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Thread: Lmao @ the BS Whey Protein industry

post 1475789431 12-20-2016, 06:05 AM
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rich panini said it's all about the carbs to get big, he says protein is overrated, but is useful for fatloss with keto.

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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
all whey protein is is a chemical substitute
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lmao at taking whey protein every single day, good night sweet kidney function.
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post 1475789751 12-20-2016, 06:09 AM
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Complete set of essential amino acids in a low calorie package.

Yeah, that sounds terrible, no one wants that.
Eat in a deficit to lose weight.
Hit your protein and fat minimums to stay healthy and keep your gainz.
Lift heavy and do HIIT to look and feel awesome.
Use the internet to learn why you should do these things and how to do these things.
post 1475789861 12-20-2016, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
Complete set of essential amino acids in a low calorie package.

Yeah, that sounds terrible, no one wants that.
by product of cheese making lol.

pls
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Originally Posted By Zwicker⏩
I can understand the distrust of the fitness/supplement industry, but I never understood why people choose whey protein to attack (unless it's a brand that amino acid spikes, or uses cheaper milk concentrates/whey concentrates).

Surely whey is the one legitimate "supplement." It's just protein with a complete amino acid profile. Sure it doesn't benefit you anymore than egg whites/chicken breast, but it's convenient and relatively cheap. I don't really even consider it a "supplement," but rather just a grocery item...

With all the BS crap out there produced by supplement companies, complete with flimsy/falsified "studies," people choose whey... Lmao.


Edit: Lol'd at "chemical substitute" for protein.
Blame consumers too for going for gimmicky items and looking for the cheapest or best tasting protein vs quality and nutritional profile. The supplement industry has a lot of crappy brands that use underhanded tactics such as misleading/exaggerated claims, sneaky fillers, and flavour of the month type supplements(garcinia,hoodia) A lot of it can be blamed on consumers wanting to hear what they want vs wanting to hear the truth. People need to do more research about what they put into their bodies and look for well absorbed forms of vitamins for their age group(ie calcium carb is fine if you're young, but older people should be using citrate or an already reacted form)

Whey can be a good supplement, but I think 20-30 grams of protein is a bit excessive. I can see 15g/serving being more reasonable for the average person.

A lot of people are into smoothies these days. So whey/veg protein powders is an easy way to boost protein intake. I personally prefer veg protein supplements because they're easier to digest for me with less side effects like gas/upset stomach, but whey is still a great source of protein too. I also feel BCAA and individual amino acids have their place and can be helpful for recovery(BCAA),prevent getting sick from physical stress/lifting(glutamine,lysine), but remember they are supplements, not replacements for a meal or exercise
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post 1475790641 12-20-2016, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Nosferatu187⏩
by product of cheese making lol.

pls
Which is........a complete set of essential amino acids in a low calorie package. Not reading the rest of this thread, are we trolling or chromo****lly abnormal......or both?
Eat in a deficit to lose weight.
Hit your protein and fat minimums to stay healthy and keep your gainz.
Lift heavy and do HIIT to look and feel awesome.
Use the internet to learn why you should do these things and how to do these things.
post 1475791321 12-20-2016, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted By musD⏩
Blame consumers too for going for gimmicky items and looking for the cheapest or best tasting protein vs quality and nutritional profile. The supplement industry has a lot of crappy brands that use underhanded tactics such as misleading/exaggerated claims, sneaky fillers, and flavour of the month type supplements(garcinia,hoodia) A lot of it can be blamed on consumers wanting to hear what they want vs wanting to hear the truth. People need to do more research about what they put into their bodies and look for well absorbed forms of vitamins for their age group(ie calcium carb is fine if you're young, but older people should be using citrate or an already reacted form)

Whey can be a good supplement, but I think 20-30 grams of protein is a bit excessive. I can see 15g/serving being more reasonable for the average person.

A lot of people are into smoothies these days. So whey/veg protein powders is an easy way to boost protein intake. I personally prefer veg protein supplements because they're easier to digest for me with less side effects like gas/upset stomach, but whey is still a great source of protein too. I also feel BCAA and individual amino acids have their place and can be helpful for recovery(BCAA),prevent getting sick from physical stress/lifting(glutamine,lysine), but remember they are supplements, not replacements for a meal or exercise
you have to be kidding me so it's the consumers fault because they don't want to pay excessive amounts so that's an excuse to scam.
post 1475791631 12-20-2016, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted By musD⏩
A lot of people are into smoothies these days. So whey/veg protein powders is an easy way to boost protein intake. I personally prefer veg protein supplements because they're easier to digest for me with less side effects like gas/upset stomach, but whey is still a great source of protein too. I also feel BCAA and individual amino acids have their place and can be helpful for recovery(BCAA),prevent getting sick from physical stress/lifting(glutamine,lysine), but remember they are supplements, not replacements for a meal or exercise
Vegetable protein supplements are incomplete sources and BCAAs are largely useless especially when compared to whey

I suggest you find a lactose free whey and ditch the rest
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post 1475791791 12-20-2016, 06:40 AM
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Higher protein doesnt mean more gains but high protein diets burn more fats due to the thermal effect protein has on the body. Read it on tnation.

Whey is just an easy way of consuming protein. Youre a retard if you think its a must and youre even more of a retard if you think its a scam/chemical.

I like it cus its tasty, easy and GREAT for getting protein while in a caloric deficit.
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i have that one friend(doesn't lift ofc) who says that you NEED to take whey even though you eat enough protein from whole foods because you lose it through training or whatever he meant with that, and also he said because pro bber's take whey thats why you need too

damn non lifters i swear
post 1475792501 12-20-2016, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted By xslick⏩
The body doesn't store protein.
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post 1475793601 12-20-2016, 07:08 AM
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sometimes it's useful especially when you're not hungry.
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JUST LOL @ PEOPLE WHO GET MORE THAN 100g OF PROTEIN A DAY
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Originally Posted By KingKringe⏩
sometimes it's useful especially when you're not hungry.
when you are not hungry your body is telling you don't need any nutrients lol.
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heard if u inject whey u get mad gainzZZz
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I have always been an easy gainer so I really honestly don't see a difference between protein use.

And yes whey is a natural milk byproduct however the other added aminos and stuff that the protein is spiked with is often Chinese raw material which can contain contaminants. I used to work in that industry.
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whey is cheap af

brb 20g per scoop @ .25 cents LMAO @ u
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
if you think its ESSENTIAL to have a good body then just LMAO @ YOU.
Don't know a single person who thinks this.

Whey is a convenience tool for hitting your protein macros, nothing less, nothing more.
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Of course whey isn't necessary.. but I don't get why people say getting protein from real food, with all else equal, is better (assuming the rest of the diet, and hence nutrients in chicken/whatever that aren't in when etc. are the same).

The studies I have seen suggest the body absorbs whey protein about as well as any other source, and significantly better than some sources. I really doubt protein shakes guy and chicken guy would have much different results holding all else equal (including genetics).
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
me and my friend were arguing about how important protein was for getting gains, i was trying to tell him that whey protein is BS and is only for people that don't have time to cook their own meals

he says that if you want to get big, you HAVE to consume whey protein for extra protein

it's amazing how brainwashed people are into thinking that whey protein is this magical supplement that is going to give you gains, when they don't understand the simple concept of macronutrients. all whey protein is is a chemical substitute for protein, which you should be consuming through whole foods like beans, meat, and nuts.

i understand if you need whey protein on-the-go if you don't have time to cook all the time, but if you think its ESSENTIAL to have a good body then just LMAO @ YOU

also I was telling him how you only need about .8g protein/1 lb of bodyweight but so many people think you need to take 1.5g+/1lb of bodyweight... just lmao

then he disregard everything i said and just said "thanks for reminding me, i gotta take my whey protein for the day" just lmao...
Can confirm. Had blood levels tested twice a week while regularly taking whey and the protein levels never changed. Stopped taking it, still made huge gains.
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Stopped at "me and my friend." It's "my friend and I."
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Originally Posted By GravityLee⏩
If you put someone on almost primarily whey protein and another guy on almost primarily chicken and other meats, the whey guy would look like chit by comparison if all other factors were equal.

No pro has specifically said this.. But they have said it without saying it, beat around the bush about it, etc. Rich Piana is pretty candid about it saying always choose real food when available. A few pros have had the balls to come out and admit they only drink whey when food isnt available even when the supps company sponsors them.
?????????????? Protein is fuking protein. Unless your trying to argue the amino acid content is different or meat provide other necessary components to enhance growth(red meats having creatinine for example) there is no difference. Protein shakes are a low calorie SUPPLEMENT which is filling and easy to take as opposed to eating eggs or chicken breast as said previously.

Protein powder isn't a "chemical" synthesized in a lab it comes from dairy just like cheese or ice cream it is comparable to powdered milk it is just dehydrated for convenience. Whey concentrate is a byproduct of making cheese that is ISOLATED from the rest via filtration. Christ you fellas are thick. Just google it if you don't believe me, but then again you probably don't believe anyone but Rich fuking Piano. I'm waiting for you to start telling everyone to wake up and using the word "sheeple"


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lol'd at chemical substitute. Your friend may be stupid but you lost the argument calling it a chemical substitute.
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tfw i only buy whey so i can make oats taste good and make sludge/ desserts with it
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supplemental
You can use the adjective supplemental to describe something extra. You could volunteer to donate your collection of markers and colored pencils to a local school that needs supplemental art supplies.
Something that's supplemental is added when there's a lack or deficiency.You might feed the runt from a litter of puppies supplemental milk because he can't get enough from his mother(your typical errant miscer). Teachers are famous for assigning supplemental reading to round out the information in a textbook. Supplemental comes from the Latin supplementum, "added to supply a deficiency."


WTF are you guys even arguing about? They are SUPPLEMENTS. By definition they are not there to replace a whole food source of protein like beef or fish or chicken or quinoa (yes there is 1 plant based COMPLETE protein). They are there to shore up any shortcomings of that macro in particular, not even purporting to replace all of the other vital micros that your macros contain.

If you aren't eating a robust diet with lots of fats, carbs and proteins sourced from both living (plants) and dead (meat) organisms you aren't doing your best. The body works as a holistic system. It requires and is able to use hundreds of different vitamins and minerals and other life giving micros. If you're a natty lifter you should focus on your overall health, anyway, because looking healthy as **** is more attractive (and healthier) than semi-big muscles underneath blotchy, dried out skin that indicates your vital organs are gobbling up the insufficient amount of nutrients you're consuming, so they can work against the tide of toxins your **** diet is likely subjecting them to (monsters and redbulls boyos? come the **** on).

I eat a plethora of whole foods and the number one compliment I get from non-lifters is that I look very healthy. Health is very attractive.
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Right or wrong, everyone sounds like a complete idiot whenever this topic comes up.

I especially like the posters who toss in sciency words and numbers they found somewhere to make it sound like they are fukkin' doctor protein.
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you need protein powder if you can't get enough protein from other sources for whatever reason
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SAN whey is hnnnnggg
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