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post 1537607361 12-15-2017, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
This. Leave the government out of your relationship and stay in control of your finances
As this catches on you can expect this to become meaningless. The laws involving cohabitation and restitution upon separation will eventually get pretty abusive.

Do you really think the marriage rate will plummet and the people that profit from marriage will just say "oh well, it was good while it lasted". Fuk no, they will find ways to attack whatever replaces legal marriage.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
As this catches on you can expect this to become meaningless. The laws involving cohabitation and restitution upon separation will eventually get pretty abusive.

Do you really think the marriage rate will plummet and the people that profit from marriage will just say "oh well, it was good while it lasted". Fuk no, they will find ways to attack whatever replaces legal marriage.
Came in to post something similar

Also having children out of wedlock puts you at the mercy of the courts' custody and Child Support laws which we all know typically favour mothers

Between that ^, cohabitation and no-fault divorce, it really just looks like relationships between men and women are attacked from ALL angles
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Alimony is literally modern day slavery. Lol @ cucks who still get married. If you're that stupid then I can't say you don't deserve what's coming to you.
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Originally Posted By EnforcerOTF⏩
a buddy of mine was married for 22 years, perfect life, him and his wife both tons of money, 4 beautiful daughters. one summer she ends up banging some gross fat dude and leaves her husband for him.

the reason? He didnt hold hands with her when they went out & the new guy does


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i have a similar story, my best friend all through childhood had like the picture perfect family, family had very successful local business made tons of money, gorgeous house on 100 acres, vacation home, kids all went to the nicest colleges, it was like a snapshot of the dream

at some point within the past 5 years they got a nasty divorce, apparently the wife cheated with some guy because she felt her husband didnt appreciate her anymore/she didnt feel "wanted"

brb like 20 years of marriage down the drain, the business fell apart, house and land got sold off, now he lives in like a small 2 bedroom house by himself doing HVAC work to get by, she's got a beautiful condo downtown and is living it up

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post 1537609771 12-15-2017, 11:16 AM
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I haven't read through all the responses so it has probably already been said but sticking it out for 20 years most of the time has to do with kids. I would say that I would definitely stay in an unhappy marriage for my daughter. I couldn't imagine only seeing her every other weekend. I know that sounds like being a cuck but my daughter means more than anything in this life. In this case with the woman splitting it off maybe she wanted the kids to have their father in their life until they were grown.
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I swear to god all the people who I know got divorced, it always seems like 9/10 times it was the wife who initiated the divorce first, while the guy tries to work it out, esp when a child is involved.

It has to be a midlife crisis thing. Men buy nice cars and chit when they are going through it, while woman will cheat on their husbands, get divorced, get a boob job and find a new boyfriend "who really cares about her".

Being married and getting divorced after 20+ years is scary and it always seems like the woman will bonce back on her feet faster because she will get alimony and find a new provider while the guy is stuck in a 1 person apartment, broke, mentally destroyed and wishing his life was over.

It reminds me of all those times I have asked a co worker why he is broke if he's getting paid great money and the first words out of their mouth is usually alimony or child support, followed by a deep sigh.
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marriage is retarded for a man in this day and age. It is a lose only situation.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces⏩
Never gonna work. All women expect marriage at some point. Good luck trying to hold on to a quality chick long term if you flat out tell her you are against marriage. You are 24 so you don't realize it yet.
so have a wedding, in an exchange get the prenup signed.


Im telling you right now, Im not marrying a chick unless she makes more money than I do.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
20 year relationships don't die casually

And alimony is gender neutral and subject to long term financial dependence in NJ
not if you are a man... but we are talking about a woman here. so anything goes
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post 1537613671 12-15-2017, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By thorpowers⏩
Anybody that would voluntarily sign off the control of their assets to a woman in a completely one sided contract that is marriage deserves everything coming to them. Women want your resources. Marriage gives them just that with the backing of the US government behind them.
this

it's biological.. men are providers women are caregivers. in my opinion the women shouldnt have control of any finance that she herself hasnt earned.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
thats wishful thinking, but then you would disrupt the legal services industry (divorce lawyers) and God forbid you do that, thats amulti-billion dollar industry.And it goes way beyond taxes. who decides who keeps the house in a divorce? what about the kids? dont get me wrong. the whole process needs serious legal overhaul, especially in the capacity of screwing over men. it is just not so simple as removing the state from the equation.
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The, now ex-husband, is required to work even more to be able to pay alimony/child support or it's jail time for him
- Once again government is collecting more money due to his increased work load


Why would the gov want to overhaul this? and these were just examples I came up with on the spot. If you're not the wife/gov in this scenario, there's just no winning
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Originally Posted By Layne205⏩
Not really. We just need the legal aspects of marriage to go away (hospital visitation, filing taxes together, honestly there's not much else). Make it so you can sign a form to do those things with anyone (side effect: gay marriage dispute disappears). Then leave marriage as it always was: a religious/personal institution that has nothing to do with the government.
I think we need to reapply the social stigmas against divorce. Divorce these days is seen as a good thing bringing new opportunities to live, laugh, love. It's not seen as a failure to keep a sacred bond intact like it should be. Get people to think that sticking it out in a marriage has benefits over divorcing at the first opportunity because this new guy makes a little more money and enjoys tennis which her husband isn't too terribly fond of. 100% of the women I've known and heard about, who go the route of hedonism and chasing the "better" option being the sole reason she wanted a divorce, wind up miserable later on.

It's like the marshmallow experiment. Teach people to think that sticking it out and trying to get the situation to improve is better than snatching the marshmallow (getting a separation) and calling it a day. Maybe it's a weird analogy but it works in my head.
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Is a solid prenuptial agreement a good enough defense against all of this?
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Originally Posted By TheBodfather94⏩
Came in to post something similar

Also having children out of wedlock puts you at the mercy of the courts' custody and Child Support laws which we all know typically favour mothers

Between that ^, cohabitation and no-fault divorce, it really just looks like relationships between men and women are attacked from ALL angles
The best way to control a people is to convince them that the government is their only ally. From every angle pressure is being put on people to split into smaller and smaller groups and for those groups to hate each other.
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Originally Posted By mike.hunt⏩
Fuk this thread depressing boyos
32 and never married here, feeling the pressure tho
lol you missed the boat, bro

brb 32 year old single male. clearly something wrong with him.
brb single female around the same age. MUST be something wrong with her.
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Originally Posted By AquilaConfido⏩
Is a solid prenuptial agreement a good enough defense against all of this?
i read somewhere where some cuck judge ruled that out because the woman said she was 'forced' to sign it.. smh
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actually easy to win divorce if ur vegan transgender hipster Native-American-Indo-Chinese hybrid alien agnostic-atheist German engineer who vapes fairtrade organic decaffeinated compressed and hydrated extra-protein soy breast milk on the regular and does Hindi Kama Sutra naked crossfit yoga 5 times per week. I'm also a nonbinary trigender genderqueer male feminist and identify myself as a pastafarian pansexual genderfluid Apache helicopter dog of mega multi alpha beta gamma delta omega combo god of hyper death who's in a polygamous polyamorous relationship to the chihuahua which helped me cross the border of Mexico because it hates Donald Trump. My dog also walks me to the park and doggy styles me, if you find that weird you're an ignorant arrogant homophobic gender-assuming globaphobic bloodthirsty gun-loving cisgender pansexual bestial sexist racist incestuous white-previlege misogynistic biased objectified raped privileged Nazi slave owner terrorist lesbian
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Prenups still have to be reasonable. They can be voided pretty easily.

Tons of grey area in family law though.

It sounds like the longer your spouse stays out of the work force, the more alimony you'll be expected to pay because they'll be less employable.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
At some point, we need to come up with some kind of social contract other than the concept of marriage being a lifetime thing. Something two people can sign every few years. I think more people would be apt to take a chance on a relationship if they could do it for say a 3-7 year term.
That sounds fine until you bring kids into the equation. Which was kind of the point of marriage vs. just staying single, right?
Originally Posted By AquilaConfido⏩
Is a solid prenuptial agreement a good enough defense against all of this?
Might be better than nothing, but my understanding is the court will consider a lot of things, not just the pre-nup.

If you were only married a short time and didn't have any children you might be sweet.

But if you were together over 10 years and have kids together maybe not.

Alimony isn't what it used to be. In most states it isn't permanent, only for a few years. And some states don't have it at all.

Most places actually don't even call it alimony anymore, but spousal support and the idea is to provide support for a transition period so that the lower income spouse can get stabilized.
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people change over time but that isn't the problem.

The problem is the US Divorce Courts. We have the worse divorce court system in the world.

I saw a document about the US Divorce Courts 3 months ago and I'm still in shocked on how unregulated and fukked up it all is.

Other countries have very civil divorce courts and can cost less than $1k in fees. Everybody is happy and go on their way. Kids don't get dragged through the mud.

The current system in place enables women to get greedy and use this against men.

It is insane.
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It's a weird statistic that women are the ones to initiate divorce more than men.

Here we have a 45 year old woman and a similarly aged man. His sexual market value is likely way higher than hers. Men are biologically driven to mate with younger women (functioning sperm for life) as they age, but women lose fertility.

I guess the fact she gets alimony forced by the state, makes all the difference. In a free market without this, I imagine women would have far less incentive to divorce at an older age.
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Originally Posted By GravityLee⏩
Its really simple.

As a man if you couldnt turn around and fuk a woman on your gf/wifes level within a week to a month, you never deserved her in the first place.

Dont try to use money to make up the gap if youre not on your wifes level. You will get burned. Barbie doesnt want to fuk George Castanza with a bank account. She will always go back to Ken dolls. You guys will try to cite the 1/10 relationship this didnt apply to while ignoring the 90% of them that fell apart with the woman cheating and initiating divorce.
Go hang around affluent neighborhoods and then come back and tell me what you saw.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
That sounds fine until you bring kids into the equation. Which was kind of the point of marriage vs. just staying single, right?
People have kids outside of marriage all the time these days. I think many couples would end a marriage under favorable terms, versus a nasty divorce and the stress that puts on a family.
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Originally Posted By AquilaConfido⏩
Is a solid prenuptial agreement a good enough defense against all of this?
it is better get them signed in front of a witness like a bank manager/police officer.
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Originally Posted By AquilaConfido⏩
Is a solid prenuptial agreement a good enough defense against all of this?
Can help but depending on situation you might find yourself in legal battles over the stipulations of the prenup which will ultimately eat up resources as well.
Lawyers are the winners in nasty divorces
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Originally Posted By shoelaces⏩
Just lol if you think a woman will marry someone who makes less money than they do.
Not married yet but gf of 4 years makes a decent amount more than me, she was much more driven and focused than me in hs and college (actually still is) and it shows in our salaries. Its really not that uncommon or that big of a deal this day in age, we just see it as combined income. I do agree that you have to be in similar tax brackets, but plenty of women just want a guy who is half driven with a decent job.
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