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07-12-2023, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
I love how this guy owns Ben Shapiro right here, and all he does is retreat into the CIA's blame Stalin for WW2 narrative.
It is an uncomfortable fact that Americans have tried to erase for 80 years that Joseph Stalin saved Europe and possibly the entire world. And he entered the pact for peace, and he first sought peace with the capitalist West, who had attacked the Bolsheviks with the Whites btw, but they snubbed him.
It is an uncomfortable fact that Americans have tried to erase for 80 years that Joseph Stalin saved Europe and possibly the entire world. And he entered the pact for peace, and he first sought peace with the capitalist West, who had attacked the Bolsheviks with the Whites btw, but they snubbed him.

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07-12-2023, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
know too many Russian families that still spit when his name is mentioned to believe thatIt was. You've all been lied to. Stalin dramatically improved the QOL of the average citizen.
07-12-2023, 07:51 AM
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07-12-2023, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Yeah, and they are all American and probably descended from Kulaks.know too many Russian families that still spit when his name is mentioned to believe that
What a shocker.
"Just ask the Russians in the Gulag!"
Well, here's our own CIA funded propaganda network asking them.
When you try to make anticommunist propaganda and accidentally admit Stalin saved the planet. Lmfao
These are women who were in the fuking Gulag. I think they know better than you.
07-12-2023, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
I didn't say I knew better than anyone, I said people that escaped Russia during Stailin's rule know better than you do.Yeah, and they are all American and probably descended from Kulaks.
What a shocker.
"Just ask the Russians in the Gulag!"
Well, here's our own CIA funded propaganda network asking them.
When you try to make anticommunist propaganda and accidentally admit Stalin saved the planet. Lmfao
These are women who were in the fuking Gulag. I think they know better than you.
What a shocker.
"Just ask the Russians in the Gulag!"
Well, here's our own CIA funded propaganda network asking them.
When you try to make anticommunist propaganda and accidentally admit Stalin saved the planet. Lmfao
These are women who were in the fuking Gulag. I think they know better than you.
07-12-2023, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Killed a few million (many of whom had it coming). Saved billions. "Villain". I guess math really is hard for Americans. Sad! If you come at Stalin without any political bias or bullshyt and just look at the facts, he was the greatest leader to ever walk this Earth.I didn't say I knew better than anyone, I said people that escaped Russia during Stailin's rule know better than you do.
No amount of CIA funded bullshytting will ever erase the victory of the Soviet people over nazism or their incredible contributions to mathematics and science and the hope and aid that they brought to the oppressed and impoverished victims of imperialism all over this planet.
Their project lives on today with the CCP. The torch of Stalin burns on, carried by Xi Jinping, in spite of the US government's best efforts to extinguish it. Poverty will be eradicated. The world will be educated. You cannot stop them.
07-12-2023, 08:35 AM
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07-12-2023, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
So much better that they had to create a wall to keep people from fleeing......much better
07-12-2023, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
Wow.......he saved the world now?I love how this guy owns Ben Shapiro right here, and all he does is retreat into the CIA's blame Stalin for WW2 narrative.
It is an uncomfortable fact that Americans have tried to erase for 80 years that Joseph Stalin saved Europe and possibly the entire world. And he entered the pact for peace, and he first sought peace with the capitalist West, who had attacked the Bolsheviks with the Whites btw, but they snubbed him.
It is an uncomfortable fact that Americans have tried to erase for 80 years that Joseph Stalin saved Europe and possibly the entire world. And he entered the pact for peace, and he first sought peace with the capitalist West, who had attacked the Bolsheviks with the Whites btw, but they snubbed him.
07-12-2023, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Of course. The wealthy would love to flee, as would those who benefited from a Soviet education. Brb state invests everything to educate its people only to see them flee like rodents for their freedumbz and empower the capitalist imperialist scum they are fighting to dethrone. I'd have done the same and hunted down and executed every bitch traitor.So much better that they had to create a wall to keep people from fleeing......
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
That's right.Wow.......he saved the world now?
07-12-2023, 08:45 AM
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#221
Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
The best part is we don't have to choose. You can have both, as long as some retards are willing to accept even a remotely modest amount of wealth over degenerate opulence.Most people prefer justice to wealth.
I don't care for crumbs when someone less deserving next to me gets to lord over me.
I don't care for crumbs when someone less deserving next to me gets to lord over me.
07-12-2023, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
I don't believe you actually believe thisKilled a few million (many of whom had it coming). Saved billions. "Villain". I guess math really is hard for Americans. Sad! If you come at Stalin without any political bias or bullshyt and just look at the facts, he was the greatest leader to ever walk this Earth.
No amount of CIA funded bullshytting will ever erase the victory of the Soviet people over nazism or their incredible contributions to mathematics and science and the hope and aid that they brought to the oppressed and impoverished victims of imperialism all over this planet.
Their project lives on today with the CCP. The torch of Stalin burns on, carried by Xi Jinping, in spite of the US government's best efforts to extinguish it. Poverty will be eradicated. The world will be educated. You cannot stop them.
No amount of CIA funded bullshytting will ever erase the victory of the Soviet people over nazism or their incredible contributions to mathematics and science and the hope and aid that they brought to the oppressed and impoverished victims of imperialism all over this planet.
Their project lives on today with the CCP. The torch of Stalin burns on, carried by Xi Jinping, in spite of the US government's best efforts to extinguish it. Poverty will be eradicated. The world will be educated. You cannot stop them.
07-12-2023, 09:08 AM
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07-12-2023, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
exactly
07-12-2023, 10:27 AM
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07-12-2023, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
about you? no. sad though. definitely sadu mad tho
07-12-2023, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Stalin was a loser that planned on invading all of Europe but Hitler attacked him first before he could invade. And he reacted like a little bitch right afterwards. Then instead of being able to invade all of Europe, he was cucked by the Americans who now control almost all of Europe (his dream for communism) and his little “union” collapsed 40 years later.I don't believe you actually believe this
Imagine idolizing a loser that failed to achieve his dreams and who presided over a government based on a system only peasants with room temperature IQs and midwits could find compelling and that didn’t even last 100 years in practice.
He literally dedicated himself to a failed ideology that only 3rd world dirt people and hipster ***gots in college take seriously in the 21st century. He completely wasted his life.
This Joe Bidet guy—I bet if he somehow ever convinced a woman to allow him near her vagina (without paying) would abandon his hero worship of Stalin. It’s pretty obvious he just identifies with him because he’s also a loser that won’t turn his dreams into a reality.
Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices. - Saint Augustine
07-12-2023, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By cheerupemokid⏩
lold Stalin was the most successful leader in human history.Stalin was a loser that planned on invading all of Europe but Hitler attacked him first before he could invade. And he reacted like a little bitch right afterwards. Then instead of being able to invade all of Europe, he was cucked by the Americans who now control almost all of Europe (his dream for communism) and his little “union” collapsed 40 years later.
Imagine idolizing a loser that failed to achieve his dreams and who presided over a government based on a system only peasants with room temperature IQs and midwits could find compelling and that didn’t even last 100 years in practice.
He literally dedicated himself to a failed ideology that only 3rd world dirt people and hipster ***gots in college take seriously in the 21st century. He completely wasted his life.
This Joe Bidet guy—I bet if he somehow ever convinced a woman to allow him near her vagina (without paying) would abandon his hero worship of Stalin. It’s pretty obvious he just identifies with him because he’s also a loser that won’t turn his dreams into a reality.
Imagine idolizing a loser that failed to achieve his dreams and who presided over a government based on a system only peasants with room temperature IQs and midwits could find compelling and that didn’t even last 100 years in practice.
He literally dedicated himself to a failed ideology that only 3rd world dirt people and hipster ***gots in college take seriously in the 21st century. He completely wasted his life.
This Joe Bidet guy—I bet if he somehow ever convinced a woman to allow him near her vagina (without paying) would abandon his hero worship of Stalin. It’s pretty obvious he just identifies with him because he’s also a loser that won’t turn his dreams into a reality.
Not surprised by your low IQ comments tho. You've always been a fuktard. "This JoeBidet guy." Lmfao
07-12-2023, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted By cheerupemokid⏩
that's the thing - I have seen him defend things that you can tell he actually cares about and believes the cause. His defense of Stalin is empty and devoid of his usual emotional instability. he doesn't really worship Stalin, he just wants to illicit reactionsStalin was a loser that planned on invading all of Europe but Hitler attacked him first before he could invade. And he reacted like a little bitch right afterwards. Then instead of being able to invade all of Europe, he was cucked by the Americans who now control almost all of Europe (his dream for communism) and his little “union” collapsed 40 years later.
Imagine idolizing a loser that failed to achieve his dreams and who presided over a government based on a system only peasants with room temperature IQs and midwits could find compelling and that didn’t even last 100 years in practice.
He literally dedicated himself to a failed ideology that only 3rd world dirt people and hipster ***gots in college take seriously in the 21st century. He completely wasted his life.
This Joe Bidet guy—I bet if he somehow ever convinced a woman to allow him near her vagina (without paying) would abandon his hero worship of Stalin. It’s pretty obvious he just identifies with him because he’s also a loser that won’t turn his dreams into a reality.
Imagine idolizing a loser that failed to achieve his dreams and who presided over a government based on a system only peasants with room temperature IQs and midwits could find compelling and that didn’t even last 100 years in practice.
He literally dedicated himself to a failed ideology that only 3rd world dirt people and hipster ***gots in college take seriously in the 21st century. He completely wasted his life.
This Joe Bidet guy—I bet if he somehow ever convinced a woman to allow him near her vagina (without paying) would abandon his hero worship of Stalin. It’s pretty obvious he just identifies with him because he’s also a loser that won’t turn his dreams into a reality.
07-12-2023, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
The word is elicit. I do actually defend Stalin. I think he was based for his time. Would I have done everything he did? No. But he won, and that is what matters in the end. I am more libertarian than Stalin. I believe in human rights and civil liberties. Stalin didn't care much for LGBT rights, for example, or for due process. I do. But I agree with Stalin's mission and priorities. He had his finger on the important things. So does Xi. More importantly, I view Stalin as inspiring for his unwavering will and commitment to his beliefs. He really did save the world, whether you want to admit it or not.that's the thing - I have seen him defend things that you can tell he actually cares about and believes the cause. His defense of Stalin is empty and devoid of his usual emotional instability. he doesn't really worship Stalin, he just wants to illicit reactions
07-12-2023, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
well the word wasn't castedThe word is elicit. I do actually defend Stalin. I think he was based for his time. Would I have done everything he did? No. But he won, and that is what matters in the end.
and I am aware you defend Stalin - you just do it disingenuously
07-12-2023, 11:17 AM
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07-12-2023, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
Did I say that?Oh? Gosh I must be the only disingenuous poster on this board...
07-12-2023, 11:20 AM
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07-12-2023, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
Than what? The communists didn’t even overthrow the Tsarists. Lol. They were already overthrown.much better
And better for who? The millions of Kulaks (the productive peasants) killed? The ethnic and religious minorities who were repressed and send to Kazakhstan and Siberia and chit? The millions who died due to completely avoidable famine in Ukraine caused by collectivist state retardation?
You’ve got to be trolling.
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07-12-2023, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
great so glad we are in agreementDid I say you said that?
07-12-2023, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩
The Tsars were chit. The interrim govt was also chit. The Kulaks mostly had it coming. Productive my ass. They were nobles who owned huge swaths of land while everyone else was left to rot. The good ones turned over their chit for the Soviet vision. The bad ones got what they deserved. Yea it was messy, but stable. They ended ethnic strife and built nations for each group. Sorry the Russians didn't wait and let the nazis collaborate with muslims. You can cry about how inhumane it was, but the USSR rapidly industrialized and became ultra powerful. Oh the Ukraine famine was completely avoidable. Proof?Than what? The communists didn’t even overthrow the Tsarists. Lol. They were already overthrown.
And better for who? The millions of Kulaks (the productive peasants) killed? The ethnic and religious minorities who were repressed and send to Kazakhstan and Siberia and chit? The millions who died due to completely avoidable famine in Ukraine caused by collectivist state retardation?
You’ve got to be trolling.
And better for who? The millions of Kulaks (the productive peasants) killed? The ethnic and religious minorities who were repressed and send to Kazakhstan and Siberia and chit? The millions who died due to completely avoidable famine in Ukraine caused by collectivist state retardation?
You’ve got to be trolling.
07-12-2023, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
there was an admission so yesDid I say I agree?
07-12-2023, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
How did he save the "world?"The word is elicit. I do actually defend Stalin. I think he was based for his time. Would I have done everything he did? No. But he won, and that is what matters in the end. I am more libertarian than Stalin. I believe in human rights and civil liberties. Stalin didn't care much for LGBT rights, for example, or for due process. I do. But I agree with Stalin's mission and priorities. He had his finger on the important things. So does Xi. More importantly, I view Stalin as inspiring for his unwavering will and commitment to his beliefs. He really did save the world, whether you want to admit it or not.
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