omg u r so mysterious! This you OP?



At least you know what you want. I would get bored with a dumb slave woman that prioritizes me 100% and has no autonomy to do more for herself or for others. Good luck with your goals.

My husband always wanted the $$$ I earn, because, well, it gives him a comfortable lifestyle. Otherwise we'd be living on one income. We did for 4 years when I stayed home with our daughter and it was tough and he constantly complained that I needed to return to work. But I miss being at home. I liked working part-time though as it's a good mix of both.

1. You sort of contradict yourself with the two different statements.
a. "I know women that look the other way when their wealthy husbands cheat" - I agree....I know many that do as well. That doesnt mean that they are OPENLY cool about it. Read my words specifically.
b. You go on to mention "all of a sudden they are getting divorced because the spouse found out about infidelity" - which again means they are not cool with it.

Just because you are wealthy does not mean these people have high standards and morals. On the other hand....i know plenty of well to do people that live a pretty traditional, old fashioned lifestyle.

As it should be. My wife and I have to schedule time in advance if we want to go on a date or a trip. You cant just pick up and leave on a whim like we used to. No issue.....its a trade off we were more than willing to make.

If you go back and re-read your posts......you sound just as delusional as some of these over weight average looking women that think they can land a high value man. Now I am not saying you are unworthy....I honestly dont know your details.....but I'll assume you have all things in tact (including wealth)

For you to ask of a woman all of these important things AND for her to be cool with you banging other women because of your urges sort of puts you on the same page as the overweight ugly chick that thinks she deserves a handsome multi millionaire husband. Finding a good woman is rare enough. Finding one with all of those traits and is cool with you banging others is a unicorn. Good luck to you.

Same thing every other high value, attractive male with lots of options does. Have your wife/family and sleep with other chicks on the side. Just don’t get caught. Most guys just don’t admit it to themselves tho and end up doing it anyway, don’t be a beta like those king x

I am more than willing to bet you dont know any successful man (8 figure worth+) deeply so stop it with your BS perspectives.

People often sell themselves short and are capable of more than than they think. It is good to be realistic with goals, but for a lot of people saying "I can't" is just cope to get out of making the effort to try - or to avoid the pain of failure.

Don't know if that's what you're doing Ken, but it's really common and something I keep in mind for myself.

probably been said but, it is a dbag position, and most of them are dbags, but if they actually get people into the community, to spread a desire to be better, etc, then I appreciate it.

I bet one reason these influencers stay in shape and do good is for the people they are helping so they are helping themselves as well. It isn’t altruistic but that is okay. I appreciate it.

Those guys totally cheat. It’s too easy for them.

And yes, I know many at my tennis club.

You deleted the pic so couldn't see her, but if she lives in the states and shes super attractive 50k followers with good pictures, I can personally guarantee you she isn't deleting **** for anyone I'm speaking from experience.



BTW, have you seen her dms, don't ask her about it, but if she shows you don't say no. It will humble you quick after witnessing it, again speaking from experience.

I have plenty of friends who make 6-8 figures a year who aren't getting any, most of them work in tech super smart, successful but aren't the best looking have zero social life and no social media.

Wtf are you talking about?

Yeah those guys definitely don’t get any from the wife or on the side.

First my comment was to SS making general comments about rich men and I was just making a counter comment that she probably has never deeply known any one of them. If you go read her statement she said MOST successful men do this = cheats. Im asking "based on what data are you going off of?"

For you Dustin - agree, SOME of those guys cheat too. Guess what? Broke guys in the hood also cheat. Guess what as well? Women ALSO cheat. This is not news.......but it has nothing to do with wealth.

I'm surprised you still don't know this about SS. Everything is clearly boxed in black & white for someone with that level of Asperger's.

There is literally no room for nuance or context.

I have no idea why you guys keep engaging or expect anything different.

I dont believe that. Thats how societies from the past worked, high value man having multiple women to pick from. I could go into detail and write long ass paragraphs explaining how and why does it work like that, and as you are a smart dude im sure i could at least open your mind a bit, but dont think this is the thread for it.

But in short, a fat ugly woman thinking she deserves a millionaire isnt remotely close to a high value man IN ALL AREAS being with multiple women. In fact, im going to pull this number out of my ass, but id bet my two testicles that over 95% of men that are high value in ALL AREAS dont practice monogamy, only pretend to. If you are the ones that do legit stay monogamous, my hats off to you serious, you are a better man that me and 95% of guys of similar value, and your wife did win the lottery with you. But honestly, i dont know you that well for me to 100% believe you have never EVER fooled around with another woman, you could be lying for all i know, but ill give you the benefit of the doubt

I know you will say that current society is very different that societies from the past, and i agree, but i think you are talking about your generation, traditional minded families were the norm. Nowadays, marriage isnt working, relationships arent working, people are becoming polyamorous (is that the word), and women are becoming more open to the idea of sharing a high value man instead of being with one they dont truly look up to.

Right now, i agree, its going to be extremely difficult to find a woman that understand and accepts this idea, but i truly do believe than in 10-20 years, these type of relationships will be extremely common, and i hope you and i are still miscing by then so we can talk about that.

But i dont think there has ever been a society when an undesirable woman is with high value man, that has and will never happen because it isnt coded in your DNA, as opposed to the dynamic i was talking about, of high value men being with multiple womenYeah, i know. But i have trouble with the "hiding it" part. Seems like a bitch thing to do.The problem is that i dont even see it as a failure. Ive becoming more self aware the past few years and realized that we were living in an artificial and unnatural dynamic. Life-long commitments supported by legal contracts are not natural, monogamy isnt natural, there isnt a person for everyone etc. We have been fed a lie since the day we were toddlers.

This worked wonderful for society, and allowed us to advance and progress, but i simply dont think its natural. At the end of the day, people are selfish, and care more about themselves than humanity as a whole.She truly did. She doesnt live in the states, but here in Mexico its pretty much the same **** regarding social media.


And i havent seen her DMS, but i dont need to see those to know whats going on. Ive been preaching about the dangers of social media for years here, im well aware of whats going on there. Theres always some super rich gigachad on their DMs offering them trips and stupid stuff like that, theres always at least one lol, thats why relationships dont last nowadays.

This whole thread made me realize we've all been indoctrinated into an unnatural way of life (for most) AKA monogamy.

Lettuce be real tea...We're all meant to phuck each other nonstop until we need, sleep, food, water, chit , piss, shower, take care of responsibilities etc. But really during our free time ALL of us should be exchanging fluids for proper mental health etc. That's the meaning of life to reproduce. Scientifically speaking.

If monogamy wasn't a thing would people feel as bad after a breakup? Be as jealous? Etc?

Its obvious men and women annoy each other, so that makes me think this whole thing is one big sick joke because we're attracted to each other. Gays have it easy today.

100% man. Monogamy and marriage benefits men, because most men are average or unnattractive to the eyes of woman, so a monogamous and traditional society allows these men to get a woman, kids, sex, etc. This works great for society because it keeps men motivated, productive, with a purpose, etc.

Marriage and slut shaming were introduced by religion and supported by the goverment, this allowed us to advance as a society and focus on progress, technology, industry, etc.


But it simply isnt natural. Natural selection doesnt really want 5'5" mediocre Tim reproducing, nature wants 6'2" Chad reproducing, to improve the human race. Thats the concept of evolution. Thats why 6'2" Chads get to fuk hundreds of girls and 5'5" will be lucky to land one woman and stay monogamous to her. It simply is our nature.

Think about it, women are fertile from 15 to 40 (lets be generous and give them 5 extra years). Lets say a woman marries a high value man with great genetics both on their 20's and has his kids, but after 40 whats next? The guy can keep having kids and improving the human race till the day hes death, his sperm is good well into his 60's and 70's, but she cant have kids anymore. Nature doesnt want him to stop having kids just for the sake of monogamy.

And you see that IRL a lot. Even on a traditional slut shaming society, men divorcing their woman when they are both in their 40s and him replacing her with a younger model is extremely common. Its simply our nature, but most people dont even fukin realize it.

I actually dont disagree wtih anything you said here. (outside of the 95% statistics but you already admitted to pulling that number out of your arse....) But the fact is.....you are leaving out one criticacl piece of data. Go read your post again. You are talking about men being with multiple women. All true and good. I know many in this situation.

I DONT KNOW ANY that are with a high quality woman and that woman knows about him sleeping around is ok with it. Thats the key......most of thoes women are trading a certain lifestyle for that.....and to me.....that means they were raised with the wrong values.

Or let me put it a different angle......if your mom or sister were married to a dude that were banging other chicks and she knew about it.....would you be cool with it?

Monogamous pair-bonding is natural.

Life-long monogamy may not be, especially for a man who is sacrificing the opportunity to procreate in older age. This is where cultural/religious institutions came in to civilize society.

He's a legend in his own mind ... Rico Suave

That's cool, you get to choose what's important to you. I am curious, what do you think your dream girl should be working on right now, pre meeting you and pre children?

Because you come from a traditional generation man. It wasnt a thing, i too was raised with those beliefs, "a man having multiple women? Thats outrageous". Thats where marriage contracts come into play, goverment comes into play, allowances, divorce settlements, etc, the entire concept of marriage and logistics behind it are to ENFORCE monogamy onto us, because the elites realized centuries ago that having a degenerate society, as natural as it may be, wasnt benefitting to it, and was holding us back. Add to that religion which was much more influential the last century than it has been on the XXI and of course, its a rare thing for your generation. Even mine.


I just think thats going to change real soon. History doesnt repeat, but it rhymes. Humanity has gone trough the same cycle multiple times, and social media basically forced that change in direction to our younger generations, so i feel pretty confident of whats to come.


Your last question is a great one. You put me in the spot, and as ive been raised with your same values, i really dont know how id react. You have a daughter right? I assume you want for her exactly what you gave your wife?

Dont want to be a douchebag about it and take it personal, but i hope shes lucky enough to find a guy like you, srs. Most high value men nowadays dont share your values, only pretend to.

You were you very close to your ex's clients that bought hookers and blow from him is what you were saying?
And you are also saying these successful men that bought hookers and blow from your ex were worth 8+ figures? (that was my criteria for you)

Yeah, for sure love is real. Ive experienced. Its just temporary.

Monogamy isnt really monogamy if it has an expiration date. Everyone can stay loyal on the first couple of years of marriage, or when nobody else looks their way twice so they dont even have the chance to NOT be monogamous anyway.

Never thought about that. Maybe for her father's business, whatever that could be?

That would mean she hasnt gone trough what women working for other men have gone trough (degeneracy, proposals, etc), and as her father is there to protect her, he would know better than to put her in situations that could put her integrity in jeopardy.

Being an attractive woman in the workforce is really not a good place to be as a woman, or as the man of said woman

So a stay at home daughter who works for the family business? No judgment, just trying to get a feel for what your ideal vision here is.

Why'd you make the thread if you already have everything figured out?

Ego boost?

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