Thread: Been Vegan for 4 months AMA
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Human beings are full of hypocrisies, vegans and meat eaters alike.
Vegans want to eliminate animal suffering. Yet they use computers and drive cars. Both require energy which requires environmental destruction to produce, in turn harming other animals. And they use cell phones made with rare earth metals mined by some children held at gunpoint by gangs in the congo. Don't forget about vegan privilege. Most people on this earth do not have the time or resources to even make these ethical determinations. They eat what they have access to. And what about the bugs they step on and the mosquitoes the vegans swat? Doesn't all life hold value? Or is it only sentient life? What is sentience? Do they not see these arbitrary lines in the sand? There is no way to exist without inflicting oppression on other beings. If you want to eliminate suffering, blow up the world.
Meat eaters don't care, at least not enough to do anything. They have dogs and other pets. What's the difference between a pig and a terrier? Society told them one is for eating and one is for companionship. And they listened. They claim to be good people. Suffering is bad. Why does it matter whether it was another human or an animal? Both are capable of feeling pain. Most of them can't stomach watching factory farming videos or to go visit a slaughterhouse. If it's not good enough for your eyes, why is it good enough for your mouth? If you're so alpha that the pain doesn't upset you, how about I come beat your face in with a shovel? Or are you just ok with inflicting pain where it can't reciprocate against you? Because you're a coward.
You make remarks about the cruelty of the animal products industry, yet you do not act on them. It is only normal for someone as complacent as you to have the live and let live philosophy. When you become so compelled by an issue that you take action, then it follows that you would want others to do the same.
Vegans want to eliminate animal suffering. Yet they use computers and drive cars. Both require energy which requires environmental destruction to produce, in turn harming other animals. And they use cell phones made with rare earth metals mined by some children held at gunpoint by gangs in the congo. Don't forget about vegan privilege. Most people on this earth do not have the time or resources to even make these ethical determinations. They eat what they have access to. And what about the bugs they step on and the mosquitoes the vegans swat? Doesn't all life hold value? Or is it only sentient life? What is sentience? Do they not see these arbitrary lines in the sand? There is no way to exist without inflicting oppression on other beings. If you want to eliminate suffering, blow up the world.
Meat eaters don't care, at least not enough to do anything. They have dogs and other pets. What's the difference between a pig and a terrier? Society told them one is for eating and one is for companionship. And they listened. They claim to be good people. Suffering is bad. Why does it matter whether it was another human or an animal? Both are capable of feeling pain. Most of them can't stomach watching factory farming videos or to go visit a slaughterhouse. If it's not good enough for your eyes, why is it good enough for your mouth? If you're so alpha that the pain doesn't upset you, how about I come beat your face in with a shovel? Or are you just ok with inflicting pain where it can't reciprocate against you? Because you're a coward.
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phillyfreak7 (a vegan) is lighter, taller, and stronger than you. Are you mad, manlet? Go ahead and neg me forum whore. How does it feel knowing much of your fulfillment in life comes from this chitty website?Corn flake and almond crusted chicken fingers are amazing.
Originally Posted By UACdarknova⏩
If you adopted an ethical belief that reduced overall suffering, it would be illogical to turn a blind eye to those who do not practice that belief.First of all, karma doesn't exist. The universe doesn't know or care about you.
Second of all, as I said many times I'm not in favour of animal cruelty. But that doesn't mean I wish death upon human beings who consume meat.
See the way I think and speak right now is without emotion, calm, collected.
What your vegan buddy up there did was reveal his true colours - he places animal life above human life. He wants to see people suffer because they've consumed animals. He thinks it's some type of cosmic justice. He is mentally ill.
When vegans exhibit these traits they are exposed for and dismissed as the mentally ill people that they are.
Second of all, as I said many times I'm not in favour of animal cruelty. But that doesn't mean I wish death upon human beings who consume meat.
See the way I think and speak right now is without emotion, calm, collected.
What your vegan buddy up there did was reveal his true colours - he places animal life above human life. He wants to see people suffer because they've consumed animals. He thinks it's some type of cosmic justice. He is mentally ill.
When vegans exhibit these traits they are exposed for and dismissed as the mentally ill people that they are.
You make remarks about the cruelty of the animal products industry, yet you do not act on them. It is only normal for someone as complacent as you to have the live and let live philosophy. When you become so compelled by an issue that you take action, then it follows that you would want others to do the same.
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05-30-2016, 08:14 PM
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2016 and people STILL think humans are omnivores??? I'm appalled by how phucking stupid and incapable people are.
"Some may debate whether cholesterol is the sole cause of heart disease. It does not matter, the fact remains that atherosclerosis occurs only in herbivores. If humans were physiological omnivores, heart disease would not exist, let alone be America's #1 killer for over a hundred years."
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WE need to cook meat to make it edible. Go out in the wild and kill a deer and eat it raw and watch yourself die. Catch a fish in the water and eat it raw. So before fire was discovered, when did humans go from magically being able to eating meat to having it as an absolute requirement that it's cooked? EVERY ****ING SPECIES ON EARTH can eat meat, it doesn't mean it's healthy.
EVEN WITH ALL THIS BEING SAID - EVEN IF HUMANS WERE OMNIVORES - Omnivores can STILL survive without meat. We can survive without meat, but not without plants. So if you still somehow think that humans being "omnivores" gives you the right to contribute to the most sadistic and cruel industries on earth, you probably have a single digit IQ. This is not rocket science, it's basic logic, which apparently 99% of misc is not capable of.
Mother of phucking god people are dumb.
It's honestly getting to the point where you can directly correlate someone's intelligence with their thoughts and opinions on veganism.
"Some may debate whether cholesterol is the sole cause of heart disease. It does not matter, the fact remains that atherosclerosis occurs only in herbivores. If humans were physiological omnivores, heart disease would not exist, let alone be America's #1 killer for over a hundred years."
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WE need to cook meat to make it edible. Go out in the wild and kill a deer and eat it raw and watch yourself die. Catch a fish in the water and eat it raw. So before fire was discovered, when did humans go from magically being able to eating meat to having it as an absolute requirement that it's cooked? EVERY ****ING SPECIES ON EARTH can eat meat, it doesn't mean it's healthy.
EVEN WITH ALL THIS BEING SAID - EVEN IF HUMANS WERE OMNIVORES - Omnivores can STILL survive without meat. We can survive without meat, but not without plants. So if you still somehow think that humans being "omnivores" gives you the right to contribute to the most sadistic and cruel industries on earth, you probably have a single digit IQ. This is not rocket science, it's basic logic, which apparently 99% of misc is not capable of.
Mother of phucking god people are dumb.
It's honestly getting to the point where you can directly correlate someone's intelligence with their thoughts and opinions on veganism.
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Originally Posted By DoWorkSon515⏩
And yet again here come the personal attacks. Is is that hard for people (on both sides of this debate) to actually make rational points and not devolve into name calling and personal insults. Sheesh. No one will take your points seriously and you're not going to change minds if you behave like a child.phillyfreak7 (a vegan) is lighter, taller, and stronger than you. Are you mad, manlet? Go ahead and neg me forum whore. How does it feel knowing much of your fulfillment in life comes from this chitty website?
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
r u brainiac from youtube?2016 and people STILL think humans are omnivores??? I'm appalled by how phucking stupid and incapable people are.
"Some may debate whether cholesterol is the sole cause of heart disease. It does not matter, the fact remains that atherosclerosis occurs only in herbivores. If humans were physiological omnivores, heart disease would not exist, let alone be America's #1 killer for over a hundred years."
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WE need to cook meat to make it edible. Go out in the wild and kill a deer and eat it raw and watch yourself die. Catch a fish in the water and eat it raw. So before fire was discovered, when did humans go from magically being able to eating meat to having it as an absolute requirement that it's cooked? EVERY ****ING SPECIES ON EARTH can eat meat, it doesn't mean it's healthy.
EVEN WITH ALL THIS BEING SAID - EVEN IF HUMANS WERE OMNIVORES - Omnivores can STILL survive without meat. We can survive without meat, but not without plants. So if you still somehow think that humans being "omnivores" gives you the right to contribute to the most sadistic and cruel industries on earth, you probably have a single digit IQ. This is not rocket science, it's basic logic, which apparently 99% of misc is not capable of.
Mother of phucking god people are dumb.
"Some may debate whether cholesterol is the sole cause of heart disease. It does not matter, the fact remains that atherosclerosis occurs only in herbivores. If humans were physiological omnivores, heart disease would not exist, let alone be America's #1 killer for over a hundred years."
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WE need to cook meat to make it edible. Go out in the wild and kill a deer and eat it raw and watch yourself die. Catch a fish in the water and eat it raw. So before fire was discovered, when did humans go from magically being able to eating meat to having it as an absolute requirement that it's cooked? EVERY ****ING SPECIES ON EARTH can eat meat, it doesn't mean it's healthy.
EVEN WITH ALL THIS BEING SAID - EVEN IF HUMANS WERE OMNIVORES - Omnivores can STILL survive without meat. We can survive without meat, but not without plants. So if you still somehow think that humans being "omnivores" gives you the right to contribute to the most sadistic and cruel industries on earth, you probably have a single digit IQ. This is not rocket science, it's basic logic, which apparently 99% of misc is not capable of.
Mother of phucking god people are dumb.
05-30-2016, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Aaron4Prez⏩
bobby*******olla runs his mouth like a 5 year old in every vegan thread ever made. He's too thick and disillusioned by his ego to ever embrace any form of rational argument.And yet again here come the personal attacks. Is is that hard for people (on both sides of this debate) to actually make rational points and not devolve into name calling and personal insults. Sheesh. No one will take your points seriously and you're not going to change minds if you behave like a child.
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Originally Posted By DoWorkSon515⏩
Wanting others to do the same and wishing death upon those who don't are two entirely different things.It is only normal for someone as complacent as you to have the live and let live philosophy. When you become so compelled by an issue that you take action, then it follows that you would want others to do the same.
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Originally Posted By DoWorkSon515⏩
The thing is it's very rare to change a person's belief system if they've had it for a long time. It's ingrained in them. So getting angry when others don't want to follow your belief system does nothing but causes you emotional distress.bobby*******olla runs his mouth like a 5 year old in every vegan thread ever made. He's too thick and disillusioned by his ego to ever embrace any form of rational argument.
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Originally Posted By UACdarknova⏩
I don't fall into that camp, but let me ask you: Do you think child rapists deserve to die?Wanting others to do the same and wishing death upon those who don't are two entirely different things.
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Lol at neg by redraider86 for comment I already got banned for months ago.
Prob just mad that I am rustling her jimmies with truth and logic. Omnivores are so sensitive about their disgusting diets, lol. I guess I'd be mad too if I was a fat 30 yr old who eats rotting animal carcasses on a daily basis.
Prob just mad that I am rustling her jimmies with truth and logic. Omnivores are so sensitive about their disgusting diets, lol. I guess I'd be mad too if I was a fat 30 yr old who eats rotting animal carcasses on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted By BuralBrah⏩
If your goal is to enlighten everyone to the ways of veganism, you're doing an awful job. It's comments like this that turn people off to the idea. I'm not a vegan or vegetarian, but even I can tell you're giving veganism a bad name. I really believe (and hope) that you're just trolling at this point.Lol at neg by redraider86 for comment I already got banned for months ago.
Prob just mad that I am rustling her jimmies with truth and logic. Omnivores are so sensitive about their disgusting diets, lol. I guess I'd be mad too if I was a fat 30 yr old who eats rotting animal carcasses on a daily basis.
Prob just mad that I am rustling her jimmies with truth and logic. Omnivores are so sensitive about their disgusting diets, lol. I guess I'd be mad too if I was a fat 30 yr old who eats rotting animal carcasses on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted By Aaron4Prez⏩
hmm? who said I want to get people to turn to veganism? this thread is made by a vegan, he got attacked by stupid illogical arguments by retarded miscers that i felt obliged to come in.If your goal is to enlighten everyone to the ways of veganism, you're doing an awful job. It's comments like this that turn people off to the idea. I'm not a vegan or vegetarian, but even I can tell you're giving veganism a bad name. I really believe (and hope) that you're just trolling at this point.
couldnt care less what you choose to eat or not. Why the fk would I care about helping some dumb stranger become healthier? I am not an ethical vegan, but people who try to challenge the health benefits and ethical side of veganism with their retarded logic need to be put in their place. Iam glad i turned you off from veganism. Veganism isn't for the weak minded.
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Originally Posted By DoWorkSon515⏩
If you're trying to compare a person who rapes children with an average joe who eats meat then this conversation is over.I don't fall into that camp, but let me ask you: Do you think child rapists deserve to die?
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Originally Posted By BuralBrah⏩
Haha yeah okay bud. I am now positive you're trolling on all cylinders.hmm? who said I want to get people to turn to veganism? this thread is made by a vegan, he got attacked by stupid illogical arguments by retarded miscers that i felt obliged to come in.
couldnt care less what you choose to eat or not. Why the fk would I care about helping some dumb stranger become healthier? I am not an ethical vegan, but people who try to challenge the health benefits and ethical side of veganism with their retarded logic need to be put in their place. Iam glad i turned you off from veganism.Veganism isn't for the weak minded.
couldnt care less what you choose to eat or not. Why the fk would I care about helping some dumb stranger become healthier? I am not an ethical vegan, but people who try to challenge the health benefits and ethical side of veganism with their retarded logic need to be put in their place. Iam glad i turned you off from veganism.Veganism isn't for the weak minded.
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Originally Posted By UACdarknova⏩
A person who doesn't kill people is more ethical than someone who does. A person who doesn't kill animals is more ethical than someone that does. If you think you're better than a murderer than vegans are better than you. The only time a meat eater deserves to die of cancer is when they make jokes about animal suffering if they are unaware, or are honest and don't make stupid illogical excuses then i don't wish death upon on them. I see nothing wrong with thatIf you're trying to compare a person who rapes children with an average joe who eats meat then this conversation is over.
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Originally Posted By UACdarknova⏩
And if you're trying to dismiss the validity of this conversation then it has only just begunIf you're trying to compare a person who rapes children with an average joe who eats meat then this conversation is over.
Just because something is practiced by the common man does not mean it is ethical. You're really showing your ignorance here. Stop being so dogmatic and look at what is really taking place. We don't sit around waiting for farm animals to mount each other. They are raped. At the youngest age biologically possible to maximize profitability. Is there such a thing as humane rape? Can we try it on humans?
You may think I am trying to grant the life of other animals the same moral value as human life. Not necessarily. But even if we designate the value of a cow's life to be some infinitesimal fraction of the value of a human's life, does that make it ok?
There are holocaust survivors who have spoken out against the meat industry, citing the plight of animals to be worse than what the jews endured throughout WW2
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05-30-2016, 09:04 PM
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That's bull****.Humans are herbivores if your jaw moves side to side you're herbivore, carnivores rip and swallow. If you sweat through your pores to cool yourself you're herbivore.
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Originally Posted By Smallfukbrah⏩
More **** logic.A person who doesn't kill people is more ethical than someone who does. A person who doesn't kill animals is more ethical than someone that does. If you think you're better than a murderer than vegans are better than you. The only time a meat eater deserves to die of cancer is when they make jokes about animal suffering if they are unaware, or are honest and don't make stupid illogical excuses then i don't wish death upon on them. I see nothing wrong with that
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I feel superior as fukk not eating any meat other than chicken and beef.
Would feel 10x more superior if I wasn't a little bitch and could actually stick to a vegan diet. Chit is hard. Kudos and repped.
Lol'd so hard at the dude on page two that said we call people who kill animals "Men". We call people that kill men psychopaths, we call people that kill animals sadistic. What fukkin planet are you living on son?
Also, fukkin lol. I hate ******* kunts that think that they are more of a man for eating rare meats and chit. I'd rather my food doesn't look like I just decapitated my ****ing puppy dog and started cutting it up into strips of blood and flesh.
There is also a direct correlation regarding to IQ with a reduced intake of meats. People that are more likely to order their food rare are in fact on average 8 IQ points below those that choose to eat their food completely cooked, not red. So fukkin lol. Vegans/Vegetarians are more often intellectually more advanced, and actually studies have shown that a reduction by 30% of your meat intake per week can boost your brains function and development by up to 14%. Whilst reducing the chance of stomach and rectal cancer by more than 60%.
Like I said, fukkin kudos to OP for going vegan. Maybe if people were stronger, smarter and more motivated to be better people, we might actually be able to change the world instead of destroying it.
Also, if you eat bacon, go eat your dog. Srs. Disgusting and actually putrid. The ethical repercussions of eating pig should make you want to vomit and hate yourself.
Fukkin disgusting fukks in here advocating for meat...lmao. If you don't think the treatment of these animals is sickening, than how about I lock your family up the same way and then eventually slaughter them one by one? That's what's fukking happening. And some of you here are all like 'la di da gotta eats my meat to be a man'. Go catch your food. Don't buy it in a grocery store. Because that doesn't make you a man. It makes you a fukkin scavenger, eating the offcuts of someone elses kill. Real fukkin alpha.
Again, I eat beef and chicken, so I'm not a vegan, I just know how fukking disgusting and fukked up the world is and what they do to these animals before they're made ready for us to consume. Don't turn a blind eye.
If you actually knew what was going on, you'd be less inclined to jump in here and slander vegans and the veganism lifestyle.
Sorry for the long ass rant, it's just are people really that naive and clueless as to how bad the treatment of these animals is? Putrid.
Would feel 10x more superior if I wasn't a little bitch and could actually stick to a vegan diet. Chit is hard. Kudos and repped.
Lol'd so hard at the dude on page two that said we call people who kill animals "Men". We call people that kill men psychopaths, we call people that kill animals sadistic. What fukkin planet are you living on son?
Also, fukkin lol. I hate ******* kunts that think that they are more of a man for eating rare meats and chit. I'd rather my food doesn't look like I just decapitated my ****ing puppy dog and started cutting it up into strips of blood and flesh.
There is also a direct correlation regarding to IQ with a reduced intake of meats. People that are more likely to order their food rare are in fact on average 8 IQ points below those that choose to eat their food completely cooked, not red. So fukkin lol. Vegans/Vegetarians are more often intellectually more advanced, and actually studies have shown that a reduction by 30% of your meat intake per week can boost your brains function and development by up to 14%. Whilst reducing the chance of stomach and rectal cancer by more than 60%.
Like I said, fukkin kudos to OP for going vegan. Maybe if people were stronger, smarter and more motivated to be better people, we might actually be able to change the world instead of destroying it.
Also, if you eat bacon, go eat your dog. Srs. Disgusting and actually putrid. The ethical repercussions of eating pig should make you want to vomit and hate yourself.
Fukkin disgusting fukks in here advocating for meat...lmao. If you don't think the treatment of these animals is sickening, than how about I lock your family up the same way and then eventually slaughter them one by one? That's what's fukking happening. And some of you here are all like 'la di da gotta eats my meat to be a man'. Go catch your food. Don't buy it in a grocery store. Because that doesn't make you a man. It makes you a fukkin scavenger, eating the offcuts of someone elses kill. Real fukkin alpha.
Again, I eat beef and chicken, so I'm not a vegan, I just know how fukking disgusting and fukked up the world is and what they do to these animals before they're made ready for us to consume. Don't turn a blind eye.
If you actually knew what was going on, you'd be less inclined to jump in here and slander vegans and the veganism lifestyle.
Sorry for the long ass rant, it's just are people really that naive and clueless as to how bad the treatment of these animals is? Putrid.
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Originally Posted By naths⏩
huge respect to you m8 for actually being honest and self critical with yourself. That's a noble quality most men lack nowadays.I feel superior as fukk not eating any meat other than chicken and beef.
Would feel 10x more superior if I wasn't a little bitch and could actually stick to a vegan diet. Chit is hard. Kudos and repped.
Lol'd so hard at the dude on page two that said we call people who kill animals "Men". We call people that kill men psychopaths, we call people that kill animals sadistic. What fukkin planet are you living on son?
Also, fukkin lol. I hate ******* kunts that think that they are more of a man for eating rare meats and chit. I'd rather my food doesn't look like I just decapitated my ****ing puppy dog and started cutting it up into strips of blood and flesh.
There is also a direct correlation regarding to IQ with a reduced intake of meats. People that are more likely to order their food rare are in fact on average 8 IQ points below those that choose to eat their food completely cooked, not red. So fukkin lol. Vegans/Vegetarians are more often intellectually more advanced, and actually studies have shown that a reduction by 30% of your meat intake per week can boost your brains function and development by up to 14%. Whilst reducing the chance of stomach and rectal cancer by more than 60%.
Like I said, fukkin kudos to OP for going vegan. Maybe if people were stronger, smarter and more motivated to be better people, we might actually be able to change the world instead of destroying it.
Also, if you eat bacon, go eat your dog. Srs. Disgusting and actually putrid. The ethical repercussions of eating pig should make you want to vomit and hate yourself.
Fukkin disgusting fukks in here advocating for meat...lmao. If you don't think the treatment of these animals is sickening, than how about I lock your family up the same way and then eventually slaughter them one by one? That's what's fukking happening. And some of you here are all like 'la di da gotta eats my meat to be a man'. Go catch your food. Don't buy it in a grocery store. Because that doesn't make you a man. It makes you a fukkin scavenger, eating the offcuts of someone elses kill. Real fukkin alpha.
Again, I eat beef and chicken, so I'm not a vegan, I just know how fukking disgusting and fukked up the world is and what they do to these animals before they're made ready for us to consume. Don't turn a blind eye.
If you actually knew what was going on, you'd be less inclined to jump in here and slander vegans and the veganism lifestyle.
Sorry for the long ass rant, it's just are people really that naive and clueless as to how bad the treatment of these animals is? Putrid.
Would feel 10x more superior if I wasn't a little bitch and could actually stick to a vegan diet. Chit is hard. Kudos and repped.
Lol'd so hard at the dude on page two that said we call people who kill animals "Men". We call people that kill men psychopaths, we call people that kill animals sadistic. What fukkin planet are you living on son?
Also, fukkin lol. I hate ******* kunts that think that they are more of a man for eating rare meats and chit. I'd rather my food doesn't look like I just decapitated my ****ing puppy dog and started cutting it up into strips of blood and flesh.
There is also a direct correlation regarding to IQ with a reduced intake of meats. People that are more likely to order their food rare are in fact on average 8 IQ points below those that choose to eat their food completely cooked, not red. So fukkin lol. Vegans/Vegetarians are more often intellectually more advanced, and actually studies have shown that a reduction by 30% of your meat intake per week can boost your brains function and development by up to 14%. Whilst reducing the chance of stomach and rectal cancer by more than 60%.
Like I said, fukkin kudos to OP for going vegan. Maybe if people were stronger, smarter and more motivated to be better people, we might actually be able to change the world instead of destroying it.
Also, if you eat bacon, go eat your dog. Srs. Disgusting and actually putrid. The ethical repercussions of eating pig should make you want to vomit and hate yourself.
Fukkin disgusting fukks in here advocating for meat...lmao. If you don't think the treatment of these animals is sickening, than how about I lock your family up the same way and then eventually slaughter them one by one? That's what's fukking happening. And some of you here are all like 'la di da gotta eats my meat to be a man'. Go catch your food. Don't buy it in a grocery store. Because that doesn't make you a man. It makes you a fukkin scavenger, eating the offcuts of someone elses kill. Real fukkin alpha.
Again, I eat beef and chicken, so I'm not a vegan, I just know how fukking disgusting and fukked up the world is and what they do to these animals before they're made ready for us to consume. Don't turn a blind eye.
If you actually knew what was going on, you'd be less inclined to jump in here and slander vegans and the veganism lifestyle.
Sorry for the long ass rant, it's just are people really that naive and clueless as to how bad the treatment of these animals is? Putrid.
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Originally Posted By sgttom⏩
raw vegan is stupid . making the stomach and spleen work overtime to heat the food. slower digestion, less calories assimilated per day; less gains. unless you live in a climate where it's hot year round this is not ideal for those enduring winter monthsCool. You really wouldn't notice a difference in the way you feel in such a short time.
Being Vegan isn't that hard.
RAW vegan now that is hard.
Being Vegan isn't that hard.
RAW vegan now that is hard.
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Originally Posted By BuralBrah⏩
Stopped reading there. Nice appeal to natureYes I know what omnivorous means.
Why does everyone assume veganism is all about eating grass and veggies? I am no biologist but i'm pretty sur cellulose mostly comes from grass/leaves
No vegan ever preaches you to go out start chewing on grass. The ideal diet for optimal health for human beings is a fruitarian/high carb diet although I don't follow that 100%. I only follow the advice of nutrition experts like Campbell, mcdougal and eselstyn, not some charlatan like Dr. Atkins, keteo/paleo nonsense.
Like I said humans can survive off vodka and skittles for years, doesnt mean it's the right, andhealthy natural choice. Do whatever floats you boat though. If ingesting corpse flesh in rigor mortis is your thing go for it. Just don't fool yourself into thinking your diet is manlier than a vegan diet just because you pay someone else to slaughter and butcher animals for you.
Why does everyone assume veganism is all about eating grass and veggies? I am no biologist but i'm pretty sur cellulose mostly comes from grass/leaves
No vegan ever preaches you to go out start chewing on grass. The ideal diet for optimal health for human beings is a fruitarian/high carb diet although I don't follow that 100%. I only follow the advice of nutrition experts like Campbell, mcdougal and eselstyn, not some charlatan like Dr. Atkins, keteo/paleo nonsense.
Like I said humans can survive off vodka and skittles for years, doesnt mean it's the right, andhealthy natural choice. Do whatever floats you boat though. If ingesting corpse flesh in rigor mortis is your thing go for it. Just don't fool yourself into thinking your diet is manlier than a vegan diet just because you pay someone else to slaughter and butcher animals for you.
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Originally Posted By DoWorkSon515⏩
I commend you for trying to argue with such a braindead moron.And if you're trying to dismiss the validity of this conversation then it has only just begun
Just because something is practiced by the common man does not mean it is ethical. You're really showing your ignorance here. Stop being so dogmatic and look at what is really taking place. We don't sit around waiting for farm animals to mount each other. They are raped. At the youngest age biologically possible to maximize profitability. Is there such a thing as humane rape? Can we try it on humans?
You may think I am trying to grant the life of other animals the same moral value as human life. Not necessarily. But even if we designate the value of a cow's life to be some infinitesimal fraction of the value of a human's life, does that make it ok?
There are holocaust survivors who have spoken out against the meat industry, citing the plight of animals to be worse than what the jews endured throughout WW2
Just because something is practiced by the common man does not mean it is ethical. You're really showing your ignorance here. Stop being so dogmatic and look at what is really taking place. We don't sit around waiting for farm animals to mount each other. They are raped. At the youngest age biologically possible to maximize profitability. Is there such a thing as humane rape? Can we try it on humans?
You may think I am trying to grant the life of other animals the same moral value as human life. Not necessarily. But even if we designate the value of a cow's life to be some infinitesimal fraction of the value of a human's life, does that make it ok?
There are holocaust survivors who have spoken out against the meat industry, citing the plight of animals to be worse than what the jews endured throughout WW2
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Originally Posted By BuralBrah⏩
I actually have a certain degree of respect for meat-eaters who acknowledge their wrong-doings.huge respect to you m8 for actually being honest and self critical with yourself. That's a noble quality most men lack nowadays.
In other words, future vegans. They may not think they'll ever go vegan but they end up doing it.
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I find it funny that you ****gy time vegans try to argue ethics as if morality is objective. Also, vegan diets havent been proven to be healthier because all the ****ty studies that try to prove veganism is healthier dont control the moderators (overall lifestyle, caloric surplus/deficit, etc.)
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Originally Posted By BuralBrah⏩
It shouldn't be, people are just spineless cowards who lack the conviction and mental awareness of basically everything they do in life. If you do something, make sure you know what you're doing. If you don't you're a moron. If you do, you're prepared and looking for ways to make things better.huge respect to you m8 for actually being honest and self critical with yourself. That's a noble quality most men lack nowadays.
How are people supposed to improve anymore? The world has gone to ****. Everyone is a fukking pussy nowadays, unwilling to stand up for ****. We have more crybaby's now than we did 20 years ago. We have people that are no longer able to stay headstrong, people are crumbling under the weight of their own ethics and moral dilemmas and everything we are getting told is way out of fukking whack. We are systematically destroying everything. And people don't give a fukk.
Man, the more days I seem to go through, the more I start to see the terrible maliciousness of the human condition. "If I'm good, fukk everyone else", "If I'm bad, fukk everyone else". There's no more helping. No more teamwork. People are more happy to see their FRIENDS fail than succeed.
We are losing empathy and emotion faster than ever before. Killing more animals than ever before. Bombing more countries than ever before. We are losing our humanity and our compassion and everyone is just sitting there like "Oh fukking well".
I know I made this way bigger than just talking about veganism, but the fact that there are more people on here slamming veganism, KNOWING FULL WELL that it is actually HELPING to spread the very thing we're all beginning to lose. Compassion. Compassion for others, compassion for animals, compassion for our environment.
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Originally Posted By Smallfukbrah⏩
And not a single answer was given that day. Thanks for showing everyone how stupid you are you baffoonWolves don't go to grocery store and put their food in an oven, they eat it raw and don't use knives they use their teeth to cut up in the skin and eat the meat. You're not a wolf if you want to be a wolf eat exactly how they do and live like they do your body is herbivorous your intestine is 10-12 times longer your body longer while carnivores intestines are 3-6 times their body length.
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Originally Posted By Smallfukbrah⏩
If you were so concerned about the welfare of animals, then you would consume a diet consisting mainly of insects. Evidence point to insects as not feeling pain, in addition the environmental impact of eating insects is much less than eating crops, which btw can actually be very harmful to the environment depending on a vegans food choice. Therefore by eating insects you would reduce animal cruelty more so than your vegan diet which leads me to my question, why are you not eating and harvesting insects?A person who doesn't kill people is more ethical than someone who does. A person who doesn't kill animals is more ethical than someone that does. If you think you're better than a murderer than vegans are better than you. The only time a meat eater deserves to die of cancer is when they make jokes about animal suffering if they are unaware, or are honest and don't make stupid illogical excuses then i don't wish death upon on them. I see nothing wrong with that
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Originally Posted By naths⏩
Well said brahIt shouldn't be, people are just spineless cowards who lack the conviction and mental awareness of basically everything they do in life. If you do something, make sure you know what you're doing. If you don't you're a moron. If you do, you're prepared and looking for ways to make things better.
How are people supposed to improve anymore? The world has gone to ****. Everyone is a fukking pussy nowadays, unwilling to stand up for ****. We have more crybaby's now than we did 20 years ago. We have people that are no longer able to stay headstrong, people are crumbling under the weight of their own ethics and moral dilemmas and everything we are getting told is way out of fukking whack. We are systematically destroying everything. And people don't give a fukk.
Man, the more days I seem to go through, the more I start to see the terrible maliciousness of the human condition. "If I'm good, fukk everyone else", "If I'm bad, fukk everyone else". There's no more helping. No more teamwork. People are more happy to see their FRIENDS fail than succeed.
We are losing empathy and emotion faster than ever before. Killing more animals than ever before. Bombing more countries than ever before. We are losing our humanity and our compassion and everyone is just sitting there like "Oh fukking well".
I know I made this way bigger than just talking about veganism, but the fact that there are more people on here slamming veganism, KNOWING FULL WELL that it is actually HELPING to spread the very thing we're all beginning to lose. Compassion. Compassion for others, compassion for animals, compassion for our environment.
How are people supposed to improve anymore? The world has gone to ****. Everyone is a fukking pussy nowadays, unwilling to stand up for ****. We have more crybaby's now than we did 20 years ago. We have people that are no longer able to stay headstrong, people are crumbling under the weight of their own ethics and moral dilemmas and everything we are getting told is way out of fukking whack. We are systematically destroying everything. And people don't give a fukk.
Man, the more days I seem to go through, the more I start to see the terrible maliciousness of the human condition. "If I'm good, fukk everyone else", "If I'm bad, fukk everyone else". There's no more helping. No more teamwork. People are more happy to see their FRIENDS fail than succeed.
We are losing empathy and emotion faster than ever before. Killing more animals than ever before. Bombing more countries than ever before. We are losing our humanity and our compassion and everyone is just sitting there like "Oh fukking well".
I know I made this way bigger than just talking about veganism, but the fact that there are more people on here slamming veganism, KNOWING FULL WELL that it is actually HELPING to spread the very thing we're all beginning to lose. Compassion. Compassion for others, compassion for animals, compassion for our environment.
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
you CAN eat that stuff raw you citified dumb kunt. As long as its fresh/and not an obviously diseased animal.2016 and people STILL think humans are omnivores??? I'm appalled by how phucking stupid and incapable people are.
"Some may debate whether cholesterol is the sole cause of heart disease. It does not matter, the fact remains that atherosclerosis occurs only in herbivores. If humans were physiological omnivores, heart disease would not exist, let alone be America's #1 killer for over a hundred years."
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WE need to cook meat to make it edible. Go out in the wild and kill a deer and eat it raw and watch yourself die. Catch a fish in the water and eat it raw. So before fire was discovered, when did humans go from magically being able to eating meat to having it as an absolute requirement that it's cooked? EVERY ****ING SPECIES ON EARTH can eat meat, it doesn't mean it's healthy.
EVEN WITH ALL THIS BEING SAID - EVEN IF HUMANS WERE OMNIVORES - Omnivores can STILL survive without meat. We can survive without meat, but not without plants. So if you still somehow think that humans being "omnivores" gives you the right to contribute to the most sadistic and cruel industries on earth, you probably have a single digit IQ. This is not rocket science, it's basic logic, which apparently 99% of misc is not capable of.
Mother of phucking god people are dumb.
It's honestly getting to the point where you can directly correlate someone's intelligence with their thoughts and opinions on veganism.
"Some may debate whether cholesterol is the sole cause of heart disease. It does not matter, the fact remains that atherosclerosis occurs only in herbivores. If humans were physiological omnivores, heart disease would not exist, let alone be America's #1 killer for over a hundred years."
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WE need to cook meat to make it edible. Go out in the wild and kill a deer and eat it raw and watch yourself die. Catch a fish in the water and eat it raw. So before fire was discovered, when did humans go from magically being able to eating meat to having it as an absolute requirement that it's cooked? EVERY ****ING SPECIES ON EARTH can eat meat, it doesn't mean it's healthy.
EVEN WITH ALL THIS BEING SAID - EVEN IF HUMANS WERE OMNIVORES - Omnivores can STILL survive without meat. We can survive without meat, but not without plants. So if you still somehow think that humans being "omnivores" gives you the right to contribute to the most sadistic and cruel industries on earth, you probably have a single digit IQ. This is not rocket science, it's basic logic, which apparently 99% of misc is not capable of.
Mother of phucking god people are dumb.
It's honestly getting to the point where you can directly correlate someone's intelligence with their thoughts and opinions on veganism.
Look at the navajo and every other native american
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Originally Posted By naths⏩
Says we have more crybabies now than ever before, proceeds to cry about killing animals. You're right, there are more crybabies and pussies now than ever before and you're part of it. Do you think people in the early 1900's gave a single **** about how a animal felt as long as they were able to provide food for their family? It's called survival and self-preservation. Nothing malicious about it. If you value a ****ing pig over another human being you have a screw loose. Procreation and helping your species survive is what we were designed for.How are people supposed to improve anymore? The world has gone to ****. Everyone is a fukking pussy nowadays, unwilling to stand up for ****. We have more crybaby's now than we did 20 years ago. We have people that are no longer able to stay headstrong, people are crumbling under the weight of their own ethics and moral dilemmas and everything we are getting told is way out of fukking whack. We are systematically destroying everything. And people don't give a fukk.
We are losing empathy and emotion faster than ever before. Killing more animals than ever before. Bombing more countries than ever before. We are losing our humanity and our compassion and everyone is just sitting there like "Oh fukking well".
I know I made this way bigger than just talking about veganism, but the fact that there are more people on here slamming veganism, KNOWING FULL WELL that it is actually HELPING to spread the very thing we're all beginning to lose. Compassion. Compassion for others, compassion for animals, compassion for our environment.
We are losing empathy and emotion faster than ever before. Killing more animals than ever before. Bombing more countries than ever before. We are losing our humanity and our compassion and everyone is just sitting there like "Oh fukking well".
I know I made this way bigger than just talking about veganism, but the fact that there are more people on here slamming veganism, KNOWING FULL WELL that it is actually HELPING to spread the very thing we're all beginning to lose. Compassion. Compassion for others, compassion for animals, compassion for our environment.
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