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Thread: Spring Cutters Crew Vol 36: Beer Guts to Beer Cuts

post 1510981261 07-07-2017, 05:53 AM
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Been toying with some low volume recently.

Used to do RPT but got tired of it
Went to a pretty high volume program for a year and a half


But now I'm focusing on progressing with one set per exercise, and about 10 exercises per session.

It works well because every set it taken to failure or near failure, but I hit a lot of different exercises so the pump is real.

Weights are heavy as possible in the 8-12 rep range

When I can't progress doing one set, say a couple weeks where I hit the same reps....ill add a second set. Then when that maxes out, train more frequently (currently 3x a week)...when that maxes out, add a 4th session and reorganize.


It's a short session but intense...enjoyable as heck and gives me plenty of rest since work kicks my ass during the summer.
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Originally Posted By Dan_Staat⏩
Been toying with some low volume recently.

Used to do RPT but got tired of it
Went to a pretty high volume program for a year and a half


But now I'm focusing on progressing with one set per exercise, and about 10 exercises per session.

It works well because every set it taken to failure or near failure, but I hit a lot of different exercises so the pump is real.

Weights are heavy as possible in the 8-12 rep range

When I can't progress doing one set, say a couple weeks where I hit the same reps....ill add a second set. Then when that maxes out, train more frequently (currently 3x a week)...when that maxes out, add a 4th session and reorganize.


It's a short session but intense...enjoyable as heck and gives me plenty of rest since work kicks my ass during the summer.
Kinda the same principle as Dorian Yates HIT training. Instead of wasting energy with 4-5 sets of crap, you warm up, and go completely balls deep for 1 max sex. It works really well.

I ran Yates routine awhile back when I was drinking orange juice and it is no joke. You need a serious training partner however to get the most out of it. Doing it alone will not yield the same results because you cannot push past failure without having that spotter assist for the last 2-3 reps.
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post 1510997241 07-07-2017, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By mh22⏩
Ive been on dat dere fishnbrah diet - protein and beer. Cutting on ez mode srs
Das not it.


Where are the apple fritters?
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Kinda the same principle as Dorian Yates HIT training. Instead of wasting energy with 4-5 sets of crap, you warm up, and go completely balls deep for 1 max sex. It works really well.

....
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Kinda the same principle as Dorian Yates HIT training. Instead of wasting energy with 4-5 sets of crap, you warm up, and... go completely balls deep for 1 max sex..... It works really well.

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She approached with her hand extended,. I slowly stepped back. "No" she said. "I just want to shake your hand. You're amazingly gorgeous." As she walked by me she copped a biceps feel.


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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Kinda the same principle as Dorian Yates HIT training. Instead of wasting energy with 4-5 sets of crap, you warm up, and go completely balls deep for 1 max sex. It works really well.

I ran Yates routine awhile back when I was drinking orange juice and it is no joke. You need a serious training partner however to get the most out of it. Doing it alone will not yield the same results because you cannot push past failure without having that spotter assist for the last 2-3 reps.
There is something to be said about changing it up though too. There was a time when I couldn't progress because I lacked the volume necessary and it took me a long time to figure that out. I had done HIT type of training for a while before that.

The only thing I don't like about HIT type of training is that it's more likely to cause injury, especially for us older farts. I will do pause sets a lot, but I don't do rest pauses often.

And yes, Mike was really the first one to really incorporate and push HIT. Near the end of his career, that's all he did.
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Originally Posted By deltpecx⏩
But who was Mike Mentzer?
Truth. A lot of articles of Mentzer vs. Yates style I've read. Both legends in my book and I learned a lot from both.
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
There is something to be said about changing it up though too. There was a time when I couldn't progress because I lacked the volume necessary and it took me a long time to figure that out. I had done HIT type of training for a while before that.

The only thing I don't like about HIT type of training is that it's more likely to cause injury, especially for us older farts. I will do pause sets a lot, but I don't do rest pauses often.

And yes, Mike was really the first one to really incorporate and push HIT. Near the end of his career, that's all he did.
I do not disagree with anything you said. Two biggest reason why HIT, in my opinion, were the exact two things you said. Lack of volume + chance of injury. To go with your point, changing up to a HIT workout for a 8-10 week cycle is never a bad idea, but I never had a lot of success unless I had a motivating training partner with me. Sucks alone.
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still cutting into the summer. das it mane
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13 days completed so far for me, averaged about 1600 kcals this week so far. Strength has gone up since starting cut. Will do about 20 more days.

So far I'm finding it really easy to stick to my diet. I have no idea why. I'm eating 90% clean and micronutrient rich food maybe that's it. Also stopped watching porn 3 weeks ago and that's a harder habit to kick for me than not eating like **** so maybe cutting just pales in comparison idk. I watched a video about how excessive porn usage over time affects the area of your brain that determines your willpower negatively so fixing that would make not binging easier.
Originally Posted By Dan_Staat⏩
Been toying with some low volume recently.

Used to do RPT but got tired of it
Went to a pretty high volume program for a year and a half


But now I'm focusing on progressing with one set per exercise, and about 10 exercises per session.

It works well because every set it taken to failure or near failure, but I hit a lot of different exercises so the pump is real.

Weights are heavy as possible in the 8-12 rep range

When I can't progress doing one set, say a couple weeks where I hit the same reps....ill add a second set. Then when that maxes out, train more frequently (currently 3x a week)...when that maxes out, add a 4th session and reorganize.


It's a short session but intense...enjoyable as heck and gives me plenty of rest since work kicks my ass during the summer.
Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Kinda the same principle as Dorian Yates HIT training. Instead of wasting energy with 4-5 sets of crap, you warm up, and go completely balls deep for 1 max sex. It works really well.

I ran Yates routine awhile back when I was drinking orange juice and it is no joke. You need a serious training partner however to get the most out of it. Doing it alone will not yield the same results because you cannot push past failure without having that spotter assist for the last 2-3 reps.
RPT for life crew. Sub-optimal or not it's been my fav way to train for a while. To make it worthwhile, you have to push until failure (and by failure I mean form breakdown as to not compromise for injury).
post 1511006241 07-07-2017, 10:19 AM
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i've found i like spending most of my time training at very sub max intensity. keeping most sets in the rpe 5-8 range and just accumulating volume.
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post 1511006351 07-07-2017, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By BabyOilBrah⏩
RPT for life crew. Sub-optimal or not it's been my fav way to train for a while. To make it worthwhile, you have to push until failure (and by failure I mean form breakdown as to not compromise for injury).
I just prefer more volume, but i started limiting the exercises I did. Just trying to move on and hit some different bases for a while. Being 24, theres plenty of time to grow...and I should grow while its easier.
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Plateaued again. I was at 1500 last week, I don't think I lost anything. Don't really want to drop more tbh. Went back up to 1600 this week (I was in Malta last weekend and relaxed, so had a bit of water to drop). Is it worth reversing? Can anyone advise anything? I am counting accurately btw. Was dropping fat steadily and then stopped. I don't think my body wants to become twink like
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Originally Posted By Melis689⏩
Plateaued again. I was at 1500 last week, I don't think I lost anything. Don't really want to drop more tbh. Went back up to 1600 this week (I was in Malta last weekend and relaxed, so had a bit of water to drop). Is it worth reversing? Can anyone advise anything? I am counting accurately btw. Was dropping fat steadily and then stopped. I don't think my body wants to become twink like
Depends on how low you currently are. It might not be out of the question for a female to get as low as 1200-1300 calories to get pretty lean, but that depends on how low you currently are, how much cardio you're doing etc.

What do your macros look like? Sometimes it's also a matter of just manipulating macros
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Depends on how low you currently are. It might not be out of the question for a female to get as low as 1200-1300 calories to get pretty lean, but that depends on how low you currently are, how much cardio you're doing etc.

What do your macros look like? Sometimes it's also a matter of just manipulating macros
Maybe you're right. The thought of dropping that low is..ughhhh. But I'll probably do it if needs be maybe a few weeks before my next hol. Macros I get around 130g protein, probably 60-70g fat (I could probably up this), and carbs I'm not even that sure. I've been trying to focus on getting more fat in lately, so maybe I could tweak that. I'm not sure what bf percentage I'm at now tbh, I just go by the mirror.
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Originally Posted By Melis689⏩
Maybe you're right. The thought of dropping that low is..ughhhh. But I'll probably do it if needs be maybe a few weeks before my next hol. Macros I get around 130g protein, probably 60-70g fat (I could probably up this), and carbs I'm not even that sure. I've been trying to focus on getting more fat in lately, so maybe I could tweak that. I'm not sure what bf percentage I'm at now tbh, I just go by the mirror.
I'm on the opposite spectrum and I take in low fat, and a lot more carbs. How long have you been low calorie? I've seen a lot advising a 1-2 week period of maintenance after an extended time on calorie restriction. Do you have refeeds during the week at all?
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Originally Posted By Melis689⏩
Maybe you're right. The thought of dropping that low is..ughhhh. But I'll probably do it if needs be maybe a few weeks before my next hol. Macros I get around 130g protein, probably 60-70g fat (I could probably up this), and carbs I'm not even that sure. I've been trying to focus on getting more fat in lately, so maybe I could tweak that. I'm not sure what bf percentage I'm at now tbh, I just go by the mirror.
It sounds like you're right on track. Other than nailing down your carb intake, your protein and fat intake seems pretty good there.


One thing I like to do at certain points of a diet is to start carb cycling. This allows me to manage my fat and carbs a little better, as well as allowing me to drop a little water. Dropping some water weight really helps with motivation and might get you the look you want without having to decrease calories or drop any more body fat.

On non-weightlifting days, I will try to not go over 20% of my total calories in carbohydrates. On training days, I will hit about 40%.

Just some ideas might want to try before dropping your calories. Not sure where you are compared to the pictures in your profile, but without going full white knight, you look pretty amazing already. You have been blessed with a small waist.

Good luck and let us know how things go over the next couple weeks
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
It sounds like you're right on track. Other than nailing down your carb intake, your protein and fat intake seems pretty good there.


One thing I like to do at certain points of a diet is to start carb cycling. This allows me to manage my fat and carbs a little better, as well as allowing me to drop a little water. Dropping some water weight really helps with motivation and might get you the look you want without having to decrease calories or drop any more body fat.

On non-weightlifting days, I will try to not go over 20% of my total calories in carbohydrates. On training days, I will hit about 40%.

Just some ideas might want to try before dropping your calories. Not sure where you are compared to the pictures in your profile, but without going full white knight, you look pretty amazing already. You have been blessed with a small waist.

Good luck and let us know how things go over the next couple weeks
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[QUOTE=Melis689 post_id=1511026771]Means a lot, srs. Thank you. Well this is my current state



[img]https://i.imgur.com/uw9quTP.jpg[/img

It's mainly my abs I'm wanting to improve. Ideally I'd like Michelle Lewins lol, but that'll take some work. In for the challenge though[/QUOTE]I follow Michelle on IG too. lol Yeah, she looks pretty incredible. Great combination of fitness without sacrificing any feminine qualities.

You aren't far from getting those abs back, for sure.

BTW, my IG is sprnutrition, if anyone is interested in following me. I am always looking for more fitness folks to follow as well. I have also picked up my nutrition business again for some side work to do if you know of anyone that is interested. Having followers on IG really helps with the business too.
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Originally Posted By Melis689⏩
Plateaued again. I was at 1500 last week, I don't think I lost anything. Don't really want to drop more tbh. Went back up to 1600 this week (I was in Malta last weekend and relaxed, so had a bit of water to drop). Is it worth reversing? Can anyone advise anything? I am counting accurately btw. Was dropping fat steadily and then stopped. I don't think my body wants to become twink like
Originally Posted By Melis689⏩
Maybe you're right. The thought of dropping that low is..ughhhh. But I'll probably do it if needs be maybe a few weeks before my next hol. Macros I get around 130g protein, probably 60-70g fat (I could probably up this), and carbs I'm not even that sure. I've been trying to focus on getting more fat in lately, so maybe I could tweak that. I'm not sure what bf percentage I'm at now tbh, I just go by the mirror.
Stay at 1500-1600 for another week, I've had times when cutting I lose nothing for a week and a half then suddenly lose 2+ lbs the next week. If you truly have plateaued only option is to drop calories a bit more but 1500 should still be cutting territory for someone active.

Edit: checked out Michelle she looks good on stage but does she walk around with abs like that? Most people prep and flex for shoots.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
I follow Michelle on IG too. lol Yeah, she looks pretty incredible. Great combination of fitness without sacrificing any feminine qualities.

You aren't far from getting those abs back, for sure.
Me too, I look at her IG daily haha I actually prefer her off season tbh. But she can pull off being super ripped
Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
Stay at 1500-1600 for another week, I've had times when cutting I lose nothing for a week and a half then suddenly lose 2+ lbs the next week. If you truly have plateaued only option is to drop calories a bit more but 1500 should still be cutting territory for someone active.
Ok will do.. got you on spread as per
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Just about time for the weekend boys and girls. Everyone enjoy, and hopefully we don't come back Monday morning bloated hating ourselves
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Just about time for the weekend boys and girls. Everyone enjoy, and hopefully we don't come back Monday morning bloated hating ourselves
Have a good one
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Just about time for the weekend boys and girls. Everyone enjoy, and hopefully we don't come back Monday morning bloated hating ourselves
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Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
Stay at 1500-1600 for another week, I've had times when cutting I lose nothing for a week and a half then suddenly lose 2+ lbs the next week. If you truly have plateaued only option is to drop calories a bit more but 1500 should still be cutting territory for someone active.
That seems to be me this week. Averaged very low caloric intake the last 7 days or so, geting leaner in the mirror. Today I lifted and walked around for about 9 hours at work, at 1600 kcals only. Currently feeling bloated af, stomach feels all watery. Probably because of cortisol.

It'll come off eventually in a whoosh. For me weight loss on the scale seems to be pretty sporadic and not linear.
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A new study just confirmed that HIIT method of cardio training has the same exact effects as moderate and low intensity cardio, while doing it in much less time. I mean, everything, from fat burning to cardiac health to pulmonary.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0154075
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
A new study just confirmed that HIIT method of cardio training has the same exact effects as moderate and low intensity cardio, while doing it in much less time. I mean, everything, from fat burning to cardiac health to pulmonary.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0154075
If I ever decide doing cardio again, HIIT it is
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Morning SCC,

Putting in some hours today to finish up moving my office and a few shop things and should be back to regular work in a few days.

Anyone have any kick ass plans for this weekend?
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Originally Posted By weightsb4dates⏩
Morning SCC,

Putting in some hours today to finish up moving my office and a few shop things and should be back to regular work in a few days.

Anyone have any kick ass plans for this weekend?
Weighed in at a new low of 178.2 this morning after hovering around 180-181 for four weeks.

Going to hit a push session today and start building the chairs I've been trying to make for a year. I'm seriously starting today. For real. I just need to start by moving a bunch of plywood by myself, which sucks.

Picks of chair I am copying:

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post 1511095251 07-08-2017, 06:41 AM
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back, bis and abs this am to get a nice pump before going to the beach and drinking away any progress made this week
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post 1511099561 07-08-2017, 08:22 AM
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Got plans of front squatting and back squats I dont like em
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Did legs this morning. RIP.

I was talking to my mate who's a PT about my plateau frustrations. He suggested upping my cals by about 200 for a week to see if it helps to push me back out of it. He also suggested 2 higher days 2 moderate, and 1 low. Gonna give one of these a go to see if it helps
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post 1511100131 07-08-2017, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Melis689⏩
Did legs this morning. RIP.

I was talking to my mate who's a PT about my plateau frustrations. He suggested upping my cals by about 200 for a week to see if it helps to push me back out of it. He also suggested 2 higher days 2 moderate, and 1 low. Gonna give one of these a go to see if it helps
The 2-2-1 is talking about calories? How often do you work out? What's your goal weight and how fat are you away now?
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