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post 1686343373 07-12-2023, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
I love how this guy owns Ben Shapiro right here, and all he does is retreat into the CIA's blame Stalin for WW2 narrative.



It is an uncomfortable fact that Americans have tried to erase for 80 years that Joseph Stalin saved Europe and possibly the entire world. And he entered the pact for peace, and he first sought peace with the capitalist West, who had attacked the Bolsheviks with the Whites btw, but they snubbed him.
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
It was. You've all been lied to. Stalin dramatically improved the QOL of the average citizen.
know too many Russian families that still spit when his name is mentioned to believe that
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
know too many Russian families that still spit when his name is mentioned to believe that
Well the pseudointellectual basement dwelling Wincel, of course, knows far better than them.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
know too many Russian families that still spit when his name is mentioned to believe that
Yeah, and they are all American and probably descended from Kulaks.

What a shocker.

"Just ask the Russians in the Gulag!"

Well, here's our own CIA funded propaganda network asking them.



When you try to make anticommunist propaganda and accidentally admit Stalin saved the planet. Lmfao

These are women who were in the fuking Gulag. I think they know better than you.
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
Yeah, and they are all American and probably descended from Kulaks.

What a shocker.

"Just ask the Russians in the Gulag!"

Well, here's our own CIA funded propaganda network asking them.



When you try to make anticommunist propaganda and accidentally admit Stalin saved the planet. Lmfao

These are women who were in the fuking Gulag. I think they know better than you.
I didn't say I knew better than anyone, I said people that escaped Russia during Stailin's rule know better than you do.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I didn't say I knew better than anyone, I said people that escaped Russia during Stailin's rule know better than you do.
Killed a few million (many of whom had it coming). Saved billions. "Villain". I guess math really is hard for Americans. Sad! If you come at Stalin without any political bias or bullshyt and just look at the facts, he was the greatest leader to ever walk this Earth.

No amount of CIA funded bullshytting will ever erase the victory of the Soviet people over nazism or their incredible contributions to mathematics and science and the hope and aid that they brought to the oppressed and impoverished victims of imperialism all over this planet.

Their project lives on today with the CCP. The torch of Stalin burns on, carried by Xi Jinping, in spite of the US government's best efforts to extinguish it. Poverty will be eradicated. The world will be educated. You cannot stop them.

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Most people prefer justice to wealth.

I don't care for crumbs when someone less deserving next to me gets to lord over me.
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
much better
So much better that they had to create a wall to keep people from fleeing......
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
I love how this guy owns Ben Shapiro right here, and all he does is retreat into the CIA's blame Stalin for WW2 narrative.



It is an uncomfortable fact that Americans have tried to erase for 80 years that Joseph Stalin saved Europe and possibly the entire world. And he entered the pact for peace, and he first sought peace with the capitalist West, who had attacked the Bolsheviks with the Whites btw, but they snubbed him.
Wow.......he saved the world now?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
So much better that they had to create a wall to keep people from fleeing......
Of course. The wealthy would love to flee, as would those who benefited from a Soviet education. Brb state invests everything to educate its people only to see them flee like rodents for their freedumbz and empower the capitalist imperialist scum they are fighting to dethrone. I'd have done the same and hunted down and executed every bitch traitor.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Wow.......he saved the world now?
That's right.
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Originally Posted By DomMJr
Most people prefer justice to wealth.

I don't care for crumbs when someone less deserving next to me gets to lord over me.
The best part is we don't have to choose. You can have both, as long as some retards are willing to accept even a remotely modest amount of wealth over degenerate opulence.
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
Killed a few million (many of whom had it coming). Saved billions. "Villain". I guess math really is hard for Americans. Sad! If you come at Stalin without any political bias or bullshyt and just look at the facts, he was the greatest leader to ever walk this Earth.

No amount of CIA funded bullshytting will ever erase the victory of the Soviet people over nazism or their incredible contributions to mathematics and science and the hope and aid that they brought to the oppressed and impoverished victims of imperialism all over this planet.

Their project lives on today with the CCP. The torch of Stalin burns on, carried by Xi Jinping, in spite of the US government's best efforts to extinguish it. Poverty will be eradicated. The world will be educated. You cannot stop them.
I don't believe you actually believe this
post 1686350273 07-12-2023, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I don't believe you actually believe this
post 1686356463 07-12-2023, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
exactly
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
exactly
u mad tho
post 1686357313 07-12-2023, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
u mad tho
about you? no. sad though. definitely sad
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I don't believe you actually believe this
Stalin was a loser that planned on invading all of Europe but Hitler attacked him first before he could invade. And he reacted like a little bitch right afterwards. Then instead of being able to invade all of Europe, he was cucked by the Americans who now control almost all of Europe (his dream for communism) and his little “union” collapsed 40 years later.

Imagine idolizing a loser that failed to achieve his dreams and who presided over a government based on a system only peasants with room temperature IQs and midwits could find compelling and that didn’t even last 100 years in practice.

He literally dedicated himself to a failed ideology that only 3rd world dirt people and hipster ***gots in college take seriously in the 21st century. He completely wasted his life.

This Joe Bidet guy—I bet if he somehow ever convinced a woman to allow him near her vagina (without paying) would abandon his hero worship of Stalin. It’s pretty obvious he just identifies with him because he’s also a loser that won’t turn his dreams into a reality.
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Originally Posted By cheerupemokid
Stalin was a loser that planned on invading all of Europe but Hitler attacked him first before he could invade. And he reacted like a little bitch right afterwards. Then instead of being able to invade all of Europe, he was cucked by the Americans who now control almost all of Europe (his dream for communism) and his little “union” collapsed 40 years later.

Imagine idolizing a loser that failed to achieve his dreams and who presided over a government based on a system only peasants with room temperature IQs and midwits could find compelling and that didn’t even last 100 years in practice.

He literally dedicated himself to a failed ideology that only 3rd world dirt people and hipster ***gots in college take seriously in the 21st century. He completely wasted his life.

This Joe Bidet guy—I bet if he somehow ever convinced a woman to allow him near her vagina (without paying) would abandon his hero worship of Stalin. It’s pretty obvious he just identifies with him because he’s also a loser that won’t turn his dreams into a reality.
lold Stalin was the most successful leader in human history.

Not surprised by your low IQ comments tho. You've always been a fuktard. "This JoeBidet guy." Lmfao
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Originally Posted By cheerupemokid
Stalin was a loser that planned on invading all of Europe but Hitler attacked him first before he could invade. And he reacted like a little bitch right afterwards. Then instead of being able to invade all of Europe, he was cucked by the Americans who now control almost all of Europe (his dream for communism) and his little “union” collapsed 40 years later.

Imagine idolizing a loser that failed to achieve his dreams and who presided over a government based on a system only peasants with room temperature IQs and midwits could find compelling and that didn’t even last 100 years in practice.

He literally dedicated himself to a failed ideology that only 3rd world dirt people and hipster ***gots in college take seriously in the 21st century. He completely wasted his life.

This Joe Bidet guy—I bet if he somehow ever convinced a woman to allow him near her vagina (without paying) would abandon his hero worship of Stalin. It’s pretty obvious he just identifies with him because he’s also a loser that won’t turn his dreams into a reality.
that's the thing - I have seen him defend things that you can tell he actually cares about and believes the cause. His defense of Stalin is empty and devoid of his usual emotional instability. he doesn't really worship Stalin, he just wants to illicit reactions
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
that's the thing - I have seen him defend things that you can tell he actually cares about and believes the cause. His defense of Stalin is empty and devoid of his usual emotional instability. he doesn't really worship Stalin, he just wants to illicit reactions
The word is elicit. I do actually defend Stalin. I think he was based for his time. Would I have done everything he did? No. But he won, and that is what matters in the end. I am more libertarian than Stalin. I believe in human rights and civil liberties. Stalin didn't care much for LGBT rights, for example, or for due process. I do. But I agree with Stalin's mission and priorities. He had his finger on the important things. So does Xi. More importantly, I view Stalin as inspiring for his unwavering will and commitment to his beliefs. He really did save the world, whether you want to admit it or not.
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
The word is elicit. I do actually defend Stalin. I think he was based for his time. Would I have done everything he did? No. But he won, and that is what matters in the end.
well the word wasn't casted

and I am aware you defend Stalin - you just do it disingenuously
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
well the word wasn't casted

and I am aware you defend Stalin - you just do it disingenuously
Oh? Gosh I must be the only disingenuous poster on this board...
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
Oh? Gosh I must be the only disingenuous poster on this board...
Did I say that?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Did I say that?
Did I say you said that?
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
much better
Than what? The communists didn’t even overthrow the Tsarists. Lol. They were already overthrown.

And better for who? The millions of Kulaks (the productive peasants) killed? The ethnic and religious minorities who were repressed and send to Kazakhstan and Siberia and chit? The millions who died due to completely avoidable famine in Ukraine caused by collectivist state retardation?

You’ve got to be trolling.
Always Pick 4
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
Did I say you said that?
great so glad we are in agreement
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Originally Posted By Mike86er
Than what? The communists didn’t even overthrow the Tsarists. Lol. They were already overthrown.

And better for who? The millions of Kulaks (the productive peasants) killed? The ethnic and religious minorities who were repressed and send to Kazakhstan and Siberia and chit? The millions who died due to completely avoidable famine in Ukraine caused by collectivist state retardation?

You’ve got to be trolling.
The Tsars were chit. The interrim govt was also chit. The Kulaks mostly had it coming. Productive my ass. They were nobles who owned huge swaths of land while everyone else was left to rot. The good ones turned over their chit for the Soviet vision. The bad ones got what they deserved. Yea it was messy, but stable. They ended ethnic strife and built nations for each group. Sorry the Russians didn't wait and let the nazis collaborate with muslims. You can cry about how inhumane it was, but the USSR rapidly industrialized and became ultra powerful. Oh the Ukraine famine was completely avoidable. Proof?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
great so glad we are in agreement
Did I say I agree?
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
Did I say I agree?
there was an admission so yes
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet
The word is elicit. I do actually defend Stalin. I think he was based for his time. Would I have done everything he did? No. But he won, and that is what matters in the end. I am more libertarian than Stalin. I believe in human rights and civil liberties. Stalin didn't care much for LGBT rights, for example, or for due process. I do. But I agree with Stalin's mission and priorities. He had his finger on the important things. So does Xi. More importantly, I view Stalin as inspiring for his unwavering will and commitment to his beliefs. He really did save the world, whether you want to admit it or not.
How did he save the "world?"
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