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post 1538985671 12-29-2017, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Of course it's a trick question. You're deflecting away from the main issue of the thread, which is that white people feel discriminated against, because they in fact are. You don't want to admit white people are discriminated against, so you're bringing up irrelevancies. No, I'm not minimizing what any other groups have gone through with the previous sentence. I'm saying that discrimination based on race is wrong, and that white people are in fact experiencing it. Whether or not other groups ALSO experienced it doesn't change the fact that as of this moment, white people are experiencing it.

I've noticed this same train of thought you seem to be stuck on from feminists. You seem to think that someone saying "White people are experiencing racism/discrimination" somehow takes away from what other groups have dealt with. It doesn't. Feminists seem to think that saying "Men have issues" takes away from women also having issues. It doesn't. Both can be true simultaneously. Why you seem to want to turn it into an oppression Olympics, and claim "Well we had it worse so white people should stop whining" is pretty questionable (I know you didn't use those exact words, but that seems to be the general vibe).

Tell me: Does white people being discriminated against threaten your victimhood?

**Edit**

Tell you what, I'll go one better and answer your question with another question (while simultaneously answering yours):

Do you think the fact that these groups are not "on equal footing" with white people is due to discrimination, or could there be some other reason?
Nope, white people being discriminated against does not threaten my victimhood (whatever that means).

I'll answer your question with a question.

If these groups are not on equal footing, should they be on equal footing?
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Originally Posted By foreverSNAFU⏩
But if we're a "multicultural" society, why would minorities need minority leaders? Wouldn't someone that's not a minority but more qualified be a better choice to assimilate these minority environments into the whole community?
Interested to hear a response from BPP on this (or any other AA proponent, ftm). Convenient it was skipped over?

It seems to me that self segregation is a way of retaining pride for some minority communities. At whatever cost, a title matters more than being able to fulfill the duties of said title properly.

Assimilation therefore doesn't seem to be a priority. Which is a problem for the stability of a united country trying to progress righteously.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
You haven't shown in any way how "weightless" my use of discrimination is, because you used a poor analogy to make your case.

As for your question, it's not just some random SJW videos on the internet (although those do in fact have some measure of affecting hearts and minds of the young). College professors are pushing this **** in universities. Even school teachers are pushing leftist narratives on kids. It's all Cultural Marxist dogma being pushed, and the oppressor class in said dogma is the White Male. Furthermore, the MSM also pushes the same nonsense, and defends these Marxist professors when they make completely outlandish statements, like the recent professor who finally resigned after he claimed "All I want for Christmas is white genocide". But yeah, white people aren't being discriminated against, we just have professors who want us all dead teaching this **** to students.
Even if I agreed that the current discrimination against white people is fairly petty and trivial ****, the indoctrination being foisted upon the next generation is already rearing its ugly head with the SJW crowd.. Antifa is comprised of anti-White, Communist asshats who run around larping as revolutionaries, committing violence. The next generation of this crap isn't going to be trivial.
Idk, I guess some things like this occur, and I see how people can come to these conclusions, but I think it's a bit far fetched, but I see your view though.
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Originally Posted By BigPoppaPumpin⏩
If these groups are not on equal footing, should they be on equal footing?
Not unless they can get there by themselves.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Lol are black people still crying about slavery?

1. It’s not exclusive to you, slavery has existed throughout history & still continues to this day.

2. It happened nearly 200 years ago, how long is it going to be a crutch?
I fukin dare you won't ever say this to a black man in front of his face. You know why? Because you're b1tchmade. You're balls haven't dropped yet. Talk all this chit acting like your the Malcom X of White people behind a computer screen. Fukin LOL.


"Are black people still crying about slavery"?

Fukin lol. What type of white person says this? I promise you have 0 black friends. Fuking geek go back to jerking off to 5tormFront threads.
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Originally Posted By BigPoppaPumpin⏩
If these groups are not on equal footing, should they be on equal footing?
No. They should be given equal opportunity, which they already have. Equality before the law is all that matters. Granted, black people get fukced over in the sentencing race gap (like men get fukced over compared to women by 60% longer sentences), but aside from that, again, equality before the law is the only equality that matters.

I'm curious why everyone (mostly on the left) is so hell bent on some fantasy version of "equality" anyway. Why do you think everyone should be equal? People are inherently NOT equal to each other. This website is a perfect example of guys who aren't equal to their peers. People who are genetically gifted, and also have a strong work ethic are "mysteriously" in better shape than people who don't. Oh no.. the inequality.. Some people are smarter than others. Some people are taller, others are manlets. More inequality. There is literally no way to redress these inequities without kneecapping the more gifted people and bringing them down to the lowest common denominator. I think this is why the left push for Socialism so much, because that's pretty much what Socialism is & does: Brings everyone down to the same level, since it's impossible to elevate people. You can't make a lazy person work harder. You can't make a stupid person more intelligent. You can't make a short person taller.

Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome is what everyone should be given. They already have it.
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Fukin lol. What type of white person says this? I promise you have 0 black friends. Fuking geek go back to jerking off to 5tormFront threads.
I've verbatim had these kinds of conversations with black coworkers, some of which I consider my friends.
Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts⏩
Fuking geek go back to jerking off to 5tormFront threads.
Pretty typical response from the left. No argument, so we turn things into personal attacks and call people racist. Par for the liberal course.
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts⏩
I fukin dare you won't ever say this to a black man in front of his face. You know why? Because you're b1tchmade. You're balls haven't dropped yet. Talk all this chit acting like your the Malcom X of White people behind a computer screen. Fukin LOL.


"Are black people still crying about slavery"?

Fukin lol. What type of white person says this? I promise you have 0 black friends. Fuking geek go back to jerking off to 5tormFront threads.
No need for the meltdown little buddy.

FYI, you’re not the saviour of black people, you’re just another cuck with access to the Internet. Calm your little ass down.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Lol this clown actually thinks he’s oppressed.
Of course not only white people are LOL
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
Of course not only white people are LOL
White people in America aren’t oppressed, neither are you.

Gonna have to find another excuse for your chitty life.
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Originally Posted By p100⏩
If race doesn't matter then why are we talking about it? Just stop talking about it and racism will go away. Treat everyone the same.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirm...es#cite_ref-92
What is the point of citing Clarence Thomas? You're literally using him as a token in lieu of making an actual argument against AA because he's black, esteemed, and happens to agree with you. For the record, Thurgood Marshall, the only other black Supreme Court Justice, was a strong supporter of affirmative action. Interesting that you failed to mention that. It's crazy how black people aren't completely homogenous and have a variety of opinions on issues, huh?
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
White people in America aren’t oppressed, neither are you.

Gonna have to find another excuse for your chitty life.
Where did I say I was oppressed?
Are you gonna blame black people for the fact you can’t read now too bubblehead?
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Originally Posted By DicedPineapples⏩
have a variety of opinions on issues, huh?
politically this is clearly not true
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
Where did I say I was oppressed?
Are you gonna blame black people for the fact you can’t read now too bubblehead?
You’re the one who brought up oppression champ. Having a hard time following along?

I’d draw you a picture, but my 2 year old is busy with the crayons.
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The media promotes an anti white agenda. You're an idiot if you don't think a white male and a black female with the same qualifications have the same chance of getting a job. For example, I met NASA astronaut candidates, and found out what they did before, you had an Asian male who was an ex Seal then got a doctorates at Harvard, a ton of male former pilots with extensive training and knowledge of aviation, then a black female who got a geology degree. No disrespect to her because she was chill, but I was shocked thats all she needed to do to be an astronaut.
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Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
The media promotes an anti white agenda. You're an idiot if you don't think a white male and a black female with the same qualifications have the same chance of getting a job. For example, I met NASA astronaut candidates, and found out what they did before, you had an Asian male who was an ex Seal then got a doctorates at Harvard, a ton of male former pilots with extensive training and knowledge of aviation, then a black female who got a geology degree. No disrespect to her because she was chill, but I was shocked thats all she needed to do to be an astronaut.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
You’re the one who brought up oppression champ. Having a hard time following along?

I’d draw you a picture, but my 2 year old is busy with the crayons.
And?

Can your 2 year old point out where I said I was oppressed since you still can't?
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Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
The media promotes an anti white agenda. You're an idiot if you don't think a white male and a black female with the same qualifications have the same chance of getting a job. For example, I met NASA astronaut candidates, and found out what they did before, you had an Asian male who was an ex Seal then got a doctorates at Harvard, a ton of male former pilots with extensive training and knowledge of aviation, then a black female who got a geology degree. No disrespect to her because she was chill, but I was shocked thats all she needed to do to be an astronaut.
The media is made up of who? White people

And you still get cases where resumes are thrown out because they have an "ethnic" name but are accepted when they whitened it
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
And?

Can your 2 year old point out where I said I was oppressed since you still can't?
After you point out where I said white people are.
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Originally Posted By VSVP99⏩
Interested to hear a response from BPP on this (or any other AA proponent, ftm). Convenient it was skipped over?
It's funny how BPP stopped posting after this.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
After you point out where I said white people are.
You've got bigger problems than discrimination, you can't even read
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
You've got bigger problems than discrimination, you can't even read
Sure thing little buddy.
Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
If the privilege wasn't enough, now they want to be victims too?

Who is discriminating against them? Since minorities aren't in positions to, it would have to be OTHER WHITE PEOPLE, you can't make this stuff up, they're literally victimizing themselves just to be part of the oppressed crowd lol
Translation: Wahhh I’m an oppressed minority & you’re better at life than me because of white privilege.

I see you.
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Originally Posted By BlazerXX⏩
politically this is clearly not true
Just because black people vote heavily democrat doesnotmean they are homogenous ideologically. It just means they've assessed their options and decided, on the whole, voting blue is better than voting red. But that doesn't mean they don't fundamentally disagree with each other about particular issues or aspects of the Democratic Party platform. Hell, I'm registered as a Democrat but get into heated arguments with other liberals all the time. Party affiliation doesn't mean you agree about everything with every other member of your party. Have you taken a look at the GOP recently?

Your comment is indicative of a severe lack of interaction with black people and other minorities.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Sure thing little buddy.



Translation: Wahhh I’m an oppressed minority & you’re better at life than me because of white privilege.

I see you.
You have no business translating anything you're clearly illiterate

next
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Originally Posted By BlazerXX⏩
politically this is clearly not true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
You have no business translating anything you're clearly illiterate

next
Just take your L and stop embarrassing yourself.
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
The media is made up of who? White people

And you still get cases where resumes are thrown out because they have an "ethnic" name but are accepted when they whitened it
I meant social media too. But who are the main consumer group that the media is trying to appeal to? The young liberal type kids? or the middle aged people who have grown past that phase.
Yeah jackass I live in seattle and I've had my resume thrown out because I have a white male last name and the only race I can claim thats a minority is asian.
And fuker you can't base everything off a few cases.
Everything in america is made up of white people, why because the majority of america is white.
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Than live in Africa in the 1800s, yes, I'll take those chances.
Guess you don't value free will. Most other people do.
Originally Posted By NVious⏩
You wouldn't? I mean if you don't like America, feel free to leave, but African Americans enjoy the highest standard of living of any Africans in the world.
So the little girl who gets raped by her adoptive dad every weekend should thank her lucky stars every night that she lives in a real home instead of a foster home? She can go back to the foster home if she wants! Let's not blame the dad at all.
Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Not for welfare in general, but they can be considered a form of reparations.

Blacks are a net negative in America in terms of taxes collected, see:

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/...and-hispanics/

Do you understand proportionality? I'm not saying that to be rude, but are you trying to compare similar numbers of people using welfare TOTAL without taking into consideration that there are 5x as many whites in America?
Well I pay taxes, and proportionally more of my taxes go to help white people on welfare than black people on welfare.
Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Human trafficking is different than slavery, although if you want to lump it together, that's fine, but precision with language should be strived for

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4eb60f3a68ce

Slavery is a far larger issue in the middle east, Africa and Asia than Europe.
So we're going to argue about slavery vs human trafficking? Really?

Originally Posted By NVious⏩
My whole point is that slavery is painted as a black on white issue, there are other groups that were involved and did it just as large, this is a lie that is sold in an effort to stir hatred towards whites while DIRECTLY ignoring real facts.
I agree that almost everyone participated in the slave trade. Don't agree with the hatred part though


Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Now you're conflating private and public, but it is good that you admit that the law of land trumps all.

Do you agree with total freedom of association (I can deny service or hire whoever I want)?
Now it gets a bit dangerous. If you can deny service or hire whoever you want whenever you want, so can Harvard right? So of course there's gotta be some instances where you can't deny service or refuse to hire someone. And then we have to get into the nuances of law for that.



Originally Posted By NVious⏩
1.Blacks also commit more crime, should there be any correlation between crime and how often your car is searched or should the higher correlation be between population distribution?

2.More crime goes on in black neighborhoods, should we not expect these numbers or are you now going to not like when I give you YOUR OWN logic of "if you don't like it, VOTE! Run for office!!!"?

3.They can't afford to pay bail, ok and? What do you want to say with this? Should someone else pay it?

4.Ok and again? Do they HAVE to take it? As far as I'm aware, this is a negotiation process.

5.What happened to the law being just or you running for office to change things? Or are we not doing that here either?

6.Court behavior and ability to afford representation come to mind as not being considered.

7.Maybe don't commit more crime than everyone else?

8.Not sure about this, so I won't comment as I don't know how probation works
Gonna need some hard numbers. "More" can mean 2% more or 200% more.
Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Now let's talk about whites living under blacks:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_r...h_and_outcomes

The programme also left another 200,000 farmworkers displaced and homeless, with just under 5% receiving compensation in the form of land expropriated from their ousted employers

/\ Theft of white owners property by the government, nothing to that scale has occurred in America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_...ic_Empowerment

Discrimination SOLELY based on skin color (South Africa is poorer in just about every regard today than pre Apartheid too, so it's not as if it has "worked")
Let's take a trip down memory lane:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci...ward_expansion


Originally Posted By NVious⏩
I'm genuinely curious as to how you answer this:

Would you rather be an African American or a White Zimbabwean/South African? Why?
I rather be treated fairly. An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Actually you don't, you cannot deny service to people for any reason, this is why there are now "racist dress codes":

https://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17q.../ku-medium.jpg

This sign wants to say one thing and one thing only, but that's against the law so you have the sign.
Well, the right to associate with whoever doesn't give you the right to refuse service or refuse to hire whoever for whatever reason. Or else Harvard could too. There are laws against discriminating in business open to the public. As said above, there are legal nuances that we probably don't want to get into.

Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Why should any other group serve and protect anyone else? By your own logic, this is the fault of the individual and group, THEY should take action/vote and get involved etc.
I'm not saying whites serve and protect. I'm saying if you're a cop, or in another profession where your job is to serve and protect the public, it's difficult to be objective and fair in serving and protecting the public if you truly believe that some people are inherently worse than others. Not impossible, but difficult.
Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Ultimately though, you're trying to imply that whites think this or that this is a common belief which is laughable because even you don't really believe this, otherwise you would be pushing for separation between the races or maybe you just think whites are racist and they need to work on it more (obviously the past work hasn't been enough, but with a bit more work, I'm sure things will magically come together right?).

So which is it?
I never said all whites are this or all whites are that. There are extremist rightists, extremist leftists, and people all over the spectrum. The people are the ends are shouting their agendas into a megaphone and lobbing insults at the other side, while the rest of the people, for the most part, are living their lives, trying to be decent human beings.
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Originally Posted By foreverSNAFU⏩
But if we're a "multicultural" society, why would minorities need minority leaders? Wouldn't someone that's not a minority but more qualified be a better choice to assimilate these minority environments into the whole community?
If you're a kid living in in a black neighborhood, but your mayor is white, your teachers are white, your principal is white, your doctor is white, your pharmacist is white, the policemen are white, your landlord is white,... what would that tell you as a kid about what you can become when you grow up?

When you see people in leadership positions that look like you, it gives you hope, pride, a sense that you can become whatever you want if you're qualified.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Just take your L and stop embarrassing yourself.
Take your own advice
Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
I meant social media too. But who are the main consumer group that the media is trying to appeal to? The young liberal type kids? or the middle aged people who have grown past that phase.
Yeah jackass I live in seattle and I've had my resume thrown out because I have a white male last name and the only race I can claim thats a minority is asian.
And fuker you can't base everything off a few cases.
Everything in america is made up of white people, why because the majority of america is white.
What about social media? The internet is filled with racism from white people against minorities, just lol at pretending it wasn't a thing until white people started getting a taste of it thanks to Twitter or whatever.

I don't believe you got your resume thrown out because of a "white male last name" that doesn't even make sense, and how do you say this before telling me I can't base everything off a few cases?

It's not just a few, there are many confirmed instances where white names got callbacks over "ethnic" ones, look it up, they've actually done experiments to go with experiences

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ning-callbacks






nobody actually believes a "white" name will do worse than an ethnic one because it's not true
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Originally Posted By BigPoppaPumpin⏩
If you're a kid living in in a black neighborhood, but your mayor is white, your teachers are white, your principal is white, your doctor is white, your pharmacist is white, the policemen are white, your landlord is white,... what would that tell you as a kid about what you can become when you grow up?

When you see people in leadership positions that look like you, it gives you hope, pride, a sense that you can become whatever you want if you're qualified.
Agreed, as an adult it seems ridiculous, but as an child it makes sense. I never had any sort of judgments about middle easterns until the media plastered their faces all over and claimed they were all terrorists. When you're a kid and the only middle eastern people you ever see are terrorists, isn't it kind of natural to be afraid of them?
And for african americans, the only ones I saw on tv were rappers and athletes, and then all the african american kids in my school started trying to rap, focus on basketball or football, dressing like gangsters, skipping school, smoking weed, and just doing everything wrong.
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