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post 1519201091 09-12-2017, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By vsportsguy⏩
I'm with you but if there's one thing I've learned about people is you can't ask them to not eat a certain food. It benefits the individual, benefits animals, benefits the environment, but they think they will miss out on too many pleasures in life. So live and let live. 95% of people have one thing on their mind when they eat: what will taste good to me right now? Unfortunate, but that's the reality.
True. Hopefully though, as demand grows and prices decrease, more people will be willing to try them and see that they really arent missing on anything
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post 1519201361 09-12-2017, 01:53 PM
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post 1519201571 09-12-2017, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By xam1996⏩
Absolutely agree. But I dont think this is ever going to happen honestly. We just need more people to realize that vegan food can be just as good as the real thing. Once there will be enough demand, prices will start to drop and even more people will try them
True that brah there's a Gardein Veggie Burger I buy that tastes absolutely amazing, their chicken patties are pretty good too.

Also Silk Chocolate Cashew milk tastes insanely good, way better than any other chocolate milk including dairy.
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It's bad but its not going to put me off drinking milk, look at supersize me, still to this day that did nothing after seeing how disgusting mcdonalds is and people STILL go there.
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
True that brah there's a Gardein Veggie Burger I buy that tastes absolutely amazing, their chicken patties are pretty good too.

Also Silk Chocolate Cashew milk tastes insanely good, way better than any other chocolate milk including dairy.
Yeah I heard gardein is the GOAT when it comes to fake meat. Going to try them next summer when Ill be in the US
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post 1519202751 09-12-2017, 02:04 PM
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I drink milk everyday, u mad?
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Originally Posted By xam1996⏩
but the vast majority of imitations can be just as good as the real product, both macros and taste wise. There are many delicious vegan burgers, nuggets, milk, cheese etc. but people just refuse to eat them because theyre not the real thing. If there were more demand for these products theyd be way cheaper aswell
The EFF there is.

Sister when vegetarian several years ago - while some products might taste OK, they don't come anywhere close to tasting as good as real beef or real milk.

Not only that - I limit the amount of ingredients in the food I eat. My milk label is going to read: "Ingredients: milk" not 5-10 ingredients, half of which I don't know what they are in almond milk. I get mine raw too. NOTHING tastes anywhere hear as good as raw milk.

I'm also not taking a chance when so many of vegetarian options contain soy.
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Now I want a tbone steak or some veal parm. Mmm
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
The EFF there is.

Sister when vegetarian several years ago - while some products might taste OK, they don't come anywhere close to tasting as good as real beef or real milk.

Not only that - I limit the amount of ingredients in the food I eat. My milk label is going to read: "Ingredients: milk" not 5-10 ingredients, half of which I don't know what they are in almond milk. I get mine raw too. NOTHING tastes anywhere hear as good as raw milk.

I'm also not taking a chance when so many of vegetarian options contain soy.
I dont know Ive never been a fan of milk. I started making my own oat milk though and it tastes amazing. You just gotta blend some oats with water (after letting it soak for like 2 hours), add a bit of sugar and salt to taste and thats literally it. Cheap and tastes better than the real thing. As for beef I also disagree. You cant get a vegan steak but vegan burgers can be REALLY close to the real thing, you live in the US you have thousands of options. Just because one brand might've been just "OK", doesnt mean there arent better alternatives. I heard the impossible burger is very good, and as already said earlier, for other type of meats/fish imitations, Gardein is the best out there. Try it and I guarantee you wont be disappointed. Also whats all this fuss about soy? Its harmless unless you literally only eat soy every day
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i've spent over 20,000 hours on a dairy and op is just a whiny little bytch

vegans are the lowest pile of homos on the planet

if you knew the massive regulations and ag checks these places have to go though you would be screaming for less laws.


they are just stupid soulless animals. if they were to roam free they would all be dead in 2 weeks.


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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
The EFF there is.

Sister when vegetarian several years ago - while some products might taste OK, they don't come anywhere close to tasting as good as real beef or real milk.

Not only that - I limit the amount of ingredients in the food I eat. My milk label is going to read: "Ingredients: milk" not 5-10 ingredients, half of which I don't know what they are in almond milk. I get mine raw too. NOTHING tastes anywhere hear as good as raw milk.

I'm also not taking a chance when so many of vegetarian options contain soy.
ENDLESS amounts of science shows soy has zero effect on hormone levels. Dairy on the other hand?https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976

Don't be misinformed.
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Originally Posted By bigdogfarmhand⏩
i've spent over 20,000 hours on a dairy and op is just a whiny little bytch

vegans are the lowest pile of homos on the planet

if you knew the massive regulations and ag checks these places have to go though you would be screaming for less laws.


they are just stupid soulless animals. if they were to roam free they would all be dead in 2 weeks.


go cry
Good for you, you've spent 20000 hours exploiting animals for the sake of providing a food that is not needed whatsoever for human nutrition.

Vegans are actually the ones advocating to reduce the main source of pollution on the planet, you, are the one who is the lowest scum on the planet.

Somehow I doubt you'd use the "stupid soulless animals" nonsense if it was dogs we were doing this to. You're a speciesist and you don't even know it.

Oh, and you're the one coming into my thread and crying btw.
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Thing is when we start transferring human thoughts and emotions onto animals it opens the door for too much BS.

Fact is animals our here for our consumption, not to be one big happy family where we hang out with cows and chickens and **** like that.
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Originally Posted By EdmundGTP⏩
All these "horrors" of the industry are the cost of keeping numerous degrees of separation between the general masses and the root origin of what they consume on a daily basis. 99/100 people aren't willing or prepared to take a blade to a cow's throat to get the steak that they love. It's a "luxury" of modern society, and in many cases a necessity when you have 300 million people that want to eat the food they like, while paying as little as possible for it. Assembly-line supply chain optimization works.. It's just not as "pretty" when the end product is derived from living things.. Until a majority of consumers are willing to spend 3X as much for meat that came from pigs and cows that were raised at animal luxury resorts, things will largely remain the same.
Maybe this correlates with depression as well.
-> You become truly humble and grateful when eating food hunted in the wild. The mental shift is big. Compared to just buying from grocery stores.
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but 100% serious fellas.

these dairy cows have a better life then any one on this forum.

dairy cows alive a modonna style life compared to most farm animals or humans

they are super pampered
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Originally Posted By xam1996⏩
I dont know Ive never been a fan of milk. I started making my own oat milk though and it tastes amazing. You just gotta blend some oats with water (after letting it soak for like 2 hours), add a bit of sugar and salt to taste and thats literally it. Cheap and tastes better than the real thing. As for beef I also disagree. You cant get a vegan steak but vegan burgers can be REALLY close to the real thing, you live in the US you have thousands of options. Just because one brand might've been just "OK", doesnt mean there arent better alternatives. I heard the impossible burger is very good, and as already said earlier, for other type of meats/fish imitations, Gardein is the best out there. Try it and I guarantee you wont be disappointed. Also whats all this fuss about soy? Its harmless unless you literally only eat soy every day
So you drink oatmeal instead of milk? No thanks - I like milk. A LOT. Nothing compares to it and your version has no protein. As for cost, I pay $6/g for raw milk

Gardein is the stuff my sister gets. Most of it that I have had at her place is inedible.
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Just had some cow in my coffee op
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
ENDLESS amounts of science shows soy has zero effect on hormone levels. Dairy on the other hand?https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976

Don't be misinformed.
I am not concerned with soy's effect on the body as I am on soy's effect on the economy.
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Still eating my cheese and drinking milk you vegan pussy


Edit: I also had beef for dinner, you mad?
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
Good for you, you've spent 20000 hours exploiting animals for the sake of providing a food that is not needed whatsoever for human nutrition.

Vegans are actually the ones advocating to reduce the main source of pollution on the planet, you, are the one who is the lowest scum on the planet.

Somehow I doubt you'd use the "stupid soulless animals" nonsense if it was dogs we were doing this to. You're a speciesist and you don't even know it.

Oh, and you're the one coming into my thread and crying btw.
you say exploit like it's a bad thing
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
you say exploit like it's a bad thing
Bad for human health, bad for the planet, and bad for the cows.
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol⏩
Still eating my cheese and drinking milk you vegan pussy


Edit: I also had beef for dinner, you mad?
Just another uninformed nitwit killing himself via bad diet choices. My message isn't meant for informing morons like you.
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
Bad for human health, bad for the planet, and bad for the cows.
no, debatable, and not my problem
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Thing is when we start transferring human thoughts and emotions onto animals it opens the door for too much BS.

Fact is animals our here for our consumption, not to be one big happy family where we hang out with cows and chickens and **** like that.
99% of people have zero issues whatsoever transferring human thoughts and emotions onto dogs. Not that you even need this factoid to provide a logical argument that exploiting animals for food and pleasure is wrong.

"Fact is animals our here for our consumption" says who?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
no, debatable, and not my problem
There is undeniable evidence for all of the 3. Apathy is not an argument. You have no argument.

Edit: I'm assuming the "not my problem" is the response to the enviornmental damage that dairy production causes? You're right that it's not your problem, as you won't live long enough to see the worst of it, but it is actually effecting the lively hood of some civilizations.
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
Just another uninformed nitwit killing himself via bad diet choices. My message isn't meant for informing morons like you.
Please point me to the peer reviewed study that you are using for your super scientific evidence here?

My great grand parents lived to ripe old ages eating whole foods and red meat regularly. You on the other hand are just regurgitating any old vegan buzzfeed hipster bollocks you happen upon.
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