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post 1503687711 05-06-2017, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
The director David Lynch once worked in a mental institution. He said that was inspiration for lots of his stuff.

An immature person has an experience like that and they find it funny. For instance, in Twin Peaks there's the "log lady" and she carries a log like it's a baby. That seems funny, until you actually meet someone like that and realize, her baby probably died, or she killed it, or she thinks she did, and so on. Then, it's not so funny that a lady got so heart broken, she went crazy.

The mature person sees it's human tragedy.

Where I grew up, there was a woman who walked around in a bridal gown daily. She was going to get married and the guy never showed up, she went crazy, and wore the gown henceforth. My family would laugh when they saw her, but even as a kid I knew it was horrible.

Twin Peaks is collection of that kind of stuff. But, instead of having weird people with rational explanations, if does the immature people thing of having supernatural ones. There's so many weird and nasty people in town because of a dark force in the woods. That's the old primitive way of explaining events and natural occurrences via the supernatural.

I don't like Lynch anymore because all of his movies have that kind of theme.
The show does seem to make fun of tragedy the way an adolescent would....Almost trying to be too cool for it.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
The show does seem to make fun of tragedy the way an adolescent would....Almost trying to be too cool for it.
Yeah, I had so much fun watching it when it was on TV, then it came on netflix and I was hyped. But, after the first episode I realized what it was.

It's like a$$hole boys seeing someone cry and then doing an extended imitation of the crying. I used to beat kids like that up in high school.

As an adult I've known all kinds of people who went crazy, got murdered, killed themselves and so on. I can't stand watching normal crime shows now let alone something that kind of makes fun of it or sees it as "weird", but that's just me.

However, the show has some great stuff and genuine weirdness that is something else. I would love to see a show about how it was all made.

For instance, the FBI guy has these dreams, which are real, and this foreign looking midget comes out, walks in this odd way and talks backwards, saying creepy cryptic sh!t! When I first watched that----the WTF reactions was awesome. Anyway, I'd love to know how all of this was explained to the actors, that would be fun to see.

Side note: I am older and have a great memory. I can recall seeing Star Wars in the movies as a little kid. There was nothing like it, ever, so it was shocker. Jurassic park was a shocker, for the effect. The firs Batman movie was amazing. And, Twin Peaks was the first really weird TV show probably ever, so it's noteworthy.

It was designed for my generation who were what modern hipsters imitate and I'm amazed it ever got on TV.
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Best show of all time up until about Episode 16 when it just goes massively downhill.

Will be literally shaking when watching the new season premiere.

David Chase said The Sopranos was 'Twin Peaks in New Jersey' or something like that. I don't agree with that but almost all the greatest shows of the modern era are indebted to Twin Peaks. Absolutely unique.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
But seriously, the whole show is supposed to make you cringe.

I tried rewatching and I have gotten past this type of cynical stuff.

In the first episode the director, who I think is a nut, purposely had these long still shots of people crying. He obviously thinks it's funny that people are breaking down crying because someone got murdered. When I was younger, I found the show to be hilarious, but now that I know what it's like to be in a sh!tty situation, it's not so funny.

Anyway, I used to get a giant bottle of port, get together with friends, get drunk, and laugh my ass off at the weirdness. The scenes with the midget, holy sh!t, but that was then.
Man you totally misunderstand. Most shows portray grief as a few seconds of mourning before getting on with the action. Twin Peaks shows the Palmers' grief for the loss of a murdered child like nothing else ever had before. He's not laughing at them.
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Originally Posted By MrDevereaux⏩
Man you totally misunderstand. Most shows portray grief as a few seconds of mourning before getting on with the action. Twin Peaks shows the Palmers' grief for the loss of a murdered child like nothing else ever had before. He's not laughing at them.
Give me a break.

You have to look at the context of the whole show.

In addition, all of his movies have a morbid fascination with weirdness. I love weirdness, but his is tragic weirdness, not amusing.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Give me a break.

You have to look at the context of the whole show.

In addition, all of his movies have a morbid fascination with weirdness. I love weirdness, but his is tragic weirdness, not amusing.
Aren't we saying the same thing? Yes it's tragic weirdness I agree, but you really think he is laughing at grief? I can't prove you wrong but my reaction to the scene where Leland/Sarah find out that their daughter has been killed (the dangling phone) was that it was just harrowing. I don't think any TV show has ever made me feel that way (and my other favourite shows are Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Wire, Six Feed Under, etc).

Lynch's genius is that his stuff is really weird but that weirdness somehow connects with people on a very visceral level. If it were just weird it would be much easier to dismiss.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
Its got to be the most ridiculously melodramatic show I've seen in a very long time.

Not sure I can continue.
OP. I did the exact same thing last year. Really wanted to like it and tried toughing it out, but "Not sure I can continue." and couldn't continue.
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Originally Posted By MusicProducer⏩
OP. I did the exact same thing last year. Really wanted to like it and tried toughing it out, but "Not sure I can continue." and couldn't continue.
I guess watching the show is a different experience in 2017 than it was in 1990/1. Wonder if you brahs would have felt differently back then. I guess there's so much choice now it's harder to stick with shows. That said I deliberately avoided Twin Peaks when it first aired, clicked onto it by accident while watching something else and couldn't tear myself away right up until when it ended (although the latter half of Season 2 is awful, a couple of episodes aside).
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The show clearly makes fun of the melodramatic nature many hour long dramas as well as many of the tropes that come with it. At least as far as the pilot is concerned.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
The show clearly makes fun of the melodramatic nature many hour long dramas as well as many of the tropes that come with it.
Yeah there's a lot of that. The whole 'Invitation to Love' thing, lol.
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Originally Posted By MrDevereaux⏩
Aren't we saying the same thing? Yes it's tragic weirdness I agree, but you really think he is laughing at grief? I can't prove you wrong but my reaction to the scene where Leland/Sarah find out that their daughter has been killed (the dangling phone) was that it was just harrowing. I don't think any TV show has ever made me feel that way (and my other favourite shows are Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Wire, Six Feed Under, etc).

Lynch's genius is that his stuff is really weird but that weirdness somehow connects with people on a very visceral level. If it were just weird it would be much easier to dismiss.
He's not a genius.

Tragedy is just that, it's not weirdness.

What he makes is a definition of pornography.

That's where you cast a lurid light on something that should be private, typically for the sensation of seeing that thing exposed. A great example of how the weather channel would show "weather porn" which would be endless clips of people's homes getting destroyed in storms. There's no reason to watch that, people just do because they want to see the homes getting blown up.

So, if you have all of this massive grief in a very trivial and stupid story, you're just putting it in there for the fun of it. Twin Peaks had no message, it was just weirdness for it's own sake. All of his stuff is like that.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
He's not a genius.

Tragedy is just that, it's not weirdness.

What he makes is a definition of pornography.

That's where you cast a lurid light on something that should be private, typically for the sensation of seeing that thing exposed. A great example of how the weather channel would show "weather porn" which would be endless clips of people's homes getting destroyed in storms. There's no reason to watch that, people just do because they want to see the homes getting blown up.

So, if you have all of this massive grief in a very trivial and stupid story, you're just putting it in there for the fun of it. Twin Peaks had no message, it was just weirdness for it's own sake. All of his stuff is like that.
You've been on the misc 10 years, and this is what you're getting bent out of shape over. Gooby pls.
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did david lynch do se7en? with pitt and freeman?
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its made by David Lynch..what did u expect lol


i am trying to get into his movies...but its hard to understand sometimes and needs lot of attention

will rep someone if can explain his style and films
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
He's not a genius.

Tragedy is just that, it's not weirdness.

What he makes is a definition of pornography.

That's where you cast a lurid light on something that should be private, typically for the sensation of seeing that thing exposed. A great example of how the weather channel would show "weather porn" which would be endless clips of people's homes getting destroyed in storms. There's no reason to watch that, people just do because they want to see the homes getting blown up.

So, if you have all of this massive grief in a very trivial and stupid story, you're just putting it in there for the fun of it. Twin Peaks had no message, it was just weirdness for it's own sake. All of his stuff is like that.
Trivial and stupid story? The central story is a murder investigation. Lynch is portraying parental grief in the wake of a child's murder (which murder is the central story). One of the core themes of the movie (which focuses exclusively on the central story, not all the side plots) is incest. Again I am struggling to identify the triviality.

You have a genuinely strange way of thinking. That's not a criticism and you seem like a smart guy. I'm assuming you've had a pretty traumatic experience or lost loved ones.

Anyway as for Twin Peaks, each to their own but I'm counting the days until May 21st (22nd in the UK, simulcast on Sky Atlantic).
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
You mean the American Gothic with Gary Cole?
Yeah mane.

Wild Palms and Picket Fences were two other weird ones from that time.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
Yeah mane.

Wild Palms and Picket Fences were two other weird ones from that time.
Cool, Gary Cole is one of my favorite actors....I don't know if its OnDemand though.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Where I grew up, there was a woman who walked around in a bridal gown daily. She was going to get married and the guy never showed up, she went crazy, and wore the gown henceforth. My family would laugh when they saw her, but even as a kid I knew it was horrible.
I knew that lady too. She had a brother who did too much LSD and thought that he was an orange(the fruit), and she had a son who cut his mouth on a razor blade in Halloween candy one year.
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Cool, Gary Cole is one of my favorite actors....I don't know if its OnDemand though.
Everything is on Demand when you know that dude named Cody.
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6 episodes in...Agent Cooper really loves coffee.
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I'm gonna have to watch the movie too.
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Twin Peaks is GOAT.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
I'm gonna have to watch the movie too.
That was a terrible disappointment as it had nothing to do with the show!

It was like he threw a bunch of stuff together and called it a movie.

I can still remember seeing it the Friday it came out and I was WTF!!!
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what the fuking fuk.. i just finished it

wtf is up with david lynch? why is he so fuking weird.

i like some weirdness but his chit was way out of whack. i cant articulate quite what pisses me off about it.. i guess because theres no point? anybody can be weird as chit
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Originally Posted By AreolaBorealis⏩
any titties in the show
Not in the series, but I think there are in the movie Fire Walk With Me.
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On season 2 episode 4....

My face during every episode so far:

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I think I'll be able to finish this by Wednesday at the latest.
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Sad to hear about Michael Parks...Just as I've been watching him on this show.

Hell of an actor...He made everything better.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
The director David Lynch once worked in a mental institution. He said that was inspiration for lots of his stuff.

An immature person has an experience like that and they find it funny. For instance, in Twin Peaks there's the "log lady" and she carries a log like it's a baby. That seems funny, until you actually meet someone like that and realize, her baby probably died, or she killed it, or she thinks she did, and so on. Then, it's not so funny that a lady got so heart broken, she went crazy.

The mature person sees it's human tragedy.

Where I grew up, there was a woman who walked around in a bridal gown daily. She was going to get married and the guy never showed up, she went crazy, and wore the gown henceforth. My family would laugh when they saw her, but even as a kid I knew it was horrible.

Twin Peaks is collection of that kind of stuff. But, instead of having weird people with rational explanations, if does the immature people thing of having supernatural ones. There's so many weird and nasty people in town because of a dark force in the woods. That's the old primitive way of explaining events and natural occurrences via the supernatural.

I don't like Lynch anymore because all of his movies have that kind of theme.
Holee phuck that's a real-life Miss Havisham out of Great Expectations by Charles Dickens, that's really sad/creepy. Also in retrospect you've got to wonder did the guy realise she was cray and that's why he legged it .. cause as devastating as it might be, no-one sane would act like that.

Watched Twin Peaks as a kid (probably far too young); weird, weird show.

Also someone asked about bewbs (lol) and while I don't remember any nudity, there was a lot of subtle sexual stuff with Sherilynn Fenn, Lara Flynn Boyle (who looked nice then) and the sheriff with his asian wife/gf.
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Originally Posted By Maatkarah⏩
Holee phuck that's a real-life Miss Havisham out of Great Expectations by Charles Dickens, that's really sad/creepy. Also in retrospect you've got to wonder did the guy realise she was cray and that's why he legged it .. cause as devastating as it might be, no-one sane would act like that.


Also someone asked about bewbs (lol) and while I don't remember any nudity, there was a lot of subtle sexual stuff with Sherilynn Fenn, Lara Flynn Boyle (who looked nice then) and the sheriff with his asian wife/gf.
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