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10-18-2017, 12:55 PM
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Off the top of their head, anyone know which rail key to use on a trl1 hl for a VP9?
Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories
Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories
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10-18-2017, 01:00 PM
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10-18-2017, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By HotCheetos⏩
Should just be the one that fits a standard 1913 picatinny rail.Off the top of their head, anyone know which rail key to use on a trl1 hl for a VP9?
Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories
Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories

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10-18-2017, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
They are expensive which is pretty annoying. I'm left handed though, so I buy them anyways. I do have both the Raptor and the BCM and I prefer the Raptor by quite a large margin. Feels much smoother. And it's nice being able to use my right hand and the motions are the same.I thought about that...I suck so hard at off side everything already if I get to another match or class where it's required having full ambi controls might help a little lol
10-18-2017, 01:06 PM
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10-18-2017, 01:09 PM
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10-18-2017, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By ctprelude⏩
No, ammo is considerably cheaper now than it has been in the last 8 years at least.
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
makes sense thanks guys.Current ammo prices are, all things considered, the best they have been inyears.Maybe the best they have ever been, adjusting for inflation and what not. Seriously, with the Federal rebate and prices of common ammo like 9mm FMJ and .223/5.56 55gr FMJ...
When I started shooting in 2005, you could get 9mm WWB at Walmart for $10.34 per 100 (might have been slightly less actually), and that was the best deal going...so we aren't that low but then with 12 years of the actual inflation we have experienced, the current Federal deal where you can get 1k for $165 after rebate might be the best I have ever seen.
I also bought CCI Blazer (Aluminum) for $5.69/50 in 2007 when I first moved to Georgia (Academy Sports)
Chances are that in the next several years we will all have wet dreams about getting ammo at today's prices
When I started shooting in 2005, you could get 9mm WWB at Walmart for $10.34 per 100 (might have been slightly less actually), and that was the best deal going...so we aren't that low but then with 12 years of the actual inflation we have experienced, the current Federal deal where you can get 1k for $165 after rebate might be the best I have ever seen.
I also bought CCI Blazer (Aluminum) for $5.69/50 in 2007 when I first moved to Georgia (Academy Sports)
Chances are that in the next several years we will all have wet dreams about getting ammo at today's prices
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10-18-2017, 01:22 PM
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10-18-2017, 01:30 PM
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I used to buy 500 round plastic ammo cases of steel cased Wolf around the 2004 timeframe for $55 from the local Cabelas. A 500 round brick of 22lr around the same time or earlier was around $16 or less I think.
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10-18-2017, 01:53 PM
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10-18-2017, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By HotCheetos⏩
1913 rail, and that thing is bright as fuk so pepper your angusOff the top of their head, anyone know which rail key to use on a trl1 hl for a VP9?
Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories
Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories
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10-18-2017, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
Even with wrench flats, I'm not sure how you would pop the barrels off and torque them back on without a barrel vice. Barrel vices secure/anchor the barrel allowing you to unscrew/screw the action with an action wrench.Just saw PVA sells an action wrench. I'm going to have MHSA mill wrench flats into the barrel, like the AI barrels have. Should make it easy with a folding chassis.
10-18-2017, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Tormoz⏩
Ok guys someone is trying to trade me their sage ebr mod1 socom 16. Idk wtf it is, cant really figure out when looking online. Its just a shortened M1A? Why do people like it? And is it any good?
Originally Posted By ctprelude⏩
This is wrong.Yes, it's just a scout type rifle that most use a red dot or some other quick acquisition reticle on for shorter distance shooting. I've never shot the socom 16, but have a standard M1A that I inherited from my dad. It's cool, but I'd personally rather have an AR10 variant if I was starting from scratch and could only have one.
This is a Springfield M1A Scout Squad in a Mod 0 Sage EBR chassis

It has an 18" barrel, a muzzle brake, and a skeleton stock adjustable for LOP and comb height.
A Mod 1 EBR chassis will replace the skeleton stock with an AR buffer tube and (usually a Magpul CTR stock with a cheek riser. The SOCOM version in this case is going to refer to the configuration of the barrel, gas plug, and muzzle device.
You can see the difference in the muzzle devices here:
Scout

SOCOM

This is a 16" SOCOM mounted in a Mod 1 chasses

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10-18-2017, 02:07 PM
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Here's a SOCOM configured with a scope:

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10-18-2017, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Aaron47pb⏩
Fine. I'll get a barrel vise. You happy?Even with wrench flats, I'm not sure how you would pop the barrels off and torque them back on without a barrel vice. Barrel vices secure/anchor the barrel allowing you to unscrew/screw the action with an action wrench.
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10-18-2017, 02:59 PM
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Illinois Bros. It's time to fill out witness slips:
OPPOSE:
HB4107
HB4112
HB4117
Proponent:
HJR70
http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/HearingDe...=1508339959087
Witness Slip Instructions:
I submitted all of mine this afternoon.
OPPOSE:
HB4107
HB4112
HB4117
Proponent:
HJR70
http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/HearingDe...=1508339959087
Witness Slip Instructions:
Originally Posted By C0untZer0
http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...howtopic=32865Here is how I fill out a witness slip.
In Section I. "IDENTIFICATION"
I fill out the self-explanatory stuff, first and last name in the name field, street address, city and zip code.
Under "Firm Business Or Agency" I type in "On behalf of self"
Just a note here - please do not misrepresent yourself. If you are not designated and authorized to represent a group in an official capacity, please do not say that you do. Just because you are a member of the National Rifle Association doesn't mean that you represent the NRA. Just because you are a gun owner doesn't mean that you represent all gun owners.
For "Title" I type two characters - "NA" I don't use a slash in the title field because the slash is not an accepted character for this field and the form won't accept a slash. You won't be able to submit the Witness Slip with a slash in this field.
I also type out my e-maill address in the Email field so I can get a confirmation that my witness slip was submitted and so I can double check that it was filled out correctly.
I also put my phone number in the phone field.
In Section II. "REPRESENTATION" I type in "Self"
Again, unless you are a lobbyist or representing a group in an official capacity - just type in "Self".
In Section III. "POSITION" I choose Opponent (most times when we are filling out witness slips we are opposing oppressive anti-Second Amendment legislation. If we were supporting a carry bill we would choose Proponent). Make sure you actually click inside the round radio button and that the radio button gets highlighted. Simply clicking on the text portion of the form will not work, you need to click INSIDE the radio button. Its important to make sure that the correct choice is selected and highlighted here, and that this section is filled out correctly.
Be sure to use the scroll bar to move up and down on the screen - using the arrow keys can change your vote of "Opponent" or "Proponent".
Under Section IV. "Testimony (Check all that apply) I only click in the check box "Record of Appearance Only"
Then I check the box "I Agree to the ILGA Terms of Agreement."
In the box that says "Type in the text above" I type in the letters and numbers that are visible.
I click the button that says "Create (Slip) and the Witness Slip is created and submitted
In Section I. "IDENTIFICATION"
I fill out the self-explanatory stuff, first and last name in the name field, street address, city and zip code.
Under "Firm Business Or Agency" I type in "On behalf of self"
Just a note here - please do not misrepresent yourself. If you are not designated and authorized to represent a group in an official capacity, please do not say that you do. Just because you are a member of the National Rifle Association doesn't mean that you represent the NRA. Just because you are a gun owner doesn't mean that you represent all gun owners.
For "Title" I type two characters - "NA" I don't use a slash in the title field because the slash is not an accepted character for this field and the form won't accept a slash. You won't be able to submit the Witness Slip with a slash in this field.
I also type out my e-maill address in the Email field so I can get a confirmation that my witness slip was submitted and so I can double check that it was filled out correctly.
I also put my phone number in the phone field.
In Section II. "REPRESENTATION" I type in "Self"
Again, unless you are a lobbyist or representing a group in an official capacity - just type in "Self".
In Section III. "POSITION" I choose Opponent (most times when we are filling out witness slips we are opposing oppressive anti-Second Amendment legislation. If we were supporting a carry bill we would choose Proponent). Make sure you actually click inside the round radio button and that the radio button gets highlighted. Simply clicking on the text portion of the form will not work, you need to click INSIDE the radio button. Its important to make sure that the correct choice is selected and highlighted here, and that this section is filled out correctly.
Be sure to use the scroll bar to move up and down on the screen - using the arrow keys can change your vote of "Opponent" or "Proponent".
Under Section IV. "Testimony (Check all that apply) I only click in the check box "Record of Appearance Only"
Then I check the box "I Agree to the ILGA Terms of Agreement."
In the box that says "Type in the text above" I type in the letters and numbers that are visible.
I click the button that says "Create (Slip) and the Witness Slip is created and submitted
I submitted all of mine this afternoon.
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10-18-2017, 03:21 PM
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The data show background checks didn't significantly increase since Colorado passed stricter laws.The study found a modest increase in background checks in private-party sales, but almost no change in gun show sales. The study did not reach a definitive conclusion as to why background checks didn't jump.
Researchers suggested little enforcement and calls from pro-gun organizations to ignore the law may have contributed to the findings.
http://kdvr.com/2017/10/17/study-col...arent-working/
DENVER -- Colorado passed strict gun background check laws about three years ago, but new research shows they aren't working.
Researchers at Johns Hopkins and the University of California Davis teamed up to see if people are complying with Colorado's laws. Their conclusion is there is virtually no effect.
The data show background checks didn't significantly increase since Colorado passed stricter laws.The study found a modest increase in background checks in private-party sales, but almost no change in gun show sales. The study did not reach a definitive conclusion as to why background checks didn't jump.
Researchers suggested little enforcement and calls from pro-gun organizations to ignore the law may have contributed to the findings.
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10-18-2017, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
Hutch, why not create slips for all 5? The last one is about national reciprocity for national concealed carry. NVM, thought you only mentioned 3, but it was 4 of the 5. lol you didn't mention the domestic terrorism one.Illinois Bros. It's time to fill out witness slips:
OPPOSE:
HB4107
HB4112
HB4117
Proponent:
HJR70
http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/HearingDe...=1508339959087
Witness Slip Instructions:
http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...howtopic=32865
I submitted all of mine this afternoon.
OPPOSE:
HB4107
HB4112
HB4117
Proponent:
HJR70
http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/HearingDe...=1508339959087
Witness Slip Instructions:
http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...howtopic=32865
I submitted all of mine this afternoon.
I submitted them
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10-18-2017, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
Glad you submitted them.Hutch, why not create slips for all 5? The last one is about national reciprocity for national concealed carry. NVM, thought you only mentioned 3, but it was 4 of the 5. lol you didn't mention the domestic terrorism one.
I submitted them
I submitted them
I don't have any info on the "domestic terrorism" bill. I copied a gun rights org who also didn't have any info on hr570.
Current numbers
HB4107:
Proponents 169, Opponents 328
HB4112:
P 82, O 267
HB4117:
P 32, O 267
HJR70:
P 251, O 23
GOOD JOB ILLINOISANS
KEEP PUSHING
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10-18-2017, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By ctprelude⏩
maybe bulk ammo for 9mm and 223 but premium ammo i shoot for big game has gone up considerably. i gotta start reloading and stop buying retailNo, ammo is considerably cheaper now than it has been in the last 8 years at least.
10-18-2017, 04:25 PM
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10-18-2017, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
M24 profile barrel is too thick to fit in my belly button. That's a good thought though.figured a guy like you would use his belly button and bare hands
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10-18-2017, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
No, I want you to get and like an AI. But might as well have the right tools for the job:Fine. I'll get a barrel vise. You happy?
http://shop.otmtactical.com/VIPER-BA...ISE_p_360.html
I have this vise and just clamp it down.
10-18-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Aaron47pb⏩
I still may do an AI. I'll likely wait until after the beginning of the year. If I'm going to a match when I go home for xmas, I better start collecting some dope on my current stuff.No, I want you to get and like an AI. But might as well have the right tools for the job:
http://shop.otmtactical.com/VIPER-BA...ISE_p_360.html
I have this vise and just clamp it down.
http://shop.otmtactical.com/VIPER-BA...ISE_p_360.html
I have this vise and just clamp it down.
It can get pretty annoying trying to sell chit on the hide. Idiots offering you crap for trade, when you say "no trades." If not that, everyone wants your stuff for 50% of your asking price.
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10-18-2017, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
I need to start posting on there or something so I can get my scope when I'm ready. There's an XTR II on there right now...I still may do an AI. I'll likely wait until after the beginning of the year. If I'm going to a match when I go home for xmas, I better start collecting some dope on my current stuff.
It can get pretty annoying trying to sell chit on the hide. Idiots offering you crap for trade, when you say "no trades." If not that, everyone wants your stuff for 50% of your asking price.
It can get pretty annoying trying to sell chit on the hide. Idiots offering you crap for trade, when you say "no trades." If not that, everyone wants your stuff for 50% of your asking price.
10-18-2017, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
Yeah it gets old. Luckily I've had pretty good luck selling on SH.I still may do an AI. I'll likely wait until after the beginning of the year. If I'm going to a match when I go home for xmas, I better start collecting some dope on my current stuff.
It can get pretty annoying trying to sell chit on the hide. Idiots offering you crap for trade, when you say "no trades." If not that, everyone wants your stuff for 50% of your asking price.
It can get pretty annoying trying to sell chit on the hide. Idiots offering you crap for trade, when you say "no trades." If not that, everyone wants your stuff for 50% of your asking price.
10-18-2017, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
fuk yeah!Glad you submitted them.
I don't have any info on the "domestic terrorism" bill. I copied a gun rights org who also didn't have any info on hr570.
Current numbers
HB4107:
Proponents 169, Opponents 328
HB4112:
P 82, O 267
HB4117:
P 32, O 267
HJR70:
P 251, O 23
GOOD JOB ILLINOISANS
KEEP PUSHING
I don't have any info on the "domestic terrorism" bill. I copied a gun rights org who also didn't have any info on hr570.
Current numbers
HB4107:
Proponents 169, Opponents 328
HB4112:
P 82, O 267
HB4117:
P 32, O 267
HJR70:
P 251, O 23
GOOD JOB ILLINOISANS
KEEP PUSHING
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10-18-2017, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
Best place to buy long range stuff. A lot of stuff is new in box.I need to start posting on there or something so I can get my scope when I'm ready. There's an XTR II on there right now...
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10-18-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
That one in particular is the 5-25 for $875. Fuking steal.Best place to buy long range stuff. A lot of stuff is new in box.
10-18-2017, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
Pretty sure that's better than the mil/leo discount.That one in particular is the 5-25 for $875. Fuking steal.
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What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" are you having trouble with?
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