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post 1508312761 06-13-2017, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird
I agree.
I just hate how everyone caters to a select few.
I guess i can see if he had gone through with the operation and they were just discriminating against him (her.. whatever) but dude has a penis and I would feel uncomfortable if I was getting a pedicure and he was walking around naked.

Instead of people admitting it's a mental illness they are all just going along with it like it's completely normal. It must suck feeling like you were born the wrong gender for sure, but they shouldn't expect everyone to kiss their ass .
Oh yeah I agree, she shouldn't be in there, I think I already said that earlier in the thread. I was just going off on a tangent and correcting your correction
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend
Oh yeah I agree, she shouldn't be in there, I think I already said that earlier in the thread. I was just going off on a tangent and correcting your correction
Lol touche
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Wait....

Did everyone miss the point that it was fine for them to not allow males in?


There is only backlash because they wouldn't allow a transgender in.
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post 1508321831 06-13-2017, 06:22 PM
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Every propenent of LGBT "rights" up until a few years used to swear up and down the line that the slippery slope arguement against them was a "fallacy". With each passing year, their demands keep getting more and more absurd, and they have proven their term "slippery slope fallacy" to be nothing more than a bs buzz phrase.

This is coming from someone who used to support things like gays having the right to marry. I sort of still believe in that concept in theory. But as much as I hate to say this, the hard leaning right wingers who raged on about it being a "slippery slope" were scarily accurate.

These alt-left progressive liberals are never, and I mean NEVER, happy with anything. The more you give them, the more they take and demand. Trying to come to reasonable compromises with them is a complete waste of time. No matter how often they get their way, they've always got some bullchit "cause" or "movement" they need to push their agenda for, because the whole victim mentality obsession is literally a lifestyle for them.
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Originally Posted By GiantMonkey
Wait....

Did everyone miss the point that it was fine for them to not allow males in?


There is only backlash because they wouldn't allow a transgender in.
Wearing a wig, dressing in drag and *maybe* taking some hormone drugs doesn't make a man a woman, and certainly not to the extent where the rest of the 99.6% of the population should have to let these trannies ruin sports, nude spas, locker rooms, etc. If they want to argue their "right" to do that chit, then they should at least have to have all the standard hormone treatments and sex reassignment surgery while carrying documentation proving it, none of this halfway "pre-op, no hormone therapy tranny" crap.

To be honest, no one without a daughter, or at least sister should be able to have a liberal opinion and be taken seriously whatsoever about this. Once you have a daughter and some "trans" asssholes wearing female clothing and putting their hair in a ponytail wants to share bathrooms/lockerooms and chit with them, feel free to chime in on your thoughts on the matter. Until then, shut your fukking face and quit thinking you have a right to have such an extreme opinion on something that has zero impact on you personally.
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I think all of the people outraging over trans-rights are secretly trying to help men. Think about it, everything they cry about involves men being able to see women naked. Men going into womens bathrooms, men going into naked spas. They are giving us what we want yet we fight against it. We should be accepting of ways for men to legally see women naked in public.
post 1508326391 06-13-2017, 07:08 PM
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post 1508327711 06-13-2017, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By 7rmr
Women's bathrooms don't have urinals...
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Originally Posted By 7rmr
Honestly, I really do think this will be different. As I said, this is completely different from a washroom/change room where the person is only briefly naked off to the side or behind a closed door.

Here you're spending significant time nude. And most women are not going to want to sit and relax next to someone with a dick.

There's a reason these women chose to go to a single sex spa.

Hopefully sanity prevails here.

As someone who lives in Toronto, I haven't see anything about this on social media etc other than a brief news story last night that simply reported the facts.

Maybe I'll be wrong. But I really doubt this will even be a story after a few days.
LMAO at this hateful transphobic bigot who thinks that HE gets to decide how other people identify.

Toronto is a wonderful, progressive city and the majority of Torontonians believe that brave and beautiful women with feminine penises should be allowed to proudly display them whenever and wherever they feel like it.

Go back to your hateful little Alberta village if you don't want to join the rest of Canada in the 21st century.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
Wearing a wig, dressing in drag and *maybe* taking some hormone drugs doesn't make a man a woman, and certainly not to the extent where the rest of the 99.6% of the population should have to let these trannies ruin sports, nude spas, locker rooms, etc. If they want to argue their "right" to do that chit, then they should at least have to have all the standard hormone treatments and sex reassignment surgery while carrying documentation proving it, none of this halfway "pre-op, no hormone therapy tranny" crap.

To be honest, no one without a daughter, or at least sister should be able to have a liberal opinion and be taken seriously whatsoever about this. Once you have a daughter and some "trans" asssholes wearing female clothing and putting their hair in a ponytail wants to share bathrooms/lockerooms and chit with them, feel free to chime in on your thoughts on the matter. Until then, shut your fukking face and quit thinking you have a right to have such an extreme opinion on something that has zero impact on you personally.
dude you got a lot of issues. lol
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Originally Posted By usersignup2
dude you got a lot of issues. lol
Care to explain what was illogical about a single thing I said in that post, or would prefer to leave it at chiming in with a bullchit add-hominem insult?
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Originally Posted By 7rmr
Honestly, I really do think this will be different. As I said, this is completely different from a washroom/change room where the person is only briefly naked off to the side or behind a closed door.

Here you're spending significant time nude. And most women are not going to want to sit and relax next to someone with a dick.

There's a reason these women chose to go to a single sex spa.

Hopefully sanity prevails here.

As someone who lives in Toronto, I haven't see anything about this on social media etc other than a brief news story last night that simply reported the facts.

Maybe I'll be wrong. But I really doubt this will even be a story after a few days.
Nah, forget sanity, I want a war to be started. Would be so entertaining.

If I had the option, I'd vote Yes on the letting the tranny in full nude spas
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Just because you get some bolt ons and shoot yourself up with hormones doesn't make you a woman. Good for the spa. Hopefully they don't cave.
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if a man has his penis professionally cut off he'd be allowed in? do they have a time frame for how long after the surgery you have to wait to be allowed in or they cool if you're still a bloody scabby healing mess down there?


when does this get so disgusting we stop or will this just keep going forever? whats the end game? does anyone have any clue where this ends? what the fkn fk is this chit?


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Originally Posted By 7rmr
First use of the distinction between biological sex and gender was in the 1950's by John Money.

Prior to that gender was used for categories of nouns.

It has never been a synonym for sex.
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Gender

Wrong.
GEN'DER, noun [Latin genus, from geno, gigno; Gr.to beget, or to be born; Eng. kind. Gr. a woman, a wife; Sans. gena, a wife, and genaga, a father. We have begin from the same root. See Begin and Can.]

1. Properly, kind; sort.

2. A sex, male or female. Hence,
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird
I agree.
I just hate how everyone caters to a select few.
I guess i can see if he had gone through with the operation and they were just discriminating against him (her.. whatever) but dude has a penis and I would feel uncomfortable if I was getting a pedicure and he was walking around naked.

Instead of people admitting it's a mental illness they are all just going along with it like it's completely normal. It must suck feeling like you were born the wrong gender for sure, but they shouldn't expect everyone to kiss their ass .
Yep. There is a popular study ( a few others as well) that shows alarmingly high suicide rates among post op patients. Though the study notes it's limitations. It's also says although surgery can help it may not be enough. Study seems to suggest more focus on post op therapy and care after surgery.
"Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and ****tic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
Seems to me Surgery isn't the be all end all fix all my problems. Pretty sad hearing the stories of regret from some of the people after thinking it was a good idea.
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So when the canadian government forces them to let in trannies, how many canadian miscers are going to go in 'identifying as female'.

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Originally Posted By GreekyBeth
Agree 100% with the spa. We (trans women) know what we're getting into prior to transitioning, and to to think others won't find a non-operative trans woman's franks and beans off putting is being extremely naive and short sighted.

It's different, and certainly not 'normal' in regards to social mores. Have surgery and no one will think twice.
Hey, as a Tranny what do you think of the argument that Trannies shouldn't have to tell dudes they used to be dudes before phucking? Because I consider myself a very open minded liberal, but when I heard someone argue that it honestly pissed me off
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Originally Posted By Caxoo
Hey, as a Tranny what do you think of the argument that Trannies shouldn't have to tell dudes they used to be dudes before phucking? Because I consider myself a very open minded liberal, but when I heard someone argue that it honestly pissed me off
Don't want to derail thread, but all parties should be well aware prior to engaging in any type of intimacy or intercourse.
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Originally Posted By Caxoo
Hey, as a Tranny what do you think of the argument that Trannies shouldn't have to tell dudes they used to be dudes before phucking? Because I consider myself a very open minded liberal, but when I heard someone argue that it honestly pissed me off
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Toronto is just turning into a massive liberal shthole. I didn't think I would ever be really disappointed in being Canadian, but this whole Trudeau era is fuking embarrassing.

Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980
You cant legally be a woman with "male genitals" so...
In Canada you can.
Lauren Southern, far right media person, legally changed her sex to male. All her ID says that she is a male, and it took her 15 minutes to do so. Also happened in Canada.



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Originally Posted By Legs09
if a man has his penis professionally cut off he'd be allowed in? do they have a time frame for how long after the surgery you have to wait to be allowed in or they cool if you're still a bloody scabby healing mess down there?


when does this get so disgusting we stop or will this just keep going forever? whats the end game? does anyone have any clue where this ends? what the fkn fk is this chit?


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This is just my opinion but if I were the spa owner I'd say if he is able to undress without blood oozing everywhere from his new genitals then he should be allowed in 14 days or more post op or whenever oozing has stopped (whichever comes first)

Also if his "clit" is over 2 inches post op, or if his new vagina has long labia (aka beef curtains) then he should not be allowed in.
I'd be very uncomfortable seeing a 5" clit.
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird
This is just my opinion but if I were the spa owner I'd sayif he is able to undress without blood oozing everywhere from his new genitals then he should be allowed in14 days or more post op or whenever oozing has stopped (whichever comes first)

Also if his "clit" is over 2 inches post op, or if his new vagina has long labia (aka beef curtains) then he should not be allowed in.
I'd be very uncomfortable seeing a 5" clit.
So by this logic women would be banned for ~5 days each month?
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So the spa can tell half the population it can't come in but a trans person gets to be upset?

I couldn't care less about women's only spas gyms etc., if I were a woman I wouldn't want to be stared at like some of the guys in my gym do at girls. It's just interesting the way this logic works.

Also obviously Toronto
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
So by this logic women would be banned for ~5 days each month?
Only if he wore a diva cup should he be allowed in. Also, no five o'clock shadow allowed.

Rules are rules bro. I'd run my spa tight just like his imaginary vagina.
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Originally Posted By Caxoo
Hey, as a Tranny what do you think of the argument that Trannies shouldn't have to tell dudes they used to be dudes before phucking? Because I consider myself a very open minded liberal, but when I heard someone argue that it honestly pissed me off
I've said it on here before but I consider it rape for trannys to not reveal their original sex before intercourse.
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