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Thread: Toddler ends up with 50 stitches after dog of peace ravages it's poor face

post 1483194581 02-11-2017, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
People who are arguing that it's the owners fault and the breed shouldn't be restricted, are missing the point of outlawing or controlling anything. Pitbulls are clearly genetically predisposed to vicious behavior when exposed to the wrong environment i.e. a bad owner.

For the safety of society, certain breeds should be restricted. Are these stats wrong?

For the 100th time, yes. What defines a dog as a "pitbull" is subjective in these stats. Many other breeds and even mixes with some pitbull in them all get lumped under that category. The combination portion is severely underrepresented. If you ask a person what kind of dog attacked you, they're more inclined to say "I think it was a pitbull" because that's what society/the media is telling you to say. In reality, they have no clue
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35⏩
For the 100th time, yes. What defines a dog as a "pitbull" is subjective in these stats. Many other breeds and even mixes with some pitbull in them all get lumped under that category. The combination portion is severely underrepresented
How come when I do a simple dog attack search on YouTube I get 90% pitbulls, mostly attacking other dogs? Is YouTube also biased, or are the viewers biased and pushing these vids to the top?
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
How come when I do a simple dog attack search on YouTube I get 90% pitbulls, mostly attacking other dogs? Is YouTube also biased, or are the viewers biased and pushing these vids to the top?
That's not what I got when I typed in dog attack
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35⏩
No. My point has always been about the mislabeling of "pitbulls" and how breed statistics are innacurate due to that.
Chart require interpretation. Which could mean many things depending on how they're read.
You went from pitbulls, to other breeds, and finally any kind of threatening animals in general.

There's your strawman.
Actually the strawman is the over analyzing. Fact: ALL DOG BITE. Pit bulls are merely stronger and more tenacious fighters. The result being their attacks cause a lot more damage. Themeanestdogs I know of are chihuahuas. But chihuahuas can't knock you down and rip your throat out.
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For the people advocating so hard for Pitbulls, why a Pitbull? Like why is it necessary for you to get a Pitbull specifically over a german shepherd or something?
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Originally Posted By Spill512⏩
For the people advocating so hard for Pitbulls, why a Pitbull? Like why is it necessary for you to get a Pitbull specifically over a german shepherd or something?
Getting any pet isn't necessary.
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35⏩
Getting any pet isn't necessary.
yeah, but people have reasons for getting one. What reasons specifically draw you to pitbulls?
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Originally Posted By Spill512⏩
For the people advocating so hard for Pitbulls, why a Pitbull? Like why is it necessary for you to get a Pitbull specifically over a german shepherd or something?
Or a Pekingese, or a Shih Tzu, or a Pomeranian? A Dachshund? Or a Beagle, or a Basset Hound, or a Pug? A Jack Russell Terrier? Or a Lab? A bulldog? A Yorkie? A Poodle? A Golden Retriver? Or a Boxer?
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We shouldn't outlaw pitbulls but make pitbulls owners criminally liable when their chitdogs maul others so at least we'll get them ghetto trashy scums off the street.
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Originally Posted By dj924s⏩
I found the data I was looking for!
All numbers are from 1984-2014
Pittbulls are the most popular dog at 6.69% and have caused 295 deaths
Mastiffs makeup .02% of dog population and caused 18 deaths. If Mastiffs made up 6.69% they would cause 6,002 deaths!
Interesting, I didn't realize pitbulls were so popular.
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Originally Posted By dj924s⏩
OMG srs? The person was told not to put the dog and kid together.
The person put the dog and child together.
If the person didn't let the dog near the child the dog would not have attacked the child.
Please tell me how you aren't understanding this. It would not have happened if the person was a responsible person.
It would not have happened if they didn't have a pitbull either.

In not explaining myself again your going in circles. Good luck
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
If a person who owns a pitbull allows the dog to attack another person fatally, the punishment should be life in prison. If the pitbull maims the victim, at least 20+ years. In cases where the negligence is on the part of the victim, I don't think you can punish the owner.

I personally won't associate with pitbull owners if the dog is anywhere nearby. I think they are ****ing retarded.
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Just like humans dogs can be ugly or good looking. Pitbulls are unquestionably an ugly dog and that includes dogs that can be mistaken as pitbulls

They are not cute or handsome and are more prone to violence

Where is the appeal? I think people are drawn to them for their reputation as ugly violent losers whom no one likes so owners want to 'save' them and show them love. The other reason is simply wanting an aggressive dog.
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Originally Posted By BloodyBaron⏩
Why would you own a pet that is capable (and more than willing), to kill a child?
the majority of dog breeds are capable and willing to kill a child in the right circumstances. I've been attacked by dogs 5-6 times in my life. 4-5 of those times were german shephards. the other time was an Akita. I don't want, nor do I care to have either of those breeds banned. I blame the owners.

If you want to own a potentially dangerous breed of dog you should need a permit. And be held responsible if they injure someone.
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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY⏩
Typical trash from the good ol' trailer park.
Yeep.

These pitt attacks always take place in some ghetto trailer park scenario.


BTW OP. Are you anti gun? Because if you're not, you're retarded.
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Originally Posted By Spill512⏩
For the people advocating so hard for Pitbulls, why a Pitbull? Like why is it necessary for you to get a Pitbull specifically over a german shepherd or something?
I've grown up around Pitbulls and German Shepherds, so for me the only dog breeds I would own are one of those two.

That being said, I would never trust a Pit or Shepherd around a small child, as it's pretty clear how powerful and temperamental they can be.

I'd argue that probably 80% or more of dog-related attacks could be prevented if the owner took proper precautions though. Our current German Shepherd is about 150lbs and can get extremely aggressive if he feels that someone is endangering my mom. For that reason, we keep him away from children and other dogs. Problem solved.

Also it's still strange for me to see so many Pitbull attacks when Shepherds seem much more capable. I wonder if it's just a per capita issue like DJ said.

I know one time a neighbor's pitbull wandered into our yard and Thor (our shepherd) got a hold of it by the neck and it was game over. Dog would've been dead if I hadn't called him off.
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something that I've personally witnessed and never understood is that everyone I know who owns a pitbull (whether its someone I know or is a friend of a friend) is a social degenerate or involved in illegal chit. i know its anecdotal, but its weird how these groups of people love pitbulls
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ban all pitbulls
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Originally Posted By aragon416⏩
something that I've personally witnessed and never understood is that everyone I know who owns a pitbull (whether its someone I know or is a friend of a friend) is a social degenerate or involved in illegal chit. i know its anecdotal, but its weird how these groups of people love pitbulls
im not a social degenerate nor am i involved in anything illegal and i had a lovely pitt that didn't hurt a fly until it died.
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Originally Posted By aragon416⏩
something that I've personally witnessed and never understood is that everyone I know who owns a pitbull (whether its someone I know or is a friend of a friend) is a social degenerate or involved in illegal chit. i know its anecdotal, but its weird how these groups of people love pitbulls
Not sure how you don't see the reasoning.

If you're into illegal or degenerate stuff, your reputation probably has a lot to do with it. If you need to command respect or fear, is this going to do the trick?



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Originally Posted By Psychotropic⏩
Just like humans dogs can be ugly or good looking. Pitbulls are unquestionably an ugly dog and that includes dogs that can be mistaken as pitbulls

They are not cute or handsome and are more prone to violence

Where is the appeal? I think people are drawn to them for their reputation as ugly violent losers whom no one likes so owners want to 'save' them and show them love. The other reason is simply wanting an aggressive dog.
They are a gangster dog. Particularly popular in the hood than Park Avenue.
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ban all pitbulls
Knee jerk reaction with zero mental thought. You'd make a great politician.
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Issue is with the owners and the pit. Pits are a loaded handgun, and 99.99% of pit owners are using their dog as massive cope for their insecurities. They say you need to be firm, its a sweetheart, etc. but of course it bites someone when you least expect it. Of course you say its never done that before, because if it has, it wouldn't even be around. Morons refuse the accept that pits are a very skittish breed, prone to act "out of character" when you least expect it to. Morons don't treat it with the caution and respect that they should, then you get this kind of issue.

Get over yourselves, walking your chit-tier dog, and disciplining it is not enough in the case of pits. Keeping it away from animals and people, and having an eye on it all the time is the only way to be safe. All dogs act out of character once in a while, but a bite from a schnauzer is different from a bite from a goldie, which is completely different from the bite of a vicious pit
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Honest to God, if every pit bull owner was shot in the head, I'd be perfectly okay with it (dead serious)(no pun).
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
I have an 80 lb pit / cane corso mix. Would not let him anywhere near children. Or the elderly. Or strangers in general, really. He's very protective of the house.

Whenever he is at the vet, I always make sure to muzzle him. JUST IN CASE. He has the capability of serious damage, right? So I plan accordingly so that doesn't happen. In general he turns into a baby at the vets though, really hates his nails getting clipped off and whines. He'd kill a toddler inside of 15 seconds if he was blood rage mode, though. Lots of different dog breeds could, in fact.
This is how a responsible owner should be. This man is 100x better than those morons who say their dog is a sook, then when it tears off someone's face, act surprised and says it never has done that before, you must have looked at it funny, or made a sound it didn't like. This is how a pit owner should be. This is how the owner of any large, powerful dog should be.
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Originally Posted By KBurn⏩
This is how a responsible owner should be. This man is 100x better than those morons who say their dog is a sook, then when it tears off someone's face, act surprised and says it never has done that before, you must have looked at it funny, or made a sound it didn't like. This is how a pit owner should be. This is how the owner of any large, powerful dog should be.
Most people put emotion above logic. Sure, the animal cares about you. But if you startle it and it feels threatened? It could shred you up real quick. I've had that dog for nearly 10 years. Only got seriously bitten ONCE - and it was like two weeks ago. He was sleeping, had eaten a pillow. Went to collect the pillow stuffing and he must have felt threatened. Jumped up and latched on my forearm, got three good bites in. After the fact he looked like he was having a heart attack for 3 hours, looked guilty as fuk, I almost felt bad for him. He got me pretty good though, tough dog.

I would also argue owning cats can be just as dangerous - Toxoplasma gondii parasite is pretty creepy sh!t.
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It is simple, really. There will ALWAYS be bad dog owners out there, because there will always be stupid people out there. Since there will always be bad owners, therefore there will always be a risk of dogs attacking innocent people including defenselss toddlers.


Since we cant ban idiots, we have to look at different options. Banning the most dangerous breeds seems like the next best thing. A potential dog owner who wants to get a Pitbull becomes a risk for everybody. A potential dog owner who CANT get a pitbull, and has to go for a lesser dangerous breed, becomes less of a danger.

Bad owners are spoiling it for everyone, but that is really the only way to stop or minimize little toddlers getting their faces bitten off. At the end of the day we can argue all we want about whose fault it was, the owners, the dogs, the breeders, etc, but fact of the matter is that for sure it wasnt the toddlers faullt, and he shouldnt give a fuk whose fault it is either.. What we can all say for sure is that the toddler wouldnt have been in near as much danger if he had been in front of a Labrador instead, or a more chill breed.


There will always be bad owners in the world, and as long as we keep blaming every dog attack on them, toddlers will keep getting attacked. If we ban pitbulls, less kids will be attacked and that is a statistical fact. Whose fault it was that pitbulls were banned? Who gives a ****, the important thing is that now kids are safer.
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Originally Posted By dj924s⏩
Did you read the story you posted?
The point here is this person was told not to put the dog in proximity to the child.
The person chose to disregard, and put the child together with the dog.
This wasn't about the dog overpowering, this was plain negligence.
Originally Posted By dj924s⏩
OMG srs? The person was told not to put the dog and kid together.
The person put the dog and child together.
If the person didn't let the dog near the child the dog would not have attacked the child.
Please tell me how you aren't understanding this. It would not have happened if the person was a responsible person.
dude this argument is fuking garbage, any animal that you have to tell someone not to put with a child is an animal that does not EVER belong in someones house or around people.

Are you honestly not seeing this correlation?

what other animals would you say to not have around a child? I guarantee almost all or all of them should NEVER be kept a domesticated "pet"
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its always shiver me when parents let their babies playing (at certain level) with dog (all breed)
its still an animal no matter you think how friendly your dog is
and its still a dumb babies no matter you think how special your child is

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Lol'ing at this thread as I watch my 13 month old wrestle with my pitbull.
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Originally Posted By sweetneybrian⏩
Lol'ing at this thread as I watch my 13 month old wrestle with my pitbull.
Yea, but you wouldn't just leave them home alone for an entire work shift in a locked room, would you? No matter how chill the dog is, there's always the SLIGHT possibility something happens. They're usually more protective than anything with kids in the family, though.
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