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post 1474717231 12-11-2016, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Steve707⏩
None of the nearby ffls listed on gunbroker want to transfer stripped lowers.
Location: California.

It would cost you something like $300 to do a transfer anyway, probably not worth it.

LDAR time, boyo.
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post 1474717961 12-11-2016, 08:16 PM
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Upgrading my PC in phases over the next few weeks. Have been on my current build for about 3.5 years now, want to upgrade for better video editing performance, video games, and might do some live streaming (twitch) of games.

Doing this tonight:

(part: old -> new)
CPU: AMD FX-8350 -> Intel i7 6800k
Mobo: ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z > MSI X99A Gaming Pro Carbon
Memory: GSKILL 32GB DDR3 2133mhz > Corsair 32GB DDR4 3200mhz
CPU cooler: Phanteks ph-tc14pe > Corsair H115i

Within the next month I will do these:

(part: old -> new)
Video card: EVGA Nvidia 780 -> EVGA Nvidia 1070 or 1080 (not sure how much I want to spend yet)
Memory: an additional 32GB of Corsair DDR4 3200mhz (64GB total)
SSD: 250GB Crucial MX100 x 2 in RAID 0 -> 512GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2
Case: Corsair Air540 -> Phanteks ENTHOO EVOLV tempered glass

Then I will upgrade my monitors, currently on a 120hz 1080p 24 inch monitor that I've had for about 4 years and a 23 inch 1080p 60hz monitor that I've had for a bit more than 7 years lol. Probably will get 1 34 inch ultra wide (12:9) 1440p monitor with 75hz or 100hz, then also get a 27 inch 16:9 1440p monitor.

After that I will get some studio monitors to replace my current Pioneer tower speakers (I don't remember the model off the top of my head)



ETA:

Also going to either build a Linux NAS machine with some old PC parts that I have, or just buy an "out of the box" NAS.
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post 1474719121 12-11-2016, 08:23 PM
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I think carrying spare mags for SD is dumb.

Yes, I carry two spare mags everyday but not because I think I'll need them.
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post 1474719391 12-11-2016, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I think real world stats show a spare magazine being far, far from a necessity, since private citizens use firearms to defend themselves/others so many times a year, and how often does a private citizen use a spare magazine? Seriously, does it ever even happen? If so, it's mega millions lottery odds. How often does a private citizen run out of ammo and need a reload they don't have? I'm not sure this really ever happens either. How often is there a simple assault, or threat of physical non lethal violence, or standoff like you had? All the damn time. And since you have a gun, any hands on initiated by anybody risks being lethal force in the blink of an eye.

It's lower than you think, even, best I have seen anybody who should know state, it's about 20% hit rate. And yeah handguns are weak and ineffective as a general rule and you would want to budget a fair handful of rounds per attacker in hopes of stopping them.

Sure, becoming proficient in BJJ would be better than pepper spray. But you can have pepper spray in your pocket within a day...that isn't really an either/or decision.

If you are set on a spare mag I'm sure you can fit both, maybe even a second spare mag

But then a BUG fixes everything a spare magazine fixes, plus more.
All great points and I don't disagree with any of them. Yeah I knew that statistically hit rate is super low and I figured one 15rd mag/attacker is probably realistic. To your points of "how often does it actually happen where a civilian goes to spare mag?":

1) You're right.
2) That's probably because even when there is more than 1 bad guy, those bad guys probably aren't that motivated to begin with, so once you start firing rounds they take off quick. You might only end up causing mortal damage to one of them which falls in line with the "one 15rd mag/bad guy.
3) It still is ideal to have a spare mag if you can afford to
3.a) But you got to weigh that against your personal priority of what you carry, e.g.: pistol > knife > flash light > spare mag > pepper spray > IFAK > etc (not necessarily my actual priority)

I guess I'm just irrational and in my mind's eye I'll take spare mag > pepper spray most of the time. Alas, I'll get some pepper spray and have the option, maybe I'll find out that I can carry both spray and mag.

ETA:

2.a) But if they ARE motivated, you're going toneedthat spare mag (at least 1)... but again stats say you are highly unlikely to be in that scenario.
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post 1474719481 12-11-2016, 08:25 PM
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spare mag is one thing but a BUG is another.


unless you plan on dual wielding cod style XD
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post 1474719921 12-11-2016, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By CdtCox⏩
I think carrying spare mags for SD is dumb.

Yes, I carry two spare mags everyday but not because I think I'll need them.
Yeah it might be dumb.

Are your two spare mags OWB carried at your gun store job? Is it for a "we oper8 here" image? I can understand why you'd do that if so. If not so, why do you carry the two spare mags?
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post 1474720871 12-11-2016, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted By insomniac23⏩
spare mag is one thing but a BUG is another.


unless you plan on dual wielding cod style XD
BUG fixes everything a spare mag fixes, and more. Gun gets damaged because guys often "target focus" on the threat and end up shooting the other person's gun (or you just get unlucky)...BUG fixes that but spare mag doesn't. Want more ammo? Either one works. Lose your gun in a fall or some kind of murphys law **** happens, BUG. Have a trusted person with you (friend, family member, coworker, whatever) who you would rather be armed than not but didn't think to bring their own? Yup, a BUG fixes that. Mechanical malfunction? Maybe your revolver locks the cylinder up, maybe your semi auto has a hard malfunction and you can't even get the slide open or the firing pin breaks (seen it happen) or or or who knows what...yup, BUG fixes that.

If you are really wanting to be prepared for the small chance within a small chance, a BUG covers a lot more ground than a spare mag.

The one thing the spare mag probably does better is give you a more 'shootable' larger platform after going for it since the BUG is likely smaller and less practically effective (and a spare mag may have more ammo in it than a smaller size BUG)
post 1474721361 12-11-2016, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
Yeah it might be dumb.

Are your two spare mags OWB carried at your gun store job? Is it for a "we oper8 here" image? I can understand why you'd do that if so. If not so, why do you carry the two spare mags?
1) it counterbalances the the weight of the gun on the other side
2) Unfortunately, we have to "look hard" and "switched on" to discourage mischief. No chit, probably three weeks ago we got a ATF letter warning about robberies/burglaries. The next day, two stores were hit. Last week, we had a group of thugs come in and case the place. They were going to sign up to shoot and backed out when they realized they had to provide personal info for the waiver. One of the idiots decided to purchase ammo, no problem, but we need to see a driver's licenseGuess who's DL number came back as a felon? Lmao, dumb criminals gonna dumb criminal. We are a multi million dollar facility and you won't be able to break in after hours so the methods would be run away with a gun after asking to see it or worst case, coming in hot. Armed, alert, prepared, employees are a preventative measure.
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post 1474721441 12-11-2016, 08:39 PM
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Will not be carrying a BUG.

I pack sound enough ****.
post 1474721831 12-11-2016, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted By jarryd2018⏩
Will not be carrying a BUG.

I pack sound enough ****.
Did you start carrying a primary yet?
post 1474722001 12-11-2016, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Did you start carrying a primary yet?
Hey. Did you try the SL/K/K2 grip yet?
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post 1474722031 12-11-2016, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Did you start carrying a primary yet?
Here we go.
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post 1474722101 12-11-2016, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By CdtCox⏩
1) it counterbalances the the weight of the gun on the other side
2) Unfortunately, we have to "look hard" and "switched on" to discourage mischief. No chit, probably three weeks ago we got a ATF letter warning about robberies/burglaries. The next day, two stores were hit. Last week, we had a group of thugs come in and case the place. They were going to sign up to shoot and backed out when they realized they had to provide personal info for the waiver. One of the idiots decided to purchase ammo, no problem, but we need to see a driver's licenseGuess who's DL number came back as a felon? Lmao, dumb criminals gonna dumb criminal. We are a multi million dollar facility and you won't be able to break in after hours so the methods would be run away with a gun after asking to see it or worst case, coming in hot. Armed, alert, prepared, employees are a preventative measure.
Makes sense, I'd do the same thing if I were in your shoes.

If you're not working and are concealed carrying, do you carry a spare mag? I'm guess the answer is "no".
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post 1474722601 12-11-2016, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
Makes sense, I'd do the same thing if I were in your shoes.

If you're not working and are concealed carrying, do you carry a spare mag? I'm guess the answer is "no".
I don't conceal carry unless I'm just throwing a sweatshirt or jacket on and it covers my normal G19 +2mags. toofat/10 for IWB.
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post 1474722761 12-11-2016, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted By CdtCox⏩
Hey. Did you try the SL/K/K2 grip yet?
No, haven't picked one up, didn't see what K/K2 would do that the GF doesn't. Haven't been shooting carbine much at all either. cloon
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
No, haven't picked one up, didn't see whatK/K2 would do that the GF doesn't.Haven't been shooting carbine much at all either. cloon
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All this talk of spare mags and back up guns, just make sure you leave room for a house arrest IFAK.
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I'm sitting here waiting for about 500GB of files to copy over to my backup drives. I about took apart an on-board RAID of drives on my AMD mobo to put them on my new Intel mobo... before I did I had the thought "Wait a minute, I don't think the RAID will work on a different CPU architecture". Good thing I didn't try, would've lost a ton of data.

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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
BUG fixes everything a spare mag fixes, and more. Gun gets damaged because guys often "target focus" on the threat and end up shooting the other person's gun (or you just get unlucky)...BUG fixes that but spare mag doesn't. Want more ammo? Either one works. Lose your gun in a fall or some kind of murphys law **** happens, BUG. Have a trusted person with you (friend, family member, coworker, whatever) who you would rather be armed than not but didn't think to bring their own? Yup, a BUG fixes that. Mechanical malfunction? Maybe your revolver locks the cylinder up, maybe your semi auto has a hard malfunction and you can't even get the slide open or the firing pin breaks (seen it happen) or or or who knows what...yup, BUG fixes that.

If you are really wanting to be prepared for the small chance within a small chance, a BUG covers a lot more ground than a spare mag.

The one thing the spare mag probably does better is give you a more 'shootable' larger platform after going for it since the BUG is likely smaller and less practically effective (and a spare mag may have more ammo in it than a smaller size BUG)
the chances of actually needing your gun. then the chances of something going catastrophically wrong w your gun....next to nil

its a pita enough carrying one gun, let alone two concealed.


id rather carrying a flashlight or something useful compared to a BUG. idk how you dress but i don't casually wear 5.11 tactical cargo pants w ten million pockets.


if you're serious enough about getting significant other/friend to need a pistol, make them carry it themselves.
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post 1474723501 12-11-2016, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By insomniac23⏩
the chances of actually needing your gun. then the chances of something going catastrophically wrong w your gun....next to nil

its a pita enough carrying one gun, let alone two concealed.


id rather carrying a flashlight or something useful compared to a BUG. idk how you dress but i don't casually wear 5.11 tactical cargo pants w ten million pockets.
I'm obviously not recommending leaving something like a hand held flashlight in order to carry a BUG. Right now I am just pointing out how if you feel a spare mag is a necessity, a BUG might not be much harder to carry and does a heck of a lot more than a spare mag. *Although a spare mag for a larger gun might be better than a smaller harder to shoot BUG
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Originally Posted By CdtCox⏩
I don't conceal carry unless I'm just throwing a sweatshirt or jacket on and it covers my normal G19 +2mags. toofat/10 for IWB.
Oh okay, I then assume that you open carry? Do you just do the same setup as your work gear (2 owb mags)?

I am more than likely fatter than you and I appendix IWB carry, not too bad just got to have a good belt and not cinch it down so tight.
Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
All this talk of spare mags and back up guns, just make sure you leave room for a house arrest IFAK.
What's your favorite EDC hand gun that you concealed or open carry?
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post 1474723831 12-11-2016, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
What's your favorite EDC hand gun that you concealed or open carry?
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Placed 7/21 in Production USPSA today, 33/104 overall.

Take note of the hits and time of me compared to the guy that placed 2nd. Nearly identical hits, but he was 13 seconds faster than me. I feel like I can shave off at least 5-8 seconds and maintain the same hits, doing that I place much higher.

Take note of first place Production, his hits were far worse than mine, but he also shot a complete 30 seconds faster (hot damn!).

I feel I am continuing to improve.

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[QUOTE=Millz post_id=1474725151]Placed 7/21 in Production USPSA today, 33/104 overall.

Take note of the hits and time of me compared to the guy that placed 2nd. Nearly identical hits, but he was 13 seconds faster than me. I feel like I can shave off at least 5-8 seconds and maintain the same hits, doing that I place much higher.

Take note of first place Production, his hits were far worse than mine, but he also shot a complete 30 seconds faster (hot damn!).

I feel I am continuing to improve.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/IezJGle.png[img][/QUOTE]You're shooting a Shadow something right?

Yeah, I'm either open carrying, concealing with a sweatshirt/jacket, or concealing not on my waist.
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Originally Posted By CdtCox⏩
You're shooting a Shadow something right?

Yeah, I'm either open carrying, concealing with a sweatshirt/jacket, or concealing not on my waist.
Yes, CZ Shadow souped up from CZ Custom.

Yeah I re-read your post #6614 and you actually said that, derp on my part.

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[QUOTE=Millz post_id=1474726191]Yes, CZ Shadow souped up from CZ Custom.

Yeah I re-read your post #6614 and you actually said that, derp on my part.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/OyHZwcH.jpg[mg][/QUOTE]Nice, I have a customer that comes in with one with some hnnnnnnnggggggggggg worthy walnut grips. Its ****ing sexy. Interesting rear sight. The most of the ones I've encountered had the rear similar to the one that comes on the TS so you can work the slide with the sight.
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Originally Posted By CdtCox⏩
Nice, I have a customer that comes in with one with some hnnnnnnnggggggggggg worthy walnut grips. Its ****ing sexy. Interesting rear sight. The most of the ones I've encountered had the rear similar to the one that comes on the TS so you can work the slide with the sight.
I've seen these wood grips, they're very nice looking, I might get some to try them out

https://raasco.com/semi-auto-grips/cz-75-grips/



The rear sight I like a lot, it functions very nicely and doesn't take up too much volume. I have been able to use that rear sight to do one hand reload (and rack slide) off of my shoe (while kneeling) and also off of my belt.
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Wood grips are pretty hnnnggggg . . . I got some woodies for my BHP from Moe awhile back.

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post 1474727591 12-11-2016, 09:21 PM
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I think what he has are similar to these.
"Take a course in good water and air; and in the eternal youth of Nature you may renew your own. Go quietly, alone; no harm will befall you." -John Muir

"Give me Liberty or give me Death"- Patrick Henry

"I'm here to operate."- GST
post 1474727631 12-11-2016, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Did you start carrying a primary yet?
My permit was approved last week.

Been carrying my g26 all week.
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