I’ve picked myself back up every time and kept going.
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06-27-2022, 07:34 PM
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Oh ****, I almost forgot to post on here; today is my 90 days clean! I'm ****ing super stoked about that!
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06-28-2022, 12:29 AM
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trying to get clean but i think i too far gone, sht sucks.
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06-28-2022, 09:09 AM
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slowly i'm starting to see what you homies are talking about. i feel like i'm digging a hole and i have a ladder but if i go too deeply i am going to have to use my cell for godsakes
That’s good that you are starting to recognize that! I don’t have any regrets (especially because I can’t change the past), but it would have been nice to see the hole I was digging for myself and get help sooner. I dug my hole deep and straight into hell lol. Fortunately, I am finally working my way back up! Why is your drug of destruction?
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06-28-2022, 04:40 PM
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Happy Tuesday everyone! I hope everyone is having a good day! I highly encourage coming in to our discord chat, we already have some lovely people in there.

My Tuesday is going well so far. Had taco Tuesday at the recovery cafe and my 3 months was recognized; I got a coin!

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06-30-2022, 07:04 PM
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Oh ****, I almost forgot to post on here; today is my 90 days clean! I'm ****ing super stoked about that!
congrats boyo!!!

havent done the best with alcohol lately, but better than the past few years on average.

have not done Kratom since last Tuesday, and thats the longest ive gone without that for a while. i think it was killing my dopamine and natural libido
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06-30-2022, 09:07 PM
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congrats boyo!!!

havent done the best with alcohol lately, but better than the past few years on average.

have not done Kratom since last Tuesday, and thats the longest ive gone without that for a while. i think it was killing my dopamine and natural libido
Thank you! It hasn't been a walk in the park, but in these 90+ days, the difference is quite noticeable. Even my appearance. Not to plug my YT channel, but I want to illustrate how much of a difference ~3 months makes (it's nice that I can compare like this and that's one reason why I've been doing these vids):

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Any progress is good progress! And that's fantastic you have been staying clean from kratom. Definitely a dopamine and testosterone killer.
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07-01-2022, 09:35 AM
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Update:

Broke up with gf, working more and drinking less (but still drinking socially). Overall i'm feeling a lot happier. I would like to thank everybody ITT who has commented and encouraged me to do the right thing. Thanks brahs.
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Update:

Broke up with gf, working more and drinking less (but still drinking socially). Overall i'm feeling a lot happier. I would like to thank everybody ITT who has commented and encouraged me to do the right thing. Thanks brahs.
Hell yeah! Thanks for updating us, I'm glad you made some some significant changes and that you're feeling a lot happier! Please continue to keep us posted
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07-01-2022, 12:02 PM
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Hell yeah! Thanks for updating us, I'm glad you made some some significant changes and that you're feeling a lot happier! Please continue to keep us posted

Thanks brother, i'm not where I want to be at the moment, however I feel a lot less stressed and my mind is clear. Time to take my life back!


Joey, can you pm me a link to the discord? the link you posted further up isn't working for me.
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07-01-2022, 02:16 PM
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Thanks brother, i'm not where I want to be at the moment, however I feel a lot less stressed and my mind is clear. Time to take my life back!


Joey, can you pm me a link to the discord? the link you posted further up isn't working for me.
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And so awesome for you, Joey! Well done!!!
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07-01-2022, 05:31 PM
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Thanks brother, i'm not where I want to be at the moment, however I feel a lot less stressed and my mind is clear. Time to take my life back!


Joey, can you pm me a link to the discord? the link you posted further up isn't working for me.
Hey sorry, I didn't catch this. Looks like RR beat me to the punch. Let me know if her link also doesn't work and we will figure something out! Would be great to have you!

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And so awesome for you, Joey! Well done!!!
Thank you!
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07-03-2022, 11:14 AM
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I'm back to day zero and feel pretty chitty about it. I wish the booze didn't have such a strong pull in my life. Feels like I'm never going to be able to completely get rid of it.

Any advice would be appreciated
I’ve been there and done that a million times! I think a good bit of advice (and I know it is easier said than done) is to not be too hard on yourself. I understand your frustration, but this is what addiction does. It takes over our lives and yes it can be managed, but it’s not easy. What have you done besides trying to not drink? I have only finally had some success after changing almost everything in my life. Where I lived, what activities I do, who I hangout with, treatment, better self care, etc. There needs to be more change than just abstinence otherwise it’s going to be much harder to stay clean.
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07-05-2022, 05:27 PM
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Still no drink since December 31; I missed my little brothers 18th busy in March and haven't seen him for 4 years - flying him to stay with me for a week, might wind up having a few drinks to celebrate his birthday with him.
Congrats on over six months of not drinking! That’s super awesome. Are you trying to stay completely sober or are you taking more of a harm reduction approach? If it’s the latter, that’s great that you’ll be able to have a few drinks with him and celebrate his presence. Not that one needs to drink to celebrate, but you know what I mean!
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07-05-2022, 08:21 PM
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I could very well be losing the past shreds of my sanity, but I could have sworn someone else posted in here after my last post. It started with in on this thread I believe.

I’m sorry if I missed your post and didn’t reply until now! I understand if you deleted it for privacy or what not. But we welcome everyone in recovery and working towards sobriety in one way or another.

Edit: okay I'm not losing my mind lol. This was still in my browser past tab. I won’t include the username because I don’t know your reasons for deletion, but I did want to reply.

In on this thread. 2 months back woke up one morning completely numb and tingling in my extremities on the left side. Thought I had a stroke and have been to the ER twice since but that was ruled out. It slowly spread from there and now seems most common on my left leg/foot with it occasionally being present in other places. Caused me a ton of anxiety while other causes get ruled out but it’s possible there’s nerve damage and it’s from booze. Pretty much ~15 drinks every weekend for the past 10 years with few breaks. When this happened 2 months back I stopped drinking with the exception of a trip with friends a month ago where I had ~10 drinks over 3 days. Stopped again and honestly will not drink again at a minimum for a few months. Neither my doctor or neurologist think it’s likely to be alcohol related at that amount but said it’s possible. Most of what I’ve read requires more than that to do nerve damage but I’m not about to chance it. I need a break anyway. Nerves apparently regenerate incredibly slow and some damage can be permanent but I’m hoping I stopped early enough to reverse the damage. Would be nice to resume a normal level of drinking down the road but it depends on where this goes and what causes it. Right now have zero desire to drink so the not drinking part is pretty easy. When traveling it’ll be a whole different ballgame because I tend to drink hard when I travel. Definitely more than 15 per week but thankfully I don’t go that heavy when home or I’d have bigger issues.

So yeah. No booze for a while and hopefully the tingling and burning sensations subside eventually. It takes weeks/months for that to improve usually so we’ll see where it goes. All I can do is wait at this point and continue with the neurologist to keep ruling out the more serious causes.
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07-06-2022, 10:12 AM
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I actually stopped because I'm cycling on and off certain substances that could become hepatoxic during their use and getting massive and shredded is more important to me than beer and spirits, basically. Plus I am enjoying all the other benefits of not drinking.

I dunno if the little bro even drinks; if he's not interested I'll be going the whole year - after which I might just keep going.
Makes sense, don't want to trash your liver!
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07-07-2022, 05:58 PM
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PAWS is chitty af brahs, I think I am at the part where my body is going through homeostasis, regulating itself after smoking weed everyday for years.

Can't find enjoyment in anything, haven't played video games, can't watch movies/shows, don't like to socialize(at work I just keep to myself and GTFO), and am not interested in conversating either. Sometimes I legit just sit in my room after work or my free days doing jack chit. Only thing I do do is eat junk food and listen to music. Still hit up the gym. But man, the first two weeks quitting weed were pretty good .. but now it's pure chit
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PAWS is chitty af brahs, I think I am at the part where my body is going through homeostasis, regulating itself after smoking weed everyday for years.

Can't find enjoyment in anything, haven't played video games, can't watch movies/shows, don't like to socialize(at work I just keep to myself and GTFO), and am not interested in conversating either. Sometimes I legit just sit in my room after work or my free days doing jack chit. Only thing I do do is eat junk food and listen to music. Still hit up the gym. But man, the first two weeks quitting weed were pretty good .. but now it's pure chit
It’ll pass. Just stay strong to it. You’re self aware so that’s a good tool. The neurotransmitters are trying to get back to normal. Takes time. Congrats on staying sober!
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PAWS is chitty af brahs, I think I am at the part where my body is going through homeostasis, regulating itself after smoking weed everyday for years.

Can't find enjoyment in anything, haven't played video games, can't watch movies/shows, don't like to socialize(at work I just keep to myself and GTFO), and am not interested in conversating either. Sometimes I legit just sit in my room after work or my free days doing jack chit. Only thing I do do is eat junk food and listen to music. Still hit up the gym. But man, the first two weeks quitting weed were pretty good .. but now it's pure chit
Yeah thats PAWS for you lol. I ****ing hate it. SSM12 said it best. Whenever I am having symptoms of PAWS, I try to keep in mind that 1) your brain and body are healing and getting back to homeostasis, 2) it will be transient, and 3) PAWS symptoms will happen less frequently and less intensely as time goes by.

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It’ll pass. Just stay strong to it. You’re self aware so that’s a good tool. The neurotransmitters are trying to get back to normal. Takes time. Congrats on staying sober!
Well said! I agree with the mentality of it passing and to stay strong!


And sorry I haven't been posting much brahs! It feels like the days are flying by and that there are not nearly enough hours in a day lol. And, I've been mostly chatting in our sober/recovery discord chat. Some great people in there and it's nice sharing bits of our lives and supporting each other! I've had a great day and got a good workout in. I really need to up my effort in job hunting. I was a bit disappointed when volunteering today that someone who works at the recovery cafe told me they were hiring for the kitchen and when I asked the kitchen manager, they already filled the job I would love to work there because there are a ton of amazing and positive people in recovery and it would further help me in my goal of working as a recovery coach and/or peer support.
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It’ll pass. Just stay strong to it. You’re self aware so that’s a good tool. The neurotransmitters are trying to get back to normal. Takes time. Congrats on staying sober!
Thanks! It's been real easy to stay sober.. easier than I thought. But I can't lie, there's been times where i'm offered it and for a second think it wouldn't hurt to take a hit. But I never do it. I wonder how long this will take? It sucks balls. Feels like life is passing me by and it's not in my energies and wants to actually do anything right now. I feel like opportunities to do stuff with people socially have passed since I ceased talking to them like I used to.. idk if that's just me tbh but I know that in other times i'd jump at that chit right away.

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Yeah thats PAWS for you lol. I ****ing hate it. SSM12 said it best. Whenever I am having symptoms of PAWS, I try to keep in mind that 1) your brain and body are healing and getting back to homeostasis, 2) it will be transient, and 3) PAWS symptoms will happen less frequently and less intensely as time goes by.



Well said! I agree with the mentality of it passing and to stay strong!


And sorry I haven't been posting much brahs! It feels like the days are flying by and that there are not nearly enough hours in a day lol. And, I've been mostly chatting in our sober/recovery discord chat. Some great people in there and it's nice sharing bits of our lives and supporting each other! I've had a great day and got a good workout in. I really need to up my effort in job hunting. I was a bit disappointed when volunteering today that someone who works at the recovery cafe told me they were hiring for the kitchen and when I asked the kitchen manager, they already filled the job I would love to work there because there are a ton of amazing and positive people in recovery and it would further help me in my goal of working as a recovery coach and/or peer support.
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07-07-2022, 08:40 PM
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Are there any other recovery cafes near you? The important thing is to never give up in your search for what you want!
There is a new one that recently opened up downtown but it’s only open three times a week. It’s harder to get there via bus and I have a good reputation at this cafe. Fortunately, I am not urgently in need of a job, but I do need to start working towards some sort of employment.
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07-07-2022, 08:57 PM
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Thanks! It's been real easy to stay sober.. easier than I thought. But I can't lie, there's been times where i'm offered it and for a second think it wouldn't hurt to take a hit. But I never do it. I wonder how long this will take? It sucks balls. Feels like life is passing me by and it's not in my energies and wants to actually do anything right now. I feel like opportunities to do stuff with people socially have passed since I ceased talking to them like I used to.. idk if that's just me tbh but I know that in other times i'd jump at that chit right away.

Are there any other recovery cafes near you? The important thing is to never give up in your search for what you want!
Just try to remember that long term you’re doing what is best for you.

I used to binge drink. Haven’t drank in a long time and I’m still feeling some of that lethargy. But as it goes away you’ll also feel the brain fog go away
The temptation does suck. And so does the isolation and that sometimes can be a trigger. I relate to not finding joy in video games anymore. What helped me was finding a hobby I didn’t do much while I was drinking. So there was no association and it was stimulating. Working out also helped. Initial sobriety I did crush junk food to cope lol

But those feelings will pass. It’s sorta like weight loss in the sense that it’s EASY to get fat or influence your brain with chemicals but the longer you were fat/used the longer it takes to undo everything. You have the discipline. Everyone in this thread does. I believe in everyone here. It won’t be easy all the time but as you succeed during those hard days you’ll build self esteem and confidence in your abilities. And that goes a long way.
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There is a new one that recently opened up downtown but it’s only open three times a week. It’s harder to get there via bus and I have a good reputation at this cafe. Fortunately, I am not urgently in need of a job, but I do need to start working towards some sort of employment.
I'm pretty sure a position might open up there. But the good thing is that you might be able to spread your vibes and reputation to other places that might also need your sort of support and vibes! A lot of places are hiring too, so it shouldn't be a hassle at all! Unless they under pay you lol
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Just try to remember that long term you’re doing what is best for you.

I used to binge drink. Haven’t drank in a long time and I’m still feeling some of that lethargy. But as it goes away you’ll also feel the brain fog go away
The temptation does suck. And so does the isolation and that sometimes can be a trigger. I relate to not finding joy in video games anymore. What helped me was finding a hobby I didn’t do much while I was drinking. So there was no association and it was stimulating. Working out also helped. Initial sobriety I did crush junk food to cope lol

But those feelings will pass. It’s sorta like weight loss in the sense that it’s EASY to get fat or influence your brain with chemicals but the longer you were fat/used the longer it takes to undo everything. You have the discipline. Everyone in this thread does. I believe in everyone here. It won’t be easy all the time but as you succeed during those hard days you’ll build self esteem and confidence in your abilities. And that goes a long way.
Yes sir that is important, I do this for better job prospects in my future, since better paying jobs always drug test you, and I don't want a drug habit to stop me from advancing in life.. fuk that. Been stuck far too long.

Ahh I see and understand what you said about no association with the habit you used to have. I recently bought a boxing stand and a bag for my apartment, need to finish setting it up and giving it a go(been busy at my job as were understaffed) and hope that helps out with my mental/physical stimulation. Junk food so good but so bad man, lol. I guess it's a way for our bodies to fill in whatever addiction we had

I wish I could speed this up, but yeah, finding new hobbies, going out in the sun more and working towards being healthy should go a long way. I appreciate the words and it's true, everyone here has the discipline and capability to succeed and take control of your lives, and achieve your goals no matter how big they are.
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I'm pretty sure a position might open up there. But the good thing is that you might be able to spread your vibes and reputation to other places that might also need your sort of support and vibes! A lot of places are hiring too, so it shouldn't be a hassle at all! Unless they under pay you lol
Yes sir that is important, I do this for better job prospects in my future, since better paying jobs always drug test you, and I don't want a drug habit to stop me from advancing in life.. fuk that. Been stuck far too long.

Ahh I see and understand what you said about no association with the habit you used to have. I recently bought a boxing stand and a bag for my apartment, need to finish setting it up and giving it a go(been busy at my job as were understaffed) and hope that helps out with my mental/physical stimulation. Junk food so good but so bad man, lol. I guess it's a way for our bodies to fill in whatever addiction we had

I wish I could speed this up, but yeah, finding new hobbies, going out in the sun more and working towards being healthy should go a long way. I appreciate the words and it's true, everyone here has the discipline and capability to succeed and take control of your lives, and achieve your goals no matter how big they are.
Yeah I am sure it will and I completely agree with you. I suppose that getting my foot in the door at the cafe will be a bit easier and I'm certainly not opposed to working elsewhere. Fortunately money is of low concern for me right now. Not really employment related, but I want to start going back to more sober events. There's this organization in my city that has different activities throughout the week and last year they had some volleyball and kickball games which was hella fun. I honestly have had more fun at these events being sober than I have had with substances. Maybe at first, but that quickly dissipated and turned into negative consequences lol.
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Yeah I am sure it will and I completely agree with you. I suppose that getting my foot in the door at the cafe will be a bit easier and I'm certainly not opposed to working elsewhere. Fortunately money is of low concern for me right now. Not really employment related, but I want to start going back to more sober events. There's this organization in my city that has different activities throughout the week and last year they had some volleyball and kickball games which was hella fun. I honestly have had more fun at these events being sober than I have had with substances. Maybe at first, but that quickly dissipated and turned into negative consequences lol.
You got a side gig mane? That's good that money is of low concern. Also I think the same, it would be fun to go to more events in the city, there you can meet more people and see that people aren't really that bad. You'll also more likely to meet like minded people and in reality those people go for the same reasons you would.

A few years back I would go to some parks and events to play sports, best times ever, best fitness in my life ever too lol
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You got a side gig mane? That's good that money is of low concern. Also I think the same, it would be fun to go to more events in the city, there you can meet more people and see that people aren't really that bad. You'll also more likely to meet like minded people and in reality those people go for the same reasons you would.

A few years back I would go to some parks and events to play sports, best times ever, best fitness in my life ever too lol
Yeah kind of lol. I make my money through cash back apps and offer sites with tasks/offers that pay money. I am able to make a few hundred dollars a month. I am applying for other jobs and also working with a temp agency in the meantime. I am fortunate enough to get food stamps and I also qualify for free cellular service. My rent (which is my only bill currently) is only $300, so that helps lol.
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Oh and I dun goofed with the discord. Here is an invite link that will be valid. Apparently the default is that it lasts for only 7 days, so I apologize!!

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