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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
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Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

How exactly is the quran different from the bible again?????
You're 29 years old and you're this naive. Absolutely incredible that this is your argument. Name a Christian nation where the majority practices this. Otherwise you're wasting our time.
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
More potato-speak from a cuckservative

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

How exactly is the quran different from the bible again?????
Comparing a Christian USA where the only threat the LGTB community face is gay marriage/being able to use public restrooms vs. being able to be legally killed in Muslim countries led by the Quran & Sharia Law is beyond stupid.


What do all these 10 countries have in common where being gay is punishable by death? Filled with moronic Muslims


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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
You're 29 years old and you're this naive. Absolutely incredible that this is your argument. Name a Christian nation where the majority practices this. Otherwise you're wasting our time.
So christians are better because they don't actually follow the teachings of their religion?

I think that's called being a hypocrite. But yea, bravo for that I guess?
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
Wrong. Maybe you should pay more attention in civics class and less attention in sunday school.
Maybe you should. Regardless of what it says in the constitution, this nation was founded by people that sought their own religious freedom, not that of others. America's puritanical beginnings is reflected in many of our laws even today.
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
More potato-speak from a cuckservative

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

How exactly is the quran different from the bible again?????
Since your carb daze makes it hard for you to pay attention, here are the differences between Islam and Christianity:
1.BOTH religions are abrogated, BUT Islam gets more violent as it goes along (as Mohammad travels from Mecca to Medina) while Christianity becomes less violent as Christ returns
2.To Christians Christ is the ultimate example, the worst that can be said about him is that he flipped over a few tables and he pissed off some religious clerics
3.To Muslims Mohammad is the ultimate example for them to follow, Mohammad was a ****phile, slave owner and war monger
4.Christianity has the 10 commandments



5.Islam has Sharia law



6.Islam is as much a lifestyle/political ideology as it is a "religion," Christianity is not even close
7.Islam has NO golden rule (apostates/kafirs are fair game), Christianity does
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts⏩
Comparing a Christian USA where the only threat the LGTB community face is gay marriage/being able to use public restrooms
Well I guess we're not a very christian USA then, are we?

Of course not, because we're a secular nation. That's what I've been saying.
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Sharia Law violates the civil liberties of anyone under its jurisdiction. What now OP?
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Originally Posted By Andrew99⏩
Maybe you should. Regardless of what it says in the constitution, this nation was founded by people that sought their own religious freedom, not that of others. America's puritanical beginnings is reflected in many of our laws even today.
The constitution guarantees religious freedom for all. Laws with an overt religious purpose are blatantly unconstitutional and can be quickly and easily struck down.
Originally Posted By NVious⏩
5.Islam has Sharia law

Sounds like christians who are fans of the death penalty would get along pretty well with these folks, if only they weren't so xenophobic
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Sharia Law violates the civil liberties of anyone under its jurisdiction. What now OP?
Civil liberties differ from nation to nation.

American civil liberties aren't the defining factor for all nations. That's why Americans demonize nations that don't align themselves with their interpretation of what civil liberties mean. Nations like Korea, China, Russia, Mid East, etc.
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
The constitution guarantees religious freedom for all. Laws with an overt religious purpose are blatantly unconstitutional and can be quickly and easily struck down.



Sounds like christians who are fans of the death penalty would get along pretty well with these folks, if only they weren't so xenophobic
Great argument you disgusting blimp.

HERP DERP CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM IS THE SAME

Actually no they're not, here are all the reasons why

HAHAHAHAH THEY'D GET ALONG!!!!!

Just go have another donut you fat pig, philosophy isn't for you.
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Great argument you disgusting blimp.

HERP DERP CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM IS THE SAME

Actually no they're not, here are all the reasons why

HAHAHAHAH THEY'D GET ALONG!!!!!

Just go have another donut you fat pig, philosophy isn't for you.
Personal attacks, a sure sign of losing an argument
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
Personal attacks, a sure sign of losing an argument
Not addressing a person's points, picking on one point and deflecting into something that has nothing to do with anything, a sure sign that you're thinking about your 3rd XL pizza and not about the argument.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
Civil liberties differ from nation to nation.

American civil liberties aren't the defining factor for all nations. That's why Americans demonize nations that don't align themselves with their interpretation of what civil liberties mean. Nations like Korea, China, Russia, Mid East, etc.
Do you want to live under sharia law?
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Ugh, thread has diminished into schoolyard bs again.

Later Griggz.
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Not addressing a person's points, picking on one point and deflecting into something that has nothing to do with anything, a sure sign that you're thinking about your 3rd XL pizza and not about the argument.
I did address your point. You claimed that islam was worse than christianity because it encourages killing non-believers and violent punishment of criminals. I pointed out that the bible also encourages killing non-believers, and some christians are also in favor of violent punishments for criminals.

Then you started whining and making personal attacks about my weight, because you lost the argument
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
I did address your point. You claimed that islam was worse than christianity because it encourages killing non-believers and violent punishment of criminals. I pointed out that the bible also encourages killing non-believers, and some christians are also in favor of violent punishments for criminals.

Then you started whining and making personal attacks about my weight, because you lost the argument
Actually no, I made 8 points, you didn't even address one except to make a cringe joke.

Leftists tend to be out of shape, your disgusting lifestyles should be derided as it clouds your judgement, next time if you don't want to be mocked for your gluttony, stick to the argument.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
Civil liberties differ from nation to nation.

American civil liberties aren't the defining factor for all nations. That's why Americans demonize nations that don't align themselves with their interpretation of what civil liberties mean. Nations like Korea, China, Russia, Mid East, etc.
You're a fool to deny American civil liberties are closest inline with common sense and freedom
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Actually no, I made 8 points, you didn't even address one except to make a cringe joke.

Leftists tend to be out of shape, your disgusting lifestyles should be derided as it clouds your judgement, next time if you don't want to be mocked for your gluttony, stick to the argument.
You copy and pasted 8 points of BS from somewhere. They were pretty much all about violence in islam, which christianity also has, so your post was pointless.

Keep it up with the personal attacks though. One of these times you're really gonna hurt my feelings!
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
You copy and pasted 8 points of BS from somewhere. They were pretty much all about violence in islam, which christianity also has, so your post was pointless.

Keep it up with the personal attacks though. One of these times you're really gonna hurt my feelings!
How is anything you're saying even close to an argument?

Even if I copied and pasted something, does that invalidate the argument?

Wrong, the points were about the difference in the violence found in Islam vs Christianity.

It's not about hurting your feelings, it's about establishing that leftist degenerates like you showcase self-destructive philosophies in your own life (i.e you clogging your arteries and stressing your family with your gluttony), so it makes sense that you would be a solipsist that doesn't believe in objective reality.
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Sharia Law containsJizya- which is aTAXon other religions.

The concept that "Islam" is "just a religion" is ignorant and any Muslim who claims otherwise is following another tenant of Islam calledTaqiyyawhich is to lie to your enemy (any non Muslim) until they can conquer you.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
Civil liberties differ from nation to nation.

American civil liberties aren't the defining factor for all nations. That's why Americans demonize nations that don't align themselves with their interpretation of what civil liberties mean. Nations like Korea, China, Russia, Mid East, etc.
Yeah, stoning women, hanging gays.. beheading people.. I think those are pretty universally recognized as violations of civil liberties.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
American Muslims don't know what Shariah is let alone have an opinion on its implementation in the West.
That's a lie.
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
How is anything you're saying even close to an argument?

Even if I copied and pasted something, does that invalidate the argument?

Wrong, the points were about the difference in the violence found in Islam vs Christianity.

It's not about hurting your feelings, it's about establishing that leftist degenerates like you showcase self-destructive philosophies in your own life (i.e you clogging your arteries and stressing your family with your gluttony), so it makes sense that you would be a solipsist that doesn't believe in objective reality.
Islam and Christianity both preach violence. Both the Bible and the Quran say to kill non believers.

Therefore the religions of Islam and Christianity are equally bad. Neither can claim the moral high ground.

How are the instructions of the religions followed?

Islam is followed quite literally by states like Iran and Saudi Arabia

Neither Christianity nor any religion is followed secular western nations

So if you have a criticism, it's against Iran/Saudi Arabia's human rights record, lack of secularism, etc. Those are the specific points you're bringing up.

Substantiated criticism of islam the religion? You have none.
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
Islam and Christianity both preach violence. Both the Bible and the Quran say to kill non believers.

Therefore the religions of Islam and Christianity are equally bad. Neither can claim the moral high ground.

How are the instructions of the religions followed?

Islam is followed quite literally by states like Iran and Saudi Arabia

Neither Christianity nor any religion is followed secular western nations

So if you have a criticism, it's against Iran/Saudi Arabia's human rights record, lack of secularism, etc. Those are the specific points you're bringing up.

Substantiated criticism of islam the religion? You have none.
Jesus doesn't preach that. You're thinking Jewish.
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
Islam and Christianity both preach violence. Both the Bible and the Quran say to kill non believers.

Therefore the religions of Islam and Christianity are equally bad. Neither can claim the moral high ground.

How are the instructions of the religions followed?

Islam is followed quite literally by states like Iran and Saudi Arabia

Neither Christianity nor any religion is followed secular western nations

So if you have a criticism, it's against Iran/Saudi Arabia's human rights record, lack of secularism, etc. Those are the specific points you're bringing up.

Substantiated criticism of islam the religion? You have none.
Except you don't see Christians preaching violence or killing non-believers. If you bring up the Crusades.. just lol.
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
Islam and Christianity both preach violence. Both the Bible and the Quran say to kill non believers.

Therefore the religions of Islam and Christianity are equally bad. Neither can claim the moral high ground.

How are the instructions of the religions followed?

Islam is followed quite literally by states like Iran and Saudi Arabia

Neither Christianity nor any religion is followed secular western nations

So if you have a criticism, it's against Iran/Saudi Arabia's human rights record, lack of secularism, etc. Those are the specific points you're bringing up.

Substantiated criticism of islam the religion? You have none.
Let's try it again:

1.BOTH religions are abrogated, BUT Islam gets more violent as it goes along (as Mohammad travels from Mecca to Medina) while Christianity becomes less violent as Christ returns

2.To Christians Christ is the ultimate example, the worst that can be said about him is that he flipped over a few tables and he pissed off some religious clerics, he mostly preached about loving everyone and was entirely non-violent

3.To Muslims Mohammad is the ultimate example for them to follow, Mohammad was a ****phile, slave owner and war monger

7.Islam has NO golden rule (apostates/kafirs are fair game), Christianity does
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Except you don't see Christians preaching violence or killing non-believers. If you bring up the Crusades.. just lol.
But if a christian did kill a non-believer, and tried to say he was following his religion, he would be held accountable as an individual, right? We wouldn't suddenly ban christianity.

But if a muslim kills a non-believer, and tried to say he was following his religion, would he be held accountable as an individual? He should be, but collectivists like you would probably try to condemn all of islam in the process
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
But if a christian did kill a non-believer, and tried to say he was following his religion, he would be held accountable as an individual, right? We wouldn't suddenly ban christianity.

But if a muslim kills a non-believer, and tried to say he was following his religion, would he be held accountable as an individual? He should be, but collectivists like you would probably try to condemn all of islam in the process
Yeah, except we're getting terrorist attacks in the name of Islam pretty much every fuking week now. How often do Christians kill people?
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