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Thread: Lol @ full grown adults that don't believe in vaccines

post 1490441591 04-09-2017, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
First tell me what problems can ischemia cause?
You will never know unless you do your own research.
Researching what exactly? What information should we be using if we can't use anything scientific?
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
First tell me what problems can ischemia cause?
You will never know unless you do your own research.
Ischemia can cause many problems, I know because I've done gigantic mounds of research on it. It mostly presents as stroke or cardiac event, although it can affect any major organ including the bowel and testes. Of particular note are the head of the femur and the scaphoid bone in the wrist, both of which can die of ischemia if the blood vessels supplying them are damaged, as in a fall. This presents a particular risk to the elderly.

And that's just off the top of my head. So, is your contention that vaccines don't work, that they work but come with poisons attached, or that they work and aren't poison but somehow cause autism?
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I spoke to a grown man at length the other day who was a Physician and he himself didn't believe that they were an absolute necessity either. I've spoken to other Physicians who feel the same.

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People who are against vaccination, also believe in bullcrap like homeopathy. If those individuals had stepped inside a pediatric clinic, they would have known that a great number of the patients would have not been there if they were properly vaccinated.
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Originally Posted By Condyle⏩
It's the strangest thing. Not even going to debate whether vaccines work - the really interesting thing is anti-vaxxers themselves. The core group tends overwhelmingly to be middle-class mums - wealth is very much positively correlated with anti-vax leanings, as is a stable and mostly authority-friendly past. Out of anyone anywhere, these people have the least reason to distrust authority at all, let alone accuse them of shocking crimes including infanticide.

It's a very odd core group and while their accusations are standard-issue conspiracy theory, demographically speaking it's without precedent. My own theory is these people have led very linear, somewhat boring lives and anti-vax is a way of lashing out against authority - the fact it has the welfare of their children as the centre pivot gives them a pathway to safely challenge authority. They challenge doctors rather than police or politicians because doctors are a largely passive target who are exceedingly unlikely to strike back or turn nasty, and they speak in terms which confuse the fifty per cent of people who sport a double-digit IQ.

It's the only satisfactory explanation as to why educated people could reject what is not only settled science, but very simple science, and proven science which has crushed out of existence diseases which killed millions for centuries. This rejection appears to be based on absolutely nothing of worth whatsoever, and I've looked and looked. It's conjured out of nothing any reasonable person would even consider, it makes my head hurt.
But they do it because they can pretend like they've spent so much time being a mom/researching how to best raise a child. If you ever read the excuses in comment sections they legitimately believe that the hours they spent googling "why vaccines are bad" and reading the first things that come up is the same as doing unbiased research. These types of people have enough education to be dangerous because they often times cite their degree as proof they are intelligent, but obviously they never have relevant degrees. I'd be the first to blame feminism for telling stay at home moms their "mom research" is equivalent to a lab study run by a bunch of PhDs.
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People who are against vaccination, also believe in bullcrap like homeopathy. If those individuals had stepped inside a pediatric clinic, they would have known that a great number of the patients would have not been there if they were properly vaccinated.
I used to be 100% against homeopathy, but honestly some of it is legitimate and it sometimes does fill the gaps in western medicine. Occasionally western medicine gets too focused on fixing the problem instead of wondering why the problem is occurring and how to best treat the underlying issue at hand.
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
Hah, still butt hurt over being a brainwashed cog? I bet it stings more if you have a 'medical' degree of sorts.
Take an adjuvant like aluminum for starters, which is also used in water treatment as it binds and sinks contaminates to the bottom,this helps collagarate, white blood cells, to clog veins leading into differnent parts of organs in the body. This creates a 'stroke' and without oxygen, these parts of the body fail and cause diseases.
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Originally Posted By RedSoxfan1978⏩
I spoke to a grown man at length the other day who was a Physician and he himself didn't believe that they were an absolute necessity either. I've spoken to other Physicians who feel the same.

Just saying....
They're not a necessity, if you have a medical reason not to vaccinate then don't. It is however necessary for everyone else to, to protect themselves and anyone else who can't, or can't yet, for whatever reason.
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Lol, wondered if that's what he meant.

How'd your GF get on with the strong curves book I sent you?
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Originally Posted By Condyle⏩
Ischemia can cause many problems,....

And that's just off the top of my head. So, is your contention that vaccines don't work, that they work but come with poisons attached, or that they work and aren't poison but somehow cause autism?
From my understanding there may be a few vaccines that we need, but most actually do harm in multiple ways. And yes I feel the western vaccines come with extra 'poisons' or atleast that the system knew of the effects well before vaccinations started on mass and prefers the population to have a degree of mental deterioration. This makes it better to subvert people and supply them with life long treatments. (upper class children raised on mental pharmaceuticals being one)

These foreign bodies (bacteria and viruses included) also cause inflammation or something and white blood cells stick to a veins walls to clog blood paths too.
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I have come in contact with several ppl who help develop vaccines and they openly say they don't use them on themselves or family members. You think your getting a small dosage of whatever pathogen but what else is in there? Do you trust the medical industry? Do you trust Big Pharma?
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
From my understanding there may be a few vaccines that we need, but most actually do harm in multiple ways. And yes I feel the western vaccines come with extra 'poisons' or atleast that the system knew of the effects well before vaccinations started on mass and prefers the population to have a degree of mental deterioration. This makes it better to subvert people and to sell them life long treatments.
If this was the case then why would they tell me a test revealed I was still immune instead of vaccinating me again.

And why do they have vaccines for animals? You think they're trying to keep the cat population stupid?
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
But they do it because they can pretend like they've spent so much time being a mom/researching how to best raise a child. If you ever read the excuses in comment sections they legitimately believe that the hours they spent googling "why vaccines are bad" and reading the first things that come up is the same as doing unbiased research. These types of people have enough education to be dangerous because they often times cite their degree as proof they are intelligent, but obviously they never have relevant degrees. I'd be the first to blame feminism for telling stay at home moms their "mom research" is equivalent to a lab study run by a bunch of PhDs.



I used to be 100% against homeopathy, but honestly some of it is legitimate and it sometimes does fill the gaps in western medicine. Occasionally western medicine gets too focused on fixing the problem instead of wondering why the problem is occurring and how to best treat the underlying issue at hand.
homeopathy is 100% bull****. don't confuse it with other alternative/complimentary medicine that may have some merit.
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Originally Posted By UWofPeace⏩
I have come in contact with several ppl who help develop vaccines and they openly say they don't use them on themselves or family members. You think your getting a small dosage of whatever pathogen but what else is in there? Do you trust the medical industry? Do you trust Big Pharma?
Anecdotal evidence, and probably a lie.

Why would someone who develops vaccines state that they won't use it on themselves, suggesting that what they're developing is harmful for humans?

brb i engineer things to slowly kill everyone
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
They're not a necessity, if you have a medical reason not to vaccinate then don't. It is however necessary for everyone else to, to protect themselves and anyone else who can't, or can't yet, for whatever reason.


Lol, wondered if that's what he meant.

How'd your GF get on with the strong curves book I sent you?
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she was/is interested, but it's on her back burner for now - she barely has time to doanyexercise at this point in school, not even running right now. after we're both done next may i think she's going to take me up on lifting.

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we both got lazy with diets and cleaned them up the past 3mo or so. she was much happier losing the few pounds she gained, but i still haven't quite convinced her lifting weights is the way to go. she's convinced she needs to drop to X weight/look skinny before she starts strength training seriously.

so now my job is trying to convince her (once she gets the time) to just start lifting. i've tried to tell her it makes eating less of a chore, since if you overeat it's not as big of deal with extra muscle to help burn it away..... but she thinks, for some reason, the way to go about looking good is to get down another few pounds or get "skinny/low bf" and then start lifting.

she challenged me to prove otherwise visually... so i'm trying to get a catalog of pics of women who went from just dieting (and were still avg body-type, not lean) to just lifting to show her you don't need to be at some fantasy level before you can take up weights. hah, so any help you could have on that front would be a plus

she's slooowly come around to the idea of weights thanks to some of the diet groups she's followed, but still not convinced 100%. i'm thinking once we're done with school the book will get a more earnest second look from her
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood⏩
Anecdotal evidence, and probably a lie.

Why would someone who develops vaccines state that they won't use it on themselves, suggesting that what they're developing is harmful for humans?

brb i engineer things to slowly kill everyone
If anything they probably said they wouldn't use anything they are developing right now/recently because it's not been tested/used long enough yet. I can certainly understand that viewpoint.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
If this was the case then why would they tell me a test revealed I was still immune instead of vaccinating me again.

And why do they have vaccines for animals? You think they're trying to keep the cat population stupid?
I dont know about animals... tinfoil hat on; maybe its to drain your pocket book after your cat gets cancer and needs expensive treatment.... why not vaccinate you again... well the main job was done when you were a child.
The Effect of Aluminum in Vaccines on Humans
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Originally Posted By derkerkjerk⏩
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she's slooowly come around to the idea of weights thanks to some of the diet groups she's followed,
Get her on 3 weeks of a fruit diet (only juice vegetables) including good fats like homemade bone broth and she'll lose lots of weight.
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Originally Posted By derkerkjerk⏩
short:
she was/is interested, but it's on her back burner for now - she barely has time to doanyexercise at this point in school, not even running right now. after we're both done next may i think she's going to take me up on lifting.

long:
we both got lazy with diets and cleaned them up the past 3mo or so. she was much happier losing the few pounds she gained, but i still haven't quite convinced her lifting weights is the way to go. she's convinced she needs to drop to X weight/look skinny before she starts strength training seriously.

so now my job is trying to convince her (once she gets the time) to just start lifting. i've tried to tell her it makes eating less of a chore, since if you overeat it's not as big of deal with extra muscle to help burn it away..... but she thinks, for some reason, the way to go about looking good is to get down another few pounds or get "skinny/low bf" and then start lifting.

she challenged me to prove otherwise visually... so i'm trying to get a catalog of pics of women who went from just dieting (and were still avg body-type, not lean) to just lifting to show her you don't need to be at some fantasy level before you can take up weights. hah, so any help you could have on that front would be a plus

she's slooowly come around to the idea of weights thanks to some of the diet groups she's followed, but still not convinced 100%. i'm thinking once we're done with school the book will get a more earnest second look from her
Bummer that she's not started yet, but good that she's still semi interested when she has time.

It took me awhile to come round to lifting being the way to get me where I want to be as well, took a lot of reading when at the time I thought I just need to eat as little calories as humanly possible lol. Sorry, I didn't take any before pics. I remember mentioning to you at the time that there is a fb group if she has fb, a lot of people post before and afters there.

Anyway, will stop derailing now lol
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
From my understanding there may be a few vaccines that we need, but most actually do harm in multiple ways. And yes I feel the western vaccines come with extra 'poisons' or atleast that the system knew of the effects well before vaccinations started on mass and prefers the population to have a degree of mental deterioration. This makes it better to subvert people and supply them with life long treatments. (upper class children raised on mental pharmaceuticals being one)

These foreign bodies (bacteria and viruses included) also cause inflammation or something and white blood cells stick to a veins walls to clog blood paths too.
A sample


The whole volume of 5 minutes videos are here... Im still on vol 2
http://executivereasoning.com/health...l_lost_v1.html
http://www.executivereasoning.com/he...l_lost_v2.html
http://www.executivereasoning.com/he...l_lost_v3.html

Nothing more official than a cheesy youtube video with a fake doctor lmao
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OP is a libtard *******


Fuk anyone that thinks I should be mandated to let .gov forcefully stick some chit into my body . I'm all for kids being vaccinated but me? Nope fuk off
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
From my understanding there may be a few vaccines that we need, but most actually do harm in multiple ways. And yes I feel the western vaccines come with extra 'poisons' or atleast that the system knew of the effects well before vaccinations started on mass and prefers the population to have a degree of mental deterioration. This makes it better to subvert people and supply them with life long treatments. (upper class children raised on mental pharmaceuticals being one)

These foreign bodies (bacteria and viruses included) also cause inflammation or something and white blood cells stick to a veins walls to clog blood paths too.
A sample


The whole volume of 5 minutes videos are here... Im still on vol 2
http://executivereasoning.com/health...l_lost_v1.html
http://www.executivereasoning.com/he...l_lost_v2.html
http://www.executivereasoning.com/he...l_lost_v3.html
No one gives a **** about your randomers on Youtube videos or your odd quote from someone with a doctorate. Post peer-reviewed papers from journals or STFU.
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Originally Posted By truth223⏩
OP is a libtard *******


Fuk anyone that thinks I should be mandated to let .gov forcefully stick some chit into my body . I'm all for kids being vaccinated but me? Nope fuk off
"My political philosophy can only be the right one herp derp"

I think you should be forced to be injected with vaccines. Its societys job to take care of the fukin morons like you and not lot you fukin idiots risk all the progress we have made because you're too fukin stupid
Originally Posted By infinit⏩
No one gives a **** about your randomers on Youtube videos or your odd quote from someone with a doctorate. Post peer-reviewed papers from journals or STFU.
Bout to get real silent in here
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
I dont know about animals... tinfoil hat on; maybe its to drain your pocket book after your cat gets cancer and needs expensive treatment.... why not vaccinate you again... well the main job was done when you were a child.
The Effect of Aluminum in Vaccines on Humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCzdliixnmI

Get her on 3 weeks of a fruit diet (only juice vegetables) including good fats like homemade bone broth and she'll lose lots of weight.
Hey look, we just found something that you know less about than vaccines
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
"My political philosophy can only be the right one herp derp"

I think you should be forced to be injected with vaccines. Its societys job to take care of the fukin morons like you and not lot you fukin idiots risk all the progress we have made because you're too fukin stupid



Bout to get real silent in here
What else should be .gov mandated by your expert opinion then *******? Lol @ this fukn cuck
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Originally Posted By truth223⏩
What else should be .gov mandated by your expert opinion then *******? Lol @ this fukn cuck
Education, Health, and Safety.

Too bad no amount of lifting is going to fix your jacked up face, maybe we had universal healthcare you could get on the plastic surgery list but alas you have to pay out of pocket and would go broke trying to fix it.
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Originally Posted By truth223⏩
What else should be .gov mandated by your expert opinion then *******? Lol @ this fukn cuck
Vaccines only work effectively with herd immunity. People who cannot have the vaccine because their too young, too ill or have a broken immune system get a strong degree of protection by being surrounded by a population with a very high proportion who are vaccinated. When idiots like you come along then it ****s it all up for them. I would give 0 ****s if you were only affecting your life, but this doesn't just affect you,
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[QUOTE=Arashi post_id=1490450221][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCzdliixnmI[url][/QUOTE]You get a cold > your body produces white blood cells
You get a minor bacterial infection > your body produces white blood cells
You have an area of inflammation > your body produces white blood cells

You get a vaccine > your body produces white blood cells

Why are the white blood cells produced by your body from the vaccine the ones which cause your proposed thromboembolism as opposed to any of the other mentioned causes of hematopoeisis?
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
Education, Health, and Safety.

Too bad no amount of lifting is going to fix your jacked up face, maybe we had universal healthcare you could get on the plastic surgery list but alas you have to pay out of pocket and would go broke trying to fix it.
strong argument there cuck. Maga mfer, the next 8 years are going to be awesome
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Originally Posted By truth223⏩
strong argument there cuck. Maga mfer, the next 8 years are going to be awesome
I hope Trump ends up a succesful president why would I wish anything less for the leader of the free world?

Lol are you being so brain washed by political ideology it triggers you so much. Also Trump believes in universal healthcare as well.


PS: Seriously your face is fukin busted
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Originally Posted By infinit⏩
Vaccines only work effectively with herd immunity. People who cannot have the vaccine because their too young, too ill or have a broken immune system get a strong degree of protection by being surrounded by a population with a very proportion who are vaccinated. When idiots like you come along then it ****s it all up for them. I would give 0 ****s if you were only affecting your life, but this doesn't just affect you,
To add, anti-vaccine populations also endanger healthy vaccinated populations as well. A larger population of infected individuals (anti-vax idiots) leads to a larger population of said pathogens. Larger populations = faster evolution = higher rates of novel emerging strains.
Secondly, many vaccines work on a success spectrum- it isn't always full immunity or nothing. Influenza is great example, where severity/time of disease is reduced though vaccines. Again, susceptible idiot anti-vax populations increase likelihoods of vaccinated individuals contracting pathogens that they wouldn't otherwise.
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post 1490456571 04-09-2017, 07:32 PM
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There ya go brah www .thehealthyhomeeconomist .com /six-reasons-to-say-no-to-vaccination/ disprove all pls
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
The thing that really worries me about government run healthcare is the idea they start mandating things. Personally, I haven't had a vaccine for anything in so long. Not that I really have a belief against it, I just havne't.
The step is too small from vaccines to microchips
I got this
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