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06-30-2016, 03:03 PM
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06-30-2016, 03:09 PM
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I read that you went to a club and got discouraged.
The biggest risk for people like you who just became aware of the need to change and are going through a period of massive self-improvement is discouragement. This is why it might be a good idea to stop involving yourself in classic ''pick-up'' situations such as clubs and trying to cold approach women during the day (which you shouldn't be doing anyway).
It can be a very good idea to just take a break from those situations for 3 - 5 months so you can improve yourself massively. Then re-enter the dating game after you feel you're ready again.
The problem with clubs is that if you are after the attractive girls, well so is everyone else. This means you need to be better than your competition. The metrics on which you are evaluated by the attractive girls are looks, social status, social skills/game, money. If you have not improved yourself that much then you probably rank low on those and hence you won't have consistent success.
The biggest risk for people like you who just became aware of the need to change and are going through a period of massive self-improvement is discouragement. This is why it might be a good idea to stop involving yourself in classic ''pick-up'' situations such as clubs and trying to cold approach women during the day (which you shouldn't be doing anyway).
It can be a very good idea to just take a break from those situations for 3 - 5 months so you can improve yourself massively. Then re-enter the dating game after you feel you're ready again.
The problem with clubs is that if you are after the attractive girls, well so is everyone else. This means you need to be better than your competition. The metrics on which you are evaluated by the attractive girls are looks, social status, social skills/game, money. If you have not improved yourself that much then you probably rank low on those and hence you won't have consistent success.
06-30-2016, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By pablocai⏩
me last summerin that pic with the suit, you look a bit to edward mcgregor, srs
go for this look

go for this look


(edited out the acne)
Originally Posted By datwalltho⏩
thanks for the advice I'll think about what you said.Hey man, I made this account for guys like you. I was in a similar situation years ago and did a ton of self-improvement when I became aware.
The great thing is that you are aware of the need to improve. I want to give you a few tips:
1) Don't do cold approaches. Attractive women do not like to get bothered in the middle of the day. If will drop your confidence. Only low-value men do cold day approaches;
2) Instead of cold approaching to get to know women, get involved in social events that have a lot of women, such as (college) classes, mixed sports teams, a part-time job at cafe. The great thing about these things is they improve you in other ways than just social skills and social circle;
3) You need to improve your wardrobe. The easiest way to do this is, when you find yourself in social circles, look at what the high-value men are wearing and copy it. No need to reinvent the wheel. Pay particular attention to the fit. Fit trumps style/colors/brands. If you have a good body, as you seem to have, well-fitted clothes usually are slim-fit. Until you know exactly what to buy, keep it simple. No jackets and other fancy stuff, you are not on that level yet. Keep your clothes clean and fresh;
4) The misc jokes about facial aesthetics being most important, but they really are. This means getting a haircut regularly, whitening teeth and, maybe most importantly, you need a skin regimen. A lot of stuff is available these days that can make your acne-ridden skin look almost flawlessly. Look into that more deeply and if needed, consult an expert. In any case, you can start off with a basic regimen regardless. A basic regimen consists of face wash and moisturizer for your face + moisturizer for around your eyes. More extended regimens are available on the Internet. Biggest mistake people make with skin regimens is that they apply the stuff too harshly with their fingers on their face, while you need to carefully apply the stuff. That is, you should barely touch your face while washing and applying stuff.
These are the things just off the top of my head. If I remember other stuff I will add it in this topic.
The great thing is that you are aware of the need to improve. I want to give you a few tips:
1) Don't do cold approaches. Attractive women do not like to get bothered in the middle of the day. If will drop your confidence. Only low-value men do cold day approaches;
2) Instead of cold approaching to get to know women, get involved in social events that have a lot of women, such as (college) classes, mixed sports teams, a part-time job at cafe. The great thing about these things is they improve you in other ways than just social skills and social circle;
3) You need to improve your wardrobe. The easiest way to do this is, when you find yourself in social circles, look at what the high-value men are wearing and copy it. No need to reinvent the wheel. Pay particular attention to the fit. Fit trumps style/colors/brands. If you have a good body, as you seem to have, well-fitted clothes usually are slim-fit. Until you know exactly what to buy, keep it simple. No jackets and other fancy stuff, you are not on that level yet. Keep your clothes clean and fresh;
4) The misc jokes about facial aesthetics being most important, but they really are. This means getting a haircut regularly, whitening teeth and, maybe most importantly, you need a skin regimen. A lot of stuff is available these days that can make your acne-ridden skin look almost flawlessly. Look into that more deeply and if needed, consult an expert. In any case, you can start off with a basic regimen regardless. A basic regimen consists of face wash and moisturizer for your face + moisturizer for around your eyes. More extended regimens are available on the Internet. Biggest mistake people make with skin regimens is that they apply the stuff too harshly with their fingers on their face, while you need to carefully apply the stuff. That is, you should barely touch your face while washing and applying stuff.
These are the things just off the top of my head. If I remember other stuff I will add it in this topic.
06-30-2016, 03:18 PM
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I recommend reading the below books. Buy an ebook reader and download them
How to Win Friends and Influence People
Power of Now
The Power of Your Subconcious Mind
Art of War
48 Laws of Power
7 Habits of Highly Effective People
What Everybody is Saying
No More Mr Nice Guy
The Art of Seduction
The Manipulated Man
I also recommend spending a session with a prostitute. I did it years ago, not because I was FA but because I wanted to change myself. I spent the hour with her teaching me to be the one in control with sex and to better my conversations with woman. We role played with me trying to pick her up and flirt. I was at ease because there was no pressure. She fixed many of my mistakes and I stopped putting woman on a pedestral and learned to take charge. The books above and my visit to a prostitute made me the alpha I am today. I say that to anyone else here as well. So many FA here, but even if you start getting woman it doesn't change much. You need to start changing your thinking, break a womans overbearing self esteem and stop giving them attention
I'll share my best pickup trick as well. Stare at her while she's facing to the side and make sure there's no one and nothing interesting behind you. As she turns to look over, move your eyes slowly to something behind her. Slowly, not fast. Then quickly move your eyes onto her. Our brains can easily notice quick movements of others eyes, but not if you move them slowly. It will look like she was staring. Then you smile and walk over and make a joke. Very easy way to approach anyone regardless of gender or age
How to Win Friends and Influence People
Power of Now
The Power of Your Subconcious Mind
Art of War
48 Laws of Power
7 Habits of Highly Effective People
What Everybody is Saying
No More Mr Nice Guy
The Art of Seduction
The Manipulated Man
I also recommend spending a session with a prostitute. I did it years ago, not because I was FA but because I wanted to change myself. I spent the hour with her teaching me to be the one in control with sex and to better my conversations with woman. We role played with me trying to pick her up and flirt. I was at ease because there was no pressure. She fixed many of my mistakes and I stopped putting woman on a pedestral and learned to take charge. The books above and my visit to a prostitute made me the alpha I am today. I say that to anyone else here as well. So many FA here, but even if you start getting woman it doesn't change much. You need to start changing your thinking, break a womans overbearing self esteem and stop giving them attention
I'll share my best pickup trick as well. Stare at her while she's facing to the side and make sure there's no one and nothing interesting behind you. As she turns to look over, move your eyes slowly to something behind her. Slowly, not fast. Then quickly move your eyes onto her. Our brains can easily notice quick movements of others eyes, but not if you move them slowly. It will look like she was staring. Then you smile and walk over and make a joke. Very easy way to approach anyone regardless of gender or age
07-05-2016, 07:10 AM
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Done a couple approaches since the last time I posted. Did not go too well, was awkward as chit and got blown out within a few seconds most of the time. I feel like I can do much, much better than this so I'll be trying again soon.
Learnt of something very interesting called goal card and auto suggestion from this video
Will make that chit and remind myself of my destiny every day from now on.
Learnt of something very interesting called goal card and auto suggestion from this video
Will make that chit and remind myself of my destiny every day from now on.
07-05-2016, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted By betamax69⏩
wtf an 8? Are you retarded? he is just a regular 5 or 6. Normal, average. how the fuk you give him an 8? Yah a homo?Dude.... You're like an 8/10. I think the buzz cut looks good on you too no homo
Good luck w your progress you're still really young and will make it
Good luck w your progress you're still really young and will make it
I keep pushing because I think I'm untouchable. But I'll learn the hard way because I'm only a popcorn fart away from a 30 day ban.
07-05-2016, 07:21 AM
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I'm curious to know - maybe its already been mentioned or addressed in this thread - but why not work on bettering yourself through education, travel/culture, working, making money, and furthering yourself on a more personal level, as opposed to seeking out broads and making yourself look foolish in the long run (since you apparently have no idea how to approach them for the sole purpose of getting a number)?
You're better off working on yourself and building yourself up than taking the approach you're doing. The women WILL come, and you certainly can't go out loving anyone else if you don't love yourself first. Loving yourself comes with looking in the mirror every day and loving what you see (on a physical/mental/spiritual level).
Srs af.
You're better off working on yourself and building yourself up than taking the approach you're doing. The women WILL come, and you certainly can't go out loving anyone else if you don't love yourself first. Loving yourself comes with looking in the mirror every day and loving what you see (on a physical/mental/spiritual level).
Srs af.
How to stay MOTIVATED: Take it one day at a time, surround yourself with positivity, create a vision board, make S.M.A.R.T. goals, reward yourself, BELIEVE in yourself, acknowledge your positive attributes, recognize your progress, visualize accomplishing your goals, be kind to yourself, and above all - DON'T COMPARE yourself to others.
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07-05-2016, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted By KRC63⏩
this!Yo seriously you need a tan. Some people don't, but you my friend are not one of them. Grow out your hair a bit on the top (keep sides short), get a tan, and grow a little bit of stubble from your jawline to your cheek (shave neckbeard completely), get some nice fitting, clean looking clothes and you'll easially be up 4-5 points on the hotness scale
also get a fade
a crew cut or something. That will boost you up a solid 1-2 points. No chicks our age like buzz cuts
I'm being 100% serious. Also get some nice clothes man, be ready to drop a few hundred bucks for some nice chinos, shoes and jackets/shirts. You don't need to be jacked to get chicks, dress better and get a haircut which compliments your head shape
6'2",220 currently
Goals:BW-240lbs then cut; B-315 S-405 D-500
07-05-2016, 07:31 AM
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I'm not sure why everyones solution is "get a hair style". I don't think it matters much. get what you are most comfortable with. The only thing lookswise I think is the skin, but of course OP already knows that.
OP you need to stop cold approaches. Unless it's a setting with alcohol, it's usually just awkward and will make you feel like **** afterwards.
You just need to focus on a few areas of your life you want to excel, the bitches will come. Happiness comes from within. I can tlel you internal happiness with myself is greater than any validation from others. right now you dont have your own validation. Get involved/practice a sport. Start meditating to work on your flaws(if your serious I can point you in right direction). Do Yoga. Excel at your job. Spend time with family/pets. Get a hobby and excel at that, could be anything from videogames, guns, martial arts, gardening, ****ing whatever.
your already bilingual, that **** is impressive.
OP you need to stop cold approaches. Unless it's a setting with alcohol, it's usually just awkward and will make you feel like **** afterwards.
You just need to focus on a few areas of your life you want to excel, the bitches will come. Happiness comes from within. I can tlel you internal happiness with myself is greater than any validation from others. right now you dont have your own validation. Get involved/practice a sport. Start meditating to work on your flaws(if your serious I can point you in right direction). Do Yoga. Excel at your job. Spend time with family/pets. Get a hobby and excel at that, could be anything from videogames, guns, martial arts, gardening, ****ing whatever.
your already bilingual, that **** is impressive.
Originally Posted By Lightsoft⏩
Dude look at the pic he posted a few posts above. He's a good looking guy, way above average considering what the average dude in the world looks like.wtf an 8? Are you retarded? he is just a regular 5 or 6. Normal, average. how the fuk you give him an 8? Yah a homo?
07-05-2016, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Garados⏩
I disagree, if OP goes into it with a mindset of overcoming his anxiety, cold approaches can be great to accomplish this goal. OP, just don't turn into an autistic PUA who talks to 1000 girls a week but fuks zero. Keep working on yourself in different areas, you are already doing great from what you've written!I'm not sure why everyones solution is "get a hair style". I don't think it matters much. get what you are most comfortable with. The only thing lookswise I think is the skin, but of course OP already knows that.
OP you need to stop cold approaches. Unless it's a setting with alcohol, it's usually just awkward and will make you feel like **** afterwards.
You just need to focus on a few areas of your life you want to excel, the bitches will come. Happiness comes from within. I can tlel you internal happiness with myself is greater than any validation from others. right now you dont have your own validation. Get involved/practice a sport. Start meditating to work on your flaws(if your serious I can point you in right direction). Do Yoga. Excel at your job. Spend time with family/pets. Get a hobby and excel at that, could be anything from videogames, guns, martial arts, gardening, ****ing whatever.
your already bilingual, that **** is impressive.
Dude look at the pic he posted a few posts above. He's a good looking guy, way above average considering what the average dude in the world looks like.
OP you need to stop cold approaches. Unless it's a setting with alcohol, it's usually just awkward and will make you feel like **** afterwards.
You just need to focus on a few areas of your life you want to excel, the bitches will come. Happiness comes from within. I can tlel you internal happiness with myself is greater than any validation from others. right now you dont have your own validation. Get involved/practice a sport. Start meditating to work on your flaws(if your serious I can point you in right direction). Do Yoga. Excel at your job. Spend time with family/pets. Get a hobby and excel at that, could be anything from videogames, guns, martial arts, gardening, ****ing whatever.
your already bilingual, that **** is impressive.
Dude look at the pic he posted a few posts above. He's a good looking guy, way above average considering what the average dude in the world looks like.
You have great potential and your time will come. Focus on the positve and set SMALL goals. If you are afraid of talking to strangers don't go out and say "I'll aproach ten hot girls today". Do really small steps, for example:
Day 1: ask one stranger random question
Day 2: talk to random stranger for one minute (eg question and followup question)
Day 3: ask hot girls questions (direction, time, you already did that)
Day 4: ask hot girls questions and throw in a compliment while talking to them (I like your ... / whatever)
you get my point, accomplishing small goals every day is better than not accomplishing huge goals every day
**stand up and prosper crew**
07-05-2016, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted By chilloppy⏩
hey man if it worked for you, more power to you!I disagree, if OP goes into it with a mindset of overcoming his anxiety, cold approaches can be great to accomplish this goal. OP, just don't turn into an autistic PUA who talks to 1000 girls a week but fuks zero. Keep working on yourself in different areas, you are already doing great from what you've written!
I just think it's better to get involved with stuff where you can focus on whatever that activity is, and mingle with the people as a side result of doing that activity/task together. Not talking to people just for the sake of talking to them. It's more natural this way, less intimidating, and the interactions tend to end more positively. Cold approaching is something I almost never see people do IRL. People just got to find a crowd that's suited to them.
I think for someone like this, it's better to get involved with **** with the main purpose being the activity
07-05-2016, 08:08 AM
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spend a week or two at the beach and your acne will go
07-05-2016, 08:24 AM
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Cold approaches work very well if you are attractive and have good social skill with women. How do you most quickly get good social skill with women? Cold approaches (with a structured guidance program if you're not a natural, there are plenty of them out there, the best overall site probably beingwww.girlschase.com).
For the attractive part, you need a few things:
1. Leanness. Being lean = WAY better facial aesthetics, and I mean way better. Being lean enough to have optimal facial aesthetics makes most guys look tiny as hell, though, so having enough muscle to look at least fit is all that is necessary. You're probably already there in terms of muscle mass (girls don't demand a lot of muscle), you just need to get a bit leaner.
2. Clear skin. I had acne worse than you (seriously, **** acne) as a teenager. What ended up working for me in the end was the acne.org regimen -- basically, benzoyl peroxide (2.5%) morning and night with proper facial cleansing and moisturizing. However, recently a tool was released that is even better than that, called the PMD (https://getpmd.com/);better insofar as it can resurface your skin over time and get rid of any acne scars you have left, as well as being an unbelievably effective tool at preventing acne from forming in the first place. I had a decent amount of acne scars (though, luckily, my skin seems incredibly resistant to scarring of any kind, and so it was not nearly as bad as my previous acne would have caused on other people) and the PMD, over half a year or so, made my skin smooth as hell.
3. Style. You need a better haircut and better clothes, follow pretty much any of the advice given in this thread for those.
4. A tan. Easiest way to get a tan that looks great for someone who can't tan well (I'm assuming you can't?) is to get some melanotan-2 and use tanning beds 1-2x per week for a relatively small amount of time (4-5 minutes, where you inject half a dose of melanotan-2 15 minutes before tanning, then right after -- something like 150mcg before, 150mcg after). Melanotan-2 is an injectable peptide, so you'll have to learn about that jazz, but used in small doses is quite the ease-of-life booster.
Quickest way to boost the hell out of your aesthetic goals: go on a relatively low-carb and low-sodium diet. This is mostly for minimizing water retention in your body and face, and will likely make you lean down nicely as well. Start using the PMD right away, and since it will make your skin more absorbent, you can properly use skin-tone appropriate BB cream. BB cream is basically like a really good tinted moisturizer which, if used sparingly, is 100% invisible to people but improves the look of your skin by an incredible amount. If you feel like that's gay because it's basically like wearing makeup, have fun living life invisibly caged in the "gotta act like a man" zone where grooming for more than 5 minutes is embarrassing to you. Cheat to win as much as possible, because winning is all that matters.
Good luck bro!
For the attractive part, you need a few things:
1. Leanness. Being lean = WAY better facial aesthetics, and I mean way better. Being lean enough to have optimal facial aesthetics makes most guys look tiny as hell, though, so having enough muscle to look at least fit is all that is necessary. You're probably already there in terms of muscle mass (girls don't demand a lot of muscle), you just need to get a bit leaner.
2. Clear skin. I had acne worse than you (seriously, **** acne) as a teenager. What ended up working for me in the end was the acne.org regimen -- basically, benzoyl peroxide (2.5%) morning and night with proper facial cleansing and moisturizing. However, recently a tool was released that is even better than that, called the PMD (https://getpmd.com/);better insofar as it can resurface your skin over time and get rid of any acne scars you have left, as well as being an unbelievably effective tool at preventing acne from forming in the first place. I had a decent amount of acne scars (though, luckily, my skin seems incredibly resistant to scarring of any kind, and so it was not nearly as bad as my previous acne would have caused on other people) and the PMD, over half a year or so, made my skin smooth as hell.
3. Style. You need a better haircut and better clothes, follow pretty much any of the advice given in this thread for those.
4. A tan. Easiest way to get a tan that looks great for someone who can't tan well (I'm assuming you can't?) is to get some melanotan-2 and use tanning beds 1-2x per week for a relatively small amount of time (4-5 minutes, where you inject half a dose of melanotan-2 15 minutes before tanning, then right after -- something like 150mcg before, 150mcg after). Melanotan-2 is an injectable peptide, so you'll have to learn about that jazz, but used in small doses is quite the ease-of-life booster.
Quickest way to boost the hell out of your aesthetic goals: go on a relatively low-carb and low-sodium diet. This is mostly for minimizing water retention in your body and face, and will likely make you lean down nicely as well. Start using the PMD right away, and since it will make your skin more absorbent, you can properly use skin-tone appropriate BB cream. BB cream is basically like a really good tinted moisturizer which, if used sparingly, is 100% invisible to people but improves the look of your skin by an incredible amount. If you feel like that's gay because it's basically like wearing makeup, have fun living life invisibly caged in the "gotta act like a man" zone where grooming for more than 5 minutes is embarrassing to you. Cheat to win as much as possible, because winning is all that matters.
Good luck bro!
07-05-2016, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted By HairyCrotchGuy⏩
you have to get rid of that deep inside mentality. and agreed on the friends thing. feelsbadman. but there are legit people out there just gotta look. i mean you cant be the only one right?Then you should know how hard it is to find a real friend. Everyone just wants to smash girls and get money and wont hesitate to fuk you over for those things. I've grown apart with basically all my friends and now we're just aquaintances. Even the very closest bros who would never keep anything a secret from me.
Thanks brahs, helped to cheer me up a bit after today's failure. Will try again tomorrow
I think its a great idea. I dont really have anything to lose and some of them would for sure like me. Consciously I know this but deep inside im still a scared child.
Thanks brahs, helped to cheer me up a bit after today's failure. Will try again tomorrow
I think its a great idea. I dont really have anything to lose and some of them would for sure like me. Consciously I know this but deep inside im still a scared child.
Originally Posted By Lolip0p⏩
and what are your qualifications of certified slayer???I recommend reading the below books. Buy an ebook reader and download them
How to Win Friends and Influence People
Power of Now
The Power of Your Subconcious Mind
Art of War
48 Laws of Power
7 Habits of Highly Effective People
What Everybody is Saying
No More Mr Nice Guy
The Art of Seduction
The Manipulated Man
I also recommend spending a session with a prostitute. I did it years ago, not because I was FA but because I wanted to change myself. I spent the hour with her teaching me to be the one in control with sex and to better my conversations with woman. We role played with me trying to pick her up and flirt. I was at ease because there was no pressure. She fixed many of my mistakes and I stopped putting woman on a pedestral and learned to take charge. The books above and my visit to a prostitute made me the alpha I am today. I say that to anyone else here as well. So many FA here, but even if you start getting woman it doesn't change much. You need to start changing your thinking, break a womans overbearing self esteem and stop giving them attention
I'll share my best pickup trick as well. Stare at her while she's facing to the side and make sure there's no one and nothing interesting behind you. As she turns to look over, move your eyes slowly to something behind her. Slowly, not fast. Then quickly move your eyes onto her. Our brains can easily notice quick movements of others eyes, but not if you move them slowly. It will look like she was staring. Then you smile and walk over and make a joke. Very easy way to approach anyone regardless of gender or age
How to Win Friends and Influence People
Power of Now
The Power of Your Subconcious Mind
Art of War
48 Laws of Power
7 Habits of Highly Effective People
What Everybody is Saying
No More Mr Nice Guy
The Art of Seduction
The Manipulated Man
I also recommend spending a session with a prostitute. I did it years ago, not because I was FA but because I wanted to change myself. I spent the hour with her teaching me to be the one in control with sex and to better my conversations with woman. We role played with me trying to pick her up and flirt. I was at ease because there was no pressure. She fixed many of my mistakes and I stopped putting woman on a pedestral and learned to take charge. The books above and my visit to a prostitute made me the alpha I am today. I say that to anyone else here as well. So many FA here, but even if you start getting woman it doesn't change much. You need to start changing your thinking, break a womans overbearing self esteem and stop giving them attention
I'll share my best pickup trick as well. Stare at her while she's facing to the side and make sure there's no one and nothing interesting behind you. As she turns to look over, move your eyes slowly to something behind her. Slowly, not fast. Then quickly move your eyes onto her. Our brains can easily notice quick movements of others eyes, but not if you move them slowly. It will look like she was staring. Then you smile and walk over and make a joke. Very easy way to approach anyone regardless of gender or age
Originally Posted By Garados⏩
look good, feel good.I'm not sure why everyones solution is "get a hair style". I don't think it matters much. get what you are most comfortable with. The only thing lookswise I think is the skin, but of course OP already knows that.
OP you need to stop cold approaches. Unless it's a setting with alcohol, it's usually just awkward and will make you feel like **** afterwards.
You just need to focus on a few areas of your life you want to excel, the bitches will come. Happiness comes from within. I can tlel you internal happiness with myself is greater than any validation from others. right now you dont have your own validation. Get involved/practice a sport. Start meditating to work on your flaws(if your serious I can point you in right direction). Do Yoga. Excel at your job. Spend time with family/pets. Get a hobby and excel at that, could be anything from videogames, guns, martial arts, gardening, ****ing whatever.
your already bilingual, that **** is impressive.
Dude look at the pic he posted a few posts above. He's a good looking guy, way above average considering what the average dude in the world looks like.
OP you need to stop cold approaches. Unless it's a setting with alcohol, it's usually just awkward and will make you feel like **** afterwards.
You just need to focus on a few areas of your life you want to excel, the bitches will come. Happiness comes from within. I can tlel you internal happiness with myself is greater than any validation from others. right now you dont have your own validation. Get involved/practice a sport. Start meditating to work on your flaws(if your serious I can point you in right direction). Do Yoga. Excel at your job. Spend time with family/pets. Get a hobby and excel at that, could be anything from videogames, guns, martial arts, gardening, ****ing whatever.
your already bilingual, that **** is impressive.
Dude look at the pic he posted a few posts above. He's a good looking guy, way above average considering what the average dude in the world looks like.
having a modern stylish cut does feel amazing and can boost your attractiveness by alot. girls care a lot about hair these days man. a fresh cut is a game changer brah srs.
and he's ok looking. has potential but 8 is a reach, closer to a 6. pretty average in facial aesthetics but has a good hairline, height and build.
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Originally Posted By Translocator⏩
1: Im most likely around 13% bf at the moment. Not super lean but not fat either. Still small. I'll keep gaining for now so I can go on a good cut for next summer.Cold approaches work very well if you are attractive and have good social skill with women. How do you most quickly get good social skill with women? Cold approaches (with a structured guidance program if you're not a natural, there are plenty of them out there, the best overall site probably beingwww.girlschase.com).
For the attractive part, you need a few things:
1. Leanness. Being lean = WAY better facial aesthetics, and I mean way better. Being lean enough to have optimal facial aesthetics makes most guys look tiny as hell, though, so having enough muscle to look at least fit is all that is necessary. You're probably already there in terms of muscle mass (girls don't demand a lot of muscle), you just need to get a bit leaner.
2. Clear skin. I had acne worse than you (seriously, **** acne) as a teenager. What ended up working for me in the end was the acne.org regimen -- basically, benzoyl peroxide (2.5%) morning and night with proper facial cleansing and moisturizing. However, recently a tool was released that is even better than that, called the PMD (https://getpmd.com/);better insofar as it can resurface your skin over time and get rid of any acne scars you have left, as well as being an unbelievably effective tool at preventing acne from forming in the first place. I had a decent amount of acne scars (though, luckily, my skin seems incredibly resistant to scarring of any kind, and so it was not nearly as bad as my previous acne would have caused on other people) and the PMD, over half a year or so, made my skin smooth as hell.
3. Style. You need a better haircut and better clothes, follow pretty much any of the advice given in this thread for those.
4. A tan. Easiest way to get a tan that looks great for someone who can't tan well (I'm assuming you can't?) is to get some melanotan-2 and use tanning beds 1-2x per week for a relatively small amount of time (4-5 minutes, where you inject half a dose of melanotan-2 15 minutes before tanning, then right after -- something like 150mcg before, 150mcg after). Melanotan-2 is an injectable peptide, so you'll have to learn about that jazz, but used in small doses is quite the ease-of-life booster.
Quickest way to boost the hell out of your aesthetic goals: go on a relatively low-carb and low-sodium diet. This is mostly for minimizing water retention in your body and face, and will likely make you lean down nicely as well. Start using the PMD right away, and since it will make your skin more absorbent, you can properly use skin-tone appropriate BB cream. BB cream is basically like a really good tinted moisturizer which, if used sparingly, is 100% invisible to people but improves the look of your skin by an incredible amount. If you feel like that's gay because it's basically like wearing makeup, have fun living life invisibly caged in the "gotta act like a man" zone where grooming for more than 5 minutes is embarrassing to you. Cheat to win as much as possible, because winning is all that matters.
Good luck bro!
For the attractive part, you need a few things:
1. Leanness. Being lean = WAY better facial aesthetics, and I mean way better. Being lean enough to have optimal facial aesthetics makes most guys look tiny as hell, though, so having enough muscle to look at least fit is all that is necessary. You're probably already there in terms of muscle mass (girls don't demand a lot of muscle), you just need to get a bit leaner.
2. Clear skin. I had acne worse than you (seriously, **** acne) as a teenager. What ended up working for me in the end was the acne.org regimen -- basically, benzoyl peroxide (2.5%) morning and night with proper facial cleansing and moisturizing. However, recently a tool was released that is even better than that, called the PMD (https://getpmd.com/);better insofar as it can resurface your skin over time and get rid of any acne scars you have left, as well as being an unbelievably effective tool at preventing acne from forming in the first place. I had a decent amount of acne scars (though, luckily, my skin seems incredibly resistant to scarring of any kind, and so it was not nearly as bad as my previous acne would have caused on other people) and the PMD, over half a year or so, made my skin smooth as hell.
3. Style. You need a better haircut and better clothes, follow pretty much any of the advice given in this thread for those.
4. A tan. Easiest way to get a tan that looks great for someone who can't tan well (I'm assuming you can't?) is to get some melanotan-2 and use tanning beds 1-2x per week for a relatively small amount of time (4-5 minutes, where you inject half a dose of melanotan-2 15 minutes before tanning, then right after -- something like 150mcg before, 150mcg after). Melanotan-2 is an injectable peptide, so you'll have to learn about that jazz, but used in small doses is quite the ease-of-life booster.
Quickest way to boost the hell out of your aesthetic goals: go on a relatively low-carb and low-sodium diet. This is mostly for minimizing water retention in your body and face, and will likely make you lean down nicely as well. Start using the PMD right away, and since it will make your skin more absorbent, you can properly use skin-tone appropriate BB cream. BB cream is basically like a really good tinted moisturizer which, if used sparingly, is 100% invisible to people but improves the look of your skin by an incredible amount. If you feel like that's gay because it's basically like wearing makeup, have fun living life invisibly caged in the "gotta act like a man" zone where grooming for more than 5 minutes is embarrassing to you. Cheat to win as much as possible, because winning is all that matters.
Good luck bro!
2: Will check in with a dermatologist soon, hear what he thinks of acne.org stuff
3: yeah
4: Not enough research yet for me to trust it. Feel free to argue on this
5: Thanks for the tip
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Were you once an incel as well? With that jawline, im guessing not
Originally Posted By Victorious⏩
Well I'm not gonna learn how to approach them without approaching them. Gotta start somewhereI'm curious to know - maybe its already been mentioned or addressed in this thread - but why not work on bettering yourself through education, travel/culture, working, making money, and furthering yourself on a more personal level, as opposed to seeking out broads and making yourself look foolish in the long run (since you apparently have no idea how to approach them for the sole purpose of getting a number)?
I have a plan for all the other stuff too. Gonna finish my drivers license, then save up some cash and move to the capital city, have a really good job prospect there. This should let me have enough $$$ and time to pursue my other interests. I don't post much about that stuff here but I have a plan for everything.
Originally Posted By chilloppy⏩
Ill try this. You don't just go straight for a 1RM before warming up right. Perhaps its no different for talking to girls.I disagree, if OP goes into it with a mindset of overcoming his anxiety, cold approaches can be great to accomplish this goal. OP, just don't turn into an autistic PUA who talks to 1000 girls a week but fuks zero. Keep working on yourself in different areas, you are already doing great from what you've written!
You have great potential and your time will come. Focus on the positve and set SMALL goals. If you are afraid of talking to strangers don't go out and say "I'll aproach ten hot girls today". Do really small steps, for example:
Day 1: ask one stranger random question
Day 2: talk to random stranger for one minute (eg question and followup question)
Day 3: ask hot girls questions (direction, time, you already did that)
Day 4: ask hot girls questions and throw in a compliment while talking to them (I like your ... / whatever)
you get my point, accomplishing small goals every day is better than not accomplishing huge goals every day
You have great potential and your time will come. Focus on the positve and set SMALL goals. If you are afraid of talking to strangers don't go out and say "I'll aproach ten hot girls today". Do really small steps, for example:
Day 1: ask one stranger random question
Day 2: talk to random stranger for one minute (eg question and followup question)
Day 3: ask hot girls questions (direction, time, you already did that)
Day 4: ask hot girls questions and throw in a compliment while talking to them (I like your ... / whatever)
you get my point, accomplishing small goals every day is better than not accomplishing huge goals every day
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Fukin lmao been drinking for 6 days straight now
Heading out to harass people right now. Seems like being drunk really improves my mood. But at what cost
Heading out to harass people right now. Seems like being drunk really improves my mood. But at what cost
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Originally Posted By Translocator⏩
Now thats some dedication to aestheticsCold approaches work very well if you are attractive and have good social skill with women. How do you most quickly get good social skill with women? Cold approaches (with a structured guidance program if you're not a natural, there are plenty of them out there, the best overall site probably beingwww.girlschase.com).
For the attractive part, you need a few things:
1. Leanness. Being lean = WAY better facial aesthetics, and I mean way better. Being lean enough to have optimal facial aesthetics makes most guys look tiny as hell, though, so having enough muscle to look at least fit is all that is necessary. You're probably already there in terms of muscle mass (girls don't demand a lot of muscle), you just need to get a bit leaner.
2. Clear skin. I had acne worse than you (seriously, **** acne) as a teenager. What ended up working for me in the end was the acne.org regimen -- basically, benzoyl peroxide (2.5%) morning and night with proper facial cleansing and moisturizing. However, recently a tool was released that is even better than that, called the PMD (https://getpmd.com/);better insofar as it can resurface your skin over time and get rid of any acne scars you have left, as well as being an unbelievably effective tool at preventing acne from forming in the first place. I had a decent amount of acne scars (though, luckily, my skin seems incredibly resistant to scarring of any kind, and so it was not nearly as bad as my previous acne would have caused on other people) and the PMD, over half a year or so, made my skin smooth as hell.
3. Style. You need a better haircut and better clothes, follow pretty much any of the advice given in this thread for those.
4. A tan. Easiest way to get a tan that looks great for someone who can't tan well (I'm assuming you can't?) is to get some melanotan-2 and use tanning beds 1-2x per week for a relatively small amount of time (4-5 minutes, where you inject half a dose of melanotan-2 15 minutes before tanning, then right after -- something like 150mcg before, 150mcg after). Melanotan-2 is an injectable peptide, so you'll have to learn about that jazz, but used in small doses is quite the ease-of-life booster.
Quickest way to boost the hell out of your aesthetic goals: go on a relatively low-carb and low-sodium diet. This is mostly for minimizing water retention in your body and face, and will likely make you lean down nicely as well. Start using the PMD right away, and since it will make your skin more absorbent, you can properly use skin-tone appropriate BB cream. BB cream is basically like a really good tinted moisturizer which, if used sparingly, is 100% invisible to people but improves the look of your skin by an incredible amount. If you feel like that's gay because it's basically like wearing makeup, have fun living life invisibly caged in the "gotta act like a man" zone where grooming for more than 5 minutes is embarrassing to you. Cheat to win as much as possible, because winning is all that matters.
Good luck bro!
For the attractive part, you need a few things:
1. Leanness. Being lean = WAY better facial aesthetics, and I mean way better. Being lean enough to have optimal facial aesthetics makes most guys look tiny as hell, though, so having enough muscle to look at least fit is all that is necessary. You're probably already there in terms of muscle mass (girls don't demand a lot of muscle), you just need to get a bit leaner.
2. Clear skin. I had acne worse than you (seriously, **** acne) as a teenager. What ended up working for me in the end was the acne.org regimen -- basically, benzoyl peroxide (2.5%) morning and night with proper facial cleansing and moisturizing. However, recently a tool was released that is even better than that, called the PMD (https://getpmd.com/);better insofar as it can resurface your skin over time and get rid of any acne scars you have left, as well as being an unbelievably effective tool at preventing acne from forming in the first place. I had a decent amount of acne scars (though, luckily, my skin seems incredibly resistant to scarring of any kind, and so it was not nearly as bad as my previous acne would have caused on other people) and the PMD, over half a year or so, made my skin smooth as hell.
3. Style. You need a better haircut and better clothes, follow pretty much any of the advice given in this thread for those.
4. A tan. Easiest way to get a tan that looks great for someone who can't tan well (I'm assuming you can't?) is to get some melanotan-2 and use tanning beds 1-2x per week for a relatively small amount of time (4-5 minutes, where you inject half a dose of melanotan-2 15 minutes before tanning, then right after -- something like 150mcg before, 150mcg after). Melanotan-2 is an injectable peptide, so you'll have to learn about that jazz, but used in small doses is quite the ease-of-life booster.
Quickest way to boost the hell out of your aesthetic goals: go on a relatively low-carb and low-sodium diet. This is mostly for minimizing water retention in your body and face, and will likely make you lean down nicely as well. Start using the PMD right away, and since it will make your skin more absorbent, you can properly use skin-tone appropriate BB cream. BB cream is basically like a really good tinted moisturizer which, if used sparingly, is 100% invisible to people but improves the look of your skin by an incredible amount. If you feel like that's gay because it's basically like wearing makeup, have fun living life invisibly caged in the "gotta act like a man" zone where grooming for more than 5 minutes is embarrassing to you. Cheat to win as much as possible, because winning is all that matters.
Good luck bro!
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Op you need to go out with one friend when you do cold approaches , The buddy system should for force you to jump off the cliff. Keep on doing the cold approaches daily. Remember that this is a skill that needs to be trained. Look back at the first day you hit the gym, you didn't know how to do anything and felt nervous as fuk. Eventually you got over this feeling once you started learning the ways of lifting. It's the same thing with cold approaching ..... You got this young fella.
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Went out clubbing again today and it was a pretty good night. Met 2 girls and a finnish guy and I took em to play pool after the club closed. Had some good moments with one of the girls but my autism killed me. Everything was going smooth as butter, I even walked her right to her fkin home when...
She says "it's a really long way for you to get home, are you really gonna walk that?"
"yea, where else could I go? haha, cya."
I saw the confusion in her eyes and immediately realized what I just did but it was already too late. Brahs why teh fuk did she have to give me some retarded hints instead of just asking if i wanna come in. Lmao. I didn't even ask for any of her contact details. Pretty sure I can find her on ******** with what I know, but don't know if there is any point now that I went full autism
She says "it's a really long way for you to get home, are you really gonna walk that?"
"yea, where else could I go? haha, cya."
I saw the confusion in her eyes and immediately realized what I just did but it was already too late. Brahs why teh fuk did she have to give me some retarded hints instead of just asking if i wanna come in. Lmao. I didn't even ask for any of her contact details. Pretty sure I can find her on ******** with what I know, but don't know if there is any point now that I went full autism
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You are tall and have blue eyes, you gonna make it OP. Just stop touching your face and grow your hair out unless you are balding hard.
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Look into changing your diet. Srs, people that get skin like that ( I did in highschool) usually are allergic/ intolerant/ sensitive to dairy or gluten but eat alot anyway.
Giving up dairy, butter, and cheese did wonders for my skin
Giving up dairy, butter, and cheese did wonders for my skin
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get on da der accutane
take it day by day.
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take it day by day.
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acne in 2016 lmao
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I was wondering what happened to you, OP. You haven't been in the RH for awhile.
You're a good looking guy. Don't cold approach if you are socially awkward, it's not even worth the anxiety. Practice talking to women online, then progress to real life.
You're a good looking guy. Don't cold approach if you are socially awkward, it's not even worth the anxiety. Practice talking to women online, then progress to real life.
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Pretty much guaranteed to make it eventually based on this alone. But I would really go with this guy's advice:
So how to meet girls? Well again I would follow this guy's advice and get involved in social activities like college clubs, volunteering etc. This will allow you to meet lots of people without having to cold approach like an autist. And you will build relationships with people over time which will help a lot for your confidence and social skills.
Another option is approaching girls in places where they actually go to meet people like clubs, bars, and parties. This is better than cold approaching because it's not weird to approach girls in these situations and they are expecting/wanting to get approached.
cliffs:
-don't cold approach
-stick to social activities/clubs/parties etc
-you need clear skin because it's all about the face
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Pretty much guaranteed to make it eventually based on this alone. But I would really go with this guy's advice:
Originally Posted By datwalltho⏩
When I first started improving myself as you're doing now, I started cold approaching because it was what I saw in youtube videos and I thought it would actually work in real life. But it just doesn't. Nobody meets that way in real life. It's just gonna waste your time and make you look like one of those weird desperate guys that's always bothering women when they're trying to go about their day.Hey man, I made this account for guys like you. I was in a similar situation years ago and did a ton of self-improvement when I became aware.
The great thing is that you are aware of the need to improve. I want to give you a few tips:
1) Don't do cold approaches. Attractive women do not like to get bothered in the middle of the day. If will drop your confidence. Only low-value men do cold day approaches;
2) Instead of cold approaching to get to know women, get involved in social events that have a lot of women, such as (college) classes, mixed sports teams, a part-time job at cafe. The great thing about these things is they improve you in other ways than just social skills and social circle;
3) You need to improve your wardrobe. The easiest way to do this is, when you find yourself in social circles, look at what the high-value men are wearing and copy it. No need to reinvent the wheel. Pay particular attention to the fit. Fit trumps style/colors/brands. If you have a good body, as you seem to have, well-fitted clothes usually are slim-fit. Until you know exactly what to buy, keep it simple. No jackets and other fancy stuff, you are not on that level yet. Keep your clothes clean and fresh;
4) The misc jokes about facial aesthetics being most important, but they really are. This means getting a haircut regularly, whitening teeth and, maybe most importantly, you need a skin regimen. A lot of stuff is available these days that can make your acne-ridden skin look almost flawlessly. Look into that more deeply and if needed, consult an expert. In any case, you can start off with a basic regimen regardless. A basic regimen consists of face wash and moisturizer for your face + moisturizer for around your eyes. More extended regimens are available on the Internet. Biggest mistake people make with skin regimens is that they apply the stuff too harshly with their fingers on their face, while you need to carefully apply the stuff. That is, you should barely touch your face while washing and applying stuff.
These are the things just off the top of my head. If I remember other stuff I will add it in this topic.
The great thing is that you are aware of the need to improve. I want to give you a few tips:
1) Don't do cold approaches. Attractive women do not like to get bothered in the middle of the day. If will drop your confidence. Only low-value men do cold day approaches;
2) Instead of cold approaching to get to know women, get involved in social events that have a lot of women, such as (college) classes, mixed sports teams, a part-time job at cafe. The great thing about these things is they improve you in other ways than just social skills and social circle;
3) You need to improve your wardrobe. The easiest way to do this is, when you find yourself in social circles, look at what the high-value men are wearing and copy it. No need to reinvent the wheel. Pay particular attention to the fit. Fit trumps style/colors/brands. If you have a good body, as you seem to have, well-fitted clothes usually are slim-fit. Until you know exactly what to buy, keep it simple. No jackets and other fancy stuff, you are not on that level yet. Keep your clothes clean and fresh;
4) The misc jokes about facial aesthetics being most important, but they really are. This means getting a haircut regularly, whitening teeth and, maybe most importantly, you need a skin regimen. A lot of stuff is available these days that can make your acne-ridden skin look almost flawlessly. Look into that more deeply and if needed, consult an expert. In any case, you can start off with a basic regimen regardless. A basic regimen consists of face wash and moisturizer for your face + moisturizer for around your eyes. More extended regimens are available on the Internet. Biggest mistake people make with skin regimens is that they apply the stuff too harshly with their fingers on their face, while you need to carefully apply the stuff. That is, you should barely touch your face while washing and applying stuff.
These are the things just off the top of my head. If I remember other stuff I will add it in this topic.
So how to meet girls? Well again I would follow this guy's advice and get involved in social activities like college clubs, volunteering etc. This will allow you to meet lots of people without having to cold approach like an autist. And you will build relationships with people over time which will help a lot for your confidence and social skills.
Another option is approaching girls in places where they actually go to meet people like clubs, bars, and parties. This is better than cold approaching because it's not weird to approach girls in these situations and they are expecting/wanting to get approached.
cliffs:
-don't cold approach
-stick to social activities/clubs/parties etc
-you need clear skin because it's all about the face
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Cliffs of my day:
-continue drinking as soon as I wake up
-get a buzz going
-roam around the city, alone, looking for sloots to approach. Too scared, still.
-meet up with drink buddies
-continue getting drunk
-enter the club
-alpha af, leading conversations, introducing people, etc
-sloot complains no one takes her dancing
-I take her dancing
-We grind, kiss, etc
-Some dude which I assume is her boyfriend rolls up and is telling me to back off
- I ignore him, but can tell the girl is uncomfortable going full sloot mode with him around
- Give her a signal to meet me outside, I go first and she sneaks out to me after some minutes
- I talk her into going for a short walk
- Her bf follows us around, while we're just feeling each other up, holding hands and laughing about him
- Go dance, grind and make out some more in the club
- Take her number, then leave
Overall I'm pleased with what I did today. I held strong eye contact with people, was very friendly, talked with confidence and held nothing back.
Feels good mane
-continue drinking as soon as I wake up
-get a buzz going
-roam around the city, alone, looking for sloots to approach. Too scared, still.
-meet up with drink buddies
-continue getting drunk
-enter the club
-alpha af, leading conversations, introducing people, etc
-sloot complains no one takes her dancing
-I take her dancing
-We grind, kiss, etc
-Some dude which I assume is her boyfriend rolls up and is telling me to back off
- I ignore him, but can tell the girl is uncomfortable going full sloot mode with him around
- Give her a signal to meet me outside, I go first and she sneaks out to me after some minutes
- I talk her into going for a short walk
- Her bf follows us around, while we're just feeling each other up, holding hands and laughing about him
- Go dance, grind and make out some more in the club
- Take her number, then leave
Overall I'm pleased with what I did today. I held strong eye contact with people, was very friendly, talked with confidence and held nothing back.
Feels good mane
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should i wear a scarf today?
also, check out this cool statue of an alpha male killing an incel beta

thought the misc would like it
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