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Curious to see how you bros feel on this moment.
This stopped being a statue removal protest the moment nazi paraphernalia came out. Of course antifa are gonna come out to this rally and create unrest ...flies are attracted to chit.
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08-12-2017, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Qong⏩
"Whitewashing" history, I though the Union won? Isn't it still in history books? Did you know them personally? It just seems like the white supremasist got pissed they don't have their idols proudly erect for the world to see. You still got museums & history books.This is in an area that's extremely leftist. They voted 80% for Clinton. There's a major university there. They aren't just moving it to a museum. They are making a statement and whitewashing history.
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08-12-2017, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By atomicbbgum⏩
It is absolutely whitewashing. It doesn't matter who won."Whitewashing" history, I though the Union won? Isn't it still in history books? Did you know them personally? It just seems like the white supremasist got pissed they don't have their idols proudly erect for the world to see. You still got museums & history books.
These people are trying to remove and discredit one of the greatest Americans in our history. Continuing down this path they will undoubtedly, no doubt about it, change the history books themselves. You can already see this happening. These days kids are taught so many negative things, from negative views on Columbus to negative views on the Founding Fathers. It's pure censorship. It isn't evenhanded. It isn't a fair telling of history.
As I said earlier in the thread, show both sides of Lee. Did he fight for the confederacy? Yes he did. On that same hand he was also fighting for his state, his family and his friends. Why is the focus solely on that he was fighting for the confederacy? How about we show both sides, the reality, instead of focusing on demonizing the guy.
08-12-2017, 12:42 PM
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08-12-2017, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Qong⏩
I understand where you're coming from, but the thing is I'm not arguing that he was human and had a good/bad side, it would be stupid to think that they only had one side and that was it. But why should he have a statue if he was in the Cofederate side? They were the traitors and losers of the civil war, should we just put statues of all the losers from a the wars we fought?It is absolutely whitewashing. It doesn't matter who won.
These people are trying to remove and discredit one of the greatest Americans in our history. Continuing down this path they will undoubtedly, no doubt about it, change the history books themselves. You can already see this happening. These days kids are taught so many negative things, from negative views on Columbus to negative views on the Founding Fathers. It's pure censorship. It isn't evenhanded. It isn't a fair telling of history.
As I said earlier in the thread, show both sides of Lee. Did he fight for the confederacy? Yes he did. On that same hand he was also fighting for his state, his family and his friends. Why is the focus solely on that he was fighting for the confederacy? How about we show both sides, the reality, instead of focusing on demonizing the guy.
These people are trying to remove and discredit one of the greatest Americans in our history. Continuing down this path they will undoubtedly, no doubt about it, change the history books themselves. You can already see this happening. These days kids are taught so many negative things, from negative views on Columbus to negative views on the Founding Fathers. It's pure censorship. It isn't evenhanded. It isn't a fair telling of history.
As I said earlier in the thread, show both sides of Lee. Did he fight for the confederacy? Yes he did. On that same hand he was also fighting for his state, his family and his friends. Why is the focus solely on that he was fighting for the confederacy? How about we show both sides, the reality, instead of focusing on demonizing the guy.
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08-12-2017, 12:44 PM
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The person driving the car into the crowd is an equivalent act of terror as when it happened in London.
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Originally Posted By bongowongo⏩

Curious to see how you bros feel on this moment.
This stopped being a statue removal protest the moment nazi paraphernalia came out. Of course antifa are gonna come out to this rally and create unrest ...flies are attracted to chit.
Comparing Saddam to Robert E. Lee. You're better than this op
Curious to see how you bros feel on this moment.
This stopped being a statue removal protest the moment nazi paraphernalia came out. Of course antifa are gonna come out to this rally and create unrest ...flies are attracted to chit.
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08-12-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By atomicbbgum⏩
Because it was a CIVIL war. Not a foreign war. A large amount of Americans died on both sides. It's about remembering them.I understand where you're coming from, but the thing is I'm not arguing that he was human and had a good/bad side, it would be stupid to think that they only had one side and that was it. But why should he have a statue if he was in the Cofederate side? They were the traitors and losers of the civil war, should we just put statues of all the losers from a the wars we fought?
08-12-2017, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17⏩
idk man both enslaved peopleComparing Saddam to Robert E. Lee. You're better than this op
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08-12-2017, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By atomicbbgum⏩
Personally I like and respect Lee because he was a great leader. He does seem to have been a good man overall. I've read a biography of him and he did plenty of good things. Even if you are completely against everything that he did during the war, which is a reasonable stance and shows your own loyalty, he did plenty of good things outside of that.I understand where you're coming from, but the thing is I'm not arguing that he was human and had a good/bad side, it would be stupid to think that they only had one side and that was it. But why should he have a statue if he was in the Cofederate side? They were the traitors and losers of the civil war, should we just put statues of all the losers from a the wars we fought?
The same idea applies to the other people that I mentioned. Slavery is and was terrible. No doubt about it. But that doesn't take anything from the fact that say the Founding Fathers were great people with great ideas. Is slavery bad? Yeah. Did Jefferson own slaves? Yeah. Did Jefferson play an integral role in expanding our country and making it great? Yeah. All of those things can be true. There's no reason to focus solely on the bad parts and ignore and discredit the good parts, and vice versa of course.
History should be about reality. It should show the good. It should show the bad. It should show everything. There's no reason to whitewash it. Good people can do bad things. Bad people can do good things. There's no reason to deny that reality. Lee did plenty of good and bad. He was one of the greatest military leaders in American history, that alone warrants respect and honors in my view.
08-12-2017, 01:06 PM
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08-12-2017, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By rts213⏩
Lmao, explain your logic to meThis is the Trump effect
Breeds all kinds of racism and hateful mentality in people
Breeds all kinds of racism and hateful mentality in people
They got the driver, police custody
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08-12-2017, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Qong⏩
I agree with you, to be honest I don't really care if they take/leave the statue, I'm just curious of why people feel/act the way the do when things like this happen, history should't be white washed, it should just be told from both sides, raw and without sugar coating it.Personally I like and respect Lee because he was a great leader. He does seem to have been a good man overall. I've read a biography of him and he did plenty of good things. Even if you are completely against everything that he did during the war, which is a reasonable stance and shows your own loyalty, he did plenty of good things outside of that.
The same idea applies to the other people that I mentioned. Slavery is and was terrible. No doubt about it. But that doesn't take anything from the fact that say the Founding Fathers were great people with great ideas. Is slavery bad? Yeah. Did Jefferson own slaves? Yeah. Did Jefferson play an integral role in expanding our country and making it great? Yeah. All of those things can be true. There's no reason to focus solely on the bad parts and ignore and discredit the good parts, and vice versa of course.
History should be about reality. It should show the good. It should show the bad. It should show everything. There's no reason to whitewash it. Good people can do bad things. Bad people can do good things. There's no reason to deny that reality. Lee did plenty of good and bad. He was one of the greatest military leaders in American history, that alone warrants respect and honors in my view.
The same idea applies to the other people that I mentioned. Slavery is and was terrible. No doubt about it. But that doesn't take anything from the fact that say the Founding Fathers were great people with great ideas. Is slavery bad? Yeah. Did Jefferson own slaves? Yeah. Did Jefferson play an integral role in expanding our country and making it great? Yeah. All of those things can be true. There's no reason to focus solely on the bad parts and ignore and discredit the good parts, and vice versa of course.
History should be about reality. It should show the good. It should show the bad. It should show everything. There's no reason to whitewash it. Good people can do bad things. Bad people can do good things. There's no reason to deny that reality. Lee did plenty of good and bad. He was one of the greatest military leaders in American history, that alone warrants respect and honors in my view.
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08-12-2017, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By cromofo⏩
The Misc would fit right in.
One of the things is not like the other...
The Misc would fit right in.
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08-12-2017, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By atomicbbgum⏩
Those pesky libtardsOne of the things is not like the other...

Talk about being a traitor of your own country.
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08-12-2017, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By cromofo⏩
Hmm yes, I can see their supreme geneticsThose pesky libtards


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08-12-2017, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted By rts213⏩
like keeping illegal immigrants out?Increasing white supremacy and related sentiment from Trump's rhetoric and actions
Only a moron can't see that
Only a moron can't see that
Need more details on trumps actions and how they directly caused this
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So theyre mad because its being moved to a museum?
mu·se·um
myo͞oˈzēəm/
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a building in which objects of historical, scientific, artistic, or cultural interest are stored and EXHIBITED.
Please tell me how this is whitewash.
mu·se·um
myo͞oˈzēəm/
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a building in which objects of historical, scientific, artistic, or cultural interest are stored and EXHIBITED.
Please tell me how this is whitewash.
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Originally Posted By FrazettaSilke⏩
trash and fukc the Confederacy they lost, also remember them for what? what good or noble cause were they trying to accomplish? bunch of participation trophies in this threadBecause it was a CIVIL war. Not a foreign war. A large amount of Americans died on both sides. It's about remembering them.
what's next we gonna give the kid who couldn't finish the race a trophy to just for trying?
delusional. nothing good came out of the Confederacy so dead everything about it
Originally Posted By Qong⏩
-how is it whitewashing when history literally evolves around white society?History should be about reality. It should show the good. It should show the bad. It should show everything. There's no reason to whitewash it. Good people can do bad things. Bad people can do good things. There's no reason to deny that reality. Lee did plenty of good and bad. He was one of the greatest military leaders in American history, that alone warrants respect and honors in my view.
-you say that but we have poeple back tracking and trying to change history iirc did the texas board of education try to say slaves were just indentured servant who were immigrant
-yes we have to take the good with the bad but people only do that if it fits their narrative
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Lol. And people wonder why no real problems get solved.
Maybe we should tackle this one after the economy is fixed, the inner cities are cleaned up, health care is reformed, you know, the actual issues. If these morons (on both sides) spent this energy, time and money helping their community the world would be a little better. I might even listen to their opinions. Or they could just waste it all like this.
Maybe we should tackle this one after the economy is fixed, the inner cities are cleaned up, health care is reformed, you know, the actual issues. If these morons (on both sides) spent this energy, time and money helping their community the world would be a little better. I might even listen to their opinions. Or they could just waste it all like this.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
A divided country is a more manageble country, just gotta appeal to the right people to get crazy things done.Lol. And people wonder why no real problems get solved.
Maybe we should tackle this one after the economy is fixed, the inner cities are cleaned up, health care is reformed, you know, the actual issues. If these morons (on both sides) spent this energy, time and money helping their community the world would be a little better. I might even listen to their opinions. Or they could just waste it all like this.
Maybe we should tackle this one after the economy is fixed, the inner cities are cleaned up, health care is reformed, you know, the actual issues. If these morons (on both sides) spent this energy, time and money helping their community the world would be a little better. I might even listen to their opinions. Or they could just waste it all like this.
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Originally Posted By BeastModeFTW⏩
Almost right after it happened "all lives matter" appears in the chat box.
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