We've talked about this before, Cap. It's time for you to live by your belief system and give up supporting these medieval, disgusting gulags, brah. Most humans deep down don't want to harm animals. We're an entirely non-obligate omnivorous being, meaning we can live on either meat, plants or both. We have the evolved ability to eat meat in cases of lack of plant food. We do not have the obligate carnivorousism in us, like a lion does, which absolutely MUST eat meat or it dies.

Your reaction is that of the sane, rational, non-brainwashed human. Veganism is healthier, can reverse the majority of devastation we've wrought on the planet, and is obviously more compassionate to our animal cousins.



I commend you on seeing the light, brah. But chickens and fish are still sentient. A fish pulled from water has one of the worst deaths of all, because it's like you being dragged into water along with other humans, in a net, and just being held there until you're either crushed by other humans or suffocate to death.

Chickens... they also have a chitty life, whether for eggs or slaughter:








You're from the UK too, brah. Let me tell you, the Asians get a lot of flack for their animal abuse, but right now 100,000 Chinese people are protesting the impending Yulin. All nations have the most disgusting of animal abuse, and our "more civilised" country is no better:




And those Liveleak videos you refuse to watch are just the illegal torture practices the sick pieces of chit who work inside do for kicks. Even the standard textbook legal practices are fukken repugnant and if you look into them, you will be sickened, brah.



Lab meat is coming, brah. But in the mean time, you can be better and give up the chicken and fish! Plenty of protein in plants!



You're not weird, brah.

You're actually just a fukkin piece of chit, so please, get terminal cancer and die in agony and terror. Thanks.




This. Animal agrilculture is absolutely ravaging our climate and ecology the world over:

www.cowspiracy.com/facts

The western diet, which contains far, far too many animal products, are causing the obesity, cancers and diabetes epidemics, and is utterly bankrupting western healthcare systems:

www.nutritionfacts.org

And it is the most repugnant, unnaturally barbaric infliction of inimaginable suffering and terror and barbarism onto our sentient, intelligent animal evolutionary cousins:

http://www.nationearth.com/earthlings-1/



Nature isn't nice. But what we are doing to animals now is not even natural. So far from natural... it is a synthetic torture and death machine with the most seemingly fictional hell-like scenarios for aniamls.

The difference is a cat has to eat meat or die. It's an obligate carnivore (fuk vegans who try to veganise their cats), and that mouse, even if eaten alive for 15 minutes before it dies, is still the life the animals in factory farms would beg for compared to what they actually go through, breh.



This statement always makes me laugh.

There is nothing less manly than one paying people to enslave, torture and kill defenceless, innocent, terrified animals, because like a baby crying for his bottle, one can't live without their bacon or steak, because they're weak-willed as fuk.



You're already half-way there, brah. But remember, be weary of justifying anything that has a victim with "I like..." This comparison might shock you, seem sensationalist and seem incompatible, but imagine a rapist in court telling the jury "But I enjoy sex" as his justification for rape. It wouldn't hold up very well would it? Now, again, before anyone is shocked, let me break down this comparison. In western nations we live with an abundance of alternatives for our nutrition. Bountiful plantfood that contains absolutely everything we need. The only reason we have left to consume animals is because we like the taste pleasure. Ergo, we support and fund these horrific torture chambers and inflict such cruelty and barbarism onto animals... for no other reason than pleasure. It is no different to dog fighting or zoos.



Dairy is the absolute worst industry of all when you pay attention to the process, my friend. Female cows go through the same stresses as raped women, because, well, they are raped... and again, before you think that's sensationalist, they are actually put into a device that the industry itself refers to as "a rape rack".

Then they have their offspring snatched away from them where it will lie locked in a wooden box in darkness for veal. Imagine the grief and heartbreak a mother goes through losing a child... well, that's cows in the dairy industry. Yet instead of time to grieve, they're stood on concrete for 14-18 hours a day, with a metal apparatus constantly sucking at their udders until their udders turn blackened and swollen, and so the milk has to have hormones pumped into it to clear infections that might pass onto humans. She'll be in this machine for 2 years until her body finally collapses from exhaustion... and then she's sent to slaughter anyway:





Oh and about eggs:





Wow... a fellow Welsh vegan! You're making me proud, brah!




Absolutely not a solution. These solutions have to be applied to the entire human race, especially now animal agriculture is utterly ravaging our climate and ecology the world over. So all the wild fish and animals in the world just simply aren't in abundance enough for all 7.5 billion people to hunt and kill.

But what we do have is the apparatus and technology to sustain the entire globe on plant food, and its environmental impact would be a fraction of what animal agriculture's impact right now.



Oh this stupid response again.

There is no moral quandary, you fat fukkin moron.

Plants have no central nervous system. They react entirely autonomously to stimuli on a chemical level. They're not aware of any pain, emotion or their existence on a conscious level.

What's more, let's just play into your childish fantasy that plants feel pain, it would still make sense to have a vegan world, considering far more plants die as a result of animal agriculture, considering we need to feed 50+ billion a year, than would under an entirely vegan 7.5 billion population.

So yeah, vegan world = fewer plant deaths and of course far, far fewer animal deaths.


IN CLOSING: Watch a world class, Harvard PhD psychologist explain how we've developed along this path of madness and ridiculous consumption of meat and addiction to it






AndEVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGIST Richard GOAT Dawkinsexplain the absurdity of treating other animals as LESSER than us, when they are, in fact, our evolutionary cousins, and only have such distinction between us now because the intermediary species went extinct!

yeah, thats the most annoying thing. They put it in everything, it's done me a lot of good though because I used to eat ready-meals all the dam time. Now I've finally learned to cook my food properly lol. Just the standard beans, lentils, nuts, etc. I'm still learning myself though tbh. Also use myprotein vegan blend protein shakes right now. Chocolate flavour tastes great. Its on offer at the moment 12 per bag

Mmm Lab meat

This.

Best post I've ever seen on misc.

man I thought that would be one of the hardest things to cut out too, but almond milk on my cereal is hnnnnnngggggg, and alpro original soy milk for my tea / coffee tastes better than milk ever did imo

we need to develop a super virus that will wipe out human kind. I'll gladly walk hand in hand into extinction and leave this planet for the animals.

How can any human even live without experiencing tremendous guilt and pain over this? Should we even be alive?

bunch sjw ghey ****s gon ghey **** sitting atop that pretty little high horse, how about staying in your lane and stop dictating to others what is 'ethical', what is 'humane'

Or whether actual meat grown in a lab

The pics alone made me sick, no way in hell I'm gonna click on that. How the fk can someone do that to animals.

....and by inhabitants I mean the evil, parasitic alien hybrids known as man that infect this glorious planet.

I'd bludgeon and eat you the same way those cows are bludgeoned, *******.

Would the meat taste better if it was killed humanely? You are still ending another creatures life, cutting it apart, cooking it, and sprinkling condiments on it to make it taste yummy. But somehow THESE images are what turns you vegan? Comical.

We are a disgusting species.

After MetalLover's posts, I can say that I'm 100% put off by veganism.

I've often wondered if they would be able to do this with stem cells etc.

Also - whjat are your views on insect sourced protein?

They reckon it's the next big thing.

Are insects (especially mealworms etc) sentient?

Will rep on r/c by the way.

Is it possible to get stronger and bigger eating vegetable protein etc?

That I agree with....but not because we eat meat. We do a lot worse ****.

One video will drive OP to change his entire life? Strong rustling.

we need to develop a super virus that will wipe out human kind. I'll gladly walk hand in hand into extinction and leave this planet for the animals.

How can any human even live without experiencing tremendous guilt and pain over this? Should we even be alive?

honestly couldn't care less how the animal is dispatched. regardless, bludgeoning to the head does not seem like "unnecessary" pain. if its got to die and you just have basic tools, caving in the skull would be the most effective way.

don't get all the puccis in this thread. worst part about this is how insincere your concerns really are. killing is disturbing, all you're worried about is your feels, not the animal.

You could just kill yourself, but that's the beauty of the internet, spout BS with no consequences.

Has anyone seen cowspiracy? It brings up the enviromental effects of meat and dairy production.

I was sold when I saw it however some people question it's credibilty.

One video will drive OP to change his entire life? Strong rustling.

Oh here we go, the fukkin pussies have turned up who want to claim it's manly to bully, torture, and terrorise defenceless creatures.

Yeah, these same "men" that are glad they live in the "softened society" they do now, because they would piss their pants in a truly natural tribal world, like the fukkin hypocritical pansy fuks they are.

Seriously considering more and more becoming pescetarian. This is beyond fuking disturbing, can't even watch the vid had to scroll right past the pics. What a sht world we live in boyos. The older I get, the more feelings I have for animals.

You could just kill yourself,but that's the beauty of the internet, spout BS with no consequences.

Here's what pisses me off about Cowspiracy and Vegans who argue about the environment.

Yes, cows do a **** ton of GREEN HOUSE gas. But GREEN HOUSE GAS is only 2-3% of total CO2 POLLUTION. You want to save the world, start by helping us against CO2 POLLUTION, the real threat to the entire god damn planet. Like sh!t, even the U.S. agency that tracks pollution had to make a retard page distinguishing green house gas and CO2 pollution for all the ****ing vegan retards.

Find one post where I've said I like seeing animals mistreated. I'll wait.