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post 1656410633 02-18-2022, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
Clearly they were somehow affected by the federal mandates, the protest against federal mandates kind of proves that.

But some people who try to use Penn and Teller levels of misdirection keep saying “no no, I need you to look over there”
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...y-15-2022.html

"On November 19, 2021, we announced that as of January 15, 2022, certain categories of travellers who are currently exempt from entry requirements, will only be allowed to enter the country if they are fully vaccinated with one of the vaccines approved for entry into Canada.

These groups include several essential service providers, including truck drivers. Let us be clear: This has not changed. The information shared yesterday was provided in error. Our teams have been in touch with industry representatives to ensure they have the correct information.

ACanadian truck driverwho is not fully vaccinatedcan't be denied entry into Canada—Canadian citizens, persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act and permanent residents may enter Canada by right."
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Damn.

JLC and Woofie taking up permanent residence in this thread.

Y’all need to get out some.
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post 1656410823 02-18-2022, 08:19 AM
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Unfortunately they were the only ones with testicles to get together a big enough group to protest this since the beginning.
It just so happens they are breaking a few,harmless laws
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
This is exactly the issue.

It was misguided, or a ruse, from the beginning.
For someone who claims that citizens were affected in the area of the protest means that citizens were the target, and for someone who claims that because businesses were affected in the area of the protest means that businesses were the target, it should be no surprise that truckers who were affected by federal mandates might feel the need to fight back against being targeted.

If citizens and businesses should have the right to fight back against being targeted, the truckers (who are comprised of citizens and businesses) have this same right, no?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...y-15-2022.html

"On November 19, 2021, we announced that as of January 15, 2022, certain categories of travellers who are currently exempt from entry requirements, will only be allowed to enter the country if they are fully vaccinated with one of the vaccines approved for entry into Canada.

These groups include several essential service providers, including truck drivers. Let us be clear: This has not changed. The information shared yesterday was provided in error. Our teams have been in touch with industry representatives to ensure they have the correct information.

ACanadian truck driverwho is not fully vaccinatedcan't be denied entry into Canada—Canadian citizens, persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act and permanent residents may enter Canada by right."
As announced in November and as we've communicated with the industry recently, starting January 15, unvaccinated Canadian truck drivers entering Canada will need to meet requirements for pre-entry, arrival and Day 8 testing, as well as quarantine requirements.
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
For someone who claims that citizens were affected in the area of the protest means that citizens were the target, and for someone who claims that because businesses were affected in the area of the protest means that businesses were the target, it should be no surprise that truckers who were affected by federal mandates might feel the need to fight back against being targeted.

If citizens and businesses should have the right to fight back against being targeted, the truckers (who are comprised of citizens and businesses) have this same right, no?
Where did I say citizens have a right to fight back against "protesters"? It was another poster who claimed harassment and assault of people who vote differently is democratic.

The mandate:
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...y-15-2022.html

"On November 19, 2021, we announced that as of January 15, 2022, certain categories of travellers who are currently exempt from entry requirements, will only be allowed to enter the country if they are fully vaccinated with one of the vaccines approved for entry into Canada.

These groups include several essential service providers, including truck drivers. Let us be clear: This has not changed. The information shared yesterday was provided in error. Our teams have been in touch with industry representatives to ensure they have the correct information.

ACanadian truck driverwho is not fully vaccinatedcan't be denied entry into Canada—Canadian citizens, persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act and permanent residents may enter Canada by right."
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
As announced in November and as we've communicated with the industry recently, starting January 15, unvaccinated Canadian truck drivers entering Canada will need to meet requirements for pre-entry, arrival and Day 8 testing, as well as quarantine requirements.
You don’t see how asymptomatic, negative tested truckers who used to cross the border 8 times a month and can now only do so 3 at best are affected?
post 1656411203 02-18-2022, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
As announced in November and as we've communicated with the industry recently, starting January 15, unvaccinated Canadian truck drivers entering Canada will need to meet requirements for pre-entry, arrival and Day 8 testing, as well as quarantine requirements.
Where were they driving to if not the US, where they were not permitted entry.

"A Canadian truck driverwho is not fully vaccinatedcan't be denied entry into Canada—Canadian citizens, persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act and permanent residents may enter Canada by right.

As announced in November and as we've communicated with the industry recently, starting January 15, unvaccinated Canadian truck drivers entering Canada will need to meet requirements for pre-entry, arrival and Day 8 testing, as well as quarantine requirements.

The final decision regarding entry and quarantine is made by a government representative at the port of entry, based on the information presented to them at the time.

Any individual who is symptomatic upon arrival to Canada will be directed to a Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) official and will be directed to isolate for 10 days from the time they enter Canada."
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This is fuked up. These cops are fking gutless
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Massive amounts of arrests happening now, but the protestors are still setting up the sound system lol. Gotta respect the balls.

Trucks being towed:https://imgur.com/gallery/cY4LaAw
Just a bunch of transport trucks occupying a city honking. You just LOVE to see it.
I think anyone who had to deal with it directly would have a very different opinion. Very easy to sit in another city and go "that's awesome". I invite you to have a friend sit outside your house and honk a horn for even twelve hours overnight - in the name of "freedom" - and not want to murder them.
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I'm so glad to see that other countries are starting to join in.

I have a lot to lose if thing get very bad and the market collapses but for the cause of defending freedom to protest, I am willing to pay the price.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
Massive amounts of arrests happening now, but the protestors are still setting up the sound system lol. Gotta respect the balls.

Trucks being towed:https://imgur.com/gallery/cY4LaAw



I think anyone who had to deal with it directly would have a very different opinion. Very easy to sit in another city and go "that's awesome". I invite you to have a friend sit outside your house and honk a horn for even twelve hours overnight - in the name of "freedom" - and not want to murder them.
liberal Canadians are 10 ply.

do you need therapy now for your PTSD from them horn honks?
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
liberal Canadians are 10 ply.

do you need therapy now for your PTSD from them horn honks?
I don't live near it, I just have no tolerance for people harrassing other bystanders in the name of their own "freedom". Peaceful protest would be gathering on the hill and parking vehicles away from residents, which they could have easily done but chose not to. They had an entire baseball stadium parking lot at their disposal to gather and then head to protest and an entire parkway away from homes to park their vehicles. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes - which is what a ton of people are going to get as a massive reality check.

This is the intelligence level of some protestors:
post 1656412813 02-18-2022, 08:51 AM
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Its over brahs


If u guys want a decent stream


https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/mobile/vid...stId=1.5752264

We fought well, be proud everyone that helped out
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how about thinking about the guy who has to push the horn for 12 hours straight? their poor hands, do they work shifts/rotate? are people being provided ample break time?
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Originally Posted By Pown
Its over brahs


If u guys want a decent stream


https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/mobile/vid...stId=1.5752264

We fought well, be proud everyone that helped out
Here's a stream from on top of one of the trucks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml1g...iveFromTheShed
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They will have to permanently fence off Ottawa after this, unless the mandates all disappear.

People will come back with different strategies until Canadians win.



turdeau is finished, especially after his bigoted comments 2 days ago
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
I don't live near it, I just have no tolerance for people harrassing other bystanders in the name of their own "freedom". Peaceful protest would be gathering on the hill and parking vehicles away from residents, which they could have easily done but chose not to. They had an entire baseball stadium parking lot at their disposal to gather and then head to protest and an entire parkway away from homes to park their vehicles. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes - which is what a ton of people are going to get as a massive reality check.

This is the intelligence level of some protestors:
Residents should suck it up, take one for the team and stop crying.

Also the onus is on the government. If they would have ended the mandates immediately the truckers would have left. So the complaining is misdirected. If the residents want to complain they should complain to the government or better yet join the protest.

Our forefathers fought in wars for our freedoms and they want to complain about some truckers honking for our freedom. Give me a fuking break. Again suck it up, get the sand out of your vagina and take one for the team.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
Residents should suck it up, take one for the team and stop crying.

Also the onus is on the government. If they ended the mandates immediately the truckers would have left. So the complaining is misdirected. If the residents want to complain they should complain to the government or better yet join the protest.

Our forefathers fought in wars for our freedoms and they want to complain about some truckers honking for our freedom. Give me a fuking break. Again suck it up, get the sand out of your vagina and take one for the team.
The list of demands grew well past mandates.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The list of demands grew well past mandates.
Good.
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
They will have to permanently fence off Ottawa after this, unless the mandates all disappear.

People will come back with different strategies until Canadians win.



turdeau is finished, especially after his bigoted comments 2 days ago
Trudeau will surpass any Con leader if they aren't centrist.

Would you like to ban bet on this?
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
For someone who claims that citizens were affected in the area of the protest means that citizens were the target, and for someone who claims that because businesses were affected in the area of the protest means that businesses were the target, it should be no surprise that truckers who were affected by federal mandates might feel the need to fight back against being targeted.

If citizens and businesses should have the right to fight back against being targeted, the truckers (who are comprised of citizens and businesses) have this same right, no?
Most of the time you make sense, but this here is some pretzel logic.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Where were they driving to if not the US, where they were not permitted entry.

"A Canadian truck driverwho is not fully vaccinatedcan't be denied entry into Canada—Canadian citizens, persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act and permanent residents may enter Canada by right.

As announced in November and as we've communicated with the industry recently, starting January 15, unvaccinated Canadian truck drivers entering Canada will need to meet requirements for pre-entry, arrival and Day 8 testing, as well as quarantine requirements.

The final decision regarding entry and quarantine is made by a government representative at the port of entry, based on the information presented to them at the time.

Any individual who is symptomatic upon arrival to Canada will be directed to a Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) official and will be directed to isolate for 10 days from the time they enter Canada."
What I posted was from the federal governments mandate on truckers. As it outlines procedures for truckers returning from the US, it represents Canada’s mandate regardless of the US’s…meaning these are the rules for truckers period.

It states that unvaxxed truckers will have to quarantine for 8 days upon return regardless of negative test. That will sideline truckers disallowing their odometers to roll, thereby decreasing their earnings. That is what Canada has determined REGARDLESS OF US LAW. If you don’t see how this affects them, you are choosing not to see it.

It also allows vaccinated truckers to freely enter untested. Vaccinated therefore possibly asymptomatic, and potentially infectious. That is a danger to the public, and also clearly demonstrates a double standard. Everyone should be fine to proceed with just having a negative test. If you can’t see how the public aren’t affected by this as well, and felt compelled to join in, then you are choosing to not see it.
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Originally Posted By NewO35
Most of the time you make sense, but this here is some pretzel logic.
Thank you, precisely what I was trying to demonstrate. I was making my point using JLCs logic…I am glad everyone can see it is “pretzel logic”
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
I don't live near it, I just have no tolerance for people harrassing other bystanders in the name of their own "freedom". Peaceful protest would be gathering on the hill and parking vehicles away from residents, which they could have easily done but chose not to. They had an entire baseball stadium parking lot at their disposal to gather and then head to protest and an entire parkway away from homes to park their vehicles. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes - which is what a ton of people are going to get as a massive reality check.

This is the intelligence level of some protestors:
so just hearing about honking horns has given you PTSD.

like i said.
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Originally Posted By Bracket199
Trudeau will surpass any Con leader if they aren't centrist.

Would you like to ban bet on this?
Why is your avi Justin Trudeau?
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
Why is your avi Justin Trudeau?
It’s actually him lol
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
It’s actually him lol
That's fuked.
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
What I posted was from the federal governments mandate on truckers. As it outlines procedures for truckers returning from the US, it represents Canada’s mandate regardless of the US’s…meaning these are the rules for truckers period.

It states that unvaxxed truckers will have to quarantine for 8 days upon return regardless of negative test. That will sideline truckers disallowing their odometers to roll, thereby decreasing their earnings. That is what Canada has determined REGARDLESS OF US LAW. If you don’t see how this affects them, you are choosing not to see it.

It also allows vaccinated truckers to freely enter untested. Vaccinated therefore possibly asymptomatic, and potentially infectious. That is a danger to the public, and also clearly demonstrates a double standard. Everyone should be fine to proceed with just having a negative test. If you can’t see how the public aren’t affected by this as well, and felt compelled to join in, then you are choosing to not see it.
It states it's up to the agent at the border crossing.

They should have been protesting in Washington. But, they couldn't enter the US, so choose what they perceived as a softer target.
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