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Thread: Staring To Think Allianc3, Jeff Seid etc. Could Be Natty (Pics)

post 1455962843 08-03-2016, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Gewicht⏩
Jeff has pretty much admitted to being on dat dere



If you can't detect the sarcasm from that post you might be socially retarded, srs

That being said, I agree with you OP that genetics play a big role, and I think sometimes those that are genetically gifted don't even realize it and think they must be successful solely due to outworking others. This goes for anything beyond lifting as well. One of the guys at my school gym (he's 20 as well) got into powerlifting about 18 months ago and recently put up a 1500 total, pretty sure he's natty but his strength before he even started working out was ridiculous. He was squatting three plates for reps within a few weeks at the gym.
there is no sarcasm, seid is a legit autist
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Lol @ OP posting a known roid-user with ectomorph genes, more proof that all impressive physiques are on gear

If he quit the gear he'd be lanklet again within a few months.
It's not that hard to maintain.

A lot of guys have tried chit once, gotten good results, and never again keeping gains they've made.
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post 1455963023 08-03-2016, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By brahskimoseph⏩
best friend bench pressed 440 in high school natty. big dude but did it natty nonetheless with less than 3.5 years of lifting.

I squatted 525 atg my junior year of hs natty

that being said, our mike linebacker benched 370 @ 200, def wasn't natty
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post 1455963073 08-03-2016, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By TSBrah⏩
there is no sarcasm, seid is a legit autist
you're a fkn pussy haha
post 1455963173 08-03-2016, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Gewicht⏩
Jeff has pretty much admitted to being on dat dere



If you can't detect the sarcasm from that post you might be socially retarded, srs
roid ego
post 1455964303 08-03-2016, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By jacobcmurphy⏩
I met some fuarking freaks in HS wrestling, srs

Guys that were like 17, shredded, and could bench over 300lbs at 160-170lbs

Dudes that didn't even take protein, much less anabolics lol

Some people are legit blessed with genetics of the gawds
There was 171lber on my team who was like this (two years older). In college he told me he was on prohormones@16 and then tech lol.
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post 1455967153 08-03-2016, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Growbag⏩
i want to be leaf, what they feeding you kids?
i was a big believer of the squats and oatz.



also dipped my hamburger bun in the grease from the french fries
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post 1455967773 08-03-2016, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted By brahskimoseph⏩
genetics. I've seen guys in the gym in their prime (15-20 yrs old) never make a lick of progress, and other dudes blow the fuk up. All I know is that if I got to 5'11 240 and relatively lean for natty without that great of genetics, what kind of monsters are out there?
No offense but you ain't lean @ that weight. lol
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post 1455968893 08-03-2016, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By ImJJames⏩
No offense but you ain't lean @ that weight. lol
brah im natty lol. try being 240 and natty at 5'11 see how you look.

and yeah I'm cutting after I'm done with college athletics
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post 1455969283 08-03-2016, 04:54 PM
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Hahah fuking delusional. You think your high school wrestler buddies are gonna admit to taking roids and get kicked off the team? My best friend was a football player in high school who had been taking roids since the 6th grade but guess what? He never told anyone else. And bs on that guy above claiming 525 atg squat as a junior without a fuk load of roids.
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Originally Posted By Gewicht⏩
Jeff has pretty much admitted to being on dat dere

If you can't detect the sarcasm from that post you might be socially retarded, srs
lol, he reminds me of:

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post 1455970113 08-03-2016, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Zelzuz⏩
Hahah fuking delusional. You think your high school wrestler buddies are gonna admit to taking roids and get kicked off the team? My best friend was a football player in high school who had been taking roids since the 6th grade but guess what? He never told anyone else. And bs on that guy above claiming 525 atg squat as a junior without a fuk load of roids.
lol wtf brah. We had probably 6-8 guys benching over 315 in hs, maybe 2-3 on juice at most. People can shockingly be strong without roids. I c&j 330lbs when I was 17. We had a transfer, a shorter greek dude, whom I personally spotted on a 365x5 bench. Thick as fuk, built like a cinderblock, most likely natty.
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post 1455970223 08-03-2016, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
There was 171lber on my team who was like this (two years older). In college he told me he was on prohormones@16 and then tech lol.
Not surprising, everyone gets curious mane.

I just couldn't see the specific individual I have in mind being on anything.

I'm one to suspect people too, but I would be very mind blown if this friend was back then.
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There are people with good genetics, but they aren't over 180lbs ripped, ever. That being said, in real life,I have never actually known anyone who looked like they lifted in a shirt who wasn't currently or previously on tech, regardless of good genetics. This includes high schoolers. Everybody lies about it and the internet has people overestimating what is possible without it. Plenty of scrawny guys are on it, lol if you think that anybody related to the fitness industry isn't on.
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post 1455979623 08-03-2016, 06:04 PM
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I go by the rule: if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

I've been burned too many times over the years assuming someone was natty, when it turned out they weren't. Yes, of course there are genetic freaks but we are all human. There is a standard distribution and outliers. I prefer to work with probabilities, rather than assuming that person is a rare genetic outlier.
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Lift for yourself. I stopped comparing myself to others.

Theres more people on PEDs than weed. Gives you an idea of how many people drink orange juice.

I stopped using supplements because its a farcical industry too, every fitness model is claiming natty these days and theres no way possible to prove otherwise.

I know the gym goers who have been there 5+ years and they are the average/athletic looking people. I see people come in for 12 months and get twice as big as them in no time yet lift with poor form/weights/isos etc. BB comparisons are farcical. do it for yourself.
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
If he quit the gear he'd be lanklet again within a few months.
You know the only people that lose all their gains either don't diet properly or had surpassed their genetic/natty limit while biking.
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Originally Posted By jacobcmurphy⏩
Not surprising, everyone gets curious mane.

I just couldn't see the specific individual I have in mind being on anything.

I'm one to suspect people too, but I would be very mind blown if this friend was back then.
If you believe him then that's enough. I know one guy 110% isn't on the stuff but the guy is jacked. Can clearly tell he lifts in clothes and he's lean

Black, 6ft 3 perhaps? Boulder biceps, delts, good forearms etc. Just muscular AF. You can spot elite genetics from a mile away with examples like him.

I'm tempted to post a pic of him but I'd be embarrassed if someone found out/knew who he was
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I don't care what you people think but let me clue you in on the things in my life that have contributed to my physique before I took lifting seriously.

As a child (7-10 years old or so) I loved climbing, I had a 20-30 foot rope in my back yard hanging from a tree I would climb all day without using my legs. I for whatever reason enjoyed this.

6th grade I began lifting at an after school program utilizing my middle school gym. There was guided instruction and I truthfully learned a lot at this young age.

Since the age of 4 I played baseball all through high school, at about 8 or 9 I had 2 private coaches- pitching coach and a hitting coach. Both were former MLB guys who kinda washed out early on in their careers and became meatheads/coaches. These guys pushed lifting on me in a way to improve for baseball, they were form nazis on every lift and movement.

In 7th grade I picked up wrestling and continued with wrestling and baseball for a few years.

In 11th grade I went all out with the gym, lifting just about every day I could. My starting point was FAR more advanced than just about anyone who first walks into a gym, I had an in depth knowledge from coaches and personal trainers I had basically grown up with and who had perfected my form.

I've been lifting 5+ days a week, every week, for the last 11-12 years.

My natural T-levels are in the low 1000's every time I've had blood work done.

Add in some good muscle insertions and genetics and all these factors and you'd have a physique naturally that no one else really believes.
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inafter the natty god.
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Almost every transformation there Is not natty

Really surprised at how many
Non natty people IRL
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Originally Posted By motivationplzdo⏩
Almost every transformation there Is not natty

Really surprised at how many
Non natty people IRL
Yeah stupid them. Smart me cooking in 95F weather carring boards around.
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Only reason someone would say this is if they lack perspective due to their own shortcomings.

You idiots really believe every random poster on an Internet forum with impressive results is lying to you?
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Only reason someone would say this is if they lack perspective due to their own shortcomings.

You idiots really believe every random poster on an Internet forum with impressive results is lying to you?
funny how that is coming form you..

Fake height..
Fake nattyness...
I keep pushing because I think I'm untouchable. But I'll learn the hard way because I'm only a popcorn fart away from a 30 day ban.
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Originally Posted By Lightsoft⏩
funny how that is coming form you..

Fake height..
Fake nattyness...
It's such a hilarious coping mechanism and such a stretch of a conclusion.

"Why haven't I seen results like that?!!?! Oh that's right, it's because they're all cheating. I'm the only one doing it legitimately, that's why my results make me unhappy."

Everybody has that unique snowflake syndrome where they MUST be the top 10% -- news flash boyos, someone's gotta occupy that bottom 10% too.
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
It's such a hilarious coping mechanism and such a stretch of a conclusion.

"Why haven't I seen results like that?!!?! Oh that's right, it's because they're all cheating. I'm the only one doing it legitimately, that's why my results make me unhappy."
lmao. We already proven your height through the cell phone test on the cement wall. We all know you are frauding your nattiness level
I keep pushing because I think I'm untouchable. But I'll learn the hard way because I'm only a popcorn fart away from a 30 day ban.
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Originally Posted By Lightsoft⏩
lmao. We already proven your height through the cell phone test on the cement wall. We all know you are frauding your nattiness level
Not saying he's natty, but his physique is attainable natty...
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Originally Posted By Lightsoft⏩
lmao. We already proven your height through the cell phone test on the cement wall. We all know you are frauding your nattiness level
Not saying he's natty, but his physique is attainable natty...
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