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youre far too triggered by tinder....

Yes, yes, I've read plenty on sociopaths and high functioning sociopaths in the past. Whether I'm a sociopath or just an INTJ (with an extremely accentuated T over F trait), I don't really know. I can and do feel love for my wife though, and I also have a great (real) connection with a few of the women I see on the side and very much enjoy their company beyond just sex.So basically many high functioning sociopaths are wealthy and successful, the highly respected leaders and thinkers of society doing things like saving lives (ie. surgeons) as well as making people feel amazing about themselves and building charities etc. Basically the people doing some of the most good in the world and effecting the most amount of people in society positively... Failing to see the problem with this?

They're also very successful in dating and sex and can sweep their partners up in a whirlwind of both loving emotions and lust... Not only that but they're empty inside as you said, and if they're empty inside they don't have the capacity to feel love in return or even the ability to feel good about themselves for everything they're doing for their romantic partners or society at large.

So if someone is doing so much good, and effecting people in so many positive ways, making them feel seen and special and good about themselves, and creating so many positive emotions in others, all while being totally incapable of feeling emotions themselves or even having the capacity to feel happy about all the good they are doing for the world, wouldn't you call these people truly selfless heroes?

Furthermore don't you think that advice on becoming more like one of these people would be extremely valuable to someone looking to improve themselves? Don't you also think that society would greatly benefit from having MORE people just like this?

If you had cancer would you prefer someone to empathize with you, hug you, cry alongside you and tell you everything's going to be ok while you die. Or would you want a cold, calculated, intelligent individual with the knowledge, expertise and stomach to slice you open and do what needs to be done to save your life who's judgement isn't being clouded in that moment with empathetic feelings?This is a great post, and you are absolutely right, this is my intention.Interestingly it may be that Sydney is better than NYC in terms of getting very hot girls (ie. quality over quantity). I don't know for sure but it's a theory of mine that I've contemplated.

What I mean is, it might be the case that NYC is very good for the mid end of the market, but actually gets worse once you get to girls in the 8+ range... If this is indeed the case I suspect it's because the wealth distribution in Australia is much more even than in the US. So the competition in the middle of the market is alot tougher here, while the competition at the top end of the market is much tougher there (essentially we have more wealthy people on average, but you guys have much more extremely wealthy people, on average).

To put it another way, the US has way more losers and dropkicks that no woman would ever want to date than Australia, but your highest value guys are 10x higher value than our highest value guys. A chick who's a 7 will probably be able to land a better guy longer term in Sydney, but a girl who's a 10 will probably be able to land a way better guy in NYC than she can land in Sydney... Just a thought.

I don't know for sure if this theory is correct, but I can say that I didn't sleep with any 8+'s in NYC, only 6-7's, however I really only dated girls there for a bit over a week and was pretty much just dtf pitching. The rest of the time I was with my wife and promised her I wouldn't chase skirt while we were enjoying our vacation time together, only when she was on her tour and I was alone. I'd really need to be dating there for weeks to months, as it can sometimes take that long to secure a very hot girl as a regular here. So I'd really need to move there for several months and actually take women out on proper dates etc. as opposed to just screening for dtf girls and inviting them straight over which is mostly what I did while I was there.

Will report back if any success.

speaking of BRB, am I the only one who thinks he reminds me of Dennis Reynolds from sunny in philidelphia? no offense lol

In other unrelated news, i finally benchmark my 50th post here.

BRB has posted pics of himself before. I can’t rememebr how he looks though.

But if he manipulated the algorithm, of course he would get a lot of matches. Back in 2014 you could get 100+ matches a day. If I remember correctly he abused the algorithm to give him those same results while everyone was throttled.

I'm still trying to figure out how to play the SnapChat game. Was just chatting with a hot 20 year old on Tinder (but definitely acts like a ditsy, immature 20 year old as well), and she asked for my SC after a few back and forth messages. Gave it to her, and she added me. She sent me a selfie, so I responded with one.

Really no idea how the hell things are supposed to work from here. SC texts seem stupid to me because they disappear and I can't go back and look at them. Do we just chat using SC texts, do I just ask for her number through there and proceed like normal, or what? This whole thing is foreign to me, and don't know how to work it with young girls.

I feel like calling you a retard for not telling us the tecnique you used

Pancake and spade I'll reply to your posts when I get a chance. Appreciate your thoughts. Impressed with those screens pc. Angry at what BRB has posted.

BRB - WTF? You in a bad mood? Totally unjustifiable attack on me. Should be ashamed of yourself... I've always been polite with everyone in here including you.Let's use your language. WRONG... NOT frauding, just changed colour/lighting a bit on a basic phone app but makes me look 10x better.
Looks troll? WRONG... Looks are one part of it. As I've said on here before, I see hot women all the time with average even ugly guys. Most of that is people who meet in the real world at work, college etc. Online looks are more important though as girls have high expectations from good photos. It's getting the balance between the two right. Bad photos lead nowhere. As someone with pretty good all round game after 15 yrs experience, I know for a fact that the majority of those bad meets were due to looks. Doesn't mean mean I don't bang the same girls in a different situation. At a club, meeting some other place etc. Just makes life harder.I don't want detailed reports. Just something like spade would say: First 10 mins maybe small talk, work, interests. After 15 mins well under way with light kino - talking moved on to sex talk now? or just something more fun and interesting than small talk. 30 mins in kissing? hand up skirts etc? It's the transition from small talk and being total strangers to other talk and heating things up that often feels a little awkward to me. 8/10 places I go have to sit opposite each other as 1. they're more comfortable like that with a stranger at the beginning and 2. most bars set up like that here. So have to walk round to the other side to get close which isn't great.I'm not sway darling. Again, as said before, he's a troll with serious issues who had 1000s of posts on those vile anti sites. But pancake already politely answered this, thanks.Pretty arrogant aren't you? The reason I first made a couple of posts on this board was that I saw people like liftyousay and spade posting photos of girls they'd fuked. These people seemed normal guys rather than weirdo puas that had some proof that they were seeing a lot of girls from these apps. I was interested in sharing a couple of thoughts and asking some questions. You come across as a very strange computer geek pua that's read all the books probably from RJ on. Read some BD and thinks he knows everthing. YOU DON'T.

Actually shows how little you know about women apart from a small group of aussie basic bitches. I've also read all that stuff, but know women in the real world, lived with loads of them when younger for 5 years. 5 in a house. You could certainly line dates up but overall the young college girls around here won't be interested in your status and money and fake Rolex. Confidence and adventurous sex sure. A Christian Grey (dominant, good looking and sexually adventurous) could be a school teacher in the real world and women would like him. "Christian Grey was super rich blah blah with no friends" Do YOU have NO friends brb?

It's a shame you attacked me and we've had to have these words as a lot of what you do is very similar to me. A real shame...

nothing fancy.. you basically have your middle and ring fingers inside them, hooking up towards the gspot, while using your thumb to rub their clit, doing everything simultaneously. oh and my dink may or may not have also been in her mouth , while i was doing that, too, with my other hand pinching her nipples, as she lay on her back, my knees next to her head.

f'd again last night, learned more about her, and like many girls of before, she has a lot of issues with bouts of depression/anxiety and lots of stress, and my interest has now dropped. might relegate her to once a month, like i relegate this other bartender chick to once every 2-3 months.

It’s simply about doing what works. Girls wear makeup, push up bras, tights to visually stimulate guys. He optomizes his approach, escalation, and behavior to mentally stimulate girls. Girls are simply attracted to mental stimulation and guys with great game provide this stimulation. Men who instantly drop panties and instantly get girls wet usually have a very calculated and scientific approach to game, but most people never realize b/c you don’t talk to a chick about how predictable they really are. BRB is a chick slayer in the top 5% of men, so his game is naturally calculated. I fail to see the “shame” you describe? The girls are happy/attracted and he fufills his sexual appetite. It’s a win win situation. If your arguing that he is being deceiving, it is not more deceiving than makeup or push-up bras. You say he is a “computer geek pickup pua that's read all the books probably from RJ on,” but he isn’t just theory. He backs it up with proof shown all over the misc. I get that somethings he says seem unnatural and I don’t agree with everything he says, but try following some of his advice for a little bit. It will either work and soon become natural or fail and you can figure something else out. He is just here to help the many guys with girl problems, there is no reason to call him names and shame him.

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Top 5% of players that girls absolutely love, approach game in a calculated way like BRB.

This isn't unusual, it's just never talked about.

BRB is helping miscers with effective game to turn on women

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What the hell are you talking about? I see now why you do so badly on dates... Perhaps you need someone like silencespeaks to hug you and tell you everything is going to be ok.If most girls you are meeting are telling you that you look nothing like your pics, and accusing you of frauding after the date, then you're frauding, simple, and nothing we tell you will fix the bad reactions you are getting on dates. If this isn't the case, and your photos are a true representation of you, just in the best light possible, then it means you suck at dates and that's why you're getting the bad reactions. It has to be one or the other.Once you meet them in real life it's no longer online, this is the point in the interaction where you are failing. So as I just said, either a) you are frauding your pics online or b) you suck with women in real life. There is NO OTHER explanation. I don't understand why I have to keep having these arguments with people. It was the same with Pancake, the guy just couldn't accept that he was useless on dates, just like you and even had the same photo/looks arguments, it's always the same story with you guys.

In the end he FINALLY realized he SUCKED on dates. It took multiple date recordings from him and tearing them apart line by line and in turn recordings from me showing how a date SHOULD go before he finally accepted this. When he did, his results changed.

However if girls are telling you that you are frauding your pics, then you are frauding your pics and you need to fix this, because no amount of help with your dates is going to fix things if you show up and she's expecting Brad Pitt and instead she gets Danny Devito.Oh, let me just go and dig all that information up for you so I can help yet another ingrate. All of these questions have been answered before in my posts here, all of them, in detail, but you want it all handed to you on a silver platter.Sorry I forgot I was dealing with a fragile snowflake, I'll be more polite in future.Are you kidding? I have a wife, we've been together over 10 years and lived together for several, and I have and have had numerous side girls over the years, all of them knowing about my situation and one another and all without too much drama. You think this is possible to achieve while knowing very little about women?

Women want confidence and adventurous sex, but they want it in a man who is high SMV (at least the highest they can reasonably get), This means looks, money, status. My game isn't flashing around a fake rolex, if you think it is, you've missed the point. My game is first establishing that I am the high SMV man they are looking for, that side of things is a small fraction of it all, it's just what comes FIRST, which is why you might think it's the most prominent, because without that I wouldn't get the chance to meet them in person and be the sexual, dominant, and confident man they want to phuck (which is what I spend the other 90% of my time representing, especially in person)

'Aussie basic bitches!?', in actual fact it's the 'Aussie basic bitches' that I find the absolute hardest to get, very few of the women I get with fall into this category, most of those types just date whatever roided up, tatted up meat head is closest. Which is a shame because some of these type of girls are very hot, horrible personalities though...If you can't handle a critical post, then forget it, you're not cut out for this. Best to stick to DTF pitching 5's or whatever. Dating nowadays is war, the levels of competition and mate guarding extremes I have witnessed first hand from other men is insane. Guys doing things like hacking a girls phone and installing spy apps to keep track of them, responding to my texts as if they are her to try and destroy my chances, threats to both her and me, acts of violence and harassment etc. the sexual market is cut throat (sometimes literally, a guy here got his throat sliced open while on a first tinder date by her ex lover, he came up behind him on the date and made sure it was their first and last date), you are competing with men 10x as ruthless as myself, and the hotter the girl, the more true this becomes.

This sounds like pretty much every relationship. You're divorced no? People have emotional connections, and those emotions go away (it's called pair bonding, and these feelings don't last forever, for anyone, as you discovered). So what's the difference? Some people pair bond, and break up, others never pair bond, and break up, with some couples one person pair bonds, and the other does not... and then they break up.

The number of relationships that last until death are in the minority so what does it matter?The concept of marriage is transactional, open or not. In fact the concept of any relationship is transactional, whether there are feelings involved or not. You believe in Disney style romance and love, it's typical among females, many guys believe in it too, it doesn't exist. You loved your ex husband when you married him and thought he was 'the one', you thought you'd spend the rest of your lives together... now, you're here. Your marriage was as transactional as mine, and everyone elses.Any woman, at her core, will accept an open marriage, many women, one man, is the nautral order of things, unfortunately. The women that won't are the ones that have been too brainwashed by society and the prevailing culture, they are also usually the women that are the most unhappy because they are fighting against their own nature. It's why your marriage didn't work, no amount of societal brainwashing and feel good fantasy can beat basic human biology.

what went wrong here? this is after converting to text from MeetMe (we compared who has the nicer butt, etc - logs disappeared?)



on tinder:

match with someone and i dont message for 2 days

Me: Have you figured it out yet?
Her: What is 'it'?
Me: Where your taking me to dinner: My choices are: 1) [super expensive restaurant name] 2) [super expensive restaurant name] 3) shake shack
Her: Lol nice

then i come back from work and its an un-match??

You totally missed what I was saying. I've posted in this thread for 18 months and read it from the beginning years ago. I have no problem with how brb gets girls. We've spoken a number of times. He uses standard pua techniques that I use. I know all he does and more. Been picking up girls for 15 yrs. Our approach is similar though he's more into status from money. Which isn't that important.

I called him out for being rude, arrogant and trying to talk down to me like he knows better than everyone else. He doesn't. He uses standard stuff from other people. Combine that with being reasonably good looking and you can get results.

That's what I was taking issue with not his pu techniques. I don't see how you missed it?? No one else is being rude. Spade may not agree with all I say but he's not calling me sway and a looks troll etc.

And finally how do you know he's in the top 5%. Do you see him fuk these girls, have photos, video? NO? Then no proof. And further why do you care? Why are you trying to convince people you've never met that another guy you've never met and don't know is a top 5% chick slayer?

BRBMakingMoney has the best understanding of online game and the sexual marketplace of any guy I know of in the community, including PUAs that make a living from their products.

I have seen the quality and quantity he pulls in spite of insane logistical and location challenges and it is above his looks level. Better than any guy in this thread in the last few years.

Most guys who work hard to be the best operate with a certain level of ego, coldness, and paranoia. See: Michael Jordan.

Now, sure, the way that he communicates has often rubbed me the wrong way, because I pride myself on being polite and courteous to everyone, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you take the good with the bad. Different people have different personalities and communication styles.

strong username to thread content correlation

Went to test out BRB's DHV line and hook with a cold opener for the hell of it. What do you know, it works!

https://imgur.com/a/jiorD

I can assure you I have many more failed chat logs coming. I will prolly match spades successes with failures 1:1. Looking forward to feedback

This isn't true. I see girls from real life. Banged over 100 lifetime, which is more than many celebs. Just having a bad run on these apps atm, which has got worse the last couple of years as I've started to look a lot older.Too far, over 2hrs. Girls here will often not travel 10 miles, even when they're horny. Too much effort for them.Slimmer than you at the top, arms etc. Don't look bigger in photos. I'm not big into workouts, just some weighted push ups, heavy dumbells etc. Being a bit bigger up top would help but I put on muscle very slow so that's a long term thing, but body is overstated on here as a bb forum.You often have sex talk in your texts before meeting. One mentioned bring condoms. Generally it's best to leave that to when you meet as can scare bishes off, but you seem to make it work.

I always text very little and prefer copy paste scripted openers rather than tailoring to each girl. This used to be the same for brb, don't know if he's changed now. Also like to bang on first date as feel these women have so many choices and such standards even if they're very ordinary that makes a 2nd date rare, even if you do everything spot on.

I'm interested in seeing more screens and what openers you're using atm. Same with brb interested in seeing how he opens the average cute girl rather than a model. Just want some new ideas. Met over 200 from these apps, so no cuck.A coat. Nice piece, gun metal grey, but didn't work on my frame. Too bulky, not the right fit. Made me look like a 50 yr old guy. On another guy would look good.Not sure where this comes from as I only talk about tinder/dates on here. If it was from the comments about where I'm living atm that's because I'm in a small place for a little while that has a completely different vibe to a larger town/city. Women use these app for serious dating and you can't go as fast with them. But 2 things - 1. Most others seem to be like that on here, AP, BRB, Lift etc and 2. I think that personality is fine for being attractive to girls. They hate whiny betas, geeks, losers etc.

Some nice stuff in those screens. Was the "4th bullet" and "stalking" messages openers?

This is the text game that works on Tinder in 2018.

Pretty funny that most guys in this thread seem to be stuck on sending corny **** from 2014.

what the duck god bless america

I've had a pretty good week so far with my #3, #4 and #5 on the year. 3 and 4 were second dates, but both willing to do it on the first (I was just not in a position to do it at the time), and 5 was last night on a first date. How I got around to it was different for each girl. It's definitely possible to just copy+paste and run a script, and you can get laid that way, but you've got to be prepared to lose a ton along the way. Your success rate will be way higher if you customize. In my opinion at least, that leads to less overall time wasted and more satisfaction with your own game.

#3 I didn't have any sex talk with at all prior to the date, and very little communication. We had a good time at the first bar, and when we left, I just placed my hand around her back as we walked. She was receptive, and after a few mins, I just grabbed her and kissed her on the street. We went to a comedy show, and I invited her back to mine after and she agreed. We just made and I took her shirt off, but told her I couldn't have sex with her that night. A week later, I went to hers for a movie as a second date and it happened then.

#4 I was just giving a follow-up text to keep her warm before finding time to actually meet her. Happened to catch her out when she was a bit drunk. She mentioned sex, which opened the door for that conversation. We got into very intense, full on sexting over the next few days. She's a very kinky girl. By the time we actually found time to meet up, she came straight over with no "date." As soon as she got in the door, I grabbed her and threw her against the wall to make out with her, and the rest took care of itself.





#5 We had been chatting pretty regularly via text for about a week, with all just normal convo. She was giving off very sweet/innocent vibes, so I wasn't sure if I could jump right into dirty talk without scaring her off. I dropped a couple hints of being flirty to see if she would bite so that I could steer the conversation to sex. She did, and I did. By the time we actually went out on our date last night, it was basically guaranteed unless the date went brutal. We had a few drinks, then went back to her place.

over the past couple of days i've had maybe 3-4 girls i was talking to on tinder go NC on me and stop replying out of the blue

they were being super responsive initially (often replying within minutes), laughing at my jokes/remarks, etc. but after some back and forth they all seemingly went NC simultaneously

i will admit my text game is pretty chit but still, i went from potentially having at least two dates lined up to none at all

women...how do they work?

Brahs Whats the general consensus on the cheesy misc opening pick up lines? Do they still work?? I've tried a few but the girls didn't respond well so I'm looking at good openers for 2018...

Probably waited too long to ask them out.

Yea, they still work.

But it's also about your vibe. I have a really funny/cheesy bio. So I get matches with girls who like that humor, and then they expect the same type of messages.

I've used some of the misc openers but they didn't respond it's been like 5-6 hours, does it take that long for them to respond to the opener or am I just screwed in regards to this lol. I get matches not a problem but converting that to something meaningful I'm struggling with hardcore brahs.

the problem is that at least one of those girls went NC right after i asked her out to a drink, even though our previous conversation was going really well.