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Ex-St. Louis police officer Jason Stockley found not guilty of murder
Former St. Louis police officer Jason Stockley was found not guilty Friday of murdering a man while on duty.
St. Louis Circuit Judge Timothy Wilson's highly anticipated verdict found a white former St. Louis police officer not guilty of first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the December 2011 shooting death of a black drug suspect after a high-speed pursuit and crash.
Activists, with support from some of the city's black clergy, had pledged disruptive protests ahead of St. Louis Circuit Judge Timothy Wilson's verdict.
Wilson addressed such statements in his order: "A judge shall not be swayed by partisan interests, public clamor or fear of criticism."
More than a month has passed since Stockley's bench trial ended, a case that has rekindled racial tensions not seen in St. Louis since the Ferguson uprising and police killing of VonDerrit Myers Jr. in the second half of 2014.
Stockley, 36, whose home is now Houston, was charged last year with first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the Dec. 20, 2011, shooting death of Anthony Lamar Smith, 24, at the end of a police chase at West Florissant and Acme avenues. The chase began when Stockley and his partner Brian Bianchi tried to arrest Smith for a suspected drug deal at a Church's Chicken at Thekla Avenue and Riverview Boulevard.
The decison was Wilson's alone because Stockley waived his right to a jury trial.
At the beginning of the chase, dash cam and surveillance footage from a restaurant shows Smith backing into Stockley and his partner's patrol car before speeding off. Wilson wrote, "Mr. Smith's Buick did not 'gently strike' the police vehicle."
"The police pursuit was in response to Smith's perilous conduct...This pursuit was a stressful event for the occupants," Wilson wrote.
Prosecutors said Stockley carried out the premeditated murder of Smith by shooting him five times at close range and then planting a .38-caliber revolver in Smith's Buick after police pulled Smith's body from the car. They asserted a "kill shot" was fired at close range and struck Smith in the shoulder. Defense attorneys said Stockley acted "reasonably" in self-defense in killing a drug suspect he believed was reaching for a hidden handgun.
Wilson quoted Dr. Gershom Norfleet, who performed the autopsy on Smith, in his ruling saying, in part, "The wound on the shoulder would not have caused Smith's death and to call it a 'kill shot' would be wrong.'"
A high-speed police chase preceded the shooting. During the pursuit, Stockley shouted commands to Bianchi, who drove their police SUV while chasing Smith through the Walnut Park neighborhood at speeds approaching 90 mph. Amid sirens, engine noise and squawking radio traffic, Stockley can be heard on an in-car camera video telling Bianchi "Gonna kill this (expletive), don't you know it."
Prosecutors argued the statement proved Stockley's "cool reflection" of his intent to kill Smith. During the trial, Stockley didn't deny saying it but also couldn't remember uttering it and therefore couldn't explain its meaning or context.
Wilson wrote, "The statement was not intelligible when the recording was played during the trial. However Stockley did not deny making the statement. He testified that he could not recall making the statement and he could not recall the context. The context is not clear from the recording; it cannot be determined what was said immediately before and immediately after the statement."
After the shooting, in-car camera footage shows Stockley sort through a duffel bag. Prosecutors alleged he was getting a gun to plant on Smith
with some 10 city and county police officers standing near Smith's crashed car, a bystander's cellphone video showed police pulling Smith's body from the car shortly before Stockley climbed inside. Stockley testified he found a loaded revolver shoved down between the center console and passenger seat. Lab tests of the gun revealed only Stockley's DNA. A plastic bag of heroin seized from the car had Smith's DNA but not Stockley's.
Wilson devoted nearly two pages of his 30-page ruling to discussion of the DNA found on the gun police said they found inside Smith's car, saying three scientists that testified at trial said their analysis did not conclude that Stockley's blood was found on the gun as the prosecution asserted.
Mary Ann Kwiatkowski, a supervisor at the biology section for the police department, "could not say there was blood on the gun, and that the absence of a person's DNA on a gun does not mean that person did not touch the gun. She reiterated that if DNA is not found on a gun, all she can say is that there is no DNA there, not that someone did or did not touch the gun," Wilson wrote.
The case lay dormant for years after it was reviewed by state and federal prosecutors without criminal charges until then-Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce charged Stockley, citing new, unspecified evidence. Prosecutors still have never said what the new evidence was; the defense claimed in closing arguments Aug. 9 that there's been no new evidence in the case since 2012.
In 2013, city paid Smith's survivors a $900,000 settlement stemming from a civil suit. Their lawyer has called for the reopening of the lawsuit, claiming the city and state attorneys withheld copies of reports showing only Stockley’s DNA on the revolver.
Al Watkins, lawyer for Smith’s fiancée and daughter, said outside the courthouse Friday morning:
“I find the ultimate disposition, the ruling, to be appalling, appallingly contrary to all of the evidence that was present, the evidence introduced into the record as an official entry into this case,” he said. “Quite frankly, the family clearly is sorely disappointed. The community will be sorely disappointed and all that we can hope for and pray for is that there is peace in the days to come rather than what we unfortunately fear may occur.”
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Ex-St. Louis police officer Jason Stockley found not guilty of murder
Former St. Louis police officer Jason Stockley was found not guilty Friday of murdering a man while on duty.
St. Louis Circuit Judge Timothy Wilson's highly anticipated verdict found a white former St. Louis police officer not guilty of first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the December 2011 shooting death of a black drug suspect after a high-speed pursuit and crash.
Activists, with support from some of the city's black clergy, had pledged disruptive protests ahead of St. Louis Circuit Judge Timothy Wilson's verdict.
Wilson addressed such statements in his order: "A judge shall not be swayed by partisan interests, public clamor or fear of criticism."
More than a month has passed since Stockley's bench trial ended, a case that has rekindled racial tensions not seen in St. Louis since the Ferguson uprising and police killing of VonDerrit Myers Jr. in the second half of 2014.
Stockley, 36, whose home is now Houston, was charged last year with first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the Dec. 20, 2011, shooting death of Anthony Lamar Smith, 24, at the end of a police chase at West Florissant and Acme avenues. The chase began when Stockley and his partner Brian Bianchi tried to arrest Smith for a suspected drug deal at a Church's Chicken at Thekla Avenue and Riverview Boulevard.
The decison was Wilson's alone because Stockley waived his right to a jury trial.
At the beginning of the chase, dash cam and surveillance footage from a restaurant shows Smith backing into Stockley and his partner's patrol car before speeding off. Wilson wrote, "Mr. Smith's Buick did not 'gently strike' the police vehicle."
"The police pursuit was in response to Smith's perilous conduct...This pursuit was a stressful event for the occupants," Wilson wrote.
Prosecutors said Stockley carried out the premeditated murder of Smith by shooting him five times at close range and then planting a .38-caliber revolver in Smith's Buick after police pulled Smith's body from the car. They asserted a "kill shot" was fired at close range and struck Smith in the shoulder. Defense attorneys said Stockley acted "reasonably" in self-defense in killing a drug suspect he believed was reaching for a hidden handgun.
Wilson quoted Dr. Gershom Norfleet, who performed the autopsy on Smith, in his ruling saying, in part, "The wound on the shoulder would not have caused Smith's death and to call it a 'kill shot' would be wrong.'"
A high-speed police chase preceded the shooting. During the pursuit, Stockley shouted commands to Bianchi, who drove their police SUV while chasing Smith through the Walnut Park neighborhood at speeds approaching 90 mph. Amid sirens, engine noise and squawking radio traffic, Stockley can be heard on an in-car camera video telling Bianchi "Gonna kill this (expletive), don't you know it."
Prosecutors argued the statement proved Stockley's "cool reflection" of his intent to kill Smith. During the trial, Stockley didn't deny saying it but also couldn't remember uttering it and therefore couldn't explain its meaning or context.
Wilson wrote, "The statement was not intelligible when the recording was played during the trial. However Stockley did not deny making the statement. He testified that he could not recall making the statement and he could not recall the context. The context is not clear from the recording; it cannot be determined what was said immediately before and immediately after the statement."
After the shooting, in-car camera footage shows Stockley sort through a duffel bag. Prosecutors alleged he was getting a gun to plant on Smith
with some 10 city and county police officers standing near Smith's crashed car, a bystander's cellphone video showed police pulling Smith's body from the car shortly before Stockley climbed inside. Stockley testified he found a loaded revolver shoved down between the center console and passenger seat. Lab tests of the gun revealed only Stockley's DNA. A plastic bag of heroin seized from the car had Smith's DNA but not Stockley's.
Wilson devoted nearly two pages of his 30-page ruling to discussion of the DNA found on the gun police said they found inside Smith's car, saying three scientists that testified at trial said their analysis did not conclude that Stockley's blood was found on the gun as the prosecution asserted.
Mary Ann Kwiatkowski, a supervisor at the biology section for the police department, "could not say there was blood on the gun, and that the absence of a person's DNA on a gun does not mean that person did not touch the gun. She reiterated that if DNA is not found on a gun, all she can say is that there is no DNA there, not that someone did or did not touch the gun," Wilson wrote.
The case lay dormant for years after it was reviewed by state and federal prosecutors without criminal charges until then-Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce charged Stockley, citing new, unspecified evidence. Prosecutors still have never said what the new evidence was; the defense claimed in closing arguments Aug. 9 that there's been no new evidence in the case since 2012.
In 2013, city paid Smith's survivors a $900,000 settlement stemming from a civil suit. Their lawyer has called for the reopening of the lawsuit, claiming the city and state attorneys withheld copies of reports showing only Stockley’s DNA on the revolver.
Al Watkins, lawyer for Smith’s fiancée and daughter, said outside the courthouse Friday morning:
“I find the ultimate disposition, the ruling, to be appalling, appallingly contrary to all of the evidence that was present, the evidence introduced into the record as an official entry into this case,” he said. “Quite frankly, the family clearly is sorely disappointed. The community will be sorely disappointed and all that we can hope for and pray for is that there is peace in the days to come rather than what we unfortunately fear may occur.”
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...78078c8cb.html
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I'm ready for Ferguson part 2
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Have they started or are you just hoping?
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I live 20 minutes East of STL in Illinois. I've been all over the world to many many countries and STL is by far the biggest POS city I've been to. Take my Glock with me every time I have to go there. RIP
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Originally Posted By Titansfan08⏩
Stay safe brah. I know a lot of people here in St Louis, especially the city, freaking out. Schools have closed and things are moving.I'm ready for Ferguson part 2
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
what area, bro...like Edwardsville, Collinsville?I live 20 minutes East of STL in Illinois. I've been all over the world to many many countries and STL is by far the biggest POS city I've been to. Take my Glock with me every time I have to go there. RIP
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I am sure the protests will be peaceful and mature and not an excusatory avenue to relieve their failed life's frustrations.
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole⏩
O'Fallon/Scott AFB area. You around here?what area, bro...like Edwardsville, Collinsville?
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
I lived in St Louis City most of my life but moved out to Chesterfield/Ballwin/Town & Country area about 2 years ago. Best decision ever.O'Fallon/Scott AFB area. You around here?
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole⏩
There are other offices shutting down here in our office building. Nothing will happen up here I work in Maryland Heights my wife works a mile away from where the shooting happened and they are sending out emails to be prepared.Stay safe brah. I know a lot of people here in St Louis, especially the city, freaking out. Schools have closed and things are moving.
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Gotta say I prefer watching the blacks rioting than watching all those tubby chodes from the alt right and antifa going at it.
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole⏩
Nice, that's a good area. I grew up in St Charles, MO before O'Fallon, IL. Cruise over to your area to visit friends sometimesI lived in St Louis City most of my life but moved out to Chesterfield/Ballwin/Town & Country area about 2 years ago. Best decision ever.
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Originally Posted By Titansfan08⏩
My gf workds downtown but is off today, totally unrelated to this but glad she is.There are other offices shutting down here in our office building. Nothing will happen up here I work in Maryland Heights my wife works a mile away from where the shooting happened and they are sending out emails to be prepared.
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As much as I hate the situation that is really a douche thing to sayGotta say I prefer watching the blacks rioting than watching all those tubby chodes from the alt right and antifa going at it.
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Don't be a hero, be safe, mangi live downtown..trying to stay safe
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
Good ol' St Chuck. Know many people over there, my gf spent some time over there for a whileNice, that's a good area. I grew up in St Charles, MO before O'Fallon, IL. Cruise over to your area to visit friends sometimes
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole⏩
Do you every hang out with Chingy at the Holiday Inn on Natural Bridge Road?I lived in St Louis City most of my life but moved out to Chesterfield/Ballwin/Town & Country area about 2 years ago. Best decision ever.
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Originally Posted By cadetduke⏩
oh, sht didn't even think about the Ballloon glow.Inb4 Balloon glow and U2 concert cancelled.
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Don't sell drugs/run from police and this never would have happened.
The fact that there was no DNA of Smith on the revolver is weird. Makes you think the officer planted it.
Don't know how you could have a gun and not have any of your DNA on it.
The fact that there was no DNA of Smith on the revolver is weird. Makes you think the officer planted it.
Don't know how you could have a gun and not have any of your DNA on it.
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Originally Posted By menseks⏩
While the cop likely was a piece of chit, I still don't understand rioting over a criminal being killed.Stop running from cops! Also, scary to think some cops carry around guns that they use to plant on people.
If this was some dumb hick on meth and trying to run over cops, and the cops killed him, you just say, "Oh well, the cops saved the state a ton of money on sending this guy to prison."
The cop lives in Texas now. So clearly it makes sense to destroy St Louis.
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Originally Posted By Titansfan08⏩
You forgot to add "Electric Boogaloo"I'm ready for Ferguson part 2
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these people that are protesting don't want any black people getting killed, no matter what the reason
i'm also surprised how they couldn't find the cop guilty
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but he's *black*While the cop likely was a piece of chit, I still don't understand rioting over a criminal being killed.
these people that are protesting don't want any black people getting killed, no matter what the reason
i'm also surprised how they couldn't find the cop guilty
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
Judge is in St. Louis though so he is the one keeping "the man" down in "their" eyes. But didn't this have a jury? The Judge doesn't determine the verdict, only the sentencing, right?While the cop likely was a piece of chit, I still don't understand rioting over a criminal being killed.
If this was some dumb hick on meth and trying to run over cops, and the cops killed him, you just say, "Oh well, the cops saved the state a ton of money on sending this guy to prison."
The cop lives in Texas now. So clearly it makes sense to destroy St Louis.
If this was some dumb hick on meth and trying to run over cops, and the cops killed him, you just say, "Oh well, the cops saved the state a ton of money on sending this guy to prison."
The cop lives in Texas now. So clearly it makes sense to destroy St Louis.
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It's possible finger prints were wiped off the gun even before the chase happenedThe fact that there was no DNA of Smith on the revolver is weird. Makes you think the officer planted it.
Don't know how you could have a gun and not have any of your DNA on it.
Don't know how you could have a gun and not have any of your DNA on it.
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole⏩
Bench trial.Judge is in St. Louis though so he is the one keeping "the man" down in "their" eyes. But didn't this have a jury? The Judge doesn't determine the verdict, only the sentencing, right?
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