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People who are so eager to line the pockets of criminal bankers are disgusting.
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05-17-2017, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I own my own home (apartment) no debt on it, as well as rentals (leveraged) and 347k in shares / p2p lending / managed funds, / private equity.A car should not and cannot be an investment (unless you are a car dealer/classic car restorer).
Maybe where you live you still drive old fashioned pushrod engines etc. That's fair enough, but where I live even qualified mechanics can't fix many complex issues and defer you to to the dealership who then charge thousands for a replacement lighbulb etc.
Red. Red. Red.
Who claimed to make money from buying a car? WTF? ??!!
'fuk outta here with your extremely irrelevant utterances.
It's all about convenience.
Renting is basically where it's at.But only with vehicles.
Just LOL @ most of the clueless pricks ITT who probably pay cash for cars but rent their homes LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Maybe where you live you still drive old fashioned pushrod engines etc. That's fair enough, but where I live even qualified mechanics can't fix many complex issues and defer you to to the dealership who then charge thousands for a replacement lighbulb etc.
Red. Red. Red.
Who claimed to make money from buying a car? WTF? ??!!
'fuk outta here with your extremely irrelevant utterances.
It's all about convenience.
Renting is basically where it's at.But only with vehicles.
Just LOL @ most of the clueless pricks ITT who probably pay cash for cars but rent their homes LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Currently saving hard to make that 347k into 400k by year end when I will draw down further on my equity in my rental property (@ 5.5%) and use it to buy a $70k car new.
I spose its the same as selling $70k worth of shares, paying cash and then borrow $70k at 5.5% and buying back $70k of shares.
At some point when you have worked hard, saved and invested for 15 years, you have to think, I am either going to spend it now, spend it later, or not spend it at all.
FYI, one of THESE!!!

05-17-2017, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted By 8eggs⏩
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05-17-2017, 06:03 AM
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It's quite simple folks.
Let's say you have 10k in savings:
- Spend it on a deposit for a house instead of a car.
- Rent the house out to a mouth breather.
- Mouth breather pays the mortgage plus a little more towards....
a) Your monthly bus fare (£100 per month)
b) Your lease car (as little as £120 per month)
It's not rocket science.
Meanwhile all those idiots who advocate paying cash for cars probably rent their homes.
....you couldn't make it up!
Let's say you have 10k in savings:
- Spend it on a deposit for a house instead of a car.
- Rent the house out to a mouth breather.
- Mouth breather pays the mortgage plus a little more towards....
a) Your monthly bus fare (£100 per month)
b) Your lease car (as little as £120 per month)
It's not rocket science.
Meanwhile all those idiots who advocate paying cash for cars probably rent their homes.
....you couldn't make it up!

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05-17-2017, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Gizzyhardcore⏩
You're going to pay 70k for an econobox? LMFAO!I own my own home (apartment) no debt on it, as well as rentals (leveraged) and 347k in shares / p2p lending / managed funds, / private equity.
Currently saving hard to make that 347k into 400k by year end when I will draw down further on my equity in my rental property (@ 5.5%) and use it to buy a $70k car new.
I spose its the same as selling $70k worth of shares, paying cash and then borrow $70k at 5.5% and buying back $70k of shares.
At some point when you have worked hard, saved and invested for 15 years, you have to think, I am either going to spend it now, spend it later, or not spend it at all.
FYI, one of THESE!!!

Currently saving hard to make that 347k into 400k by year end when I will draw down further on my equity in my rental property (@ 5.5%) and use it to buy a $70k car new.
I spose its the same as selling $70k worth of shares, paying cash and then borrow $70k at 5.5% and buying back $70k of shares.
At some point when you have worked hard, saved and invested for 15 years, you have to think, I am either going to spend it now, spend it later, or not spend it at all.
FYI, one of THESE!!!

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05-17-2017, 06:06 AM
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Cash is nice but when banks are loaning money at 2.0% why would you not use their money?
Just saying.
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05-17-2017, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Fuk off slaphead you own one house (gifted to you by your dead grandmother) and have a mortgage on another.Ok. Tell us the deal you have on your vehicles and the misc will tell you how smart you have been. Srs.
You also have no family and will die alone in a puddle of piss surrounded by cats.
Trump you ain't.
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05-17-2017, 06:14 AM
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Luckily I only spent 2 months of savings to buy my car outright, should last me about another 100k miles easy. Spent about 5 months looking tho, but at least it was spent killing off my prior ride. Cant skimp on insurance when you dont own it outright.
05-17-2017, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
yeah wtf?You're going to pay 70k for an econobox? LMFAO!
70k NZD is about 50k USD. even then, the MSRP for a 2017 ford fiesta is about $13.5k USD in the states.
05-17-2017, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
its a fast econobox that does skidsYou're going to pay 70k for an econobox? LMFAO!
and yeah $70k NZD, I think they are $35k in the US.
and its a maybe, I already have an audi RS4, so it is slightly excessive having another car
05-17-2017, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted By RedSoxfan1978⏩
this.Cash is nice but when banks are loaning money at 2.0% why would you not use their money?
Just saying.
Just saying.
Borrow from the bank straight into vanguard. Or this even, do you even peer to peer lend?

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05-17-2017, 06:27 AM
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**** a car payment SRS
05-17-2017, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
10k for a house deposit?? u wot m8It's quite simple folks.
Let's say you have 10k in savings:
- Spend it on a deposit for a house instead of a car.
- Rent the house out to a mouth breather.
- Mouth breather pays the mortgage plus a little more towards....
a) Your monthly bus fare (£100 per month)
b) Your lease car (as little as £120 per month)
It's not rocket science.
Meanwhile all those idiots who advocate paying cash for cars probably rent their homes.
....you couldn't make it up!
Let's say you have 10k in savings:
- Spend it on a deposit for a house instead of a car.
- Rent the house out to a mouth breather.
- Mouth breather pays the mortgage plus a little more towards....
a) Your monthly bus fare (£100 per month)
b) Your lease car (as little as £120 per month)
It's not rocket science.
Meanwhile all those idiots who advocate paying cash for cars probably rent their homes.
....you couldn't make it up!

In what as*hole of the world do you live where that is possible?
Leasing is not the best option for most people... nowhere near. At least where I am. If you want a new car then sure. But you will be paying for that luxury
05-17-2017, 06:32 AM
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vehicles arent an investment at all so you're technically throwing half what you paid down the toilet to begin with. 1-3% interest on middle class priced vehicle($15-25k) is 100% acceptable
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I heard that dealerships will give better deals to financers because they make money off interest. But op went full potato when he said lease was a better option lmfao. The ONLY reason you should lease is if 1. You're a car guy and know you're wasting your money on a brand new car but it's what you enjoy. 2. For your career where what you drive needs to be presentable.
But not buying something with cash when you can is poor person logic. Thinking debt is as long as you can pay it off is just dumb.
But not buying something with cash when you can is poor person logic. Thinking debt is as long as you can pay it off is just dumb.
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So are you suggesting that you pay to rent a car for the rest of your life?
Buy a cert-preowned with a dealer warranty on it.
brb avoided the 3 year new car depreciation
brb less than 30k miles
brb still looks brand new
brb $9000 over 3 years not vanishing once lease it over
brb a well maintained quality car lasts 15-20 years
brb leasing is not financially intelligent for the modern middle class american
Buy a cert-preowned with a dealer warranty on it.
brb avoided the 3 year new car depreciation
brb less than 30k miles
brb still looks brand new
brb $9000 over 3 years not vanishing once lease it over
brb a well maintained quality car lasts 15-20 years
brb leasing is not financially intelligent for the modern middle class american
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I'd rather pay cash because I don't want to see a big payment getting drafted from my account every month, reminding me what a dumb purchase I made.
Rather pull he trigger once, then enjoy the vehicle with no ragrets (no neck tattoo)
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I think the only real way to win in acquiring a car is to outright buy a reliable used model with low miles. BMWs and Mercs are notorious for losing something like 40% of their value in the first three years. that's insane.
If I were to get a car now, I'd seek out a 2013 Cadillac ATS or 2013 Audi A5. Both can be found with 30k~ miles and loaded with ALL the fixins (premium nav/sound, sun roof, sexy rims) for approx 25,000 freedom dollars. The 2017 A5 loaded is $52,000.
If I were to get a car now, I'd seek out a 2013 Cadillac ATS or 2013 Audi A5. Both can be found with 30k~ miles and loaded with ALL the fixins (premium nav/sound, sun roof, sexy rims) for approx 25,000 freedom dollars. The 2017 A5 loaded is $52,000.
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Is he arguing that paying cash for a car is unwise because its value depreciates...but financing the depreciating asset is smart?
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Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
Pretty much.So are you suggesting that you pay to rent a car for the rest of your life
Owning a car outright in 2017 is laughable.
Take a look at people who own their own cars. They're either old or they smell.
Have fun sitting amongst someone else's rolled-up boogers, fart-stains and finger nails.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
Banker crew. You mad?People who are so eager to line the pockets of criminal bankers are disgusting.
Nothing rots like a car does.
05-17-2017, 07:02 AM
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Possibly the dumbest thread I've ever seen. Not sure if op is trolling.
I only buy cars outright. It's not an investment, I do it for fun. I have a fukton of money left over. Lol @ people like op who want to make a bunch of money and just let it rot in their account. Money doesn't matter if you only spend it on "smart" things.
I only buy cars outright. It's not an investment, I do it for fun. I have a fukton of money left over. Lol @ people like op who want to make a bunch of money and just let it rot in their account. Money doesn't matter if you only spend it on "smart" things.
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Lol at people ITT who don't understand how to use leverage properly. The interest rate for financing a car is a pittance nowadays. I financed mine for <1%. I can easily outearn that just by putting my money in a 30 year gov bond ETF and collecting the dividend check for the financing term.
Not all debt is bad, people. The problem comes when people use debt to bite off more than they can chew at rates that are unsustainable, but lol at worrying about financing something at 1-2%.
Not all debt is bad, people. The problem comes when people use debt to bite off more than they can chew at rates that are unsustainable, but lol at worrying about financing something at 1-2%.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
He doesnt have a car because work just lets him drive the mail van everywhere.Ok. Tell us the deal you have on your vehicles and the misc will tell you how smart you have been. Srs.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
how much are fukkin houses in the north famIt's quite simple folks.
Let's say you have 10k in savings:
- Spend it on a deposit for a house instead of a car.
- Rent the house out to a mouth breather.
- Mouth breather pays the mortgage plus a little more towards....
a) Your monthly bus fare (£100 per month)
b) Your lease car (as little as £120 per month)
It's not rocket science.
Meanwhile all those idiots who advocate paying cash for cars probably rent their homes.
....you couldn't make it up!
Let's say you have 10k in savings:
- Spend it on a deposit for a house instead of a car.
- Rent the house out to a mouth breather.
- Mouth breather pays the mortgage plus a little more towards....
a) Your monthly bus fare (£100 per month)
b) Your lease car (as little as £120 per month)
It's not rocket science.
Meanwhile all those idiots who advocate paying cash for cars probably rent their homes.
....you couldn't make it up!

i need 50k deposit and at least salary of 50k/year (gives me mortgage of 150k) just to get a chitty 1 bedroom flat.....
also think about it - mortgage is rental of money..... so surely renting house is a good thing by your logic?
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Originally Posted By RmBoyos⏩
It's irrelevant really when you can get a 100% mortgage.how much are fukkin houses in the north fam
http://www.money.co.uk/mortgages/100...FeK97QodAYQPwg
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