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Thread: Fla. man says his hands were up when police shot him

post 1453823953 07-21-2016, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
1. there is outrage over this stuff within the black community and has been for decades. You don't know because you arent in the black community and it has nothing to do with you.

2. There is a difference between thugs killing other thugs, which is the majority of violence in Chicago, and police officers sworn to protect the citizens murdering one race disproportiately and not being punished. if you cant see that.....go vote for trump
1. If there has been outrage for decades why has nothing changed, it's only gotten worse..? Do something about it! Riot in the streets, block traffic, bring BLM over and scream "what do we want" "we want dead thugs who are worthless", do whatever you must but harming innocent children has to fuking stop, period. It does have something to do with me, we live in the same country we are supposed to be UNITED. I love children and they have no chance in these areas because I guess most of the country isn't included because it has nothing to do with them and the locals obviously aren't handling the situation on their own... wow...

2. It's not the thugs killing thugs, it's the innocent people killed on the sidelines for no reason at all, that's the point. Those thugs are killing thousands of your people every year and you continue to let it happen, geez Obama has done soooooo much for black on black violence.... Now he's turning us (AMERICANS) against each other as well so it's just going to get worse and more will die. Cops are not just murdering one race (blacks), that's a bold faced lie. It's fact more whites and Latinos are shot every year, it's a fact! More facts for you. While only 13% of the population in the USA is black. 8% of America’s population are black men, yet they account for 40% of America’s total prison population. And the most amazing statistic of all, 33% of all crimes in America are committed by 3% of the population; blacks between the ages of 16 and 36. What are the avg ages of those blacks shot by cops? I would say this is the problem, it needs to be fixed from the inside out, and stop with all the blame games.. Use your resources changing the statistics! I do care, it has plenty to do with me, I have small children who have to grow up here. I'd like nothing more than to see everyone get along, and see those stats do a 360 degree turn for the better. I think all lives matter, but I'm sure you think I'm just some dumb racists, well whatever I don't even care.

I will go vote for Trump, thanks.
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Originally Posted By johsin28⏩
As someone who has served as a cop before he joined army and then Navy seal.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
you have to consider the fact that there are way more whites in american than blacks, so even if the number of blacks getting shot was equal to the number of whites getting shot, that suggests disproportionate focus on blacks. If all was equal you'd expect there to be many more whites getting shot than blacks
If you're going to do that you also have to take into account the following which only helps to prove my argument.
– FACT: Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks commit around half of homicides in the United States. DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.

More up to date FBI statistics tell a similar story. In 2013, black criminals carried out 38% of murders, compared to 31.1% for whites, again despite the fact that there are five times more white people in the U.S.

– FACT: From 2011 to 2013, 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13% black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15-34, who account for around 3% of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering.
That's nothing you say well let's broaden our viewpoint:
According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011, 2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.
But this doesn't take into account that blacks are unfairly targeted you say well according to the National Crime Victimization Survery: it shows that the number of blacks arrested generally correlates with the number of offenders identified as black byvictims.

But that's not fair you say! Also consider the following from the FBI statistics:

"An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

So tell me... when you look at the ACTUAL numbers and not just listen to the media can't you see where things are not as bad at they say they are!
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seems like a 100% fuk up on the cops part this time. although im curious as to what went down to result in i think he said 5 cops? behind their cruisers with rifles aimed at him
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Originally Posted By sv722⏩
This happens because they're not held accountable. It's that simple. Not to mention that most tend to be degenerate meatheads or ex military men with more issues than Vogue. It's a recipe for disaster.
Oh you mean not held accountable like prosecuted and charged while having their career ruined only for the truth to come out and find out the FACTS support their side of the story?
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Originally Posted By motivat3d⏩
It's true there are officers who are poorly trained or deal with fight or flight situations terribly. Butto paint a picture and generalize that all LEOs are the same, that's even more dangerous.
This. We should only generalize that all muslims are the same after a terrorist attack and that all blacks are the same after one guy robs a store. It isnt fair to do to cops who shot first and ask questions later.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
1. there is outrage over this stuff within the black community and has been for decades. You don't know because you arent in the black community and it has nothing to do with you.

2. There is a difference between thugs killing other thugs, which is the majority of violence in Chicago, and police officers sworn to protect the citizens murdering one race disproportiately and not being punished. if you cant see that.....go vote for trump
It does, it has gotten us to where we are now. You saying that is you segregating blacks from the rest of America, something they fought very hard AGAINST. Things are going backwards and will never go forward with your "us vs. them mentality." Same thing with the one BLM spokeswoman who says black communities should have their own courts/legal system to deal with their community in whatever way they see fit. That to me says they want to live by a different set of rules from the rest of society and that's not how a society works. It's the same thing as the Shariah Law Muslims in London wanting to run their own courts to doll out their own justice.
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Originally Posted By Jammer02xd⏩
If you're going to do that you also have to take into account the following which only helps to prove my argument.



That's nothing you say well let's broaden our viewpoint:



But this doesn't take into account that blacks are unfairly targeted you say well according to the National Crime Victimization Survery: it shows that the number of blacks arrested generally correlates with the number of offenders identified as black byvictims.

But that's not fair you say! Also consider the following from the FBI statistics:

"An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

So tell me... when you look at the ACTUAL numbers and not just listen to the media can't you see where things are not as bad at they say they are!
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Originally Posted By NeverTilt⏩
1. If there has been outrage for decades why has nothing changed, it's only gotten worse..?
because the people outraged aren't the one's doing those things in the first place, and you can't just tell criminals to stop it. they are criminals and by definition don't listen to even the law.
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
You're mentally retarded.


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Quality post but I wouldn't expect anything more from someone who resorts to such comments.

My point is all the BLM activists are ****ing idiots and the numbers show this. Blacks are NOT targeted more than whites. Blacks commit a larger portion of violent crimes than whites do yet the last several years of statistics show that whites/blacks have been killed virtually the same amount by police as the others which shows there is virtually no bias. The National Crime Victimization Survey only works to back up such findings since the number of offenders identified by their victim identified them as black, so it's not just whitey targeting black people. Anyone who tries to claim there is an epidemic of this going on is of low intelligence, there's just no denying it as you've simply been brainwashed by what "sells" by the mass media.

If more people would think for their damn self and not let the media do it we'd be a whole hell of a lot better off than we are now.
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Originally Posted By Captain554⏩
It does, it has gotten us to where we are now. You saying that is you segregating blacks from the rest of America, something they fought very hard AGAINST. Things are going backwards and will never go forward with your "us vs. them mentality." Same thing with the one BLM spokeswoman who says black communities should have their own courts/legal system to deal with their community in whatever way they see fit. That to me says they want to live by a different set of rules from the rest of society and that's not how a society works. It's the same thing as the Shariah Law Muslims in London wanting to run their own courts to doll out their own justice.
if you don't live in the community, it doesn't impact you. Whether or not thugs are killing each other in a poor black neighborhood doesn't impact or have anything to do with the rich white nuclear family in the burbs. get real here
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I don't even want to think of how many incidents like this occurred before cameras were widely available. If this incident wasn't recorded, it would've been swept under the rug and his past jaywalking offense would've made it fair game.

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oh look another black dude shot, and the cop will get a slap on the wrist. If it weren't for video footage, the victim would just be another statistic for miscers and everyone else to use in race threads.
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Originally Posted By NeverTilt⏩
2. While only 13% of the population in the USA is black. 8% of America’s population are black men, yet they account for 40% of America’s total prison population.

I will go vote for Trump, thanks.
most of that 40% are in jail for drug related, non violent crimes that white people aren't hunted for or convicted for.

That's a result of police bias.

no shock you're voting for trump lol
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Just put your hands up and comply with the police and calmly explain the situation...o wait.


Well....uh...he probably was a thug in high school. Bam.


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Originally Posted By drvillain⏩
oh look another black dude shot, and the cop will get a slap on the wrist. If it weren't for video footage, the victim would just be another statistic for miscers and everyone else to use in race threads.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
if you don't live in the community, it doesn't impact you. Whether or not thugs are killing each otherand innocent children/bystandersin a poor black neighborhood doesn't impact or have anything to do with the rich white nuclear family in the burbs. get real here
Fixed. Also, I still beg to differ. What happens when those thugs kill or bring harm innocent people is that police get involved. Once that happens someone gets hurt whether it be a police officer or a person of the community which creates more tension. That tension overflows into the public and now everyone is involved and now there are people on TV saying they want want blood to run in the streets or that people need to start murdering cops.

How doesn't that concern people outside the community? Please use facts instead of pure emotion or ad hominem attacks in your response.
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Yeah unfortunately mistakes are going to happen. There's no doubt this should not have happened. Everything is getting magnified now and while the officer obviously needs to be fired and the victim compensated in this instance it's unfortunate that this will no doubt today's incident will be used to fuel certain agendas.

It shouldn't be though. This was a mistake and the parties responsible are going to be held accountable for this for sure. And that should be the end of it.
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I see that BLM has already been mentioned...

The re-direction is strong
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Originally Posted By OhsoClutch⏩
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
And this stuff happens to blacks waaaaay more than whites.
Not true. You need to educate yourself. You're just going on spewing what you hear from the media and buying into what you want to hear.


5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks
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Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black.

More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to Mac Donald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to Mac Donald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.
NOTE: I am not commenting on the video in OP. I believe it a senseless shooting based on the video alone.
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Originally Posted By Captain554⏩
Fixed. Also, I still beg to differ. What happens when those thugs kill or bring harm innocent people is that police get involved. Once that happens someone gets hurt whether it be a police officer or a person of the community which creates more tension. That tension overflows into the public and now everyone is involved and now there are people on TV saying they want want blood to run in the streets or that people need to start murdering cops.

How doesn't that concern people outside the community? Please use facts instead of pure emotion or ad hominem attacks in your response.
Police are supposed to be involved when crime happens, whether it's thugs or not. Nobody is up in arms about police doing their job.

They are pi$$Ed because there are too many circumstances like this one WHERE COPS ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT

if you are concerned about the backlash, stop telling BLM that they are a racist terrorist group and start supporting the cause to hold cops to higher standards aka not allowing them kill blacks and get away with it
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Originally Posted By Julio49⏩
Yeah unfortunately mistakes are going to happen. There's no doubt this should not have happened. Everything is getting magnified now and while the officer obviously needs to be fired and the victim compensated in this instance it's unfortunate that this will no doubt today's incident will be used to fuel certain agendas.

It shouldn't be though. This was a mistake and the parties responsible are going to be held accountable for this for sure. And that should be the end of it.
Just LOL if you think the policeman will be held accountable! He'll get a slap on the wrist and some PAID time off. Meanwhile buddy will have to fight tooth and nail for compensation.
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
The police get praise constantly, you potato
For every 100 times they get chit on, they get one praise.

Ratio is fcked up. You can't criticize someone 100 times while praising them only once and expect them to do their job correct. If people won't give a chit about cops, they would just reciprocate. If general public can generalize, so can cops.
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whats crazy is they shot the black guy on the floor with hands up explaining the situation of this special person he is taking care of

special person holding toy truck in cops view could be a weapon, but shoot they black guy that proves to be no threat
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Originally Posted By rocketfish⏩
whats crazy is they shot the black guy on the floor with hands up explaining the situation of this special person he is taking care of

special person holding toy truck in cops view could be a weapon, but shoot they black guy that proves to be no threat
Everyone is a bigot, people see black guy, people shoot. Not because they're racist, that's just the kind of society we live in where media shows black guys as criminals. Regardless of what you think of them consciously, you will see them as danger subconsciously. They did a research on this while ago.



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This will never get million views.

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