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post 1528385131 11-05-2017, 02:13 PM
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This solution worked for all countries that implemented it (Aus/UK).

Complete ban on all firearms (except for law/govt. bodies). This is how it will be done:

- Air tight legislation with 0 loop holes will be introduced.

- There will be a 1 year period that will allow a firearm buy back scheme. Anyone with a gun (legal or illegal) can take the firearm to any center and be compensated in CASH no questions asked.

- How will this be funded? Any firearm in a decent enough condition will be sold abroad. US is the largest arms dealer in the world, this won't be too hard to implement.

- after the 1 year period has passed, anyone still found with a firearm will be subject to jail time AND asset forfeiture no exceptions.

- the asset forfeiture will ensure this works as gun owners will submit if they believe their home/business is in danger if they keep their guns lmao. If it means their family will be put out onto the streets, trust me they'll be obedient

- a new arm of the government will be set up to deal with tracking down gun owners, similar to the FBI or Dea


That's it folks, that's your answer. Sometimes the bitter pill is the best medicine

If you disagree, then pls tell me your solution

Inb4 mental health screening and background checks lmao
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post 1528385301 11-05-2017, 02:14 PM
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Fuk off
post 1528385651 11-05-2017, 02:17 PM
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Unfortunately taking guns from people = civil war. Guns is part of their religion.

There is no easy solution at this point. Making your own firearms in a decent metal shop isn't excessively hard either.



Good luck with your problems America. No hate, just compassion srs
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post 1528385851 11-05-2017, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By TurkBrah
Fuk off
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post 1528386031 11-05-2017, 02:20 PM
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theres something like 400 laws on the books that arent enforced.

murder rate in united states is 4.8 per 100k.
in europe its 3.00.
small difference considering europe already has most of the crap you spew.
post 1528386151 11-05-2017, 02:21 PM
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Yes, your solution "worked", as long as you ignore the increased violent crime rates....

BRB - Let's make every lawing abiding citizen defenseless against criminals.What could possibly go wrong?
If you disagree, then pls tell me your solution
Humans have been killing each other since the dawn of time. Why do you expect a "solution" for that? All you want is to ensure free reign by violent criminals.
post 1528386201 11-05-2017, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By StrawHat94
Complete ban on all firearms (except for law/govt. bodies). This is how it will be done:
Okay Stalin.
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post 1528386361 11-05-2017, 02:23 PM
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Ok op - **** you, you can't have mine. 100 million other americans follow the same lead. Now what, you inbred eurocuck retard?
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post 1528386661 11-05-2017, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By getbig_ttt
Unfortunately taking guns from people = civil war. Guns is part of their religion.

There is no easy solution at this point. Making your own firearms in a decent metal shop isn't excessively hard either.



Good luck with your problems America. No hate, just compassion srs
its not about guns specifically but the right to defend our lives without depending on the government - you realize you can have guns in canada, right?
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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post 1528386931 11-05-2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Yes, your solution "worked", as long as you ignore the increased violent crime rates....

BRB - Let's make every lawing abiding citizen defenseless against criminals.What could possibly go wrong?



Humans have been killing each other since the dawn of time. Why do you expect a "solution" for that? All you want is to ensure free reign by violent criminals.
so you're solution is do nothing?
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post 1528386991 11-05-2017, 02:28 PM
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Somehow, OP describes this as a "solution that worked in Australia"...

From 1993 to 2012, robbery rates:
- In Australia, spiked for five years after the gun ban, took another three years to return to pre-ban rates, and saw an overall 20% decrease during that period
- In the US, with ever-expanding concealed carry, rates steadily dropped with an overall56% decreaseduring that period

http://www.aic.gov.au/dataTools/fact...olentRate.html
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._1993-2012.xls
post 1528387121 11-05-2017, 02:28 PM
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100% agree OP, this is the only solution. Rednecks like their guns too much for it to go smoothly though.
Originally Posted By seanb1979
you realize you can have guns in canada, right?
You have no fukn clue about Canadian gun laws you dumb hick. It's laughable you're can even comparing them to USA.
post 1528387201 11-05-2017, 02:29 PM
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What about the gangs in Chicago, New York, LA, Detroit, New Jersey, Mexican cartels, Memphis

Im guessing you plan on going door to door to collect these guns?
post 1528387241 11-05-2017, 02:29 PM
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OP might be on to something.

Lets ban all drugs next, that will make them go away.

Lets ban all bombs too, no more explosions!

Lets ban all trucks because then people can't drive into a crowd!

And ban murder!
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post 1528387291 11-05-2017, 02:29 PM
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the correct answer is thoughts and prayers OP. good vibes, changing your ******** pic or posting a supportive status etc. Only way the various atrocities committed daily can be prevented
post 1528387531 11-05-2017, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By ToooMuchSauce
What about the gangs in Chicago, New York, LA, Detroit, New Jersey, Mexican cartels, Memphis

Im guessing you plan on going door to door to collect these guns?
common criminals are incredibly short sighted and opportunistic, if they see a way to make a quick buck....they'll take it.

This is about removing as many firearms out of circulation as possible. Make it difficult for these criminals to get these guns (low supply, high price in the firearm black market)
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post 1528387621 11-05-2017, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By StrawHat94
common criminals are incredibly short sighted and opportunistic, if they see a way to make a quick buck....they'll take it.

This is about removing as many firearms out of circulation as possible. Make it difficult for these criminals to get these guns (low supply, high price in the firearm black market)
What about the increase in crime when guns are banned? Look up a country where the guns are banned and see how other crimes rise. Are you ok with that? Because every country that has banned guns has an increase in crime.

There is no stopping the gun circulation, Mexican cartels will smuggle them in just like they do drugs
post 1528387691 11-05-2017, 02:34 PM
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OP's solution is to create a new high priced black market of violence similar to illegal drugs.
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post 1528387871 11-05-2017, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By ToooMuchSauce
What about the increase in crime when guns are banned. Look up a country where the guns are banned and see how other crimes rise. Are you ok with that?
and those increases dropped in the 2-3 years after.

Increase police presence in the most troubled areas and the spike won't be as bad (it's only temporary mate)
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post 1528387881 11-05-2017, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887
OP's solution is to create a new high priced black market of violence similar to illegal drugs.
Mexican cartels are rubbing they hands like birdman

Originally Posted By StrawHat94
and those increases dropped in the 2-3 years after.

Increase police presence in the most troubled areas and the spike won't be as bad (it's only temporary mate)
Post proof. Nutsy did, where's yours?
post 1528387891 11-05-2017, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By StrawHat94
common criminals are incredibly short sighted and opportunistic, if they see a way to make a quick buck....they'll take it.

This is about removing as many firearms out of circulation as possible. Make it difficult for these criminals to get these guns (low supply, high price in the firearm black market)
Even if the magic wand could erase every gun, violent criminals would still be violent criminals. They'd simply switch to knives, fists, pipes, and any other weapon. While their intended victims are conveniently disarmed from having the most effective self defense option.

The problem is people, not the weapon they choose to use (as evidenced in my previous post).
post 1528387971 11-05-2017, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By ToooMuchSauce
Mexican cartels are rubbing they hands like birdman
Donald trump's wall will solve that. This is well thought out mate
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What proof do you have for it "working" in Aus and UK? There is no direct drop of after gun bans.



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I think the opposite. I think gun laws should be relaxed and that every US citizen should have the right and ability to arm themselves and defend themselves if attacked.
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Meanwhile in OP’s country during that Woolwich attack a Mohammad was sawing off the head of one of your countrymen with not much more than a kitchen knife in the middle of a busy street and your unarmed police were maintaining their distance watching it happen, blowing their whistles to scare him or something lol
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Originally Posted By StrawHat94
so you're solution is do nothing?
you want to reprogram human nature? you think an over-intrusive gestapo-style government will fix all of societies ills?
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Even if the magic wand could erase every gun, violent criminals would still be violent criminals. They'd simply switch to knives, fists, pipes, and any other weapon. While their intended victims are conveniently disarmed from having the most effective self defense option.

The problem is people, not the weapon they choose to use (as evidenced in my previous post).
I don't know about you man, but I'd rather have a violent criminal come at me with their fists or a pipe then a gun. The amount of damage a person can do with a knife vs a gun is incomparable. Having everyone armed in a crowded area during a shooting sounds like a recipe for disaster as well. I figure the collateral will be as much if not more than the initial shooting.
post 1528388481 11-05-2017, 02:40 PM
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lol euros eat their egg from a cup and they want to tell us about guns
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Originally Posted By jahaa
What proof do you have for it "working" in Aus and UK? There is no direct drop of after gun bans.



so in less than 10yrs after the gun ban, homicide rates ARE lower than previous gun ban.

LOL THANKS FOR PROVING MY THEORY
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Why would America take advice from a third worlder who doesn't even have the balls to live in his native country?
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