but u will have lower chance of death, long covid and severe covid compared to the unvaxxed.

Let's just ignore all of the athletes dropping dead from heart issues coincidentally after getting vaxxed

thats why sane non mentally ill people also advise to wear mask ON TOP of being vaccinated.

but while the mentally ill diss the vaccine fo rnot stopping infections, they refuse to wear masks as well and laugh at the idea. this is why sane people believe the vaccine and mask refusers are mentally ill.

hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

This is why you're red, retard lol.

how should i know? i remember him saying that he didn't want them to get vaccinated. this is why i asked.

Not all of us are unhealthy and frail individuals like yourself......

We should still be wearing masks now???? **** sake, you ARE pathetic!!!! You're THAT guy that still wears one, Holy ****, that is sad, beyond sad......

daily reminder when there is a vaccine on the market that blocks infections, guess which group wont take it ? Yes, the same people refusing the current vaccine because it doesnt block infections enough.


(we all know its not bc of infections or whatever, its bc these people are mentally ill)

Stupid **** is probably the type that wouldn't have his kids over without proof of vaccination.

When that business works with the government so people are forced to take their pdoduct, that's not really capitalism.

Now, go roll up your sleeve, put on your mask, and schedule another booster shot, because the world needs you....... For something, probably not, you're in actuality a waste of resources.

I’ll let J.L.C. take this one. You know it’s bad when you’re making claims that even our forum’s biggest injection supporter realizes is bullsh!t,

Anyone who thinks/claims Covid vaccines don't work, is intentionally ignoring facts and statistics (reference, post 49 and 224).

In that context, how do you look at the data, which consistently shows Unvaccinated people are far more likely to become infected, hospitalized, and dead... and claim you have critical thinking skills?


https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-...9-cases-deaths

Roll up your sleeve boot-licker, it's time for your fourth booster shot.....

How did Biden "defeat" Covid? He's the moron who told the country tonot trust vaccines!. Then he took credit for the highly successful vaccines produced by Trump's Operation Warp Speed

Define “work”.


The original injections increased your risk of infection for about 2 weeks, then reduced your risk of infection for a few months…after which point protection quickly dropped. They also did not stop spread in any meaningful way. And as I already pointed out, the last round of boosters had about a 30% effectiveness of stopping the variant they were designed for. Even less for other variants. And that effectiveness also quickly waned(again after initially temporarilyincreasingrisk of infection). If a headache medicine has 30% efficacy rate would you say it works? If your gf’s birth control prevents pregnancy 30% of the time would you say it works?


And ive already repeatedly pointed out to you how vaccination status was miscalculated in hospitals. Also, most hospital patients recorded as Covid patients weren’t even there for Covid anayway.



So again, define “works” in a meaningful objective way. Perhaps it’s just a case of you and I having different views on what thresholds need to be met in order to say something works. In which case we can just agree to disagree. If you think the boosters work and want to get one in a few weeks then, again, by all means go right ahead.

But how are the Biden cultists supposed to know what to do? First he tells them NOT to trust vaccines (when it was a useful campaign stunt for his own personal gain), then a year later he's the angry old man, scolding anyone who actually listened to him and wasn't vaccinated. Now he's implying the vaccines didn't actually work, so a whole new series needs to be developed...

At a dramatically lower rate than the Unvaccinated... that's a factyou consistently ignore.

Stay in school boyos. This is the kind of logic and reasoning you end up with if you're too stupid to finish high school.

SMH...dumb phuking cultist...SMH

And when all the other false claims fail, just flip to a different false claim

Where are "all of these athletes", and how do the numbers compare to pre-2020?

Uh boomer, how many jabs were distributed under the orange moron? how many were distributed under Obama the Great's protoge?

Game Set Match boomer.

Stick to the one thing you're actually correct about, the effectiveness of the jabs and how stupid cultist are.

When your only response to facts and statistics that you don't like is to hide behind childish personal insults... it doesn't change the facts and statistics that you consistently lie about.

Holy hell, I've posted the statistics twice in this thread. Dramatically lower rates of infection, hospitalization, and death.

We’ve already been over this countless times, but it’s like you refuse to listen. We know that hospitals were miscalculating vaccination status of patients. That is a fact. We can argue over how common it was, but we also know that there was a controlled narrative to make the virus seem very dangerous(despite it being little to no threat for most people under 55) and to make the injections seem as safe and effective as possible(despite being caught in repeated lies about what it would do for recipients). They blatantly said they would count everyone as a Covid patient if they tested positive regardless of the reason for visiting. So if I went to the hospital for a broken arm and tested positive I would show up in your fancy numbers as an unvaccinated Covid patient…thereby showing “evidence” that the injections work. And while your numbers seem to show a drastic difference between the groups, the difference is 3 people per 100,000 vs 1/2 person per 100,000. That could easily be explained by sh!tty record keeping… particularly by sh!tyy record keeping carried out by people we know have a particular narrative they want to paint. So no, your chart doesn’t show they are “far more likely” to be hospitalized by Covid because there are tons of things that could explain that. Do they offer protection?? A little bit for a brief period of time. And that’s the original shot. The boosters were absolute trash. So just lmfao at your chart claiming someone who didn’t receive a vaccine is ELEVEN TIMES more likely to die than someone who received a booster with a 30% effectiveness rate at fighting a cold. At least we should be able to agree that part is absolute horse sh!t.







Cliffs - 3 out of 100,000 vs 1/2 out of 100,000 when lots of different factors could account for the differences, not the least of which is known poor tracking of vaccination status in hospitals

See post above. Also, if you can’t even tell me what threshold must be met to count as “working” then you may as well be spouting off stupid buzzwords like “safe and effective”.



And again, the boosters were absolute trash.

Wow, the partisan hack mentality is on full display

Vaccines wereDEVELOPEDunder the Trump administration. Production and distribution was already well underway before Biden took office. But suddenly now you want to give Biden credit for things that were already happening, while on any bad news topic 2 1/2 years later, you instantly revert toblame Trump!

On the day Biden took office, the US had already given 17,546,374 Covid vaccinations. Within ten days that number had doubled - and you claim it was all Biden?

At the time Biden took office, vaccine production timeline was 110 days. Which means any vaccines delivered within his first four months in office were started under the Trump administration... 282 million doses.

Boyo all of your claims revolve around "the data is wrong" or "we're being lied to."

If you have half a brain shouldn't you step back and wonder why in order for your hypothesis to be correct there has to be some nefarious issue with the data? You can't find data to back up your claims so you're left with nothing but to claim the actual data is fake.

You remind me of those folks who claim the FBI somehow made the deplorable cultist attack our capital. Like there were tons of FBI agents in full cultist gear egging on the thousands who attacked while ignoring that Trump called his deplorables to DC that day, Trump ginned them up real good with his constant crying and lying, Trump's sycophants and Trump himself said to "fight like hell", etc, and that Trump sent them marching to the capital. Trump did everything but throw the match on the grill loaded with charcoal and lighter fluid...but somehow it was an FBI syop?

Step away from the CT boyo. Almost always, facts are facts. If you refused the jab, your likelihood of dying or getting sick from covid increased 10 fold+. Those are facts as the boomer Nutso has posted.

Are there cases where hospitals counted someone as unvaccinated when they actually were vaccinated??



Also, if you have to inflate the numbers by testing every single person in the hospital regardless of reason for admittance and counting all positive tests as Covid patients then perhaps your claims should be evaluated. And that’s just one example out of many that show the very controlled drive to direct a very specific narrative.




But the other important thing is that if you look at the children who are hospitalized, many of them are hospitalized with COVID as opposed to because of COVID," Fauci continued. "And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."




Imagine a child goes in for a broken leg and tests positive for Covid. Obviously his parents aren’t dumb so they didn’t let him get the injections. That data would then support the narrative that Covid injections work because he is an unvaccinated Covid patient in the hospital. Just lol.

Of course in any massive dataset there will be errors. Your entire hypothesis relies on the data being wrong or made up. Think about that boyo.

And everyone knows children are barely at risk. We can discuss whether kids needed to be vaccinated, that's fine and reasonable, but to say that the vaccines didn't dramatically reduce severe illness and death is nothing but a CT position boyo.