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post 1490677791 04-11-2017, 12:54 PM
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so is the $800 figure floating around CASH money, or a voucher on your next UA flight?
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post 1490679021 04-11-2017, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
I have seen it happen twice, EatnC. I don't agree with the policy, but it isn't like there are a ton of different options when it comes to air travel. Would you be ok with missing your flight because that dude refused to get up when asked to?
True...True that Ronald. Oh yeah, I'd be pissed.

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From reddit again from an (alleged) lawyer -

Lawyer here. This myth that passengers don't have rights needs to go away, ASAP. You are dead wrong when saying that United legally kicked him off the plane.

First of all, it's airline spin to call this an overbooking. The statutory provision granting them the ability to deny boarding is about "OVERSALES", specifically defines as booking more reserved confirmed seats than there are available. This is not what happened. They did not overbook the flight; they had a fully booked flight, and not only did everyone already have a reserved confirmed seat, they were all sitting in them. The law allowing them to denying boarding in the event of an oversale does not apply.

Even if it did apply, the law is unambiguously clear that airlines have to give preference to everyone with reserved confirmed seats when choosing to involuntarily deny boarding. They have to always choose the solution that will affect the least amount of reserved confirmed seats. This rule is straightforward, and United makes very clear in their own contract of carriage that employees of their own or of other carriers may be denied boarding without compensation because they do not have reserved confirmed seats. On its face, it's clear that what they did was illegal-- they gave preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a.

Furthermore, even if you try and twist this into a legal application of 250.2a and say that United had the right to deny him boarding in the event of an overbooking; they did NOT have the right to kick him off the plane. Their contract of carriage highlights there is a complete difference in rights after you've boarded and sat on the plane, and Rule 21 goes over the specific scenarios where you could get kicked off. NONE of them apply here. He did absolutely nothing wrong and shouldn't have been targeted. He's going to leave with a hefty settlement after this fiasco.
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Originally Posted By yorkchawp
their stock is still up from last month lol


uwotm8?

weren't the only people who would've missed the flight due to the guy not getting up United employees in this case? Is "the customer's always right" an appropriate adage for this scenario? But to answer your question, I'd be pissed, but I wouldn't blame some random customer who was properly booked for the flight.
The whole flight would have been delayed. They aren't just going to go "oh, you won't listen to us? Ok sir." What if they said "OK sir, since you refuse to get off you can stay, yorkchawp, we will take your seat instead."

They were overbooked. Someone had to go or the flight wasn't taking off. You would have been ok with missing your flight or taking his place?
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Originally Posted By Rwina
i guess ussually few persons on the plane switch their seat volunteerly in exchange for the 800 dollar and night at a hotel.
thats different then using violence to get some one out of the plane.
And if nobody takes the deal, should they just ground the plane and tell the rest of the passengers to book another flight, because this retard wouldn't get up?
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Originally Posted By Podunks
A voucher that can be used at a later date, on United flights only, that is only good for a year. And it usually takes them days/weeks to get it to you.
yea, fukk that. they can go to $2500 and i still wouldn't take it. what a goofy ass compensation scheme.
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Originally Posted By Acal83
So you think that a mob scene would have been a better alternative? I dont think anyone is disputing that this was very wrong but people jumping in trying to intervene would have been far worse.
"SHOCK: Multiple Chicago police officers beaten to death by enraged mob of air-raging middle-class white people"

Not your typical headline.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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I think some ppl don't fly enough to understand how annoying it is and why the voucher isn't worth it. At Newark airport which is where I always fly out of you have to go like 3 to 4 hours early to get thru all the Bull****. A 2 hour flight to Florida took me basically all day. Fu k those vouchers. They aren't even cash to make the hassle worth it again
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
"SHOCK: Multiple Chicago police officers beaten to death by enraged mob of air-raging middle-class white people"

Not your typical headline.
Would legit jizz my pants if that ever came on the 6 o'clock news

One small win for the peasants
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Originally Posted By Podunks
A voucher that can be used at a later date, on United flights only, that is only good for a year. And it usually takes them days/weeks to get it to you.





Lol...
well you clearly supportive of the felon who lost his doctors liscence and traded sex for drugs
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Originally Posted By cardioman_23
well you clearly supportive of the felon who lost his doctors liscence and traded sex for drugs
100 percent. Something that happened 15 years ago has no effect on this situation at all. Felon or not he was a free man and paying customer at the time of this incident. His past has 0 effect on this.

Trying to say otherwise is just simply grasping for straws.
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Originally Posted By cardioman_23
well you clearly supportive of the felon who lost his doctors liscence and traded sex for drugs
Yep. Personal attacks on him don't negate the fact that United Airlines fukced up.

Basically your saying he deserved it because he's a felon? Lmao what a *******.

And who knows maybe it was a 18 year old HBB. Need pics to confirm if it was worth it or not.
Originally Posted By cardioman_23
lol if you think the doctor has any chance in taking on a large corporation which has the money to buy a law firm
Corporations lose cases/settle large settlements all of the time and that's with LACK of video evidence. Idk what you think lawyers are but they aren't legal demi-gods and can only do so much plus there are firms that will take this case on with no down payment because public opinion and video evidence is on this mans side and they know this will result in a million dollar payday.


You dont have much experience with life or the law.
From reddit again from an (alleged) lawyer -

Lawyer here. This myth that passengers don't have rights needs to go away, ASAP. You are dead wrong when saying that United legally kicked him off the plane.

First of all, it's airline spin to call this an overbooking. The statutory provision granting them the ability to deny boarding is about "OVERSALES", specifically defines as booking more reserved confirmed seats than there are available. This is not what happened. They did not overbook the flight; they had a fully booked flight, and not only did everyone already have a reserved confirmed seat, they were all sitting in them. The law allowing them to denying boarding in the event of an oversale does not apply.

Even if it did apply, the law is unambiguously clear that airlines have to give preference to everyone with reserved confirmed seats when choosing to involuntarily deny boarding. They have to always choose the solution that will affect the least amount of reserved confirmed seats. This rule is straightforward, and United makes very clear in their own contract of carriage that employees of their own or of other carriers may be denied boarding without compensation because they do not have reserved confirmed seats. On its face, it's clear that what they did was illegal-- they gave preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a.

Furthermore, even if you try and twist this into a legal application of 250.2a and say that United had the right to deny him boarding in the event of an overbooking; they did NOT have the right to kick him off the plane. Their contract of carriage highlights there is a complete difference in rights after you've boarded and sat on the plane, and Rule 21 goes over the specific scenarios where you could get kicked off. NONE of them apply here. He did absolutely nothing wrong and shouldn't have been targeted. He's going to leave with a hefty settlement after this fiasco.
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Originally Posted By cardioman_23
yup, anybody who knows law knows it is not black and white and its how well the lawyer presents it and makes the law interpreted in his favor, lol if anyone thinks this doctor can afford better lawyers than the corporation
It's a super highprofile case with a 99% chance of winning. A very good lawyer will take it on for the exposure more than anything.

Doctors salary can pay some decent upfront cost and 30% of the settlement they'll make good money and free advertising
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Also from another thread

the Doctor doesn't have a criminal record as stated by the media. The doctor on the plane was David Thanh Duc Dao, MD, not David Anh Duy Dao. Duc Dao has no criminal record.
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Originally Posted By CLEAN_SET_OF_10
This, just like the Jews boarding the trains. Just get in line, do what you're told and don't ask questions.
I might be with you if the holocaust actually happened
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Originally Posted By menseks
yea, fukk that. they can go to $2500 and i still wouldn't take it. what a goofy ass compensation scheme.
apparently by law for overbooking you can request a check and they have to give it to you. voucher is just for the people who don't know better

brb here is 10 $80 vouchers.
brb you can only use one per flight
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....android&hl=en

them reviews tho

"WOW. As soon as I got on board, I got an unexpected reaccommodation... to a comfy, spacious stretcher. Even if I have a headache, busted lips, bloody jaw, and a black eye, I love being an instant Internet sensation! Thanks United for not charging me extra for that. Should you be looking for an exceptional adventure, fly with United and use this app with its patented "drag and drop" features. Minus 2 stars for not getting me home."

"Love the new "Volunteer to be Assaulted" button. I don't even live in America but I clicked it anyways. Next thing I knew I was on the other side of the room with my head stuck between the armrest and the chair. Please add a warning to this feature as it caught me by surprise. I'll then change my review to 5/5."

"I tried to use the app but it refused to work for me and instead started beating me on the head. When I tried to turn it off, it blamed me for my injuries. My white wife had no problems using the app though. Strange! Customer service assured me that the app was working normally and was just re-accommodating me."

"I had a house, a car, a wife, kids and a dog until I downloaded this app. This app will take everything you love and call the cops to drag you out of your own home, steal your car, take the wife and kids so they can use your home as an Air B&B for United pilots. Be forewarned!!! Shame on you United. Shame on you Oscar Munoz!"

"I am preparing for an MMA contest in July and I hoped I can schedule a little sparing session with United Airlines. Unfortunately, I didn't find the "request a beating" feature through their app. I am really disappointed and I will not be using this airline again because of that."

"I really like the new drag and drop feature. After watching that doctor be dragged from his seat and dropped on the ground, then dragged off the plan I can see that #United is a company that practices what they preach...and I respect that. There's just not many companies that stand by their word like #United does. This is the most re-accommodating airline I've ever flown with and I wouldn't change it if you offered me $800."
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Originally Posted By Adnim
No, I'm just extremely familiar with the Chinese and Chinese culture. I lived there there for multiple years. This is exactly the type of thing they do. He did everything on purpose, because he'll try to sue the airline for money now.

And I can give 100 examples of white people in china barely doing anything at all, and then every single newspaper in the country puts that person on the front page, condemning them, while saying that all chinese are perfect.

And every comment in a thread like this would be saying "that foreigner is a guest in our country, he needs to follow our rules". Even if he was born in China. They would still call him a "foreigner", because of the color of his skin.
He's actually from Vietnam. But after all Asians = Chinese and all Chinese ppl do this spiele. No racist ain't gonna save u.
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Originally Posted By Upgrayyedd
lmao
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
The whole flight would have been delayed. They aren't just going to go "oh, you won't listen to us? Ok sir." What if they said "OK sir, since you refuse to get off you can stay, yorkchawp, we will take your seat instead."

They were overbooked. Someone had to go or the flight wasn't taking off. You would have been ok with missing your flight or taking his place?
not his fault it is overbooked. he paid money in exchange for a seat on the plane.
if united wanted to give the seat of some costumers to company employees, they should make a good offer.
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Wow, daily mail trying to character assassinate him by mixing him up with another homersexual doctor with the same surname (different names!) more suing to ensure!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ocial-********

But documents says David A Dao was the homersexual practicing in Kentucky

https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/7vu...eca60fd26b.jpg

but this guy's name is David Than Duc Dao practicing in New Orleans

WTF mayne.
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Originally Posted By Rwina
not his fault it is overbooked. he paid money in exchange for a seat on the plane.
if united wanted to give the seat of some costumers to company employees, they should make a good offer.
Yeah. I 100% agree.

To me this sounds like a civil matter that went full retard.

I wonder how much $$$ the guy will get?
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Originally Posted By CyberSheriff
I would buy for sure. They'll just adopt a Southwest type business model for a while and get back to where they were.
You sure know how to convey how little you know about strategy in business and how little you know about the airline industry and Southwest.

Southwest's processes are the most efficient in the industry, they also have the best employees (voted best place to work by Fortune magazine), they're operating margins are on the rise and the best in the industry. They also have the biggest market share domestically. Not mention they have the ability and team assembled to hedge energy prices.

So no, you can't "adopt a Southwest type business model"
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Originally Posted By NotANun21
Also from another thread

the Doctor doesn't have a criminal record as stated by the media. The doctor on the plane was David Thanh Duc Dao, MD, not David Anh Duy Dao. Duc Dao has no criminal record.
fake news GTFO he is close enough
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Wow, daily mail trying to character assassinate him by mixing him up with another homersexual doctor with the same surname (different names!) more suing to ensure!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ocial-********

But documents says David A Dao was the homersexual practicing in Kentucky

https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/7vu...eca60fd26b.jpg

but this guy's name is David Than Duc Dao practicing in New Orleans

WTF mayne.
*****s whole family are doctors shet
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Originally Posted By menseks
so is the $800 figure floating around CASH money, or a voucher on your next UA flight?
Usually they **** you over. My brother took it once and it was 5 100$ vouchers that expired at end oof year. Only one allowed a flight.
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Did what's his face get banned cause he was trying to identify as Chinese? Good Job Mod Man
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