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09-13-2017, 03:21 AM
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Read somewhere that something like 70 percent of male prisoners in the UK have a diagnosable personality disorder. Most common is anti social pd {sociopath} , then Borderline / and narcasstic. Some others have paranoid pds also. 50 percent of female prisoners have a personality disorder in uk prisons, most common is Borderline then anti social . I myself have a mixed personality disorder,I have 3 pd's borderline/ avoidant and paranoid as well as PTSD . I have also got in trouble with the law and am subjected to a court imposed community treatment order and am supervised by the local mental health team. Means either I attend therapy and take my medication or they put me in a secure hospital. There is debate to this day whether personality disorder is a mental illness, in the old days it wasn't and they tended not to be treated by mental health people in hospitals. But I have been told I have a serious mental illness, and am basically mad not bad. I snapped also if you will. Most of the time Iam totally normal but something will set me off and I will over react and have to take out the threat. I have to always win an argument .
I'd bet in this guys case, the family knew something wasn't right especially his mother {mother always know} .,they either ignored it or they tried to get him help but thanks to how mental health is treated these days in the community he was probably given some anti depressants and maybe was referred to a psychologist. That doesn't work when someone is seriously ill. They need basically to be institutionalised. In the old days that is what would have happened to him most probably. Anti depressants can sometimes make a mental illness worse which is why they need close monitoring. You are basically messing around with the brain and not knowing quite what effect it will have.
I do wonder how they draw the line though, as because of the violence I did {to another man who attacked me in the street}, I nearly ended up in prison myself and the psychiatrist who assessed me said I have a temporary moment of insanity and shouldn't be in prison basically,whereas others would have gone to prison .I basically blacked out, one moment I was walking towards this guy who was shouting abuse at me and making threats to me, next thing I remember is being in a paper suit in a police cell.
Apparently my childhood has caused my brain to not develop as it should have.
I'd bet in this guys case, the family knew something wasn't right especially his mother {mother always know} .,they either ignored it or they tried to get him help but thanks to how mental health is treated these days in the community he was probably given some anti depressants and maybe was referred to a psychologist. That doesn't work when someone is seriously ill. They need basically to be institutionalised. In the old days that is what would have happened to him most probably. Anti depressants can sometimes make a mental illness worse which is why they need close monitoring. You are basically messing around with the brain and not knowing quite what effect it will have.
I do wonder how they draw the line though, as because of the violence I did {to another man who attacked me in the street}, I nearly ended up in prison myself and the psychiatrist who assessed me said I have a temporary moment of insanity and shouldn't be in prison basically,whereas others would have gone to prison .I basically blacked out, one moment I was walking towards this guy who was shouting abuse at me and making threats to me, next thing I remember is being in a paper suit in a police cell.
Apparently my childhood has caused my brain to not develop as it should have.
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09-13-2017, 03:31 AM
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thats weird, responses itt seem to be a lil more tame/less racist than usual
edit: nm, its a white guy. that explains it lol
edit: nm, its a white guy. that explains it lol
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09-13-2017, 03:39 AM
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Are we all gonna ignore the fact he did that all with just a baseball bat? Couldn't they run away or lock themselves in a room, or someone come at him, that's 4 people with 1 bat
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09-13-2017, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted By iabs⏩
Yeah, but they can use the Baseball Show loophole to buy 'em from other Baseball nuts.We all know this could've been prevented if we did a background check and psych eval for everyone who buys a bat.
09-13-2017, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted By hbhorat⏩
Women and elderly unarmed people vs 22 year old in his physical prime with a baseball bat. Possible he did it while they were sleeping.Are we all gonna ignore the fact he did that all with just a baseball bat? Couldn't they run away or lock themselves in a room, or someone come at him, that's 4 people with 1 bat
Additionally, the surprise factor is so great that they probably just froze, unable to do anything. Imagine a close family member suddenly starting to swing at you with a baseball bat. What a nightmare.
09-13-2017, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted By 97Camry4Lyfe⏩
Why is "mental illness" in quotes?So which "mental illness" are we gonna blame this one on?
Mental illness is a real thing dumb 20 year old piece of ****. As is just being plain evil of course.
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09-13-2017, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Brozart⏩
to me the norwegian is the scary oneeliot rogers (aka supreme gentleman), gable tostee (aka balconybrah aka one slice of supreme), icepickbrah, wasn't the norway shooter here as well or sum chit?
maybe i'm adding one in and forgetting a couple...
maybe i'm adding one in and forgetting a couple...
he seems to have been able to brainwash himself
09-13-2017, 05:05 AM
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Mind blown at attitudes ITT. Let's just go ahead and bottom-line it.
a) healthy people don't murder other people - why is this even in contention, wtf
b) anti-depressants relieve depression. the clue is in the name. unless we're on some anti-vax conspiracy chit, let's just go with that they're clinically proven, and mop up with people who know much, much, much more than you prescribe them. Unless you can undermine clinical trials or are smarter than a doctor, not flapping your head is a good place to begin rehabilitation
c) no rehab... maybe so. if your response is to kill that person - murder, let's be real, will you use a baseball bat? - then there's not a lot more to say, let's hope nobody you love ever falls victim to mental illness
a) healthy people don't murder other people - why is this even in contention, wtf
b) anti-depressants relieve depression. the clue is in the name. unless we're on some anti-vax conspiracy chit, let's just go with that they're clinically proven, and mop up with people who know much, much, much more than you prescribe them. Unless you can undermine clinical trials or are smarter than a doctor, not flapping your head is a good place to begin rehabilitation
c) no rehab... maybe so. if your response is to kill that person - murder, let's be real, will you use a baseball bat? - then there's not a lot more to say, let's hope nobody you love ever falls victim to mental illness
09-13-2017, 05:24 AM
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This doesnt get me off but idc if people talk about going er or this. Its why we have forums, otherwise no point.
I always want normies to die en masse. There is too much bull**** suffering in our world and i cant help feeling happy when any event kills people or upsets feelings. If an entire american city got buried in a split second killing over 1 million people, i would laugh until it hurt. Normies dgaf about human life that they arent told to value. All they do is virtue signal. I dont value the lives of people who profit off modern day globalism and put difference prices on other lives.
Anyone who is profiting off the status quo is likely a pos and a hypocrite who has indirectly caused the deaths and suffering of countless others in the 2nd and 3rd world. But lets all cry when our media tells us to.
I think what i want to say is that dont care what is considered acceptable. Dont anyone reply to this. As if anyone could argue against me and not look like a fool.
I always want normies to die en masse. There is too much bull**** suffering in our world and i cant help feeling happy when any event kills people or upsets feelings. If an entire american city got buried in a split second killing over 1 million people, i would laugh until it hurt. Normies dgaf about human life that they arent told to value. All they do is virtue signal. I dont value the lives of people who profit off modern day globalism and put difference prices on other lives.
Anyone who is profiting off the status quo is likely a pos and a hypocrite who has indirectly caused the deaths and suffering of countless others in the 2nd and 3rd world. But lets all cry when our media tells us to.
I think what i want to say is that dont care what is considered acceptable. Dont anyone reply to this. As if anyone could argue against me and not look like a fool.
09-13-2017, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Condyle⏩
lol demonstrably false. they can lessen depression symptoms...at the cost of everything elseMind blown at attitudes ITT. Let's just go ahead and bottom-line it.
b) anti-depressants relieve depression. the clue is in the name. unless we're on some anti-vax conspiracy chit, let's just go with that they're clinically proven, and mop up with people who know much, much, much more than you prescribe them. Unless you can undermine clinical trials or are smarter than a doctor, not flapping your head is a good place to begin rehabilitation
b) anti-depressants relieve depression. the clue is in the name. unless we're on some anti-vax conspiracy chit, let's just go with that they're clinically proven, and mop up with people who know much, much, much more than you prescribe them. Unless you can undermine clinical trials or are smarter than a doctor, not flapping your head is a good place to begin rehabilitation
09-13-2017, 05:59 AM
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09-13-2017, 06:27 AM
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09-13-2017, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted By ashketchup963⏩
Wanting him dead, burning in hell, tortured, parents able to beat him to death, yeah all tame answers.thats weird, responses itt seem to be a lil more tame/less racist than usual
edit: nm, its a white guy. that explains it lol
edit: nm, its a white guy. that explains it lol
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09-13-2017, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Condyle⏩
what makes you say that?Mind blown at attitudes ITT. Let's just go ahead and bottom-line it.
a) healthy people don't murder other people - why is this even in contention, wtf
a) healthy people don't murder other people - why is this even in contention, wtf
I am pretty sure if laws and karma did not exist, a lot of healthy people would be doing that.
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09-13-2017, 06:48 AM
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I don't know why I got negged so many times for telling the truth, we all know if he had have been black, arab or asian there would have been racist responses- you know I'm right.
09-13-2017, 12:00 PM
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also don't know why people get ruffled when mental illness is brought up. sick =/= insane. the defense is going to have a doozy trying to prove that he had no capacity of understanding what he did
09-13-2017, 12:04 PM
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Bet he was on SSRIS
09-13-2017, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
Sure, they "can."lol demonstrably false. they can lessen depression symptoms...at the cost of everything else
But the decade(s) of research into them suggest that for the vast majority of users the benefits outweigh the cons.
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This and that lady who shot the homeless dude
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
the chemical imbalance theory of depression is a myth. meds are useful for abnormal psych where they are the difference between zombie and jeffrey dahmerSure, they "can."
But the decade(s) of research into them suggest that for the vast majority of users the benefits outweigh the cons.
But the decade(s) of research into them suggest that for the vast majority of users the benefits outweigh the cons.
09-13-2017, 01:26 PM
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I see the face and the chitty hair and right off the bat (no pun intended) I can see this guy has some serious disorder. Fuking kunt.
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Originally Posted By Murk
**** SSRI'sJeez... I'd be very curious to see if he was on or started on any SSRI's recently.
i was prescribed one earlier this year 2 days in i got serotonin syndrome look it up. was not good potential death paramedics had to come get me i couldnt control any movement in my body
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09-13-2017, 02:12 PM
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^Serotonin syndrome is a rare complication .. usually occurs if there is interaction between two similar medicines. Its a known risk with such medicines but not very common.
SSRIs have been linked to more increased suicidal ideation is children and adolescents.There is no direct causal link between using SSRIs and end up comitting suicide. However vulnerable patients can become more energetic and prone to acting on their impulses. The already present suicidal ideation and new impulsiveness should be identified and appropriate changes made. The medicines are very effective for the vast majority and their risk profile is much lower than previously used drugs.
Everyone should discuss their concerns with their doctors to better understand their disease and the treatment they might get. Don't refuse treatment just because of rumours on the internet.
SSRIs have been linked to more increased suicidal ideation is children and adolescents.There is no direct causal link between using SSRIs and end up comitting suicide. However vulnerable patients can become more energetic and prone to acting on their impulses. The already present suicidal ideation and new impulsiveness should be identified and appropriate changes made. The medicines are very effective for the vast majority and their risk profile is much lower than previously used drugs.
Everyone should discuss their concerns with their doctors to better understand their disease and the treatment they might get. Don't refuse treatment just because of rumours on the internet.
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Originally Posted By jmurat⏩
i'm not saying they dont work but what happened to me i'd never get on one again. Serotonin syndrome is no joke and was not fun at all was rushed to the hospital. If you are prescribed one and start getting horrible tremors to basically parkinson stage and worse yeah get help. I was not informed of that and luckily my father is a doctor and was telling him what was going on (while barely being able to hold my phone) said "Get to the hospital now"^Serotonin syndrome is a rare complication .. usually occurs if there is interaction between two similar medicines. Its a known risk with such medicines but not very common.
SSRIs have been linked to more increased suicidal ideation is children and adolescents.There is no direct causal link between using SSRIs and end up comitting suicide. However vulnerable patients can become more energetic and prone to acting on their impulses. The already present suicidal ideation and new impulsiveness should be identified and appropriate changes made. The medicines are very effective for the vast majority and their risk profile is much lower than previously used drugs.
Everyone should discuss their concerns with their doctors to better understand their disease and the treatment they might get. Don't refuse treatment just because of rumours on the internet.
SSRIs have been linked to more increased suicidal ideation is children and adolescents.There is no direct causal link between using SSRIs and end up comitting suicide. However vulnerable patients can become more energetic and prone to acting on their impulses. The already present suicidal ideation and new impulsiveness should be identified and appropriate changes made. The medicines are very effective for the vast majority and their risk profile is much lower than previously used drugs.
Everyone should discuss their concerns with their doctors to better understand their disease and the treatment they might get. Don't refuse treatment just because of rumours on the internet.
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09-13-2017, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted By East1600plus⏩
Must have been really scary. Nice that you are still with usi'm not saying they dont work but what happened to me i'd never get on one again. Serotonin syndrome is no joke and was not fun at all was rushed to the hospital. If you are prescribed one and start getting horrible tremors to basically parkinson stage and worse yeah get help. I was not informed of that and luckily my father is a doctor and was telling him what was going on (while barely being able to hold my phone) said "Get to the hospital now"

Kidding lol .. yea Serotonin syndrome is no joke .. commonly occurs when people first start treatment. People should ideally be made aware so they can have someone monitor them just in case.
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