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06-07-2026, 08:17 AM
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Donnie Blumpf said he never promised no new wars
Where did you idiots come up this stuff?
He said why would I build up a military not to go to war?
Dead srs.
“First of all, I didn’t guarantee no war. Why would I have built the strongest military in the world?” Trump added.
https://www.tampafp.com/trump-denies-breaking-peace-pledge-vows-to-blow-the-hell-out-of-iran-if-nuclear-deal-fails/
He said why would I build up a military not to go to war?
Dead srs.
“First of all, I didn’t guarantee no war. Why would I have built the strongest military in the world?” Trump added.
https://www.tampafp.com/trump-denies-breaking-peace-pledge-vows-to-blow-the-hell-out-of-iran-if-nuclear-deal-fails/
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06-07-2026, 08:30 AM
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Inaugural Address (January 20, 2025)
"We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end and, perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into. My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier." Trump
inb4 Trumpers cope with Iran isn't a war
"We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end and, perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into. My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier." Trump
inb4 Trumpers cope with Iran isn't a war
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06-07-2026, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
Gotta be dementia.
Inaugural Address (January 20, 2025)
"We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end and, perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into. My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier." Trump
inb4 Trumpers cope with Iran isn't a war
"We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end and, perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into. My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier." Trump
inb4 Trumpers cope with Iran isn't a war
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06-07-2026, 08:46 AM
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06-07-2026, 09:33 AM
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06-07-2026, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
Technically, Congress hasn't declared war. ;)
Inaugural Address (January 20, 2025)
"We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end and, perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into. My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier." Trump
inb4 Trumpers cope with Iran isn't a war
"We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end and, perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into. My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier." Trump
inb4 Trumpers cope with Iran isn't a war
06-07-2026, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
That's one way of looking at it lmao
Technically, Congress hasn't declared war. ;)
Just a little excursion.
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06-07-2026, 10:08 AM
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06-07-2026, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Gimmie a min- as soon as I get time ill top that - I'm trying to work on a better subscriber number - it will be hard to negotiate a better aipac contract with this low number.
That's one way of looking at it lmao
Just a little excursion.
Just a little excursion.
06-07-2026, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
It's more than just that...
Technically, Congress hasn't declared war. ;)
Trump hasn't started a war with at least 193 nations
Trump has been the best peacemaker president in the modern era.
This term alone....
• Israel–Hamas: Facilitated or supported a ceasefire and hostage/prisoner exchange that paused major fighting in gaza and secured the release of remaining living Israeli hostages
• India–Pakistan: Asserted a role in de-escalating tensions (often associated to Kashmir).
• Rwanda-democratic republic of congo (DRC): Hosted and facilitated a peace agreement signed in Washington addressing long-running conflict involving militias.
• Armenia–Azerbaijan: Brokered or hosted a framework peace agreement addressing the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute and related tensions (one of the clearer cases of proactive U.S. involvement).
• Egypt–Ethiopia: Claimed resolution of the major dispute over the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) on the Nile. This was a high-stakes diplomatic/economic conflict rather than active armed warfare.
• Serbia–Kosovo: helped orchestrate progress toward normalization or peace (building on earlier first-term efforts)
• Thailand–Cambodia
Etc
Not to mention freeing the people of Venezuela from tyranny, as celebrated and thanked by last years Nobel peace prize winner.
Even if you consider the nuclear disarmament security operation in Iran a war....
That still leaves Trump with a .5% of countries at war with rate- one of the lowest in modern times.
06-07-2026, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I've been trying to tell people this for decades. The number of absolutely retarded things Donald Trump hasn't done is magnitudes greater than the number of absolutely retarded things he has done. I can't do the math but I can tell you with certainty that that's a huge difference.
It's more than just that...
Trump hasn't started a war with at least 193 nations
Trump has been the best peacemaker president in the modern era.
This term alone....
• Israel–Hamas: Facilitated or supported a ceasefire and hostage/prisoner exchange that paused major fighting in gaza and secured the release of remaining living Israeli hostages
• India–Pakistan: Asserted a role in de-escalating tensions (often associated to Kashmir).
• Rwanda-democratic republic of congo (DRC): Hosted and facilitated a peace agreement signed in Washington addressing long-running conflict involving militias.
• Armenia–Azerbaijan: Brokered or hosted a framework peace agreement addressing the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute and related tensions (one of the clearer cases of proactive U.S. involvement).
• Egypt–Ethiopia: Claimed resolution of the major dispute over the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) on the Nile. This was a high-stakes diplomatic/economic conflict rather than active armed warfare.
• Serbia–Kosovo: helped orchestrate progress toward normalization or peace (building on earlier first-term efforts)
• Thailand–Cambodia
Etc
Not to mention freeing the people of Venezuela from tyranny, as celebrated and thanked by last years Nobel peace prize winner.
Even if you consider the nuclear disarmament security operation in Iran a war....
That still leaves Trump with a .5% of countries at war with rate- one of the lowest in modern times.
Trump hasn't started a war with at least 193 nations
Trump has been the best peacemaker president in the modern era.
This term alone....
• Israel–Hamas: Facilitated or supported a ceasefire and hostage/prisoner exchange that paused major fighting in gaza and secured the release of remaining living Israeli hostages
• India–Pakistan: Asserted a role in de-escalating tensions (often associated to Kashmir).
• Rwanda-democratic republic of congo (DRC): Hosted and facilitated a peace agreement signed in Washington addressing long-running conflict involving militias.
• Armenia–Azerbaijan: Brokered or hosted a framework peace agreement addressing the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute and related tensions (one of the clearer cases of proactive U.S. involvement).
• Egypt–Ethiopia: Claimed resolution of the major dispute over the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) on the Nile. This was a high-stakes diplomatic/economic conflict rather than active armed warfare.
• Serbia–Kosovo: helped orchestrate progress toward normalization or peace (building on earlier first-term efforts)
• Thailand–Cambodia
Etc
Not to mention freeing the people of Venezuela from tyranny, as celebrated and thanked by last years Nobel peace prize winner.
Even if you consider the nuclear disarmament security operation in Iran a war....
That still leaves Trump with a .5% of countries at war with rate- one of the lowest in modern times.
BTW, I just hit the subscribe button harder than Hunter Biden hits a crack pipe. That's a perfect 100% increase in subscribers, numbers like you've never seen before. No one else will ever top it.
06-07-2026, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
We'll forgive a lot for anyone anti war anti bureaucratic corruption. Apparently trumptards thought that meant we love him the same way they do. I can say im disappointed but i cant say im surprised
I've been trying to tell people this for decades. The number of absolutely retarded things Donald Trump hasn't done is magnitudes greater than the number of absolutely retarded things he has done. I can't do the math but I can tell you with certainty that that's a huge difference.
BTW, I just hit the subscribe button harder than Hunter Biden hits a crack pipe. That's a perfect 100% increase in subscribers, numbers like you've never seen before. No one else will ever top it.
BTW, I just hit the subscribe button harder than Hunter Biden hits a crack pipe. That's a perfect 100% increase in subscribers, numbers like you've never seen before. No one else will ever top it.
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06-07-2026, 11:51 AM
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I live on an Indian reservation that, like all of them, is rife with corruption and embezzlement of federal funds. While the guilty as usual crowd here wont admit it, Donald Trump has been a god send with his audits and crack down of federal spending to places, like my rez, that dont need it. If you take into account that and him being the first president ever to take on the meat packers monopoly, that has been price gouging their way to record profits in the billions annually for 20+ years while cattle ranchers barely made enough to get by, he would still get my vote if he found his way onto the ballot again. He in no way has lived up to the expectations he set for himself but these are two huge issues for America as well as myself that nobody addresses that would have gone unnoticed had Kamala gotten in. Cattle ranchers were literally a few years away from being bankrupted by importing sub par and uninspected beef from third world countries thanks to the Democrats. Beef prices are only high now because of the suit against the Packers monopoly, once their monopoly is destroyed (and it will be) Americans will be able to eat the highest quality beef in the world at prices not far above that of poultry and pork.
06-07-2026, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
Damn brah - you've outdone my post in minutes.
I live on an Indian reservation that, like all of them, is rife with corruption and embezzlement of federal funds. While the guilty as usual crowd here wont admit Donald Trump has been a god send with his audits and crack down of federal spending to places, like my rez, that dont need it. If you take into account that and him being the first president ever to take on the meat packers monopoly, that has been price gouging their way to record profits in the billions annually for 20+ years while cattle ranchers barely made enough to get by, he would still get my vote if he found his way onto the ballot again. He in no way has lived up to the expectations he set for himself but these are two huge issues for America as well as myself that nobody addresses that would have gone unnoticed had Kamala gotten in. Cattle ranchers were literally a few years away from being bankrupted by importing sub par and uninspected beef from third world countries thanks to the Democrats. Beef prices are only high now because of the suit against the Packers monopoly, once their monopoly is destroyed (and it will be) Americans will be able to eat the highest quality beef in the world at prices not far above that of poultry and pork.
Good job man.
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06-07-2026, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
That's one way of looking at it lmao
Just a little excursion.
Just a little excursion.
Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
It's more than just that...
Trump hasn't started a war with at least 193 nations
Trump has been the best peacemaker president in the modern era.
This term alone....
• Israel–Hamas: Facilitated or supported a ceasefire and hostage/prisoner exchange that paused major fighting in gaza and secured the release of remaining living Israeli hostages
• India–Pakistan: Asserted a role in de-escalating tensions (often associated to Kashmir).
• Rwanda-democratic republic of congo (DRC): Hosted and facilitated a peace agreement signed in Washington addressing long-running conflict involving militias.
• Armenia–Azerbaijan: Brokered or hosted a framework peace agreement addressing the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute and related tensions (one of the clearer cases of proactive U.S. involvement).
• Egypt–Ethiopia: Claimed resolution of the major dispute over the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) on the Nile. This was a high-stakes diplomatic/economic conflict rather than active armed warfare.
• Serbia–Kosovo: helped orchestrate progress toward normalization or peace (building on earlier first-term efforts)
• Thailand–Cambodia
Etc
Not to mention freeing the people of Venezuela from tyranny, as celebrated and thanked by last years Nobel peace prize winner.
Even if you consider the nuclear disarmament security operation in Iran a war....
That still leaves Trump with a .5% of countries at war with rate- one of the lowest in modern times.
Trump hasn't started a war with at least 193 nations
Trump has been the best peacemaker president in the modern era.
This term alone....
• Israel–Hamas: Facilitated or supported a ceasefire and hostage/prisoner exchange that paused major fighting in gaza and secured the release of remaining living Israeli hostages
• India–Pakistan: Asserted a role in de-escalating tensions (often associated to Kashmir).
• Rwanda-democratic republic of congo (DRC): Hosted and facilitated a peace agreement signed in Washington addressing long-running conflict involving militias.
• Armenia–Azerbaijan: Brokered or hosted a framework peace agreement addressing the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute and related tensions (one of the clearer cases of proactive U.S. involvement).
• Egypt–Ethiopia: Claimed resolution of the major dispute over the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) on the Nile. This was a high-stakes diplomatic/economic conflict rather than active armed warfare.
• Serbia–Kosovo: helped orchestrate progress toward normalization or peace (building on earlier first-term efforts)
• Thailand–Cambodia
Etc
Not to mention freeing the people of Venezuela from tyranny, as celebrated and thanked by last years Nobel peace prize winner.
Even if you consider the nuclear disarmament security operation in Iran a war....
That still leaves Trump with a .5% of countries at war with rate- one of the lowest in modern times.
06-07-2026, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
The price of beef, flour based products, and gasoline/diesel will be following the same trend before the year is over.
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
Are ya'll still in a heifer retention phase?
The price of beef, flour based products, and gasoline/diesel will be following the same trend before the year is over.
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
Not with the latest worm going around that's going to require a ton of cattle to be killed.
The price of beef, flour based products, and gasoline/diesel will be following the same trend before the year is over.
06-07-2026, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
the adult New World screwworm (Cochliomyia hominivorax) is a fly and can fly.
Not with the latest worm going around that's going to require a ton of cattle to be killed.
The one incident we've had so far is at the us Mexican border - and the 2nd about 5 miles away.
This is after rapidly spreading though mexico.
Being that these things on average fly around 1.5' -6'- and hardly any fly over 20' ...
Would you agree it's a good idea to rapidly accelerate a solid wall on the border to help prevent them from crossing?
06-07-2026, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Kudos to trump for stopping the chicken genocide but let's be real here, if egg prices were through the roof and we were still putting chickens in mass graves the maga crew would be busy telling us that is a win for trump“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
06-07-2026, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
the screw worm has been a thing (and all other airborne pests) for as long as things have been things, we don't have it in South Dakota but I have friends in Texas that combat it with simple insecticide repellants we have been using for decades. Don't believe the hysteria on the news, the screw worm thing is just a way for democrats to get people to freak out about the "millions of cattle that must be slaughtered" to open the borders up to import sub par and uninspected foreign beef.
Not with the latest worm going around that's going to require a ton of cattle to be killed.
Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Its hard to justify it with the prices for heifers being so high so I personally will only be keeping one this year and that's only because she looks freaking bad ass. Shes a blue roan shorthorn X Hereford cross so she has a white face, blue roan hide, and a white stripe going down her left front shoulder all the way down past her knee that looks like a lightning bolt, will post her in my next ranch life thread. My personal plan is to sell everything (but her) this year and next, expand as much as possible with the profits and then in '28 and '29 save every single heifer and have a debt free herd of all young home raised mama cows by the time they all hit 2 and 3 years old.
Are ya'll still in a heifer retention phase?
06-07-2026, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
I looked into this claim that it is all the democrats fault, but all I could find was there was a ton of bipartisan support that caused the monopolization of the big four, and a lot of judicial rulings that makes it impossible to fight against the market concentration.
the screw worm has been a thing for as long as things have been things, we don't have it in South Dakota but I have friends in Texas that combat it with simple insecticide repellants we have been using for decades. Don't believe the hysteria on the news, the screw worm thing is just a way for democrats to get people to freak out about the "millions of cattle that must be slaughtered" to open the borders up to import sub par and uninspected foreign beef.
Furthermore, all the judges that ruled on Tyson vs. Pickett are judges that were appointed by Reagan and Bush, both Republicans. Which makes sense, because Republicans are typically in favor of monopolization and big business,
What is your source for all this being the Democrats fault?
Also, not taking any blame away from the Dems, because both parties are typically the same outside of culture wars, but Trump has been heavily in favor of foreign imports from Argentina until all the monopolization problems have been sorted through.
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06-07-2026, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
I consider RINO's to be democrats personally but I say democrats because in my experience as a life long rancher democrats tend to lean hard on reliance of sub par foreign products over quality home raised/grown products. This is not to say that republicans are without fault, they're definitely pieces of shit too by and large. But R-CALF (major representation for producers) have never been able to get a meeting with a president to bring this issue to light, until Donald Trump came along and let them be heard. Since their voices were heard the cattle market is finally at a point to where the people that feed the country can make a living that's worth the effort put in. If this holds up cattle ranching might be sustainable to the point that it alone can be an industry that pays a living wage. Never in my life has ranching been something you could live solely off of, there has always had to be some form of supplemental income to keep the bills paid, which can be difficult considering how time consuming ranching is. To quote my late grandfather "ranching is a hell of a lifestyle but a piss poor way to make a living.".
I looked into this claim that it is all the democrats fault, but all I could find was there was a ton of bipartisan support that caused the monopolization of the big four, and a lot of judicial rulings that makes it impossible to fight against the market concentration.
Furthermore, all the judges that ruled on Tyson vs. Pickett are judges that were appointed by Reagan and Bush, both Republicans. Which makes sense, because Republicans are typically in favor of monopolization and big business,
What is your source for all this being the Democrats fault?
Also, not taking any blame away from the Dems, because both parties are typically the same outside of culture wars, but Trump has been heavily in favor of foreign imports from Argentina until all the monopolization problems have been sorted through.
Furthermore, all the judges that ruled on Tyson vs. Pickett are judges that were appointed by Reagan and Bush, both Republicans. Which makes sense, because Republicans are typically in favor of monopolization and big business,
What is your source for all this being the Democrats fault?
Also, not taking any blame away from the Dems, because both parties are typically the same outside of culture wars, but Trump has been heavily in favor of foreign imports from Argentina until all the monopolization problems have been sorted through.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Just saw this sorry for double post. The numbers Trump talked about importing were and still are drops in a bucket, I'm not even sure why he said anything about it. The only things I can think of is either lip service (to whom I don't know), market manipulation or both.
Also, not taking any blame away from the Dems, because both parties are typically the same outside of culture wars, but Trump has been heavily in favor of foreign imports from Argentina until all the monopolization problems have been sorted through.
06-07-2026, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
I gotcha. My take is that its a free markets type problem, instead of a party issue. Both parties have typically held up to that economic orthodoxy of Ricardo, and cheaper foreign goods. Democrats adhering to it after WW2 to keep peace by economic exchange, and republicans completely gutting the economy during the Reagan Neo-liberal paradigm. Seems like mergers and government financing destroyed this sector of the economy, which is ultimately a bipartisan effort.
I consider RINO's to be democrats personally but I say democrats because in my experience as a life long rancher democrats tend to lean hard on reliance of sub par foreign products over quality home raised/grown products. This is not to say that republicans are without fault, they're definitely pieces of shit too by and large. But R-CALF (major representation for producers) have never been able to get a meeting with a president to bring this issue to light, until Donald Trump came along and let them be heard. Since their voices were heard the cattle market is finally at a point to where the people that feed the country can make a living that's worth the effort put in. If this holds up cattle ranching might be sustainable to the point that it alone can be an industry that pays a living wage. Never in my life has ranching been something you could live solely off of, there has always had to be some form of supplemental income to keep the bills paid, which can be difficult considering how time consuming ranching is. To quote my late grandfather "ranching is a hell of a lifestyle but a piss poor way to make a living.".
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Ii'll defer for the much more expertise cattle rancher thats 6'8" and close grip benches 500lbs with boots and jeans on...
My simpleton take OPG- you’re not wrong that the Big Four concentration has deep bipartisan roots and that old court cases like Pickett v. Tyson were brutal for producers (jury saw manipulation, judge tossed the verdict, Reagan/Bush appointees and all).
The system protected the packers for decades while ranchers got squeezed and packers raked in record billions. Nobody’s pretending that started last week.
But that’s exactly why large dude's post 14 lands so clean.
SmillironS wasn’t doing a “Democrats invented the monopoly” bit — he was pointing out who’s actually doing something about it right now instead of just talking or letting it fester.
Trump directed DOJ to investigate the Big Four for collusion, price fixing, and capacity manipulation.
They’re already moving on related antitrust cases and settlements aimed at the exact squeeze large dude described.
Previous admins (of both flavors) mostly shrugged while the packers consolidated to 85%+ control and ranchers needed side jobs just to survive.
On the Argentina imports — rez member already clarified it’s a drop in the bucket and probably lip service or noise.
Meanwhile the same admin is explicitly targeting foreign-owned packers (JBS being the biggest example) that domnate the supply chain.
The bigger threat smills called out was the push for flooding the market with cheap, low-standard, barely-inspected imports that would have finished off a lot of dostic operations.
Breaking the monopoly power from the inside protects American ranchrs and American beef quality at the same time.
And don’t sleep on the federal spending audits and crackdowns on rez-level corruption/embezzlement.
That’s real accountablity on waste that was ignored for years.
You can both-sides the ancient history and old judicial appointments all day, but results on the ground for producers and taxpayers matter more than debate points about who appointed which judge in the 2000s.
If this enforcement actually breaks the stranglehold and ranching becomes something you can live on without supplemental income (like SmillironS’s grandfather never saw), that’s a tangible W that wouldn’t have happened under the other side.
War/peace arguments are one lane.
This domestic stuff on monopolies and spending is another — and he was right to call it out as something that actually moves the needle for regular people.
There are a ton of micro issues that Trump admin has done that has helped regular people nationwide in the last year- especially on the regulation aspect side.
And more so in fundamental court case wins and pending verdict
My simpleton take OPG- you’re not wrong that the Big Four concentration has deep bipartisan roots and that old court cases like Pickett v. Tyson were brutal for producers (jury saw manipulation, judge tossed the verdict, Reagan/Bush appointees and all).
The system protected the packers for decades while ranchers got squeezed and packers raked in record billions. Nobody’s pretending that started last week.
But that’s exactly why large dude's post 14 lands so clean.
SmillironS wasn’t doing a “Democrats invented the monopoly” bit — he was pointing out who’s actually doing something about it right now instead of just talking or letting it fester.
Trump directed DOJ to investigate the Big Four for collusion, price fixing, and capacity manipulation.
They’re already moving on related antitrust cases and settlements aimed at the exact squeeze large dude described.
Previous admins (of both flavors) mostly shrugged while the packers consolidated to 85%+ control and ranchers needed side jobs just to survive.
On the Argentina imports — rez member already clarified it’s a drop in the bucket and probably lip service or noise.
Meanwhile the same admin is explicitly targeting foreign-owned packers (JBS being the biggest example) that domnate the supply chain.
The bigger threat smills called out was the push for flooding the market with cheap, low-standard, barely-inspected imports that would have finished off a lot of dostic operations.
Breaking the monopoly power from the inside protects American ranchrs and American beef quality at the same time.
And don’t sleep on the federal spending audits and crackdowns on rez-level corruption/embezzlement.
That’s real accountablity on waste that was ignored for years.
You can both-sides the ancient history and old judicial appointments all day, but results on the ground for producers and taxpayers matter more than debate points about who appointed which judge in the 2000s.
If this enforcement actually breaks the stranglehold and ranching becomes something you can live on without supplemental income (like SmillironS’s grandfather never saw), that’s a tangible W that wouldn’t have happened under the other side.
War/peace arguments are one lane.
This domestic stuff on monopolies and spending is another — and he was right to call it out as something that actually moves the needle for regular people.
There are a ton of micro issues that Trump admin has done that has helped regular people nationwide in the last year- especially on the regulation aspect side.
And more so in fundamental court case wins and pending verdict
06-07-2026, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I'm not discounting anything he said, because this is what he does. I was just curious as to how it came to be, and it mostly was a bipartisan issue, which everything typically is, outside of a few cultural hot button issues that mean absolutely nothing.
Ii'll defer for the much more expertise cattle rancher thats 6'8" and close grip benches 500lbs with boots and jeans on...
My simpleton take OPG- you’re not wrong that the Big Four concentration has deep bipartisan roots and that old court cases like Pickett v. Tyson were brutal for producers (jury saw manipulation, judge tossed the verdict, Reagan/Bush appointees and all).
The system protected the packers for decades while ranchers got squeezed and packers raked in record billions. Nobody’s pretending that started last week.
But that’s exactly why large dude's post 14 lands so clean.
SmillironS wasn’t doing a “Democrats invented the monopoly” bit — he was pointing out who’s actually doing something about it right now instead of just talking or letting it fester.
Trump directed DOJ to investigate the Big Four for collusion, price fixing, and capacity manipulation.
They’re already moving on related antitrust cases and settlements aimed at the exact squeeze large dude described.
Previous admins (of both flavors) mostly shrugged while the packers consolidated to 85%+ control and ranchers needed side jobs just to survive.
On the Argentina imports — rez member already clarified it’s a drop in the bucket and probably lip service or noise.
Meanwhile the same admin is explicitly targeting foreign-owned packers (JBS being the biggest example) that domnate the supply chain.
The bigger threat smills called out was the push for flooding the market with cheap, low-standard, barely-inspected imports that would have finished off a lot of dostic operations.
Breaking the monopoly power from the inside protects American ranchrs and American beef quality at the same time.
And don’t sleep on the federal spending audits and crackdowns on rez-level corruption/embezzlement.
That’s real accountablity on waste that was ignored for years.
You can both-sides the ancient history and old judicial appointments all day, but results on the ground for producers and taxpayers matter more than debate points about who appointed which judge in the 2000s.
If this enforcement actually breaks the stranglehold and ranching becomes something you can live on without supplemental income (like SmillironS’s grandfather never saw), that’s a tangible W that wouldn’t have happened under the other side.
War/peace arguments are one lane.
This domestic stuff on monopolies and spending is another — and he was right to call it out as something that actually moves the needle for regular people.
There are a ton of micro issues that Trump admin has done that has helped regular people nationwide in the last year- especially on the regulation aspect side.
And more so in fundamental court case wins and pending verdict
My simpleton take OPG- you’re not wrong that the Big Four concentration has deep bipartisan roots and that old court cases like Pickett v. Tyson were brutal for producers (jury saw manipulation, judge tossed the verdict, Reagan/Bush appointees and all).
The system protected the packers for decades while ranchers got squeezed and packers raked in record billions. Nobody’s pretending that started last week.
But that’s exactly why large dude's post 14 lands so clean.
SmillironS wasn’t doing a “Democrats invented the monopoly” bit — he was pointing out who’s actually doing something about it right now instead of just talking or letting it fester.
Trump directed DOJ to investigate the Big Four for collusion, price fixing, and capacity manipulation.
They’re already moving on related antitrust cases and settlements aimed at the exact squeeze large dude described.
Previous admins (of both flavors) mostly shrugged while the packers consolidated to 85%+ control and ranchers needed side jobs just to survive.
On the Argentina imports — rez member already clarified it’s a drop in the bucket and probably lip service or noise.
Meanwhile the same admin is explicitly targeting foreign-owned packers (JBS being the biggest example) that domnate the supply chain.
The bigger threat smills called out was the push for flooding the market with cheap, low-standard, barely-inspected imports that would have finished off a lot of dostic operations.
Breaking the monopoly power from the inside protects American ranchrs and American beef quality at the same time.
And don’t sleep on the federal spending audits and crackdowns on rez-level corruption/embezzlement.
That’s real accountablity on waste that was ignored for years.
You can both-sides the ancient history and old judicial appointments all day, but results on the ground for producers and taxpayers matter more than debate points about who appointed which judge in the 2000s.
If this enforcement actually breaks the stranglehold and ranching becomes something you can live on without supplemental income (like SmillironS’s grandfather never saw), that’s a tangible W that wouldn’t have happened under the other side.
War/peace arguments are one lane.
This domestic stuff on monopolies and spending is another — and he was right to call it out as something that actually moves the needle for regular people.
There are a ton of micro issues that Trump admin has done that has helped regular people nationwide in the last year- especially on the regulation aspect side.
And more so in fundamental court case wins and pending verdict
If Trump does something that helps essential workers that's fine. It's just out of the norm.
In the macro picture, it still doesn't change my view on him.
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