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Thread: If you think AR-15s are useless for home defense, you are incredibly ignorant. (PIC)

post 1450664453 07-01-2016, 02:16 PM
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If you think AR-15s are useless for home defense, you are incredibly ignorant. (PIC)

It confuses me when I hear people in the media, politicians, or other people ignorant of guns say "no one needs an AR-15 because they are not useful for home defense". Um, actually the AR platform is the PERFECT home defense firearm.

I'll break this one down a bit.

First, it has a 10.5" barrel so it is a SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) according to the ATF which required me to submit a lengthy application process, background check (in addition to the one I went through when I bought it as a pistol), a 3 month wait, and a $200 tax stamp just to be able to add a stock to it.

The short barrel is practical for HD as it gives me a smaller overall length to wield inside a home.

It also has a suppressor. Which took another background check, another 6 month wait, and another $200 tax stamp. All so that if I have to fire the rifle in defense in the home it won't blow my hearing out and/or that of my family.

A 500 Lumen weapon mounted light with strobe function allows me to illuminate, positively identify, and disorient a threat without having to move my hands from a firing position.

People often use handguns for home defense, but a handgun is used to fight your way to a long gun. Handguns are by nature not accurate weapons with their short barrels and short sight radius. Especially under stress, when your adrenaline dump hits and you lose fine motor control. Long barrel and holographic sight ensure round go where they intend.

Bringing a long gun to a gun fight is like bringing a chainsaw to a knife fight.

The AR platform is also light and has zero if any felt recoil so it is easily managed by not just me but also my wife, and allows for rapid well aimed follow on shots.

Rifles produce hydrostatic shock, handguns for the most part do not.

Handguns have half the magazine capacity of an AR.

So, all rambling aside. This is the perfect HD weapon. Gun grabbers can kiss my ass.

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post 1450664613 07-01-2016, 02:18 PM
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post 1450664793 07-01-2016, 02:19 PM
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post 1450664863 07-01-2016, 02:19 PM
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post 1450664953 07-01-2016, 02:20 PM
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JUST LOL if you don't have LMGs mounted all around the house.
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post 1450665463 07-01-2016, 02:25 PM
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Nice rifle. 30 or 40 round mag?
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post 1450665733 07-01-2016, 02:27 PM
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I restore axes as a hobby, have around 300 of them, maybe 50 currently restored and sharpened, literally every room of the house has about a dozen.



If you think a home invader won't 360 his ass outta there upon entry, you got another thing coming boyo.




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post 1450665813 07-01-2016, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Giant_Killer⏩
Nice rifle. 30 or 40 round mag?
30 round
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post 1450666253 07-01-2016, 02:30 PM
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inb4 libtards say the government will protect you, there is no need for home defense
post 1450666393 07-01-2016, 02:31 PM
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Couldn't agree more blump.

Fuk a gun control advocate.
Originally Posted By hodgesjoshuab⏩
inb4 libtards say the government will protect you, there is no need for home defense
When seconds count, the police are only half an hour away.
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post 1450666673 07-01-2016, 02:32 PM
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post 1450666743 07-01-2016, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
I restore axes as a hobby, have around 300 of them, maybe 50 currently restored and sharpened, literally every room of the house has about a dozen.

If you think a home invader won't 360 his ass outta there upon entry, you got another thing coming boyo.
Thats cool. Unless they are armed.

I prefer to not let them get that close


boyo
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post 1450666773 07-01-2016, 02:33 PM
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I keep a hand grenade in my night stand, fuk trying to aim, anyone who breaks into my house has a zero percent chance of walking out alive
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You ain't got nothin on my anti-tank weapons brah. Come at me.
Your schtick sucks and it screams insecurity.
post 1450667453 07-01-2016, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By digital022⏩
You ain't got nothin on my anti-tank weapons brah. Come at me.
Think again Boyo...

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post 1450667543 07-01-2016, 02:39 PM
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A handgun is still the best home defense weapon IMO. Rifles have their place in there, and are no doubt handy to have, but my pistol in my nightstand is better than my AR behind my nightstand. Also not to mention issues with over penetration and CQB maneuverability.
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post 1450667563 07-01-2016, 02:39 PM
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I'd respectfully add another point to your argument, that is, some agree that the risk of overpenetration is least with the AR vs. handgun/shotgun. It goes against most peoples' assumptions if they don't know much about ballistics.
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post 1450667853 07-01-2016, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted By blumpkin415⏩
Thats cool. Unless they are armed.

I prefer to not let them get that close


boyo
Criminals aren't smart people, good chance they lack the skill to invade a home properly with a firearm and have the balls to actually use it.

The best offense is a good defense, solid door, deadbolt, lights, a security system, living in a good part of town or the country, owning multiple large dog breeds, constantly working outside sharpening and hanging axes for everyone to see, not being a manlet. . .

I have several guns, just don't have one locked and loaded in the house.

Also my house doesn't have 50 foot long rooms, not that great of distance anywhere in the house.
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post 1450667983 07-01-2016, 02:42 PM
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Pshht.. I rather keep a p90. Way more light, can be shot with one hand, compact, Can be put in a dresser drawer for god sakes.

or a simple glock.

I'd take the ar15 for shooting.. not for home defense.
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Cool story bro but I got all the protection I need...
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post 1450668063 07-01-2016, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Mehhzyy⏩
As a Canadian, I agree OP. Would 360 the FUK out of a house if the person had an AR-15.Would not own one
Why not own both?
Originally Posted By mot1ve⏩
Get outta here with your nonsense .. Take the ar15 for shooting.. not for home defense.
Why? You'd rather give a home invader a better chance of success?
Originally Posted By Giant_Killer⏩
I'd respectfully add another point to your argument, that is, some agree that the risk of overpenetration is least with the AR vs. handgun/shotgun. It goes against most peoples' assumptions if they don't know much about ballistics.
Depends on the kind of ammo you're using. 62 grain m855 will absolutely penetrate deeper than 115 grain FMJ 9mm. I've seen 240 grain .45 acp rounds get stuck in standard structural 2x4s too.

But sheet rock will not stand up well to anything. Even .22 lr could go clean through.
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post 1450668733 07-01-2016, 02:46 PM
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It's the propaganda by the anti gunners that tries to make people think there's no legitimate use for an AR for the average person. If everyone realized they could be the best home defense weapon, they'd never get anywhere with their talks of bans. They've obviously never tried to make follow up shots with a pistol vs. an AR. An AR with a red dot is so much easier under stress to acquire your target than a handgun.
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post 1450668763 07-01-2016, 02:47 PM
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Just LMAO if you don't use a KS-23 for home defense.



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If an intruder is in my house I would feel a lot safer with a handgun or shotgun vs an AR-15
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That's pretty boss. My friend is trying to convince me to get a handgun but I do like a rifle, especially the AR. I've shot one a few times.
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Here in CA they are a poor choice imo - good luck fumbling with a bullet button (Not any more! thanks Jerry Brown!) on your 10 round mag at 2am if you didn't manage to disable all the fine young men who decided to come spread the Word of Jesus Christ
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Originally Posted By BryantVII⏩
If an intruder is in my house I would feel a lot safer with a handgun or shotgun vs an AR-15
Have you tried shooting these different types of firearms?
Originally Posted By sword_⏩
That's pretty boss. My friend is trying to convince me to get a handgun but I do like a rifle.
Both have their place, and both would serve well as HD weapons, but you'd be better equipped with a rifle. Much better range, much easier to hit what you're aiming at, typically higher magazine capacity and much more powerful rounds.

Plus rifles are more intimidating, so it's more likely a home invader would run away, which is much more preferable to shooting them.
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Why not an AR-10?
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brb 30 inch long with suppressor
brb trying to maneuver a 2 ft long weapon through doors
brb trying to be james bond instead of practical
brb worried about "hearing safety" during a home invasion, just lol
brb 5.56 going to prenetrate through every wall in your house

dumbasses gonna dumbass
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