Guns are scaryyyyyyyy

I agree completely. As a Canadian gun owner its pretty depressing

maybe its because alot of politicians have called for outright bans turning in guns and confiscation.then you have import bans on guns and ammo making it impossibe to get them.

Obama keeps saying 'weapons of war don't belong on our streets,' in reference to what he calls 'assault rifles' ie which are simply nothing more than semi-auto rifles with high capacity mags.

The second amendment protects exactly that, Mr Obama and supporters.






Thread:'AR-15, AK-47 and similar are the MOST protected of all under the second amendment'

If you think the gov can fight a domestic insurgency of ~50 million americans, lol. Right now they can't handle 10 ISIS guys going about their terrorist business
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https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._2010-2014.xls

Violent Crime has also been on a fair downward trend for the past 5 years.


Any Liberals who argue they just want some gun control are complete liars. The party is almost unanimously against even semi-auto rifles in the hands of citizens. And will eventually aim to remove them. Then once they realize more people are dying to pistols, they will go for them next.

If you want gun control, how about stop making these stupid gun free zones where all the mass murders are taking place. Your laws just stop the innocent from carrying.

idgaf if ineeda semi automatic non-assault rifle or not, its my right

What's funny is the Americans believe something that was written into their constitution back in 1789 somehow has relevance in todays society. Right to bear arms, sure. That was written in to help you protect yourselves from the Brittish invaders. Your gun crime and mass shootings are completely bonkers to every other civilised society. When you do have mass shootings, your gun sales go up!! What in the actual fuk. It's hard to admit that something that is the fabric of your society is actually doing you more harm than good. I can see that it would be very hard to admit that you are getting it wrong etc. But, from the outside looking in, America has massive, massive issues in addressing this problem. People that are pro-guns can't sit back and look at this issue objectively and see you have massive faults in how you sell guns to your citizens. How easy it is for people to buy deadly weapons. Before you can fix a problem, you have to admit you have one. Not a lot of people around here who would say you do. Madness.

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The number of 2016 mass shootings/active shooter instances in the US alone:[URL=http://massshootingtracker.org/data]http://massshootingtracker.org/data[/URL]

Facts.
Please feel free to check them as you like.
[b]Guns are dangerous. No, it's been proven they do not help as people suspect with defense (see above)[/b]
ARs have no use aside from being 'fun to shoot'. They are not practical from a defense standpoint.

[b]I'm well aware the pro-gunners crew loves straw man arguments, ad hoc fallacies, hasty generalizations, arguments from ignorance and red herrings - these are fallacious, and yes I call them out as I see them. No, I don't even bother to address them.[/b]
It seems that the average citizen is blind to the issue of firearm violence, morbidity and mortality we have in this country. Anyone in the medical profession can attest to the fact.

Making statements without support by reputable sources = fallacious.

Lastly, almost every non-American pretty much has the opposite stance: they are dangerous, and unnecessary - and thus, gun control should be implemented.
[i]And let's be honest... Gun control does in no way mean that anyone is taking your guns away... It implements policies on those purchasing guns from here on out. [b]If you are a law-abiding citizen, there should be absolutely no changes for you even with gun control.[/b][/i][/QUOTE]
LMAO capt. cuck over here thinks a gun wouldn't help during a home invasion/mugging/rape. strong.

[QUOTE=Mirinmebrahs post_id=1448574113]What's funny is the Americans believe something that was written into their constitution back in 1789 somehow has relevance in todays society. Right to bear arms, sure. That was written in to help you protect yourselves from the Brittish invaders. Your gun crime and mass shootings are completely bonkers to every other civilised society. When you do have mass shootings, your gun sales go up!! What in the actual fuk. It's hard to admit that something that is the fabric of your society is actually doing you more harm than good. I can see that it would be very hard to admit that you are getting it wrong etc. But, from the outside looking in, America has massive, massive issues in addressing this problem. People that are pro-guns can't sit back and look at this issue objectively and see you have massive faults in how you sell guns to your citizens. How easy it is for people to buy deadly weapons. Before you can fix a problem, you have to admit you have one. Not a lot of people around here who would say you do. Madness.[/QUOTE]
US murder rate per capita rank is somewhere in the 100's, if you took out the gang violence we have in a handful of inner-cities, it drops to lows of countries that have no guns. but of course, liberals like yourself can't be bothered to look up facts. just going off your emotions and feelings, as always. pathetic.

its about WANT over NEED...can anyone at least admit that? I know its easy for me to admit it.

and any thing can be an "assault weapon" thats the vague as fuk. Say rifle like you know you want to OP.

you gun nuts are legit remedial. Yes, I am not advocating taking anything away from law abiding people. Stop with the straw man bullchit.

bans should apply to future purchases though

There you go trying to justify gun murders by categorising them as "inner-city" or whatever label you want to use. Murder by firearms is murder, end of story, dimwit.

well those are the extreme views, most gun control advocates aren't saying that

Brah, come on man...

Why cuz your shiitts already banned

repped.

people in american are retarded, why do you think Donald Trump is a stones throw from the presidency

You're still at this bull****? Christ man, get a life. The underlined proves you DO want to ban guns, so fuk off already. It's not going to happen.

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Just lol @ your comments concerning the Constitution. You really are fuking lost. You are as unAmerican as it gets. Move to Europe already and be done with it.

i don't think we should ban anything but I think it should be MUCH harder to get them.

edit: Y'all mo****ers really neg for this post?

Countries or states that have mass poverty where people are allowed guns = recipe for disaster.
Even in the scummiest parts of england id feel a lot safer knowing these kids on the street are far less likely to own a gun

[QUOTE=Canadian_Lifter post_id=1448482143][b]If you are a law-abiding citizen, there should be absolutely no changes for you even with gun control.[/b][/I][/QUOTE]Plenty of law abiding citizens like to buy the "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines" that some are looking to ban.

We also do private transfers, which some would also like to outlaw.

So in short, I have no idea wtf you're talking about.

Uh, people defend themselves with firearms all the time. This is a simple fact.Yes, they absolutely are. Particularly for static home defense. You obviously have no clue what you're taking about, so you should probably stop posting this ridiculous nonsense.

it's a non issue

let's be real 99% of the most vocal on both sides have inferiority complexes. if i had a kid i wouldn't let them within 1000 feet of a miscer

I really enjoy the non-american living miscers getting in on the conversation. They lose the arguments, then proceed to call all Americans idiots/trump supporting rednecks. We really don't care what you have to say about us. And your immediate choice of ad hominem attacks prove your opinions are worthless.

I look forward to your reputable sources for the claim that AR's are somehow impractical for defense.

If that's the case, why does the FBI feel it is important to note the amount of murders that are specifically gang related?

Because it is in fact a different issue. Do you really thing murders would stop without guns? Have you even compared murder rates of other countries? Of course you haven't.

the presidential nominee for the democrats has said we should look at an australian gun control model.first they just want a little and then when they get it they want a little more and it wont stop until we have just a fraction of what we have now.do you really think the politicians care about you or your safety?

No it's not, you stupid sack of sh*t

No one gives a fuk about the subhuman scum killing each other over gang or drug bs every day. They don't matter, their lives never once mattered, and no one gives a fuk when they're gone.

Stop trying to justify your cowardice over an object that commands a healthy level of respect but offers so much in return

That's a nice way of attempting to justify being a limp wristed ******* that can't take a stance on an issue

I need to take an anti e after reading this cuck fest of a thread

Feel free to petition your state reps to push for a constitutional amendment if scary black rifles trigger you.

I'll try to look at this objectively... If I'm lucky I imagine I'll never need a gun for the rest of my life. I doubt I'd ever be mugged at knife point and I don't think I'll ever experience a home invasion, but let's say that either of those things did happen, and let's say someone close to me, or even myself got seriously injured, I imagine I would have liked to have a gun at that moment.

Following that train of thought I can see why people would want guns for their own safety. But what you gun enthusiasts have to understand it's an alien and foreign concept to anyone who has never had, or ever needed a gun. We look at guns and we think... Why? Like seriously, why? In a world full of idiots do I really want them all to be able to buy them just incase the really unlikely scenario that I myself need a gun ever arises? No I don't. But like I said I can see where the argument comes from.

But then you have this other sort of "argument" for guns, and it stems from something deeper than the logical need to protect yourself... it's almost this blind sentimental need to own one for abstract reasons with no foundation in reality. You see people saying "We need guns incase the government turn on us, or we get invaded", I mean is this **** for real? As if this scenario is ever going to happen? You may as well say we need guns for when the aliens visit. Then you also have this "Beta don't like guns, liberal this, cucks that", as if there is some need to have a gun or you aren't a man. I mean ****, if you think you need a gun to be a man then you've got some issues. Then there's the whole "Second amendment" argument, which to me is the most ****ing retarded of the lot, as if just because it's in writing from a different time and a vastly different era we should never question it. If we all just blindly believed **** that was written hundreds of years ago then we'd still be stuck worshipping the seven commandments like dumb ass zealots.

I guess the real problem here is that guns are so ingrained in your culture, that making them harder to access will only hinder honest citizens and the occasionally nutcase, whilst criminals who get guns illegally are unaffected. Which really just means to me that you're kinda ****ed. Still, if I was an American gun supporter, I'd still be in support of at least making it hard enough to those mentally unstable kids, or weird ****ing religious nutters aren't able to get their hands on it. If I had to suffer a bureaucratic process of several weeks in order to get my hands on a gun, then what's the big deal? Either it lowers gun crime and then we're all happy, or it does nothing and so what... you're put out a few weeks. I know you fellas probably don't want this cause you consider it a progression towards outright banning guns, but I dunno... isn't anything that lowers gun crime good for gun owners?